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fair_weather
03-12-09, 06:58 PM
Probably a lot to ask for.

I'm probably not the only one to see how...er...wrong the uboat pens are placed in france. (Damned near impossible to get out of one of them...get way too close to the shore)

And I know people have changed Helgoland Blight in GWX and someone even added the Locks of Kiel.

Anyone up to the task?
Wikimapia would be a BIG help, all the pens are labeled already :D :rock:

But this is probably a pipe dream and a huge undertaking...but if people can add bases in the pacific in SH3...:hmmm:

TheDarkWraith
03-12-09, 10:14 PM
I'm not interested in it but fire up your favorite hex editor or tool and edit the harbor (\data\Terrain\Locations). It's a relatively simple matter to do but will take some time to get it right. All the harbors are made from a set of base objects located in \data\Library\Harbor_kit.dat. Basically 'clones' are made of the object wanted from \data\Library\Harbor_kit.dat and positioned and rotated via the \data\Terrain\Locations\xxxx.dat file. If you want to make new objects then add them to \data\Library\Harbor_kit.dat or create your own file and place in \data\Library and then 'clone' the object in \data\Terrain\Locations\xxxx.dat.

fair_weather
03-12-09, 10:32 PM
Hmmm...might have to learn a bit, but I've got the maps.

I'll give it a shot.:03:

fair_weather
03-12-09, 11:49 PM
Oh dear...this is definitely giving me an urge to do some fixing...

Brest is close to the real thing.

Lorient is too far inland and is a real pain to get in and out of.

St. Nazaire is in the wrong place COMPLETELY. (Look for yourself! Open up SH3MissionEditor and St. Nazaire on google maps!)

La Rochelle needs to be rotated 90' and set more inland, but the harbor looks like a good fit.

And Bordeaux...er...Is reeeeally far upstream, and would have to have some work done to the actual map to fix it.

I'm willing to learn...easiest thing to start would probably be Lorient, it's just a move and rotate jorb.

bigboywooly
03-13-09, 12:21 AM
The " Lorient " used ingame isnt right either

Check this page out

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2371008762/m/7371052556/p/5

nautilus42
03-13-09, 03:41 AM
The " Lorient " used ingame isnt right either

Check this page out

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2371008762/m/7371052556/p/5

Hi BBW my friend

thfeu58 is also working on Bordeaux, it`s near ready.:up:

greetz

nautilus42/trainer1942

TheDarkWraith
03-13-09, 08:49 AM
Oh dear...this is definitely giving me an urge to do some fixing...

Brest is close to the real thing.

Lorient is too far inland and is a real pain to get in and out of.

St. Nazaire is in the wrong place COMPLETELY. (Look for yourself! Open up SH3MissionEditor and St. Nazaire on google maps!)

La Rochelle needs to be rotated 90' and set more inland, but the harbor looks like a good fit.

And Bordeaux...er...Is reeeeally far upstream, and would have to have some work done to the actual map to fix it.

I'm willing to learn...easiest thing to start would probably be Lorient, it's just a move and rotate jorb.

to move an entire harbor you would edit \data\Terrain\Locations.cfg. There are 'generic' harbors for those cities or places that aren't explicitly named. You can also just move the industry or city of the place by editing \data\Terrain\Locations.cfg. Were you able to figure out how to adjust the placement of the objects in a harbor?

Sailor Steve
03-13-09, 12:58 PM
France?

Try Kiel, or Wilhelmshaven. None of the harbors in SH3, or SH4 for that matter, are close to the real deal. There is one talented modder who is working on them, but it takes a long time to do each one.

chanman
07-14-09, 02:04 AM
Personally, I just wish that there was a harbour pilot that could take you out of the harbour. I seem to start the first patrol out of any new harbour the same way - at night, running aground.

HanSolo78
07-14-09, 04:36 AM
If you want the harbours at the right location you could try wac 3.1 or 4.0
3.1 might be better because 4.0 has still some problems on some systems.
I made a rework of all important german harbours and placed them at the correct location.
you coul have a look at the manual first: http://rs255.rapidshare.com/files/138784255/WAC_3.0_Handbuch_manual.pdf

greetings
Han

Blue-Casket
07-14-09, 05:00 AM
Finally i hear something interesting !

Brest is quite accurate but now there is an entire wall around it.
I'm not sure if it was during the war too but still.

If you sail away you should be able to see the many pitboxes and machine gun nests on the cliffs.
and here and there some small bunkers too.
Glad someone is working on it ! :yeah:

Murr44
07-14-09, 01:31 PM
Personally, I just wish that there was a harbour pilot that could take you out of the harbour. I seem to start the first patrol out of any new harbour the same way - at night, running aground.

In GWX you have an escort vessel to guide you out of Brest, Lorient, St. Nazaire, Salamis & Penang. I don't know about La Spezia or Jakarta as I haven't been to those places yet.