* D&D wake mod *

[Desga]

The Laboratories for research and development GRUPSOM announce the release of the new mod - Mod.DDWake: ship's wake and submarine's wake at high-resolution !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD4tZ6bqNtY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xmasgrupsom.com%2Fpublic%2Fi ndex.php%3F&feature=player_embedded

Screenshoot

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7349/clipboard01eyv.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01eyv.jpg)

http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/Meg2/SciaSomforum.jpg



Resolution 1024 x 1024 link

Download DDWake - SCIA NAVI (http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/Meg2/Foam.zip) resolution 1024 x 1024



Resolution 256 x 256 link

* D&D Wake mod * Resolution 256 x 256 link (http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/MEG2/Foam256.zip)



Resolution 512 x 512 link

* D&D Wake mod * Resolution 512 x 512 link (http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/MEG2/Foam512.zip)


The mod is compatible with JSGME!


A big thanks to Jaketoox who created the TGA for SH4 !:yeah:

and for his cooperation to the captain CapZap1970 which provided a great help in this transformation.


Unpack the files, you will create a New Folder in the hard disk, inside there will be a folder named
data , select data and do the copy / paste in the folder where you installed silenthunterIII.
When you are prompted to overwrite confirm with OK .

Comgrupsom:up:

[evan82]

Looks good, but what about FPS?:hmmm:

[makman94]

Looks good, but what about FPS?:hmmm:

i can't see a better way to see your fps than just....test it !

different rigs...different fps. just ...run it


@Desga,thank you :up:

[Dowly]

Looks good, but what about FPS?:hmmm:

Shouldnt be much of a hit as it's just a new texture.

[Desga]

Me with my system detect 20fps.
However, I think that this value depends on the pc that everyone has:up:

[Sailor Steve]

Looks great, guys!:rock:

[makman94]

Looks great, guys!:rock:

same here ! good work Desga! bravo

[mengle]

really great mod Desga :up:
http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/m/menglee/137716/uffbirqhhj.jpg

[andym]

Will this be JGSME enablled at some time?

[Desga]

Will this be JGSME enablled at some time

Try it I don't know I don't test it with JSGME but may be.:up:

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

Gr8 looking mod.
Did enebady taste it with jsgm?
And is it working with gwx 3.0 and olc enveroment mod?
! more qvestion what sea bad mod is theat. It looks gr8. Maybe a sea bad mod as the stand allone too?

[Jimbuna]

Looks promising but I'll make it JSGME compatible first before I install it http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

Jimbuna cann u post it wenn u make it JSGME compatible. And maybe check is it working with gwx 3.0
Thx

[Jimbuna]

Jimbuna cann u post it wenn u make it JSGME compatible. And maybe check is it working with gwx 3.0
Thx

Here you are:

http://files.filefront.com/Foam7z/;13517591;/fileinfo.html

Just unpack it to your MODS folder in JSGME and enable it....I haven't tested it yet but seeing as how it's only a texture file (see post by Dowly also) it should be fine.

Any problems, simply disable it http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

Thx jimbuna. I bay u a beer.:up:

[UberTorpedo]

Very nice mod :salute:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/UberTorpedo/Wake1.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/UberTorpedo/Wake2.jpg

[richardphat]

:o Fast! How long did it take you,Jim, to convert to GWX?

[robbythesub]

Superb work by all involved, many thanks. :up:

[Desga]

Thanks guys,:up: but much of the credit for this mod goes to captain DUVAL who made the tga.files.
Duval is the mind and the leader of GRUPSOM!
D&D is for DESGA & DUVAL:yeah:

[coronas]

Downloaded. Great work, congratulations to the modders. Thanks! :salute:

[Carotio]

Thanks guys,:up: but much of the credit for this mod goes to captain DUVAL who made the tga.files.

Duval is the mind and the leader of GRUPSOM!

D&D is for DESGA & DUVAL:yeah:



Just wondering, if jaketoox has changed his username to captain DUVAL? :hmmm:

Try compare the texture files in the misc folder with the very same from SH4 ROW mod provider, jaketoox, and his mod: ROW_New_Seafoam_from_Jaketoox
Released in this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=130150
And still available here:
http://files.filefront.com/ROW+NEW+SeaFoam+from+Jakeox7z/;8976112;/fileinfo.html
They are exactly the same, only converted from dds to tga.
I see no where in the readme nor in this thread that the textures were made by jaketoox originally. In fact, quite the opposite.

Though the idea of using seafoam textures for the wakes is an original idea, the use of the textures is not. That tends to be plagiarism.

So much for recommended modding etiquette...

[Desga]

M.E.G. arises from research and assembly of the best mod created by the best modders like you and that you can find in subsim, I have always written all their names as your name!
But this mod-wake DD is a creation of Duval! I am sure, because 'he started to work the file foam.tga original SH4. He has worked with photoshop them for many days to create the mod.
Duval was one of fifteen appointed from ubi like the tester to test the SH4 before it being released on the market. I am sure that he absolutely did not use the file jaketoox So before you accuse someone of plagiarism try to think about it 2 times.
the mod is and will remain * D & D wake mod * otherwise I will remove the publication!

[Carotio]

First of all, it's not my mod, so why do I care? Well, as a modder I like the idea of credits, and I think credits are due to be issued in this case. Especially, when it's presented as original work with no rework whatsoever.

Okay, so this captain DUVAL reworked the original SH4 foam files, you say?
How do these original SH4 files look like? I enclose them here, and all files resized to max 800 pixels and converted to jpg due to forum presentation:

Original SH4 SeaFoam files:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Carotio/20070214org_SeaFoam01.jpg

Original SH4 Foam files:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Carotio/20070214org_foam01.jpg
Both files dated 2007-02-14

How do your mod's tga's look like? Like this:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Carotio/20090309DDwake_Foam01.jpg
Dated 2009-03-09

Then compare with jaketoox' files, dated 2007-10-14:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Carotio/20071014jaketoox_SeaFoam01.jpg

Overwhelming similarity, wouldn't you say? Come on. It's obviously a rework of his work, nothing more. And I doubt he would have mind you doing so. I cannot speak on his behalf. I just recognized his work in your mod with ease, because I rework graphic files myself often, and his work is quite good. And I have thought this over enough time, and I still call it plagiarism, when it's a rework without credits given.

Should you redraw your mod? Well, I will leave that up to you. Personally, I don't think so, but I would suggest, you rewrite the readme and update the first post in this thread and thank jaketoox for his original graphic files.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Just wondering, if jaketoox has changed his username to captain DUVAL? :hmmm:

Try compare the texture files in the misc folder with the very same from SH4 ROW mod provider, jaketoox, and his mod: ROW_New_Seafoam_from_Jaketoox
Released in this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=130150
And still available here:
http://files.filefront.com/ROW+NEW+SeaFoam+from+Jakeox7z/;8976112;/fileinfo.html
They are exactly the same, only converted from dds to tga.
I see no where in the readme nor in this thread that the textures were made by jaketoox originally. In fact, quite the opposite.

Though the idea of using seafoam textures for the wakes is an original idea, the use of the textures is not. That tends to be plagiarism.

So much for recommended modding etiquette...

Given his past attitude here and on various other forums, (where he has since been banned) Carotio has absolutely no respect for any modding etiquette... and wishes only to re-ignite old matters that have since been laid to rest.

Don't take his bait. Carotio only serves his own interests. Stand your ground.

M.E.G. arises from research and assembly of the best mod created by the best modders like you and that you can find in subsim, I have always written all their names as your name!
But this mod-wake DD is a creation of Duval! I am sure, because 'he started to work the file foam.tga original SH4. He has worked with photoshop them for many days to create the mod.
Duval was one of fifteen appointed from ubi like the tester to test the SH4 before it being released on the market. I am sure that he absolutely did not use the file jaketoox So before you accuse someone of plagiarism try to think about it 2 times.

the mod is and will remain * D & D wake mod * otherwise I will remove the publication!


Thank you for your wake mod. Nice work to all!!! :up::up::up:

Just a thought, but high-resolution textures will affect framerates. Just a suggestion, you may consider making a second version as "standard resolution" (reducing texture sizes by half). In doing so, more people can enjoy the mod.

Two versions... easy as pie! :shucks:

[Task Force]

Nice mod.:up: Wakes look good.:yep:

[nikbear]

I must admit I'm noticing a frame rate hit,and since I'm already getting CTD's when a convoy is to large,I'm a bit worried about how this will affect my patrol if,and when I bump into one:oops:Perhaps a 'Lite' version as Kpt.Lehmann sugest's which is also JSGME enabled would be a good idea:hmmm:Brilliant little mod,looks great,congrats to you and Cpt Duval:yeah:

[Desga]

OK people for me it's easy reduce the texture sizes by half
but if I will make so... the resolution of tga.files will be :

Size 512 x 512 pixels

do you want these dimensions ?;)

If you will tell me ok I will put in the first page the link to download them|:up:

Ciao Desga

[mengle]

really great mod Desga :up:
http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/m/menglee/137716/uffbirqhhj.jpg

Should it be possible to rework the bowspray in high quality? don't fit no more with your beautiful foam :hmmm:

[Desga]

Yes it' a good idea to modify the bowspray but in these days I am a little busy with my work I think that I can't make it now because it' s a long work ....if I will make it then I will join the D&D wake with new bow spray .
Jimbuna if you want help me you can do no problem I like collaboration
We have the same target a good mod for a good SH3:up:

[TheDarkWraith]

Should it be possible to rework the bowspray in high quality? don't fit no more with your beautiful foam :hmmm:

just replacing the texture used for bowspray won't be enough as a FastParticleGenerator is used to make the spray. The whole FastParticleGenerator needs to be redone to make it look more realistic. This can easily be done but then it has to be done for every ship and sub as they each have their own FPGs for each spray (even the Turms have their own FPGs for sprays).

[Desga]

Thank RB for your clarification...from what I understand this becomes a job much bigger and longer than expected!!:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

:o Fast! How long did it take you,Jim, to convert to GWX?

5 seconds to create and name a folder, 20 seconds to zip it up, then 2 minutes to upload :up:

[Einsman]

Very nice !! Downloading...

[YukonJack_AK]

Just a thought, but high-resolution textures will affect framerates. Just a suggestion, you may consider making a second version as "standard resolution" (reducing texture sizes by half). In doing so, more people can enjoy the mod.

Just an FYI for anyone who has had framerate hits due to this MOD... (GREAT MOD by the way Desga - Looks beautiful :up:)... using Photoshop I shrunk the image sizes down to 256x256 (CTRL+ALT+I) and I got all my frames back and the wakes still look great! :DL I was taking about a 20-30fps hit... No More! Thanks again Desga! :rock:

[Desga]

Very well YukonJack_AK I'm happy for you and that you like this mod!!:up:

[JCWolf]

Looks awesome and I am giving it a try,
Thought You should work the Bowspray in Hight Resol. also cause the diference with your fine wake mod...

Thought I think it will increase a lot on FPS when you get a convoy ...for sure...:salute:

[nikbear]

5 seconds to create and name a folder, 20 seconds to zip it up, then 2 minutes to upload :up:

Would it be possible Jim for you to do a Lite version for those of us without fast puters,Yukonjack seems to have found a way to do it,with Desga's permission of course,would you consider doing that,would be great to have a lite version thats JSGME enabled and ready to go for us thicko's:oops::yeah:

[Otto Heinzmeir]

I like the look of this texture. They look great in screen shots.:woot:

I don't like how they look in real time though in calm seas. :hmmm: There is too much action in them, almost too many squiggles or something around the sub. It looks too turbulent until the wind gets to 8mps or so,then they fit better.

I don't suppose there is a way to implement these textures so they would be used by the ships only and not the subs. Subs are so streamlined and I don't think they would make so much turbalance around the sub. Maybe behind it but these textures make a wide turbalance which fits the bigger ships better.

[Myxale]

Looks really good, damn hot actually. Can't wait to give it a try!

Kudos!:rock:

[iambecomelife]

That is a huge improvement. The new mods coming out never cease to amaze me. :up:

[Desga]

Would it be possible Jim for you to do a Lite version for those of us without fast puters,Yukonjack seems to have found a way to do it,with Desga's permission of course,would you consider doing that,would be great to have a lite version thats JSGME enabled and ready to go for us thicko's

no problem for me.... Jim you can make the lite version so all can try my mod!!!:up:

[IFRT-WHUFC]

Those wakes are truly magnificent!!! Just a shame the seafoam isn't done on a similar basis!

regards
Rick

[Jimbuna]

no problem for me.... Jim you can make the lite version so all can try my mod!!!:up:

It won't be me I'm afraid.....busy working on other projects right now :hmmm:

[CapZap1970]

no problem for me.... Jim you can make the lite version so all can try my mod!!!:up:
Desga:
I've done that already. :up:
If you want, gimme an e-mail adress and I will sed it to you for 1024x1024, 512x512 and 256x256 res.
CapZap

[Desga]

CapZap1970 I have sent you my email address. You will see that by including your files will be a beautiful graphic effect.:rock: If everything running smoothly after the test, if you want I will I put in the "dd-wake mod" your files and your name in the credits. OK ?:yep:


Ciao Desga:yeah:

Ps:
are you able to to rework the bowspray in high quality?

[gordonmull]

tried this last night and wow! Looks great.

thanks :yeah:

[Desga]

HI I might say what are the programs that I could use to increase the resolution of these 4 files. tga?
For all of them now have a resolution of 128 x 128 ... but I'd like to achieve 512 x 512 while maintaining a good quality
You can see these tga to this mod
http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches05/Bowspray_V_1.2.zip

Thank agin Desga:salute:

[nikbear]

Having a problem with this mod,running 5 careers and while the recently used one's work with this mod,going back to patrol with older careers,they CTD:nope:Just at the end of the loading bar,SH3Cmdr is set to auto roll back,but as if its stopped working and not rolling back.Every time I add a mod,the careers that are tried straight away work fine,but if I try and older career that hasn't been used for a week or so,then the dreaded CTD appears,If I remove said mod,then everything is fine:06:all careers are in port when mods are added and no conflict is flaged up in JSGME,this is driving me nuts!!!!:wah:remove the mod and 3 careers work,add the mod and the other 2 work but the other 3 CTD,Can anybody help please:damn:

[Desga]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7290/workshr.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=workshr.jpg)

Hi people, I'm working to reduce to desired resolutions when we will finish the tests and all will be ok I shall return here to add the link for download!

Ciao Desga:salute:

[jaketoox]

First....pictures i've seen looks great, meaning this mod is good (wondering why i didn't do this for SH4...maybe i had no time to think.....)

However, i found out that there are no credits for the name "jaketoox" in the readme-file...see post #23 in this thread...

But......as i'm not active modder due to RL requirements (RL sucks ALWAYS), and not wanting to start any kind of war here, you have my "green light" even if you don't rewrite your readme....but that would be nice act if you do so....

Happy modding

jake

[Duval]

Hi All Commander, you excuse me for my English.
After numerous requests from the other captains who had slowdowns with resolution 1024 x 1024, we captains Duval and Desga can finally release 2 new versions for the * D&D Wake mod *
The first resolution is 512 x 512
the second resolution is 256 x 256
The files are already tested!
A big thanks for his cooperation to the captain CapZap1970 which provided a great help in this transformation.
A warm thanks to all the commanders who were able to appreciate the work done for the sole purpose of being able to entertain everyone and improving this great simulator!



Resolution 512 x 512 link

Download Wake 512x512 (http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/MEG2/Foam512.zip)



Resolution 256 x 256 link

Download Wake 256x256 (http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/download/MEG2/Foam256.zip)


Captain Duval
http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/Banner/FirmaGrupsom.jpg

[Oneshot/Onekill]

All I can say is OOORAHHH. :salute:

Big props to you guys, SH3 creeping closer and closer to SH4!

P.S. Are the updated resolutions JSGME ready?

[Kpt. Lehmann]

First....pictures i've seen looks great, meaning this mod is good (wondering why i didn't do this for SH4...maybe i had no time to think.....)

However, i found out that there are no credits for the name "jaketoox" in the readme-file...see post #23 in this thread...

But......as i'm not active modder due to RL requirements (RL sucks ALWAYS), and not wanting to start any kind of war here, you have my "green light" even if you don't rewrite your readme....but that would be nice act if you do so....

Happy modding

jake

Jaketoox, whether you realize it or not, I owe you an apology.

As you are one of the original ROW modders alongside the late LeoVampire and company... you are most certainly the expert on the matter... and have the means to speak with authority on this subject.

Your statement I respect as being true evidence.

Desga and Duval, you need to do the right thing. I retract my statement that asks you to stand your ground. It is CLEAR that you have used the work of others, so you should naturally take a moment to adjust your readme text files and credit your re-release of these textures properly.

[tomfon]

That's a wonderful mod guys. Thank you. :up:

[mengle]

looking forward for the new bowspray :yeah:

[Carotio]

Now, that you can give jaketoox an apology, I think you owe me one as well, since I presented the evidence in public (#post 23) and for jaketoox, and then you just commented in a rather unfriendly way.

Jaketoox, whether you realize it or not, I owe you an apology.

As you are one of the original ROW modders alongside the late LeoVampire and company... you are most certainly the expert on the matter... and have the means to speak with authority on this subject.

Your statement I respect as being true evidence.

Desga and Duval, you need to do the right thing. I retract my statement that asks you to stand your ground. It is CLEAR that you have used the work of others, so you should naturally take a moment to adjust your readme text files and credit your re-release of these textures properly.

Given his past attitude here and on various other forums, (where he has since been banned) Carotio has absolutely no respect for any modding etiquette... and wishes only to re-ignite old matters that have since been laid to rest.

Don't take his bait. Carotio only serves his own interests. Stand your ground.

Thank you for your wake mod. Nice work to all!!! :up::up::up:

Just a thought, but high-resolution textures will affect framerates. Just a suggestion, you may consider making a second version as "standard resolution" (reducing texture sizes by half). In doing so, more people can enjoy the mod.

Two versions... easy as pie! :shucks:

[Hitman]

I strongly beg -for the benefit of this forum- that everybody follows the example and takes things easy and sportsman-like as Jaketoox did.

Carotio, I'm not going to comment or judge your post, but I must direct you to discuss this per PM with KL. No matter what past issues are between you both, I know he is a honourable man and will attend any founded and reasonably presented claim. Throwing a glove at his face in public will in turn probably not make things easier.

Now please everybody stay on topic; I will have some PMs with some people here and clarify matters.

Thanks

[Jimbuna]

Well done Duval....I'm sorry but I just didn't have the spare time/capacity.http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

@Oneshot/Onekil....yes, just enable via JSGME. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Thanks jim.:cool:

[Hitman]

All right, there had been a misunderstanding between Desga and Duval, now it is explained and nothing happened with bad intentions. In the first post of this thread credit and thanks are given to Jaketoox, so that matter is already solved.

Thanks all and now enjoy the mod :salute:

[Fubar2Niner]

@desga/duval

Any news on the progress with the bowspray?

Best regards

Fubar2Niner

[mengle]

@desga/duval

Any news on the progress with the bowspray?

Best regards

Fubar2Niner

i was thinking that to :hmmm:

[Desga]

HI guys I tried to improve bow-Spry resolution, but unfortunately I have encountered many problems that I can not overcome.:hmmm: I am not a modder so I will be happy if there will be someone who can give me some help.
At this link you will find the explanation of my problem ..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=150103

Ciao Desga

[Sag75]

anyway, I tried it, your mod is very beautiful! Finally we have a realistic wake! :up:

Is there a way to get a wake offset during the ship turning? (like in DW, for example)

[kiwi_2005]

Thanks for this mod :salute:

[TigerShark808]

I take a FRAME RATE hit but it nevers bothers me really and I dont have a stellar system ( 2.8 pent4 with 2500GB RAM and a 512 NVIDEA card). Maybe i just dont understand frame-rates but IMO frame-rate only hurts you when your close to land or trying to peep in on all the damage you create.. IMO..Play it real...launch the torps then duck under cover. I get 90ish-100ish frames a second (85 refreash rate) when spotting the MAP and between 25-34 when on watch.

This MOD works for me:)

[Desga]

I'm happy that you like it!