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Pioneer
02-09-09, 11:21 PM
Special request for the Werewolf Watchers Network Affiliates...

Rather then the rest of us non players having to step over all the bodies, may we have an "end of play" update as each cycle turns.

EG: Day 1 AM: Lynchmob turns out for player A. Player B found dead by the pool. Player C evicted (etc)

Perhaps in a sticky so only the mod can add to it?


:ping: *** SUBSIM Werewolf Hunt - Story and Game thread *** (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147949):ping:


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Onkel Neal
02-10-09, 12:07 AM
This would be a great job for the Oberst and Keleun, I think. I will sticky it. :yeah:

I'll recap the first parts for you.

Night 1 - Game begins, players, intoduced, Gus the Constable found shredded behind the U-boat fuel Depot.

Day 1, lots of drinking and doubting, no real leadership asserted, cute barmaid pinched numerous times. No lynch vote, it hasn't really hit them yet.

Night 2 Chief Engineer Raptor leaves the boat to bring coffee to his friend Letum, and perhaps hear a story or two about his conquests... result: Raptor is found mangled and bloody, hanging from a smashed searchlight (which apparently is still smashed heading into Night 3...); Letum is found seriously injured, rifled with scratches and cuts, emeshed in the concertina wire.

Day 2: Letum is taken to the makeshift infirmary, he is comatose. Oberst Chad comes alive and begins setting up guard duties. His men obey quickly. Kapt. Jimbuna moves the U-13 100 meters from shore. Mayor Contact gets a headache and takes a nap. Barmaid Penelope reveals some odd coarse black fur she found on her windowsill (a close call?). Oberst Chad announces a state of emergency and calls for all to vote for a lynching of the most likely person behind the murders. Participation is slow and hesitant (they can sink merchants but they cannot shoot werewolves? Such a tender-hearted lot).

We're about 8 hours forum time from closing the lynch vote and taking action, then Night 3 will start.

A Very Super Market
02-10-09, 12:10 AM
Just a(nother) question, what exactly was the criteria for selection anyways?

Chad
02-10-09, 12:20 AM
This would be a great job for the Oberst and Keleun, I think. I will sticky it. :yeah:

Of course it'd be a good job for me, let me add it to the list:

1. Manage and maintain Kamp Letzte Jagd, keeping all personnel and assets safe.
2. Try to overthrow the corrupt local government of the village to keep my soldiers safe.
3. Get Kaleu Jimbuna back at sea as quickly as possible to fight in this long, drawn out war.
4. Watch my back
5. Create a quick post of updates in the thread... I'm never going to finish my project at this rate :03:

Onkel Neal
02-10-09, 12:30 AM
Just a(nother) question, what exactly was the criteria for selection anyways?

My favorite method: first come, first serve.

FIREWALL
02-10-09, 12:39 AM
Hell Neal, I'm being followed when I post a different topic on another thread.:haha:

August
02-10-09, 08:52 AM
So where do the Allies figure in all this? It sounds like the Norwegian townspeople are getting pretty cosy with the invaders... :stare:

UnderseaLcpl
02-10-09, 09:00 AM
So where do the Allies figure in all this? It sounds like the Norwegian townspeople are getting pretty cozy with the invaders... :stare:

That's because we're better than the Soviets. The Allies have proven that they are willing to sell them out to the Soviets for questionable reasons. Much of eastern Europe and Scandinavia would prefer a National Socialist regime to a communist one.
Norway is no exception. Britain was planning to invade Norway as well before Operation Wesserbung, they simply lacked the means to do so before the Germans managed it.

Oberon
02-10-09, 11:33 AM
DAY 2 EVENING: Mayor Contact is shot by lynch-mob. Found to be carrying a guardian talisman.

DAY 2 NIGHT BEGINS.

CaptainHaplo
02-10-09, 06:34 PM
Ouch - the first one to go is a guardian - not a promising start for all the humans....

baggygreen
02-10-09, 07:15 PM
what a night - 3 kills, wow!

A Very Super Market
02-10-09, 09:02 PM
Don't joke about this! Why.. why.. I bet you Australians and New Zealanders are behind it all! Hiding in the "harmless" ticker thread... you're conspiring to kill us North Americans and Euro people!

Lynch 'em all!

stabiz
02-10-09, 09:07 PM
Wooopsie!

SandyCaesar
02-10-09, 09:08 PM
DAY 2 NIGHT:

LAUFEN ZUM ZIEL, FINCUAN, and NOKIA are killed by werewolves.

Sailor Steve
02-10-09, 09:37 PM
DAY 2 NIGHT:

LAUFEN ZUM ZIEL, FINCUAN, and NOKIA are killed by werewolves.
At this point, don't you mean "killed by...something..."?

A Very Super Market
02-10-09, 09:39 PM
I wonder why Sailor Steve isn't playing.

My paranoia tells me that HE is the true ringmaster in this game, and not Neal!

Sailor Steve
02-10-09, 09:52 PM
Sailor Steve was invited to play, but since he has to go to the library to post he didn't even see the invitation until after the game started.

Just as well, since I would have missed most chances to post in the game thread for the same reason. It's fun to watch though. Maybe I'll be the Gestapo agent who conducts the investigation when it's all over.:sunny:

Or covers it up and makes the survivors disappear...

Task Force
02-10-09, 09:54 PM
Maby Steve will join if we play again. (I know I will.):DL :D

Onkel Neal
02-10-09, 11:03 PM
I wonder why Sailor Steve isn't playing.

My paranoia tells me that HE is the true ringmaster in this game, and not Neal!

He always has been.

Sailor Steve
02-10-09, 11:08 PM
Yeah, right!:nope: :rotfl:

baggygreen
02-10-09, 11:10 PM
Don't joke about this! Why.. why.. I bet you Australians and New Zealanders are behind it all! Hiding in the "harmless" ticker thread... you're conspiring to kill us North Americans and Euro people!

Lynch 'em all!hehe,

we got no time for werewolves, we got our own drop bears to deal with - now they're a real menace

A Very Super Market
02-11-09, 01:28 AM
Insanity of my beloved character aside, here is the complete list :D

Day 0 (Before the thread started)
Gus -- Town officer -- Ripped apart by "something"

Neal's hard-coded activities on Day 1
Escape is impossible, all players are cut off from Trondheim.
Gus found by fuel tanks
Existing animosity between military personnel and townspeople

Player's activities
No one cares enough to not drink themselves silly, except for Penelope_Grey who is disgusted by the lack of concern, and especially fed up with Firewall who makes a fool of himself in the corner.
Oberst Chad doesn't really do anything.
SandyCaesar returns from fishing to find a much more melancholy village, but still goes to the pub for a drink
Letum and UnderseaLcpl discuss things without tripping over their own words.
Chad quickly regains control of the situation and issues orders.
Task Force ambles over to the bar/inn. Half the town is there already.
NealT acts like a stereotypical fisherman
Laufen zum Ziel is the first to actually start playing the game and cast suspicions, mostly involving SandyCaesar
Weiss Pinguin wakes up with a hangover
A Very Super Market scares himself silly and hides in the inn bathroom
Raptor1 inspects the submarine
Absolutely nothing accomplished on Day 1

Night 1
Firewall remarks on Task Force's random wanderings
A Very Super Market misses guard duty
Mayor Contact goes home
Xabbarus, Letum, JCwolf, lesrae, Oberon, Raptor1 are all at the bar, which is promptly closed by Penelope_Grey
Jimbuna appears and inspects his men, then goes to bed.
Hauptmann Hitman reports to the Oberst
Business is done by the Guardians, Seers and Werewolves.
Raptor1 is found disintegrated into many pieces
Letum is tangled in the wire, comatose and beaten

Day 2

Nokia wakes up to find the state of chaos the town is in, then promptly accused by Penelope_Grey
Laufen zum Ziel begins to question why Letum has inexplicably survived
And inspection of Letum brings no clear results.
The werewolf "myths" are starting to be announced
mookiemookie is beginning to suspect the camp personnel
The men start to contemplate bringing hand grenades with them on patrol

Day 2 lynching
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall
Firewall votes for Jimbuna
A Very Super Market votes for Letum, then changes is it to Contact after some prodding from Chad, who also votes for Contact
Oberon votes for NealTthen also changes to Contact
SandyCaesar suprises the town with a vote for Contact
Laufen zum Ziel votes for Nokia
Hitman votes for Contact
XabbaRus votes for Nokia
UnderseaLcpl votes for Contact
NealT votes for Penelope_Grey who quickly denies it.
Contact attempts to defend himself by calling to lynch Chad
mookiemookie also suprises his fellow Norwegians by voting for Contact
Gorduz suddenly pops out of nowhere and votes Contact
Jimbuna votes to euthanize Letum and doesn't change his vote
Fincuan defends his captain's honour by voting Firewall

And obviously, Contact was found guilty and executed. Only after did we discover that he was a Guardian.

Rest of Day 2
*Soon to come
Raptor1's spirit returns to inject some roleplaying.

Night 2
Fincuan and Laufen zum Ziel are found disembodied near the Eastern watch tower
Nokia is found with a makeshift tracheotomy

Day 3
Oberon fishes around a well for, um, no reason in particular, and finds Lesrae's dead, deceased corpse. Suicide, most likely, because he was still in one piece. Oberon also fixes the broken searchlight and fortifies the east tower. Oberon does more work than anyone 'round here
JCwolf types several essays of his ramblings, and describes his dreams, conflict, and inner emotion in an act of brilliance that no one really compliments. Oh well. He is rather suspicious though.
The camp personnel begin to suspect Gorduz who's only appearance during the day is described by Jimbuna
Weiss Pinguin stops drinking his milk. I need to include him somehow
UnderseaLcpl begins to examine lesrae determining that he is dead and shot. Letum lies lonely in the corner, deprived of blood due to the Sergeant Major forgetting that type-O would be fine for any tranfusion.
Task Force is hard at work trying to repair the boat.
Raptor1 returns once again to tell Task Force of his mechanical mistakes. Raptor1 also forgets to mention who killed him. Raptor1 is doing a poor job at being dead.
Jimbuna also decides to scare the dickens out of his crew. The brass in this town are not exactly "Up-and-at-'em"
Like Chad who hasn't posted any orders. Whoop, never mind, he quickly figures out beforehand that lesrae was missing.

Day 3 Lynching
UnderseaLcpl starts it off with a vote for the ever-absent Gorduz
XabbaRus does the obvious thing, and votes for JCwolf. That's not dramatic!
mookiemookie also votes JCwolf
Aramike abstains. Like a wuss. Not really, it was a good choice. But it's not like somebody won't get lynched, people!
Stabiz votes for UnderseaLcpl
Oberon questions Firewall's wherabouts, but decides on Gorduz
JCwolf votes for Firewall for very unclear reasons, then Gorduz still for very unclear reasons.
Task Force gives in to his suspicions, and votes JCwolf
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall but realizes that he didn't mess up the bar today, and changes to Letum
NealT votes for JCwolf
Nisgeis votes for Penelope_Grey
Chad votes for Gorduz
SandyCaesar abstains, and expresses his disbelief that Letum is a werewolf.
A Very Super Market votes for Gorduz, but makes his displeasure at guard duty very obvious whilst doing so. He also points out a plot error. Neal is presumably displeased
Hitman votes Gorduz
Firewall votes NealT
Gorduz appears and votes JCwolf
Weiss Pinguin votes Gorduz
Jimbuna once again votes to euthanize Letum

And obviously, Gorduz is executed, though by who we don't know. It is revealed that he took poor care of his teeth, or had parents with unfortunate orthodontic situations. At least he wasn't a guardian.

Rest of Day 3
Letum wakes up, causing A Very Super Market to faint, then wakes up again, then gets scared of the fortified tower, then runs to the infirmary, then faints again when he sees the previously comatose, but still in-pain Letum.
UnderseaLcpl and JCwolf reach Letum before that, and attempt to calm him down.
And mookiemookie does that as well.
The evening is basically centered on Letum,

Night 3
Looks like we were wrong about everything, or maybe just unlucky. 4 deaths
JCwolf and UnderseaLcpl are in the infirmary or something. Oh yeah, and they're dead. Can't forget that
NealT is found outside the enlisted bunks, dead. Obviously
Stabiz is dead. He actually died first, but no one was even mentioned his death in the thread yet. Weird. And suspicious...

Day 4
Brits and Spaniards do their stuff. I miss it all, and have to read 5 pages of text (including a huge speech by Penelope_Grey) at 6:00 in the morning. I wish I didn't post that motivating message about waking up.
More to come!
Actually, no I've missed it all. Will update this part later.
Letum is lynched, but he argues about it. Make up your mind! Too late, we shot him. And he isn't a werewolf. Woo.

Night 4
Task Force is revealed to be a werewolf, but another one eats him. I was suprised too. No word on who ate him, but I assume that Neal felt bad for the humans and broke the rules to kill a werewolf.
Chad is guarded by A Very Super Market who is in turn guarded by mookiemookie a hellhound attempts to eat them all, but only gets the colonel. Lovely, we've lost more leadership, no matter the actual number of people who listen to him. Which numbers to like, 2 people.
SandyCaesar is out on his boat. Even normal wolves can swim. You know what comes after. Odd how no one on the U-boot notices the guttural screams in Norwegian, or how the watch officers can possibly not see it happen.

Day 5
More drama from the Brits. Hitman is a Spaniard, but he is also a werewolf. Oops, did I spoil the ending already? Sorry. Either way, I miss it all, and can only vote Aramike after everyone does their stuff.
Nisgeis votes for A Very Super Market, which freaks the bejeezus out of me, but changes to Hitman. I'm relieved.

More to come! Dinner for now.
I hunger...




Things shall be updated as more news reaches me. Stay tuned for more AVSM direct cable...

Jimbuna
02-11-09, 06:12 AM
This thread should be very helpful.....easier to read than my scribbled notes http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img413/1373/smileyeatpaperpl0.gif

JCWolf
02-11-09, 06:48 AM
This thread should be very helpful.....easier to read than my scribbled notes http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img413/1373/smileyeatpaperpl0.gif


:haha:


You take notes...:o

I find myself constantly betwin page one of the game topic and last page or post to check everytime who is who !:haha:

...and mor important who have said or done what !:D

Jimbuna
02-11-09, 07:31 AM
Multitasking :DL

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

Oberon
02-11-09, 08:20 AM
This thread should be very helpful.....easier to read than my scribbled notes http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img413/1373/smileyeatpaperpl0.gif


:haha:


You take notes...:o




Of course he takes notes!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southtoday/content/images/2007/09/12/police_archive_gallery_28_470x300.jpg

:yeah:

JCWolf
02-11-09, 08:36 AM
This thread should be very helpful.....easier to read than my scribbled notes http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img413/1373/smileyeatpaperpl0.gif


:haha:


You take notes...:o




Of course he takes notes!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southtoday/content/images/2007/09/12/police_archive_gallery_28_470x300.jpg

:yeah:


:timeout: Sure had forgoten completly...He is a Cop.....:haha:

So its like everything we say goes on record....:D

Contact
02-11-09, 08:55 AM
This was a total persuasion of those who changed their minds to vote against me!

They thought they're gonna be so right, but turned out they were so wrong :haha:

Onkel Neal
02-11-09, 09:27 AM
Insanity of my beloved character aside, here is the complete list :D

Day 0 (Before the thread started)
Gus -- Town officer -- Ripped apart by "something"

Neal's hard-coded activities on Day 1
Escape is impossible, all players are cut off from Trondheim.
Gus found by fuel tanks
Existing animosity between military personnel and townspeople

Player's activities
No one cares enough to not drink themselves silly, except for Penelope_Grey who is disgusted by the lack of concern, and especially fed up with Firewall who makes a fool of himself in the corner.
Oberst Chad doesn't really do anything.
SandyCaesar returns from fishing to find a much more melancholy village, but still goes to the pub for a drink
Letum and UnderseaLcpl discuss things without tripping over their own words.
Chad quickly regains control of the situation and issues orders.
Task Force ambles over to the bar/inn. Half the town is there already.
NealT acts like a stereotypical fisherman
Laufen zum Ziel is the first to actually start playing the game and cast suspicions, mostly involving SandyCaesar
Weiss Pinguin wakes up with a hangover
A Very Super Market scares himself silly and hides is the inn bathroom
.........


Pure awesomeness!!

Plus, Chad has figured out lesrae is MIA from the constant presence of his sheep everywhere...and Oberon fixes the East Tower searchlight. :rock:

UnderseaLcpl
02-11-09, 11:53 AM
This was a total persuasion of those who changed their minds to vote against me!

They thought they're gonna be so right, but turned out they were so wrong :haha:

If you hadn't witheld information until the last minute, you wouldn't have died. That's what happens when you don't cooperate with the investigation.

Contact
02-11-09, 12:00 PM
This was a total persuasion of those who changed their minds to vote against me!

They thought they're gonna be so right, but turned out they were so wrong :haha:

If you hadn't witheld information until the last minute, you wouldn't have died. That's what happens when you don't cooperate with the investigation.

Thats a lie. I did told you what I knew and who I really was and you still voted against me, so you better think how you're going to hide your own traces now. It's just a question of time when hunters going to become hunted :shucks:

UnderseaLcpl
02-11-09, 12:31 PM
This was a total persuasion of those who changed their minds to vote against me!

They thought they're gonna be so right, but turned out they were so wrong :haha:

If you hadn't witheld information until the last minute, you wouldn't have died. That's what happens when you don't cooperate with the investigation.

Thats a lie. I did told you what I knew and who I really was and you still voted against me, so you better think how you're going to hide your own traces now. It's just a question of time when hunters going to become hunted :shucks:

Actually I didn't get back to get your last PM until after the lynch vote. But I am sorry about that.

Contact
02-11-09, 12:39 PM
This was a total persuasion of those who changed their minds to vote against me!

They thought they're gonna be so right, but turned out they were so wrong :haha:

If you hadn't witheld information until the last minute, you wouldn't have died. That's what happens when you don't cooperate with the investigation.

Thats a lie. I did told you what I knew and who I really was and you still voted against me, so you better think how you're going to hide your own traces now. It's just a question of time when hunters going to become hunted :shucks:

Actually I didn't get back to get your last PM until after the lynch vote. But I am sorry about that.

Oh.. you're sorry... ain't that nice, and I'm dead in that cold dark grave!

If I could be an evil ghost there woud be a second nightmare, next to warewolves for those who are sorry now :haha:

UnderseaLcpl
02-11-09, 01:35 PM
Oh.. you're sorry... ain't that nice, and I'm dead in that cold dark grave!

If I could be an evil ghost there woud be a second nightmare, next to warewolves for those who are sorry now :haha:

Grave? What grave? We burned your body and put your head on a pike to serve as a warning to.....I don't know, heads I guess.:D Neal's orders:salute:

Oberon
02-11-09, 01:37 PM
Day 2 - Daytime: Oberon finds Lesrae the shepherds body at the bottom of the village well with a bullet hole in his chest.

Onkel Neal
02-11-09, 01:40 PM
Oh.. you're sorry... ain't that nice, and I'm dead in that cold dark grave!

If I could be an evil ghost there woud be a second nightmare, next to warewolves for those who are sorry now :haha:

Grave? What grave? We burned your body and put your head on a pike to serve as a warning to.....I don't know, heads I guess.:D Neal's orders:salute:

Haha, not :D

Oberon finds Lesrae the shepherds body at the bottom of the village well with a bullet hole in his chest.

Yep, that is an official story plot twist.:yeah:

Contact
02-11-09, 01:56 PM
Oh.. you're sorry... ain't that nice, and I'm dead in that cold dark grave!

If I could be an evil ghost there woud be a second nightmare, next to warewolves for those who are sorry now :haha:

Grave? What grave? We burned your body and put your head on a pike to serve as a warning to.....I don't know, heads I guess.:D Neal's orders:salute:

Talking about the pikes. I will laugh the last one while watching you seated on it.. alive :D

Jimbuna
02-11-09, 03:27 PM
LMAO :rotfl:

This has gotta rank amongst one of the best laughs in SS for a long time http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2772/thumbsupgv0.gif

Onkel Neal
02-11-09, 07:58 PM
Day 2 - Daytime: Oberon finds Lesrae the shepherds body at the bottom of the village well with a bullet hole in his chest.

Day 2, they lynch Gorduz the radioman from U-13, and Letum comes out of his coma. Night 3 begins...

JCWolf
02-11-09, 08:02 PM
Day 2 - Daytime: Oberon finds Lesrae the shepherds body at the bottom of the village well with a bullet hole in his chest.

Day 2, they lynch Gorduz the radioman from U-13, and Letum comes out of his coma. Night 3 begins...


you are not posting the Usual story over the game thread ????

or are you ????:06:

Onkel Neal
02-11-09, 08:02 PM
Huh?

This is the highlights thread.

JCWolf
02-11-09, 08:05 PM
Huh?

This is the highlights thread.


hehe....:D


Just adding some presure on your nice and soft day's work...hehe:D

Onkel Neal
02-11-09, 08:10 PM
:dead: Haha, I don't need the extra stress here :rotfl:

A Very Super Market
02-11-09, 08:53 PM
Odd how this thread sees very little, non-werewolf (hunter) traffic..:hmmm:

Also, I updated my super-post.

UnderseaLcpl
02-11-09, 09:01 PM
Odd how this thread sees very little, non-werewolf (hunter) traffic..:hmmm:

Also, I updated my super-post.

I love the super-post:up: but I examined lesrae, not Gorduz.

A Very Super Market
02-12-09, 12:29 AM
Yeah, feel free to tell about any typos and such. When the thread is finished, this will be the first thing you will see in the "thoughts" thread. The thing in updated again, albeit limitedly. It's a pretty lackluster update, but I'm sleepy.

Onkel Neal
02-12-09, 01:10 AM
Funniest bit yet:

Goes up on u 13s bridge.

"whats all that noise."

Letum woke up.

Oah. (gets revolver with silver bullets.)


:har:

Jimbuna
02-12-09, 06:24 AM
Anyone like maggots :DL

NealT
02-12-09, 09:13 AM
Baked, fried, or steamed?

With or without catsup?

:timeout:

Makes no difference anyway cause I am now deader than a doornail...:salute::har::har::rotfl:

Weiss Pinguin
02-12-09, 10:51 AM
Funniest bit yet:

Goes up on u 13s bridge.

"whats all that noise."

Letum woke up.

Oah. (gets revolver with silver bullets.)


:har:
:rotfl:

Cracks me up everytime I see it.

JCWolf
02-12-09, 10:57 AM
Well it looks like with all my efforts and know how,
I end up as Werewolf Breackfast anyway....


I certanly hope that at least I had the chance
of injure one of the Fured Tommys.....:woot:

Hitman
02-12-09, 12:50 PM
WAKE UP BRITS. AND SPANIARD.


Uh? Ah yes:

Alooooonso, Aloooooooooonso :yeah:

Hamilton a moron, Hamilton a moron :woot:

JCWolf
02-12-09, 04:06 PM
WAKE UP BRITS. AND SPANIARD.


Uh? Ah yes:

Alooooonso, Aloooooooooonso :yeah:

Hamilton a moron, Hamilton a moron :woot:


:haha:

Task Force
02-12-09, 04:10 PM
I would have to say this is the most fun ive had on the internet ever. (also are subsim aviator flight.):DL Its better than a movie.

JCWolf
02-12-09, 05:18 PM
Yea Neal S. should do more of this games...:D


---maybe he catches the words in betwin........

Jimbuna
02-12-09, 05:50 PM
I would have to say this is the most fun ive had on the internet ever. (also are subsim aviator flight.):DL Its better than a movie.

TS is much more rewarding with a mic.

TS = TeamSpeak not TypeSpeak :hmmm:

mookiemookie
02-12-09, 06:10 PM
This is definitely a blast and I'm up for the next one. :yeah:

JCWolf
02-13-09, 07:33 AM
I would have to say this is the most fun ive had on the internet ever. (also are subsim aviator flight.):DL Its better than a movie.

TS is much more rewarding with a mic.

TS = TeamSpeak not TypeSpeak :hmmm:


:har:

Onkel Neal
02-13-09, 01:14 PM
Day 4
Xabba cracks up and shoots himself. Human effort is weakened by one more.
Penelope makes impassioned cry to lynch Task Force, who freaks and runs off into the woods.
Lesrae's corpse, devoid of the silber bullet that was in it, is gone.... oh boy.
Letum is ranting and asking to be lynched. Most agree, shooting him is the only way to shut him up. Letum is lynched. He was nots, but not a werewolf.

NIGHT 4
A werewolf kills Task Force, who is revealed as a werewolf with bad timing.
SandyCaeser is killed.
Chad is killed, even though protected by Super Market, who in turn was protected by mookie.

Pioneer
02-13-09, 02:02 PM
Can we also get a "who's left" teaser?

Weiss Pinguin
02-13-09, 02:09 PM
I didn't realise we'd already lost so many people :o

Task Force
02-13-09, 02:50 PM
I know standing down and not attacking anybody was a bad Idea, I will forever haunt that persons at that base.... (btw, I was killed on friday the 13... The only bad luck ive had today.) Im gonna keep a close watch on that thread though...

Onkel Neal
02-13-09, 03:09 PM
Can we also get a "who's left" teaser?


Here is the list of players and their public identities as of 2/13 8:00 AM

Kamp Letzte Jagd personnel
Chad -Oberst (Colonel) [DEAD]
Hitman - Hauptmann (Captain)
UnderseaLcpl - Oberfeldwebel (Sergeant Major) [DEAD]
Oberon - Gefreiter (Corporal)
stabiz - Gefreiter (Corporal) [DEAD]
A Very Super Market - Gemeiner (Private)
Letum - Gemeiner (Private) [LYNCHED]
Laufen zum Ziel - Gemeiner (Private) [DEAD]
JCWolf - Gemeiner (Private) [DEAD]

U-BOAT 13
Jimbuna - Kapitänleutnant
Raptor1 - Chief Engineer [DEAD]
Nisgeis - Leutnant zur See
Fincuan - Oberfähnrich zur See [DEAD]
Weiß Pinguin - Wachoffizier
Gorduz - Funker [LYNCHED]
Task Force - Seaman [DEAD]
Firewall - Seaman
Aramike - Seaman

Village of Vanvikan
Contact - Mayor [LYNCHED]
mookiemookie - Postman, acting mayor
Nokia - Innskeeper [DEAD]
Penelope_Grey - Barmaid, new owner of Mercy's Inn
XabbaRus - Sailor [SUICIDE]
SandyCaesar - Fisherman [DEAD]
NealT - Fisherman [DEAD]
lesrae - Shepperd [DEAD]
Gus - constable [DEAD]

Task Force
02-13-09, 03:22 PM
Only 10 out of 20+. There droping like flys.:rotfl:

Letum
02-13-09, 03:30 PM
Letum is ranting and asking to be lynched. Most agree, shooting him is the only way to shut him up. Letum is lynched. He was nuts, but not a werewolf.

:rotfl:

Task Force
02-13-09, 03:34 PM
Ya know what. I may have died... but I made the crazyest exit.:haha: Letting the crazy man out... running away... sitting in the forest... getting killed by what I surspect to be the hellhound.:rotfl:

Letum
02-13-09, 03:51 PM
The Vanvikan Mental health facilities are really horrible.

Day1:

Dammit! I have gaurd duty in the cold.
Dammit! I have to write a report about some dead local.
Dammit! No luck with the bar maid.Night1:

Dammit! Wolves murder my first friend in Vanvikan.
Dammit! Everything has gone black.
Dammit! No one will give me a blood transfusion.
Dammit! The incompetent Doctor forgot I could take O- blood.The day I woke up:

Dammit! I'm traumatized by the attack.
Dammit! They have tied me up.
Dammit! Some local thinks I'm turning into a wolf and wants to 'cure' me.The next day:

Dammit! My Doctor and all those who care for me are killed.
Dammit! People are voting for me.
Dammit! I'm still tied up.
Dammit! Someone releases me if I promise to vote for who he votes for, but
then both of us are killed.

Jimbuna
02-13-09, 04:06 PM
Looks like tonight could be the most telling.

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

Penelope_Grey
02-13-09, 04:07 PM
Ya know what. I may have died... but I made the crazyest exit.:haha: Letting the crazy man out... running away... sitting in the forest... getting killed by what I surspect to be the hellhound.:rotfl:

We should have strung you up sooner! Had I my way you'd be hanging from the last yardarm!!:arrgh!:

Onkel Neal
02-13-09, 04:51 PM
Dammit! No one will give me a blood transfusion.
Dammit! The incompetent Doctor forgot I could take O- blood.



:har: Totally great!

Jimbuna
02-13-09, 05:08 PM
Ya know what. I may have died... but I made the crazyest exit.:haha: Letting the crazy man out... running away... sitting in the forest... getting killed by what I surspect to be the hellhound.:rotfl:

We should have strung you up sooner! Had I my way you'd be hanging from the last yardarm!!:arrgh!:

LMAO :rotfl:

Oberon
02-13-09, 07:29 PM
Day 5: The humans finally get it right!

Task Force
02-13-09, 07:53 PM
If I had my way about it.
Day 6 Swarm of killer bees enters bar. while everyone is in there drunk.

I wasnt gonna let youall shoot me. lol that would give you too much pleasure. (id perfer youall would find me tore up by someone (I think its cause I missed 2 killings.) Or I would have shot myself...) (but being torn up is fine with me... Youall couldnt have fun watching me get shot.)

Jimbuna
02-13-09, 07:57 PM
If I had my way about it.
Day 6 Swarm of killer bees enters bar. while everyone is in there drunk.

I wasnt gonna let youall shoot me. lol that would give you too much pleasure. (id perfer youall would find me tore up by someone (I think its cause I missed 2 killings.) Or I would have shot myself... (but being torn up is fine with me... at least they didnt get to see me in my wolf form.)

Well you'd be okay....there are age restrictions on bars :)

Task Force
02-13-09, 07:59 PM
And anouther thing... You have a HORIABLE sence of judgement. it took youall 5 days to find out who was a wolf.:rotfl:

Oberon
02-13-09, 07:59 PM
If I survive the night and we miss tomorrow it'll be:

Night 6: A group of RAF Bomber Command Lancasters flatten the village and base after someone provides them with a brilliantly fiery target...


:salute:

Task Force
02-13-09, 08:00 PM
If I had my way about it.
Day 6 Swarm of killer bees enters bar. while everyone is in there drunk.

I wasnt gonna let youall shoot me. lol that would give you too much pleasure. (id perfer youall would find me tore up by someone (I think its cause I missed 2 killings.) Or I would have shot myself... (but being torn up is fine with me... at least they didnt get to see me in my wolf form.)

Well you'd be okay....there are age restrictions on bars :)

(Im dead, im fine ither way. lol.)

Task Force
02-13-09, 08:02 PM
If I survive the night and we miss tomorrow it'll be:

Night 6: A group of RAF Bomber Command Lancasters flatten the village and base after someone provides them with a brilliantly fiery target...


:salute:

(I already thought of that idea, been thinking of fowarding the Idea to neal.:rotfl:

Jimbuna
02-13-09, 08:08 PM
If I had my way about it.
Day 6 Swarm of killer bees enters bar. while everyone is in there drunk.

I wasnt gonna let youall shoot me. lol that would give you too much pleasure. (id perfer youall would find me tore up by someone (I think its cause I missed 2 killings.) Or I would have shot myself... (but being torn up is fine with me... at least they didnt get to see me in my wolf form.)

Well you'd be okay....there are age restrictions on bars :)

(Im dead, im fine ither way. lol.)

How can that be....your posting quicker than a speed typist....you've reached olympic standard.:rotfl:

Task Force
02-13-09, 08:09 PM
Dem typin classes as school paid off.:rotfl:

A Very Super Market
02-13-09, 09:19 PM
The next game should be about an allied bomber crew bailing out over the village, plus whoever survived the game. I think it would be a fitting premise

Task Force
02-13-09, 09:50 PM
Yea I realy enjoyed the game.:DL

A Very Super Market
02-13-09, 10:03 PM
Quick repost. For anyone who missed most things.

Insanity of my beloved character aside, here is the complete list :D

Day 0 (Before the thread started)
Gus -- Town officer -- Ripped apart by "something"

Neal's hard-coded activities on Day 1
Escape is impossible, all players are cut off from Trondheim.
Gus found by fuel tanks
Existing animosity between military personnel and townspeople

Player's activities
No one cares enough to not drink themselves silly, except for Penelope_Grey who is disgusted by the lack of concern, and especially fed up with Firewall who makes a fool of himself in the corner.
Oberst Chad doesn't really do anything.
SandyCaesar returns from fishing to find a much more melancholy village, but still goes to the pub for a drink
Letum and UnderseaLcpl discuss things without tripping over their own words.
Chad quickly regains control of the situation and issues orders.
Task Force ambles over to the bar/inn. Half the town is there already.
NealT acts like a stereotypical fisherman
Laufen zum Ziel is the first to actually start playing the game and cast suspicions, mostly involving SandyCaesar
Weiss Pinguin wakes up with a hangover
A Very Super Market scares himself silly and hides in the inn bathroom
Raptor1 inspects the submarine
Absolutely nothing accomplished on Day 1

Night 1
Firewall remarks on Task Force's random wanderings
A Very Super Market misses guard duty
Mayor Contact goes home
Xabbarus, Letum, JCwolf, lesrae, Oberon, Raptor1 are all at the bar, which is promptly closed by Penelope_Grey
Jimbuna appears and inspects his men, then goes to bed.
Hauptmann Hitman reports to the Oberst
Business is done by the Guardians, Seers and Werewolves.
Raptor1 is found disintegrated into many pieces
Letum is tangled in the wire, comatose and beaten

Day 2

Nokia wakes up to find the state of chaos the town is in, then promptly accused by Penelope_Grey
Laufen zum Ziel begins to question why Letum has inexplicably survived
And inspection of Letum brings no clear results.
The werewolf "myths" are starting to be announced
mookiemookie is beginning to suspect the camp personnel
The men start to contemplate bringing hand grenades with them on patrol

Day 2 lynching
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall
Firewall votes for Jimbuna
A Very Super Market votes for Letum, then changes is it to Contact after some prodding from Chad, who also votes for Contact
Oberon votes for NealTthen also changes to Contact
SandyCaesar suprises the town with a vote for Contact
Laufen zum Ziel votes for Nokia
Hitman votes for Contact with a fake seer report. Absolutely no one (Maybe Penelope did) notices, and he lives until Day 5. Oops
XabbaRus votes for Nokia
UnderseaLcpl votes for Contact
NealT votes for Penelope_Grey who quickly denies it.
Contact attempts to defend himself by calling to lynch Chad
mookiemookie also suprises his fellow Norwegians by voting for Contact
Gorduz suddenly pops out of nowhere and votes Contact
Jimbuna votes to euthanize Letum and doesn't change his vote
Fincuan defends his captain's honour by voting Firewall

And obviously, Contact was found guilty and executed. Only after did we discover that he was a Guardian.

Rest of Day 2
Raptor1's spirit returns to inject some roleplaying.

Night 2
Fincuan and Laufen zum Ziel are found disembodied near the Eastern watch tower
Nokia is found with a makeshift tracheotomy
I think this is the night when I turned into a Guardian-Seer. And then I lost it next night. *Sigh

Day 3
Oberon fishes around a well for, um, no reason in particular, and finds Lesrae's dead, deceased corpse. Suicide, most likely, because he was still in one piece. Oberon also fixes the broken searchlight and fortifies the east tower. Oberon does more work than anyone 'round here
JCwolf types several essays of his ramblings, and describes his dreams, conflict, and inner emotion in an act of brilliance that no one really compliments. Oh well. He is rather suspicious though.
The camp personnel begin to suspect Gorduz who's only appearance during the day is described by Jimbuna
Weiss Pinguin stops drinking his milk. I need to include him somehow
UnderseaLcpl begins to examine lesrae determining that he is dead and shot. Letum lies lonely in the corner, deprived of blood due to the Sergeant Major forgetting that type-O would be fine for any tranfusion.
Task Force is hard at work trying to repair the boat.
Raptor1 returns once again to tell Task Force of his mechanical mistakes. Raptor1 also forgets to mention who killed him. Raptor1 is doing a poor job at being dead.
Jimbuna also decides to scare the dickens out of his crew. The brass in this town are not exactly "Up-and-at-'em"
Like Chad who hasn't posted any orders. Whoop, never mind, he quickly figures out beforehand that lesrae was missing.

Day 3 Lynching
UnderseaLcpl starts it off with a vote for the ever-absent Gorduz
XabbaRus does the obvious thing, and votes for JCwolf. That's not dramatic!
mookiemookie also votes JCwolf
Aramike abstains. Like a wuss. Not really, it was a good choice. But it's not like somebody won't get lynched, people!
Stabiz votes for UnderseaLcpl
Oberon questions Firewall's wherabouts, but decides on Gorduz
JCwolf votes for Firewall for very unclear reasons, then Gorduz still for very unclear reasons.
Task Force gives in to his suspicions, and votes JCwolf
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall but realizes that he didn't mess up the bar today, and changes to Letum
NealT votes for JCwolf
Nisgeis votes for Penelope_Grey
Chad votes for Gorduz
SandyCaesar abstains, and expresses his disbelief that Letum is a werewolf.
A Very Super Market votes for Gorduz, but makes his displeasure at guard duty very obvious whilst doing so. He also points out a plot error. Neal is presumably displeased
Hitman votes Gorduz
Firewall votes NealT
Gorduz appears and votes JCwolf
Weiss Pinguin votes Gorduz
Jimbuna once again votes to euthanize Letum

And obviously, Gorduz is executed, though by who we don't know. It is revealed that he took poor care of his teeth, or had parents with unfortunate orthodontic situations. At least he wasn't a guardian.

Rest of Day 3
Letum wakes up, causing A Very Super Market to faint, then wakes up again, then gets scared of the fortified tower, then runs to the infirmary, then faints again when he sees the previously comatose, but still in-pain Letum.
UnderseaLcpl and JCwolf reach Letum before that, and attempt to calm him down.
And mookiemookie does that as well.
The evening is basically centered on Letum
Chad and A Very Super Market spend the night in the officers mess. Its nice.


Night 3
Looks like we were wrong about everything, or maybe just unlucky. 4 deaths
JCwolf and UnderseaLcpl are in the infirmary or something. Oh yeah, and they're dead. Can't forget that
NealT is found outside the enlisted bunks, dead. Obviously
Stabiz is dead. He actually died first, but no one was even mentioned his death in the thread yet. Weird. And suspicious...

Day 4
Brits and Spaniards do their stuff. I miss it all, and have to read 5 pages of text (including a huge speech by Penelope_Grey) at 6:00 in the morning. I wish I didn't post that motivating message about waking up.
Oberon gets to work early (As always) and quickly finds the bodies. Then, he forgets about them and goes to the school. Oh, no reason.
A Very Super Market wakes up, smells the corpse of NealT and runs outside. His shoes are now covered in blood. Those werewolves need to clean up after themselves! Then, he runs to the infirmary, where there is even more blood. Weird how the werewolf killed the guardian and buff Sergeant Major, but not half-dead Letum. Very strange indeed...
Penelope_Grey and Oberon talk, apparently forgetting about the bodies that Super Market is crapping himself over.
Hitman hides his glee, and inspects the camp. And laps up some leftover blood. Eugh...
mookiemookie makes a lewd comment, then returns to normal.
Letum goes crazy, and then votes for himself. Gah! Stop being crazy! It doesn't help when we shoot you and you aren't even a wolf!
Chad informs the rest of the town of the news. Most are unimpressed. Ungrateful Norwegians....
Nisgeis pops up and votes for Letum. What an opportunist.
Oberon resigns from the army, so he can actually play the game and not just RP like crazy
Penelope_Grey makes one of her big speeches. There will be many more to come...
Town Crier makes his first appearance, and stresses everyone to the breaking point. I blame it all on him!
Aramike runs into the bar, drunk. With the blood of UnderseaLcpl and JCwolf. Hellhounds are scary guys...
Another opportunist! Task Force runs to the bar and votes Letum, then disappears again.
mookiemookie votes for Hitman. His posts are just not inherently funny. Makes my job tough enough...

Letum is lynched, but he argues about it. Make up your mind! Too late, we shot him. And he isn't a werewolf. Woo.

Night 4
Task Force is revealed to be a werewolf, but another one eats him. I was suprised too. No word on who ate him, but I assume that Neal felt bad for the humans and broke the rules to kill a werewolf.
Chad is guarded by A Very Super Market who is in turn guarded by mookiemookie a hellhound attempts to eat them all, but only gets the colonel. Lovely, we've lost more leadership, no matter the actual number of people who listen to him. Which numbers to like, 2 people.
SandyCaesar is out on his boat. Even normal wolves can swim. You know what comes after. Odd how no one on the U-boot notices the guttural screams in Norwegian, or how the watch officers can possibly not see it happen.

Day 5
More drama from the Brits. Hitman is a Spaniard, but he is also a werewolf. Oops, did I spoil the ending already? Sorry. Either way, I miss it all, and can only vote Aramike after everyone does their stuff.
Nisgeis votes for A Very Super Market, which freaks the bejeezus out of me, but changes to Hitman. I'm relieved. Alright, real news.
Hitman (Who's a wolf btw) attempts to lose suspicion by pulling stuff out of his arse. Its very believable, but everyone is pretty sure he is a wolf now. He also votes Jimbuna
Oberon takes a nice walk in the forest and finds Task Force's remains. He doesn't realize that it is a werewolf's remains, but its okay, TF is dead.
Weiss Pinguin hears the news from... some nameless seaman (Neal, how come there are so many random people that don't die?) Sandycaesar is not even named, so I bet his ghost is real happy.
Penelope_Grey suspects Jimbuna. Just another day...
Neal Stevens (AKA Mr. Divine Being) uses his annoying alter-ego of the Town Crier to update the death list. I hate that guy already. We should lynch him, but no one ever does...
Jimbuna rapidly defends himself by accusing everybody else. Then he votes Penelope_Grey. Like that hasn't happened before.
Penelope_Grey makes no huge essay, and votes Hitman. She actually has a very solid reason for doing that, but I didn't know until later. So it was very suspicious. But part of her plan. I'm really not working hard enough in this game.
Weiss Pinguin defendeth me from Nisgeis. I'm fairly certain that Nisgeis is a wolf now, for the painfully strange guardian lynching accusations.
Aramike (Monsieur 'Ell'Ound) votes Hitman, perhaps thinking we just got it wrong again. I dunno, we should ask him.
Hitman reveals himself to be an aristocrat. Weird, I thought he made a post early on about his character being a 1WO. Oh well
Sandycaesar arrive from the grave to make a comment thats actually within context. It mentions Hitman pretending to be a seer on Day 1. Even I missed that.
A Very Super Market votes for Aramike. In hindsight, that was a really bad move, but he doesn't go after me. Phew.

And so, Hitman is shot many times, without dying. Did we have a backup plan? Yes. Silver met heart in a touching encounter, and the evil werewolf fell to the ground. Dead. I didn't need to mention that did I?

Rest of Day 5
Everyone (Well, sorta) is happy that a Werewolf finally died.
Weiss Pinguin attempts to confuse me by "admitting" to have been attacked. My brain melted for a while at that point.
FIREWALL has disappeared for while. Not sure where he is, but he will die soon. He is also a werewolf. Things don't look do good right now...

Night 5
In a significantly shorter description (:P), Oberon and FIREWALL are dead. Nisgeis killed FIREWALL, as well as Task Force, so it really is just bad luck. Better for the humans I guess. Oberon was not a wolf though, and I am saddened by his death. Now no one will fortify the watch tower even further. I can't do anything, my nerves have gone to pieces.

Day 6
Jimbuna is blissfully unaware of FIREWALL being a werewolf. Or maybe he is, and he is RPing well.
A Very Super Market snaps (Finally) and votes for Aramike 8 hours ahead of schedule. I was more than a bit tired that day.
Jimbuna half-accuses me. The nerve! Then he makes a comment about Nokia's name. The rascal! Then he talks with Penelope_Grey in private. That scoundrel! But he isn't a werewolf, so I let it sliiiide.
Weiss Pinguin moseys down over to the bar, and is immediately threatened by Penelope_Grey. With a knife. Presumably, he's terrified. I am too. Weird how XabbaRus is allowed to shoot himself (In a crowded are, no less) but we can't just stab whoever we think is a wolf.
Aramike tries to escape his execution by accusing me. He's wrong on a lot of counts, since I spent more time hiding in my tower than interrogating people.
mookiemookie votes for Aramike. I can't really make fun of his post. :(
Penelope_Grey shows everyone her ambition to become rich and develops her character. To me, it just seems like asking Neal to strike you down for dramatic purposes. Actually, that would be pretty cool.
Nisgeis makes the funniest post in a long time, and I have to quote it
"This is like this game of chess, except you don't know what the pieces are, where they are or how they move, there's also no board and you're wearing boxing gloves. And it's pitch black. And you're dead"
Jimbuna goes outside and farts. I was worrying about him for a while, then I realized that in Brit time, it was 12:00. Understandable. Then he votes Aramike. Hoorays!
Nisgeis votes Aramike. Its a smart choice, since there is no saving him now, but he is still distrusted. He is also technically late. And fashionably late as well. Being a werewolf is tough on your clothes y'know, and Nisgeis knows how to present himself well.

And so, Aramike is strung up, shot a few times, then silver bulleted. A touching monologue is delivered, perhaps ruined only by the lingering stench of Jimbuna's fart. I'm not sure how Aramike went through a whole patrol without going werewolf and killing the U-boot, but maybe he was just too tired to or something.

Night 6
Jimbuna and Penelope_Grey discuss for a while, then retire.
One of the lesser ones (:P) comes to pay a visit. The combined force of the dead guys' ghosts drives him off. On the ground, we HEAR NOTHING, SEE NOTHING, and KNOW NOTHING!!!
Weiss Pinguin writes a post that could be easily misconstrued. OR easily understood! The fiend!
Oh, and no one dies. A shocker, I know. Nisgeis was attacking guardians. I thought it was pretty obvious that mookiemookie and I were undefeatable right now, but experimentation is how progress is made, huh?

Day 7
The posts have decreased quite a bit. Mostly because the most rampant posters had been killed off. Except Jimbuna! Oh, I kid, I kid.
Weiss Pinguin makes himself a target. Thats a really bad thing. What were you thinking mate? He also gets a werewolf on his side. It isn't helping. Later, he votes Penelope_Grey. Good drama, but I worry for him
Penelope_Grey quickly pounces (Werewolf pun!) and votes Weiss Pinguin. Danger zone! Danger zone!
Jimbuna misunderstands my comment on the Town Crier, and accuses him but doesn't vote. Weiss Pinguin, that is. That Town Crier should be lynched though...
Task Force intrudes, and Jimbuna tells him off. The meanie! He still hasn't voted too, so its maddeningly frustrating.
Nisgeis votes Penelope_Grey no idea why he doesn't just kill Pinguin or someone during the night, since he won't have anyone guarding him.
mookiemookie saves Penelope_Grey by voting Weiss Pinguin. Methinks Jimbuna was going to do that 1 minute before the lynching.
Oh, and Jimbuna burns Mrs. Jimbuna's foot. Significant problems will ensue, I believe.
A Very Super Market misses the vote completely. Just as well, since I would have voted Weiss Pinguin, but we still would have won.

And so, the lynching pole lies dejected, saddened by the lack of company it had enjoyed so happily the last 5 days.

Night 7
Nothing happens. Again. BORING ME SO MUCH. I will use this space to point out a typo by Neal, exaberated by his using of large font
"One hour until Night, note now!!"
His exact words, ladies and gentlemen. :P

Day 8
We is all happy from the not dying. Except for me. I spent the night in the tower again. I'm starving. I think I would have died after the game ended.
Town Crier once again crawls from his hole to post up a notice.
Weiss Pinguin votes for me. I hear him. I am displeased. He really isn't making things better for himself by voting to lynch a guardian.
Penelope_Grey vehemently accuses Nisgeis, then changes to Nisgeis. It was a weird occurence.
Jimbuna doesn't vote. Again. The cheat!
mookiemookie votes for Weiss Pinguin. Then he votes Nisgeis. IS THIS INDECISION? Nope, just wanting to end it already.
Jimbuna lives for action, and votes for Weiss Pinguin. This is getting ridiculous.
But A Very Super Market saves the day! I swoop in and vote Nisgeis, ruining the werewolf's plans, as well as Jim's. Mwahaha

And so, Neal scares the pee out of me with the scariest image he has posted yet. Jimbuna is missing. Penelope has locked herself up. I'm still completely off my rocker. Weiss Pinguin and mookiemookie are the only executioners. Luckily, Nisgeis is perfectly resigned to his fate, and goes willingly. Neal's will, most likely. The shots ring out, and everyone is satisfied. It seems that the rest of the village and U-boot have been asleep this whole time, but it undoubtedly wakes them up, and they will be curious to know why 22 of them are dead. And why there is no garrison. Presumably, chaos erupts, and Neal chuckles at what a morbid ending he has written.

And thats it!

Task Force
02-13-09, 10:13 PM
Good Superpost AVSM.:yeah:

Onkel Neal
02-13-09, 10:20 PM
Q
Task Force is revealed to be a werewolf, but another one eats him. I was suprised too. No word on who ate him, but I assume that Neal felt bad for the humans and broke the rules to kill a werewolf.

Absolutely not. It was bound to happen as the total population decreased, the werewolves were more likely to kill one of their own.

Great summary, by the way :yep:

A Very Super Market
02-13-09, 10:28 PM
Thanks, but I thought you posted in the rules that a werewolf's attack would fail if he tried to kill another werewolf?

StdDev
02-13-09, 10:50 PM
Thanks, but I thought you posted in the rules that a werewolf's attack would fail if he tried to kill another werewolf?

I was under the same impression!
... maybe TF was a lesser kind of wolf... a "subwolf" !? :D

Weiss Pinguin
02-13-09, 10:56 PM
Nope, I think he stated that werewolves could kill other werewolves. Or maybe just hellhounds.

Weiss Pinguin wakes up with a hangover
Yay someone noticed :yeah: Also I did actually help carry Lesrae around Vanvikan on day 3, which was quite disgusting.

Task Force
02-13-09, 11:12 PM
Lol, aaahh. I think we lost a peice of him back there.:rotfl:

I believe it was a hellhound that killed me. (I knew I should have attacked someone last night.) But I wanted to try to keep off the radar. but... (should have made a better ending while I was in the forest.)

Hitman
02-14-09, 02:22 AM
I assume that Neal felt bad for the humans and broke the rules to kill a werewolf.


Yes, Neal is actually cheating, he changed the rules :damn:

He said in post #36 of this thread:

The only way to kill a werewolf is by voting to kill someone in the day and he turns out to be a werewolf.


but then he changed that in post #120 to:

If werewolf #1 attacks werewolf #2, then ww#2 is dead.
Bear in mind that werewolves can kill other wolves, if they aren't careful.

I had noticed that but I didn't say anything, else someone would already suspect by then what I really was :arrgh!:


We should have voted lynching Neal, he is the one who is having most fun of all this....now I can understand why God created this world and all of us, it sure is entertaining when you know everything and are just watching and changing the rules to suit your preferences for the end of the story :haha:

Onkel Neal
02-14-09, 02:26 AM
OMG, you are so keelhauled! :har:

The only way to kill a werewolf is by voting to kill someone in the day and he turns out to be a werewolf.


What I wuz saying is: The only way a HUMAN can kill a werewolf is by voting to kill someone in the day and he turns out to be a werewolf.

In any case, the rules as laid out in post #1 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147914)are the rules, if I said anything to the contrary anywhere down the road, that just meant I was confused. :)

The only rules we changed, that I can remember, is the 3 human votes get 1 extra vote, and we noted that. I had no idea how to work that.

You know how many people will come after me if they think I changed the rules? Thanks, I'm dead! :rotfl:

Hitman
02-14-09, 02:51 AM
The only rules we changed, that I can remember, is the 3 human votes get 1 extra vote, and we noted that. I had no idea how to work that.


Ah, see that? So you admit that you changed the rules in the middle of the game? Now where's that Luger with Silver Bullets? Looks like you might also be a .... :stare:

J/j ;)

Jimbuna
02-14-09, 08:12 AM
You know how many people will come after me if they think I changed the rules? Thanks, I'm dead! :rotfl:

ROFLMAO http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img152/9959/rollingaroundlaughingly2.gif

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

Jimbuna
02-14-09, 08:13 AM
Dem typin classes as school paid off.:rotfl:

LOL :DL

Oberon
02-14-09, 10:10 AM
Night Five - Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom

http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/photos/John_Locke_in_coffin.jpg

StdDev
02-14-09, 10:11 AM
OMG, you are so keelhauled! :har:

The only way to kill a werewolf is by voting to kill someone in the day and he turns out to be a werewolf.


What I wuz saying is: The only way a HUMAN can kill a werewolf is by voting to kill someone in the day and he turns out to be a werewolf.

In any case, the rules as laid out in post #1 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147914)are the rules, if I said anything to the contrary anywhere down the road, that just meant I was confused. :)

The only rules we changed, that I can remember, is the 3 human votes get 1 extra vote, and we noted that. I had no idea how to work that.

You know how many people will come after me if they think I changed the rules? Thanks, I'm dead! :rotfl:

And now.....
Another round of "What If"

Neal..
#1 what happens if two werewolfs simultaneously attack each other?
(it could happen!)

#2 what would happen if Superman worked for the NAZIs ? :)

:know:

Onkel Neal
02-14-09, 10:24 AM
#1 what happens if two werewolfs simultaneously attack each other?

I admit, I did not outline that scenraio. They both die, wow, that would change the game fast. Thankfully, that has not happened, but if it does, here we are with the rule.

Also, you asked if a werewolf kills another werewolf, will he know it. The werewolf who is killed will know a werewolf killed him, but the attacking wolf will not, unless I choose to include it in the narrative, as I did with Task Force. That's a random element to keep it from being too easy for the werewolves.

You know, I trained for this kind of thing in marriage, having an answer for any possible question. I guess I'm getting rusty.:doh:

Jimbuna
02-14-09, 11:23 AM
You know, I trained for this kind of thing in marriage, having an answer for any possible question. I guess I'm getting rusty.:doh:

You must have achieved excellent grades on the comedian course as well :) :up:

Takeda Shingen
02-14-09, 12:34 PM
Nuts. It would seem that I always am always at sea when the fun stuff goes down.

Sailor Steve
02-14-09, 05:20 PM
We should have voted lynching Neal, he is the one who is having most fun of all this....now I can understand why God created this world and all of us, it sure is entertaining when you know everything and are just watching and changing the rules to suit your preferences for the end of the story :haha:
Maybe you can't lynch Neal as Neal, since he is indeed The Storyteller, or God in this case. But what I can't understand is why you didn't lynch that Town Cryer, just because he's so annoying with his "You must vote" routine. Or at least tied him up out in the woods as bait for the wolves. That way you could have killed two (or more) birds with one idea.

Great writing from all concerned, by the way. Everybody's musings and arguments are great, but Penny's rants take the cake. Great job PG!:rock:

Task Force
02-14-09, 05:54 PM
Nuts. It would seem that I always am always at sea when the fun stuff goes down.

There might be anouther one. (do like me, read the forums at least once a day) See a title like...

"Subsim Werewolf hunt part II"

Penelope_Grey
02-14-09, 05:58 PM
Penny's rants take the cake. Great job PG!:rock:

LMAO

I'm literally just rehashing stuff I have seen in films! I can't take total credit... though the one where I attack Pinguin with the knife is my favourite mwa ha ha ha. :arrgh!:

Task Force
02-14-09, 06:02 PM
Copy cat.... or should I say wolf.:rotfl:

A Very Super Market
02-14-09, 06:04 PM
If everyone stopped participating, what would Neal do? How are you going to end this thing...?

Penelope_Grey
02-14-09, 06:04 PM
Should I say touche here in reply? Or just, simply bog off?

:rotfl:

Vote now!!

Jimbuna
02-14-09, 08:19 PM
behave yerselfs...this is a resounding success :up:

Weiss Pinguin
02-14-09, 10:35 PM
We should have voted lynching Neal, he is the one who is having most fun of all this....now I can understand why God created this world and all of us, it sure is entertaining when you know everything and are just watching and changing the rules to suit your preferences for the end of the story :haha:
Maybe you can't lynch Neal as Neal, since he is indeed The Storyteller, or God in this case. But what I can't understand is why you didn't lynch that Town Cryer, just because he's so annoying with his "You must vote" routine. Or at least tied him up out in the woods as bait for the wolves. That way you could have killed two (or more) birds with one idea.
I have seriously considered that several times :lol:

Great writing from all concerned, by the way. Everybody's musings and arguments are great, but Penny's rants take the cake. Great job PG!:rock:
Yep, PG's rants are quite epic to read. Even more fun to respond to ;)

Jimbuna
02-15-09, 08:42 AM
We should have voted lynching Neal, he is the one who is having most fun of all this....now I can understand why God created this world and all of us, it sure is entertaining when you know everything and are just watching and changing the rules to suit your preferences for the end of the story :haha:
Maybe you can't lynch Neal as Neal, since he is indeed The Storyteller, or God in this case. But what I can't understand is why you didn't lynch that Town Cryer, just because he's so annoying with his "You must vote" routine. Or at least tied him up out in the woods as bait for the wolves. That way you could have killed two (or more) birds with one idea.
I have seriously considered that several times :lol:

Great writing from all concerned, by the way. Everybody's musings and arguments are great, but Penny's rants take the cake. Great job PG!:rock:
Yep, PG's rants are quite epic to read. Even more fun to respond to ;)

You just carry on enjoying the freebies from the bar counter :DL

SandyCaesar
02-15-09, 09:20 PM
"No one noticed the guttural screams on the boat"?

Hey, I wasn't killed by a werewolf...I was blown up! :DL Kinda surprising how no one noticed I kept on mentioning "signal rockets" and the fact that the ship was ballasted with fish oil...

Oh, and Oberon, my ghost says "sorry" to your ghost for that posthumous letter.:doh:

Weiss Pinguin
02-15-09, 09:21 PM
Well that was close :yeah: Just gotta survive the next 12 hours...

UnderseaLcpl
02-15-09, 09:42 PM
What the hell is this "tie" stuff? That would never have happened on my watch. :DL

A Very Super Market
02-15-09, 09:47 PM
I was having lunch. It's sort of my fault :oops:

UnderseaLcpl
02-15-09, 09:52 PM
I was having lunch. It's sort of my fault :oops:

You're not culpable, there were people who were present and didn't vote. How I miss the days of threatning everyone and "handing out death sentences like confetti" as Jimbuna put it. :DL

A Very Super Market
02-15-09, 09:55 PM
Whoa, how full must your inbox be? The problem with being so active in this game is that you attract so much attention you're basically dead.

Weiss Pinguin
02-15-09, 10:05 PM
I was having lunch. It's sort of my fault :oops:

You're not culpable, there were people who were present and didn't vote. How I miss the days of threatning everyone and "handing out death sentences like confetti" as Jimbuna put it. :DL
Yesh... I think next time we do this we ought to implement a 'Must vote x times or out,' unlesss of course you have a good reason. Like eating lunch. Or entertaining people. (My reason for not voting last night)

Task Force
02-15-09, 10:06 PM
Yea, my PM box climed from 6x to114 in less than 5 days.:yep:

StdDev
02-15-09, 10:07 PM
Penny's rants take the cake. Great job PG!:rock:

LMAO

I'm literally just rehashing stuff I have seen in films! I can't take total credit... though the one where I attack Pinguin with the knife is my favourite mwa ha ha ha. :arrgh!:

Gotta know...
Pen.. if that last lynch vote wasnt a tie.. would you have done the Jimmy Cagney scene from White Heat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjzKiEs_pHI)? :D

Task Force
02-15-09, 10:13 PM
Probably would have done something crazy.

UnderseaLcpl
02-15-09, 10:23 PM
Whoa, how full must your inbox be? The problem with being so active in this game is that you attract so much attention you're basically dead.

I had to keep clearing it out. Over 200 messages, not including sent items. And yes, I thought I was making myself vulnerable, but better me than the other investigators, I thought.

My intent was to make the investigation self-sufficient and capable of replacing losses, but I got overwhelmed by the flood of PMs. I tried to do too much by myself, and didn't maintain our system of checks to weed out moles. I think I've got a better system for next time, though.

At least we managed to identify Aramike, though it cost us two innocents dead. Shame that Letum got shot instead of him the next day. I would have thought that my reports, coupled with the fact that I got hit by two werewolves that night and the fact that he was trying to pass himself off as a seer would have been a dead giveaway.

UnderseaLcpl
02-15-09, 10:25 PM
Yesh... I think next time we do this we ought to implement a 'Must vote x times or out,' unlesss of course you have a good reason. Like eating lunch. Or entertaining people. (My reason for not voting last night)


I don't buy that for a second. You're not entertaining at all. It's the firing squad for you!!!:rotfl:

Weiss Pinguin
02-15-09, 10:35 PM
:rotfl:

You'll never take me alive!

Task Force
02-15-09, 10:36 PM
:rotfl:

You'll never take me alive!

Thats what I said.:haha:

A Very Super Market
02-15-09, 10:44 PM
Well... we didn't. Your werewolf buddies did it for you :rotfl:

Task Force
02-15-09, 10:47 PM
The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread! :yeah:

You are the last person in the kamp.:rotfl:

A Very Super Market
02-15-09, 11:01 PM
It's a lonely life up here in the watch tower... :cry:

SandyCaesar
02-15-09, 11:15 PM
You'll always have our ghosts to keep you company.:yeah:

Prophecy for Mr. A Very Super Market!
WHEN THE GHOST TURNS RED STRIKES TRUE

...oh, oops, hang on...oh, that's right, because he's not a ghost, we can't metagame...ah, damn! ...wait, whaddya mean, wrong thread!?

Onkel Neal
02-15-09, 11:39 PM
It's a lonely life up here in the watch tower... :cry:

Is that why you didn't vote, you did not have a relief? :wah:

I was having lunch. It's sort of my fault :oops:

You're not culpable, there were people who were present and didn't vote. How I miss the days of threatning everyone and "handing out death sentences like confetti" as Jimbuna put it. :DL
Yesh... I think next time we do this we ought to implement a 'Must vote x times or out,' unlesss of course you have a good reason. Like eating lunch. Or entertaining people. (My reason for not voting last night)

Yeah, I understand not voting if real life gets in the way, but everyone has 8 hours in which to do it. As a strategy, not voting, I don't know...may work on some people.

A Very Super Market
02-15-09, 11:44 PM
I was eating IRL, so I guess my character was starving himself. He's better now.

Also, he's scared of going down, but you guys already know that :O:

If I need to vote, but I'm still hiding up there, just pretend that they overhear me yelling out my thoughts from the tower.

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 06:29 AM
Missed voting for the first time last night....scalded Mrs Buna into the bargain :oops:

Could be two deaths during the evening now :DL

Nisgeis
02-16-09, 07:04 AM
Missed voting for the first time last night....scalded Mrs Buna into the bargain :oops:

Oh dear, is she OK now?


Could be two deaths during the evening now :DL

Why two deaths?

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 07:24 AM
Not too bad thanks....looks a lot worse the day after with the blisters and redness.

She'll kill me when she realises we'll now be living on carry outs for a week or so.

I shouldn't imagine the kids will be bothered like. :DL

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 08:45 AM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 10:31 AM
The tension is killing me :stare:

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 10:51 AM
The tension is killing me :stare:

Tis a lot slower than a silver bullet. :DL

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6973/smiley1ue4.gif

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 10:52 AM
On the plus side, I guess we know that the remaiming werewolf is not a hellhound... :hmmm:

A Very Super Market
02-16-09, 10:55 AM
We Are Not Convinced Of Your Antics. Pinguin Is A Wooooooollllllf!

UnderseaLcpl
02-16-09, 12:23 PM
On the plus side, I guess we know that the remaiming werewolf is not a hellhound... :hmmm:

Lycanthropic freudian slip?:DL

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 12:38 PM
On the plus side, I guess we know that the remaiming werewolf is not a hellhound... :hmmm:

How come...pray tell? :hmmm:

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 01:14 PM
Either the hellhound flunked werewolf school and goofed his attack, or alerted the target which forced him to leave, or he's a werewolf and the person he attacked was guarded/is a guardian.

Just how I see it anyways.

UnderseaLcpl
02-16-09, 02:06 PM
Either the hellhound flunked werewolf school and goofed his attack, or alerted the target which forced him to leave, or he's a werewolf and the person he attacked was guarded/is a guardian.

Just how I see it anyways.

Or he's a clever bastard and decided to attack no one, thus reinforcing the belief that the hellhound was dead.
You're lucky I'm dead. I would have had you shot ages ago.:DL

Oberon
02-16-09, 02:20 PM
Either the hellhound flunked werewolf school and goofed his attack, or alerted the target which forced him to leave, or he's a werewolf and the person he attacked was guarded/is a guardian.

Just how I see it anyways.

Or he's a clever bastard and decided to attack no one, thus reinforcing the belief that the hellhound was dead.
You're lucky I'm dead. I would have had you shot ages ago.:DL

Nah, there have been attempts, one last night (frustrated howls) and one before, they just met a guardian protector each time.
I'd say there's one wolf left.:yep:

Raptor1
02-16-09, 02:26 PM
If there is 1 more wolf and a Guardian, I'd say the wolf is kaputt unless the humans accidentally murder their own Guardian/Guardians

UnderseaLcpl
02-16-09, 02:29 PM
Either the hellhound flunked werewolf school and goofed his attack, or alerted the target which forced him to leave, or he's a werewolf and the person he attacked was guarded/is a guardian.

Just how I see it anyways.

Or he's a clever bastard and decided to attack no one, thus reinforcing the belief that the hellhound was dead.
You're lucky I'm dead. I would have had you shot ages ago.:DL

Nah, there have been attempts, one last night (frustrated howls) and one before, they just met a guardian protector each time.
I'd say there's one wolf left.:yep:

I wish I had trusted you more. You would have been a valuable asset.
Still, there's no harm in shooting Pinguin. It eliminates a suspect, sets an example, and saves me from always having to refer to him as Pinguin because my keyboard does not include a character that is in the first part of his name. :DL

Sailor Steve
02-16-09, 02:40 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.

UnderseaLcpl
02-16-09, 02:57 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.
Exactly. More deception. Shoot him!

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 02:57 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D

Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

Schroeder
02-16-09, 02:58 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.
Well, actually it's called sz, but you are right that it is replaced with a double s on machines without a ß-key.

BTW.
@ all who spelled him weib pinguin:
Weib is an outdated German word for woman. ;):haha:

Oberon
02-16-09, 03:15 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D

Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

There was, however, a bit of frustrated howling heard in the woods.

I'd say yes but it failed.

This keeps up the wolf'll die of starvation :haha:

JCWolf
02-16-09, 03:22 PM
I would say that If there are no way of knowing who is
the WW, go for the obviouse....

And the Obviouse for me as i see it, is looking who as cryed all over
the village each time it's voted....


It is my opinion also that the WW is ashore, a creature like that
as to be ahsore, close to is forest and Moon...

I have been thinking and voting myself and to myself since I am out
of this game, and the most obviouse target for me It's Pen, she's allways
trying to escape everything to hard to believe, she is allways saying she's not
a WW, and explaining open in the village square that has been proved that
she's not a WW.... When as been proved that ?

It is a tuff choice , and a seer is the best defence and way to locate the beast...

But my opinion is that the last WW is a Female WW...:woot:

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 03:38 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D

Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

There was, however, a bit of frustrated howling heard in the woods.

I'd say yes but it failed.

This keeps up the wolf'll die of starvation :haha:

:hmmm:

JCWolf
02-16-09, 03:42 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D

Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sduggan/smiley.gif

There was, however, a bit of frustrated howling heard in the woods.

I'd say yes but it failed.

This keeps up the wolf'll die of starvation :haha:



Well acourding the WW Story he haves to attack and heat human flesh in order to be able to return to his own human form, if he doesn't heat human flesh he will
turn permant. into a wolf.....:yep:

Raptor1
02-16-09, 03:49 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D
Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/%7Esduggan/smiley.gif
There was, however, a bit of frustrated howling heard in the woods.
I'd say yes but it failed.

This keeps up the wolf'll die of starvation :haha:


Well acourding the WW Story he haves to attack and heat human flesh in order to be able to return to his own human form, if he doesn't heat human flesh he will
turn permant. into a wolf.....:yep:

Hmm? I thought Werewolves were feral beasts with no mind or judgment, feasting upon the flesh of whoever wanders into the vicinity

Which also begs the question as to why the Werewolves can choose who to attack...

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 04:47 PM
Night 7, no one dies. Vanvikan slated to become a retirement community. :D
Was there an attack last night Neal? :hmmm:

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/%7Esduggan/smiley.gif
There was, however, a bit of frustrated howling heard in the woods.
I'd say yes but it failed.

This keeps up the wolf'll die of starvation :haha:


Well acourding the WW Story he haves to attack and heat human flesh in order to be able to return to his own human form, if he doesn't heat human flesh he will
turn permant. into a wolf.....:yep:

Hmm? I thought Werewolves were feral beasts with no mind or judgment, feasting upon the flesh of whoever wanders into the vicinity

Which also begs the question as to why the Werewolves can choose who to attack...

Crikey!!....and here's me thinking we were just playing a game :o

:DL

Nisgeis
02-16-09, 04:52 PM
You could also ask why there's been a full moon each night. I didn't know about them staying as a wolf if they didn't eat, I just thought it was to do with the full moon.

Penelope_Grey
02-16-09, 04:54 PM
Oh god... Ic an't put into words how frustrating this is!!

In the beginning you lot didn't give a crap who you shot... now though... everybody is umming and ahhing and blaming me!!!

When I know the freaking werewolf is Nisgeis!!!

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 05:10 PM
That's because at the beginning we had lots of fodder to run through and not enough time :O: Now we're down to the most exciting part of the game...

Nisgeis
02-16-09, 05:19 PM
You've done very well throughout the game Penelope, right from the start I had you pegged, as you managed to convince Chad, not only that Contact was a werewolf, but also that it had been Chad's idea. You are a master manipulator, I'll give you that.

Penelope_Grey
02-16-09, 05:19 PM
I know.... its playing hell with my bladder!! :haha:

Sailor Steve
02-16-09, 05:28 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.
Well, actually it's called sz, but you are right that it is replaced with a double s on machines without a ß-key.

BTW.
@ all who spelled him weib pinguin:
Weib is an outdated German word for woman. ;):haha:
'Sz'? Weisz, as in Rachel? Cool, we learn something new every day. Thanks, Schroeder.:sunny:

Jimbuna
02-16-09, 05:57 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.
Well, actually it's called sz, but you are right that it is replaced with a double s on machines without a ß-key.

BTW.
@ all who spelled him weib pinguin:
Weib is an outdated German word for woman. ;):haha:
'Sz'? Weisz, as in Rachel? Cool, we learn something new every day. Thanks, Schroeder.:sunny:

Oh....that's just great. If he/she turns out to be a werewolf :DL

StdDev
02-16-09, 06:03 PM
It's a German 'double-s'. 'Weiss' works just as well in English.
Well, actually it's called sz, but you are right that it is replaced with a double s on machines without a ß-key.

BTW.
@ all who spelled him weib pinguin:
Weib is an outdated German word for woman. ;):haha:
'Sz'? Weisz, as in Rachel? Cool, we learn something new every day. Thanks, Schroeder.:sunny:

Eszett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F) :know:

Schroeder
02-16-09, 06:48 PM
If you write the letters in the way they are pronounced then you will get s= Es and z =Zett.

It is youst how it is pronunced.:know::know:

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 07:12 PM
Actually it would be zee.


ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Wee have no zeds in Amerika, siliee Yooropeeans :-j

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 08:16 PM
Well, it seems I owe you an apology Fräulein Grey.

On the bright side, I survived! :yeah: Do we get anything special for living?

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 08:18 PM
Jimbuna might make you his Executive Officer now, there are plenty of vacancies on U-13 :DL

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 08:26 PM
I'll finish my post mortem and behind the scenes soon, until then, here is the original random order roster.


Random order --- ID --- Rank
19. JCWolf --- Guardian --- Gemeiner
18. lesrae --- Guardian --- Shepperd
20. Contact --- Guardian --- Mayor
21. mookiemookie --- Guardian --- Postman
26. Aramike --- Hellhound --- Seaman
3. A Very Super Market --- Human --- Gemeiner
6. Oberon --- Human --- Gefreiter
7. Chad --- Human --- Oberst
8. UnderseaLcpl --- Human --- Oberfeldwebel
9. Letum --- Human --- Gemeiner
10. Laufen zum Ziel --- Human --- Gemeiner
11. stabiz --- Human --- Gefreiter
4. XabbaRus --- Human --- Sailor
5. Weiß Pinguin --- Human --- Wachoffizier
12. Jimbuna --- Human --- Kapitänleutnant
13. Raptor1 --- Human --- Chief Engineer
14. Fincuan --- Human --- Oberfähnrich zur See
1. Penelope_Grey --- Human --- Barmaid
2. SandyCaesar --- Human --- Fisherman
15. NealT --- Human --- Fisherman
17. Gorduz --- Seer --- Funker
16. Nokia --- Seer --- Innskeeper
24. Hitman --- Werewolf --- Hauptmann
22. Nisgeis --- Werewolf --- Leutnant zur See
23. Task Force --- Werewolf --- Seaman
25. Firewall --- Werewolf --- Seaman

Weiss Pinguin
02-16-09, 08:59 PM
Firewall was a werewolf too? So two wolves were cannibalized then... lol, and the first person I voted to kill was one of our seers :oops:

baggygreen
02-16-09, 09:07 PM
A very enjoyable game to watch!

A Very Super Market
02-16-09, 09:14 PM
Oh, I suspected FIREWALL for quite a while. And I was made into a guardian because lesrae dropped out.

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 09:38 PM
Here are, according to my notes, the Night Actions:
http://www.subsim.com/1_12werewolves.htm

As you can see, things were going well for the forces of evil, until they lynched Aramike, and then Nisgeis took out two of his own werewolves :haha:

SandyCaesar
02-16-09, 10:01 PM
Quick comments:

Ouch! It seems that Nisgeis was very, very unlucky. Three valid kills, then two friendly-fire kills, and after that all of his attempts were on guardians.:damn:

As untrue as it might be, I'll always think of the night of my death (Night 4) as the turning point. The wolves suffer their first KIA, and then a whole flood of deaths after that.

And it seems U-13 has a cursed crew: aside from Hitman, all of the wolves were from its roster.:o

UnderseaLcpl
02-16-09, 10:13 PM
Hell's yeah! The investigation's first real suspect was Aramike.

Chad
02-16-09, 10:25 PM
Wow, that was a very fun experience, my first text based RPG too :DL


I have to admit at the beginning, and I'm sure Undersealcpl can attest to this, I was very nervous about screwing up and ruining your guys' playability.

Onkel Neal
02-16-09, 11:27 PM
You guys did great. :yep: The main thing was to have fun.

Subsim Werewolf Hunt – Behind the scenes

Assigning secret identities and ranks
When I started the Subsim Werewolf Hunt, I was hoping to attract at least 20 people. Very quickly 26 people signed on. I wanted to make my involvement in the game as neutral and unbiased as possible, even though there was no one to really audit me. So, in my view it was crucial that the players drew their identities and ranks without any input from me.

I made a column in a spreadsheet and recorded all the secret IDs, in alphabetical order:
http://www.subsim.com/werewolf/1_12we1.jpg



I took all the names of the players in a column, in alphabetical order, and ran them through this random list generator. (http://random.org/lists/) Then I paired the column of names in their random order with the column of secret IDs:
http://www.subsim.com/werewolf/1_12we2.jpg




I then did the same with the ranks—entered them in ABC order in the randomizer and then attached them to the final column:
http://www.subsim.com/werewolf/1_12we3.jpg


And we were ready to go! I did not make any changes, for example, to make Jimbuna the U-boat commander, or Hitman a werewolf, it just turned out that way with the random list generator. The only change I manually made to the list was to assign Penelope the rank of barmaid. Nothing sexist, I assure you, I just thought it would be fun putting a lady in charge of the beer!

Balancing the werewolves vs humans
In the game design, I chose to have 4 werewolves and one hell hound. There were 26 players in total, so wolves made up 19% of the hunt. The werewolf/mafia guidelines I read suggested 4:1 humans to werewolves, so this was actually a little better for the humans with the wolves being outnumbered 5.2:1.

However, the Subsim players, not being active RP people, were reluctant to discuss who to lynch, or if they did it, they did it behind the scenes in PMs, and there was very little discussion in the story to analyze. I brought this up several times in the Q&A thread, we were learning as we go. The lynch votes went to humans the first four times. That could happen by pure chance, of course; in any case, it was disastrous for the human cause.

Naturally, if the humans had lynched a wolf right out of the gate, and if in the first night phase a wolf had attacked another wolf, we would have been down to two werewolves and a hellhound, and if the human had gone on to win, the wolves would have complained that with a ratio of 5.2:1 they never had a chance. The losing side always feels they had the odds against them, and a few human players complained to me in PM that the deck was stacked against them.


Trust me!
The core mechanic of the whole game is trying to determine who to trust. It allows a lot of interesting tactics. Acting shy, or humble to gain trust. Sending out false signals i.e., “RunnerJoe told me he was a werewolf in a PM, he thought I was a werewolf” when none of that occurred. I was told some players sent screenshots of their PM from me assigning their secret IDs! Like that wouldn't be easy to fake, lol. It is really a fascinating exercise to watch. It’s a game, of course, so the deceptions are part of the fun.

The game started off with some outstanding roleplaying! Subsim people are very witty, imaginitive, and funny as hell. I’m always impressed by their comments. Letum posted a really funny Investigative Report to Chad (someone post the link, I cannot find it). There were a lot of great jokes and witty remarks in the story. Task Force gave me the best laugh of the hunt:

Goes up on u 13s bridge.

"whats all that noise."

Letum woke up.

Oah. (gets revolver with silver bullets.)

People really got into their characters and fleshed out the story. The basic premise never varied. There were some werewolves among us, we don’t know who they are, so we have to talk and study each other’s comments, then do the mob thing and lynch one, hoping to get a werewolf.

There were three natural groups in the story (villagers, Kamp guards, U-13 men), with werewolves, guardians, and seers randomly sprinkled in among them. This added an extra layer of complexity to the game, but in reality, it made absolutely no difference. If you were a Seaman on U-13 and your fellow seaman was suspicious, you should vote to lynch him and lobby like hell to get the other players, no matter what group, to go along with you. I knew that some players would trip up and get so immersed in the roleplaying that they would hesitate to accuse another within their group. That was awesome to watch! If you make a competition easy, then everyone excels. Make it tricky and rigorous and only the cream of the crop will rise up.


Right off the bat, the werewolves attacked three people (one WW was a no show, never PMed me, and one “passed”…whatever). One werewolf attacked Penelope, who was protected by Guardian Lesrae (it would be the only action he took in the game before going MIA), so Penelope lived. I PMed her that “she discovered some coarse black fur at her window”, a little hint that she had been threatened.

The other wolf, Nisgeis, took out Raptor1. Aramike the Hell Hound attacked Letum. In one of the very few manual game decisions I made, I opted to leave Letum “in a coma”. This way, he could not vote on the lynchings, but he was a neat storyline. By having him gouged and injured, it left a lot of doubt in the other players’ mind; was he an innocent comrade who needed their help, or would he become a werewolf and slaughter them? When he awoke, would he be able to tell people what he had seen? Nice! I noted that his survival was conditional on getting a blood transfusion and PMed UnderseaCpl advising him to ask for volunteers. (Another twist could have been: could a blood donor possibly get infected by giving a blood transfusion? Who knows?). Wow, UnderseaLcpl broadcasted the need for Type A- blood several times but no one picked up on it. Were they all the wrong blood type, or were they too busy sending each other PMs?

Ha ha, finally, Weiß Pinguin volunteered to give the blood and Letum was able to continue. I PMed Letum he would awaken after the next lynching and told him he could play it any way he chose (I wanted a little mystery for myself!). So he woke up and played it crazy, chewing up the scenery in a way that would have made Shatner blush, and promptly got himself shot, thus extinguishing a great source of story potential. It was like a bus packed full of nubile teenage girls headed to Crystal Lake and Jason steps into the road and they flatten him like a overripe pumpkin. Alas.

I put a lot of careful thought into the narratives I wrote. How to include scenarios with the players, yet not give any clues or false impressions that would give away anyone’s true identity (although on Night 4, I pretty much spelled out that SuperMartket and mookies were guardians; by that point in the story, it made little difference).

Feb. 10, 1945 03:25

“What the hell? Gefreiter stabiz jumped with surprise. “You nearly scared me out of my wits, zum Ziel. What are you doing down there?”
Gemeiner Laufen zum Ziel looked up at his comrade in the well-armed east guard tower. “Hauptmann Hitman has ordered increased foot patrols. I have been down here for nearly an hour, did you just now hear me? You crazy bastard, you better not be sleeping up there.”
“I’m not sleeping,”said stabiz with less convition than zum Ziel would have hoped for. "I'm giving JCWolf a break, his eyes were nearly shut."
“All the same, if you hear me shouting, throw down that rope lapper, I’m coming up, you hear?”
“Ja, ja.”
“Where did all these damned sheep come from?” asked zum Ziel. Every time I turn around one of these little ****ers is bumping into me. Shine that seachbeam down here.”
“It’s not operational. Oberst Chad gave an order to have it repaired but apparently no one did it. Did you bring any fresh coffee? I’m out,” stabiz shouted down.
“Nein,” said zum Ziel glumly. I gave my last pouch and 10 liters of diesel to NealT, in exchange for some fresh haddock and a Swedish girlie magazine.”
“Damn, I could use some coffee now, I haven’t had much sleep since this ordeal began,” groused stabiz.
“Who has? But don’t worry, friend, I am meeting some of the U-13 crew and will swap some of Oberst Chad’s brandy for some real Brazilian coffee.”
“That’s quite a black market you have going there, ha ha,” said stabiz.
“Right, you just stay on your toes and don’t shoot them, ok? Only shoot the seven foot tall hairy bastard Xabba keeps babbling about.”


I established the fact that there was a lot of inter-group liaisons and smuggling, that there were sheep all over (lesrae the Sheppard’s sheep), and that stabiz was not likely to be a witness to zum Ziel’s demise although he was at the scene.

03:40

There was no solace to be found, not even on the black waters of the fjord. Waves lapped gently at the side of the small boat rowed by two men.
“Ok, can you see anything?”
“Nein, and keep your voice down, Oberfähnrich zur See Fincuan. The old man has sharp ears, I would not be surprised if he is sitting on the pier with a rifle. He did not come back to the boat tonight,” said Leutnant zur See Nisgeis.
“Aye, sir,” replied Fincuan in a whisper. “I don’t know if this was such a good idea, we have orders to guard the boat.”
“We are guarding the boat, it’s just behind us. Think of this as a patrol. Shoot anything in the water, and maybe you’ll get lucky and hit a cruiser.”
“Ja, I suppose. I’m not sure which worries me more, the creature that is killing everyone on shore, or Kapt. Jimbuna if he finds out we’re picking up stolen liquor from Obert Chad’s storeroom.”
“Well, we’re U-bootmenn, we cannot survive without alcohol.” They both laughed under their breath.
“Ok, I see it, I see the wharf. I see the light by the pumping station,” said Nisgeis. “Steer for the big diesel tank, mate.”

With dawn came the dreaded sirens, breaking everyone’s sleep. The men and villagers raced to the source, the familiar killing ground behind the fuel depot. Stabiz, white with shock, switched off his siren and slumped in the guard tower, pointing below with his trembling rifle. Pieces of flesh, bone, uniform, and hair were strewn across the slab and splashed across the machinery.
“It’s Gemeiner Laufen zum Ziel... and Oberfähnrich zur See Fincuan,” said Gemeiner Super Market.
The carnage was unlike any of the soldiers had ever seen. It was…well, unnatural.


Odd, none of the players seemed to notice that Nisgeis, who was in the boat with Fincuan, was not hurt and never spoke up about what had happened. Sure, the other players were not present as characters in the boat, but that should not have stopped them from questioning him in the lynch debates. Perhaps it was because of Nisgeis’ skill in crafting very convincing diary entries in his posts.… he was very clever, I would be wary of playing in a game with him.

Some people asked me if “so and so” in the narrative did this or that, did that mean he was/was not a werewolf? Players would be correct to depend on their own conjecture over any details in the narrative. As you can imagine, to have a decent narrative, I needed to impose on the players and have them appear in places and say things that add to the story, support the mystery, and increase the intrigue, without directly giving away their true identity. So, I may have three guys discussing a strategy to discover the werewolf, when in reality, one of them may be a werewolf. Or I may have a character say he protected another player, when he may or may not be a Guardian. Players may say these things and assume these postures in their own posts, so they could be written into the narrative the same way.

Lesrae was a special case. On the 2nd day, he PMed me and said he has some real life issues that meant he would not be able to play. Since Lesrae was a Guardian, I felt that losing him so early in the game would possibly cause balance problems so I wrote into the narrative when Gorduz (another guardian) was lynched, a small talisman fell from his pocket:

The firing squad took aim and in a blast, ended his life. A small object, apparently dislodged by the bullets, falls from his breast pocket. Nokia the Innkeep walks over and picks it up.
“It is a small silver talisman…does anyone know what to make of this?” he asks.
“Aye,” says mookiemookie, the postman and new head of the village. “I would say that is a Guardian piece, and look, it has your name scrawled on it, Nokia.”
The color drained from Nokia’s face. In disgust, he threw the tiny silver piece as far as he could. The crowd look around; at the mortal man dead at the post, at each other, at the woods, and finally, at the ominous darkening sky.

I waited for someone to “find and retrieve the talisman.” When that didn’t happen, I picked a human from random: Super Market. I PMed him that he had picked up the talisman and would now serve as a Guardian.

Now I had the question about how to erase Lesrae’s character from the game. Since his character was in the game when it began, I made the narrative decision to have him disappear mysteriously. I had his sheep milling around and finally someone noticed and mentioned it. I decided that he had been shot by another player with a silver bullet, even though he was not a werewolf (but I would not tell the players this) and his body thrown down the town well. I mean, the well was clearly marked on the map, yeah? Someone would surely investigate it, along with the other landmarks. If not, ok, then his disappearance would be an unsolved mystery. Oberon, a most clever player, was writing some dialogue about peering down the old well. So I PMed him and told him he found "Lesrae's body and there was a single bullet hole in the chest. The bullet was silver."

The bullet wouldn’t stay there long. Underseacpl removed the bullet in the autopsy (a normal thing to do in a world where there are no werewolves, I suppose). I did not direct him to do this, and JCWolf was warning him not to in the story, but I thought it was great. It introduced more uncertainty. What to do with Lesrae’s body. Would it reanimate as a werewolf now that the silver bullet had been removed? Was he ever a werewolf to begin with? Who shot him? I knew who I was going to script as his assassin: NealT, who was always carrying on about his old gun and silver bullets (actually, everyone had invented silver bullets in the story, I could take my pick!). Then someone wrote that Lesrae’s body was gone. Fabulous! Who took it? Human or werewolf? Or did it get up and lope off on its own. Unfortunately, at this point some players were getting confused and frustrated. Lesrae’s dead? What? What happened? Where’d he go? I don’t understand, someone explain this to me. So I dropped the idea of following this story line.

The guys who play the wolves PMed me their choice person to attack each night. The guardians and seers also PM me each night to with their choice of who to protect and investigate. I used these actions to create the results in my narrative. With the exception of Letum’s coma, all of the actions in the narratives were the results of choices made by the players.

Once I got the PMs, I fit the results into the narrative. For example, on night 4 Task Force (WW) opted not to attack anyone, he said he thought he should "lay low"...not sure how he thinks that will help him but ok. Guardian Super Market PMed me he was going to protect Chad (human) and guardian mookie PMed me he was going to protect Super Market. Then the hellhound attacked Chad, so normally that would kill Chad and Supermarket, but with 2 guardians on that, I figured Super Market would survive.

Nisgeis attacked Task Force (obviously he was unaware that TF was a WW), so TF had to die, and I wrote it into the story that way. Later he wiped out Firewall too. That was the turning point for the humans

JCWolf was writing some really weird stuff, I wasn’t sure where he was going with it. I think some of the players thought he was making himself a target for the wolves, so he was either a guardian, or a wolf himself. I was beginning to think he was a wolf myself, I had to keep checking the roster. Of course, he was a guardian and invulnerable to all except the hell hound…and lynchings, but no one seem to pay any attention to him until near the end. He was right on the money about NOT removing the silver bullet from Lesrae’s body. Anyone familiar with werewolf movies knows that’s a bad idea.

Aramike was a genius. I don’t know how, but somehow he conned a guardian into protecting a player on his recommendation—then Aramike, the hell hound, took them both out! When he PMed me his choice for night 4, he said he was afraid people were on to him. I thought, hell, he’s the most dangerous guy in the game and he’s like the invisible man.

Jimbuna was a very loyal U-boat captain. “.....let me ask but a few questions here. Who has stood by his men from the outset whilst everyone else was felt in the relative comfort zone over the early days seeing the U-boat crew crew being picked off one by one? Remember.....the first three victims were my crewmen.” Yeah, but four of the werewolves also just happened to be from you crew! Oh, wait, you had no way of knowing that. Jim was cagey and managed to have the last seven players doing his bidding, without putting himself out there by voting. In fact, Jim was skipping the voting process or waiting till the last minute to commit himself, and he got away with it. Watch this guy!

Penelope seemed determine to take control of the game and win it for the humans, and she pretty much did. Right at the end, all the posturing and head games was almost too much for her, but she hung on to survive. I loved the way she started the rumor that the mayor's election was rigged; plus she put Jimbuna's booger fantasy into a dream sequence and wrenched the story back on track. Oh, BTW, did anyone catch that I inserted a big chunk of a Churchill speech into one of Penelope's speeches in one of the narratives? ;)

Weiss Pinguin was very cool and stayed under the radar until the end. He got caught in a vise between Penelope and Nisgeis and almost got lynched on Day 7.

Mookie was another stealth player, he managed to get through the entire hunt without a single lynch vote! And he voted in every lynch poll, usually early. I think this guy has done this before.

Nisgeis was a one man wrecking crew in the beginning, killing the first casualty in the game, Raptor1, and going on to score kills against Laufen zum Ziel and stabiz. Then his luck ran out and he friendly fired Task Force and Firewall, and then stubbed his toe against Guardians Mookie and Super Market.

Chad, UnderseaCpl, and Hitman all did a marvelous job in their roles. Hitman is such a respectable guy, it seemed hard for the other players to imagine him as a werewolf. Undersea wonderfully attended to the comatose Letum and did a lot (for me) to keep the story moving along.

Oberon was very ingenius and took a lot of pride and initiative with his character. You may notice in the story, he posted he found some Aconitum flowers and used them to check if Penelope was a werewolf !

Aconitum flowers, also known as wolfsbane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum)
"The wolfsbane flower was used to identify supposed werewolves. If the flower cast a yellow shadow on the suspected shape-shifter's chin, the werewolf test was positive."


He PMed me with this bit:
Quote:

Oberon has just presented Fraulein Grey with a bunch of Aconitum flowers he found outside the school. Aconitum also goes by the name Wolfsbane and was supposedly used to identify werewolves, the test is if the shadow of the flower on the persons chin is yellow, then that person is a werewolf.



He came up with this on his on. Fair enough, good initiative without breaking the story, so I gave him a bonus point; I replied: "Her chin is not yellow."


In the end, I was afraid the game was going to go into a stall. With only 6 players, the number of posts naturally was much fewer than when we started with 26. I worried that smaller number of posts would give the appearance that the game was getting stale, but the surviving Five managed to pull it together and lynch the last werewolf! :salute:

Well, I tried to cover everything I could think of with this recap, and I'm open to any specific questions. Maybe after a few weeks, we can orgainize another game like this!

Neal

mookiemookie
02-16-09, 11:54 PM
Mookie was another stealth player, he managed to get through the entire hunt without a single lynch vote! And he voted in every lynch poll, usually early. I think this guy has done this before.

:cool: I want to help run the next one.

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 12:01 AM
Aww, but helping run things would leave you out of the game...

baggygreen
02-17-09, 12:11 AM
Thats ok, I'll take his spot :salute:

Weiss Pinguin
02-17-09, 12:26 AM
The firing squad took aim and in a blast, ended his life. A small object, apparently dislodged by the bullets, falls from his breast pocket. Nokia the Innkeep walks over and picks it up.
“It is a small silver talisman…does anyone know what to make of this?” he asks.
“Aye,” says mookiemookie, the postman and new head of the village. “I would say that is a Guardian piece, and look, it has your name scrawled on it, Nokia.”
The color drained from Nokia’s face. In disgust, he threw the tiny silver piece as far as he could. The crowd look around; at the mortal man dead at the post, at each other, at the woods, and finally, at the ominous darkening sky.

I waited for someone to “find and retrieve the talisman.” When that didn’t happen, I picked a human from random: Super Market. I PMed him that he had picked up the talisman and would now serve as a Guardian.
WAT

You mean I could have picked that up and become a guardian?! :o Darn, how cool would it have been to actually be able to do something besides gossip...

I envy you, Super market!

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 12:33 AM
Hee hee, I was also a seer for one night as well. Neal got confuzzled and thought I was checking UnderseaLcpl. The only reason I actually trusted him, since I was trying to be a loner as long as possible.

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 12:39 AM
Aramike was a genius. I don’t know how, but somehow he conned a guardian into protecting a player on his recommendation—then Aramike, the hell hound, took them both out! When he PMed me his choice for night 4, he said he was afraid people were on to him. I thought, hell, he’s the most dangerous guy in the game and he’s like the invisible man.

Aramike was an obvious ****ing traitor and I had him figured from the moment Gorduz died.:DL
Why on earth it took two more days to lynch him is utterly beyond my thought capacity. Imo, it is not wise for a werewolf to try to pass himself off as a seer in the face of an organized investigative effort.

That being said, Aramike is very smart. Somehow, he knew(or appeared to know) that I was the leader of the investigation, despite my telling him that I was only carrying out my superiors' orders when I questioned him. Either I am a poor liar, or Aramike is very perceptive, or both.

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The Investigation

Originally envisioned as "The Inquisition" I decided to abandon that name in order to avoid the negative connotations it might generate. It consisted of the members of Kamp Letze Jagd's garrison, with the exception of stabiz. JCwolf kind of faded out of it, too.

The goal was to create solid block of votes that, when combined with various methods of persuading the others, could offer a guaranteed death sentence to any who resisted, thus giving the investigation a free hand in enlisting supporters and persecuting traitors.
Needless to say, it didn't work as well as I had hoped. I was completely unable to cope with the flood of PMs, and was only able to maintain marginal control over the effort. Hitman completely escaped my notice and likely would have killed many more had I remained alive.

Our star pupil was A Very Super Market, who managed to survive the game and directly contributed to the death of Aramike (finally).

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Neal's narratives and directives

To be totally honest, I usually disregarded anything Neal said completely.
As soon as he began to hint that Letum might be a werewolf, I just stopped listening. I was under the impression that he was trying to "rock the boat" so to speak.
Letum was already obviously suspicious, because he survived a werewolf attack and then Neal emphasized the possibility by giving Letum a script that would imply that he was a werewolf. Automatic disqualification in my eyes. Why ruin your own game?
Then he told me that maybe Weiss Pinguin was a werewolf because of Letum's reaction to the blood transfusion, which was also scripted. Another auto-disqual of Letum as a suspect.
That being said, I would have had Pinguin shot anyway. He was just a tad too eager to avoid the attention of the investigation. :DL


There's my story, let's hear some others.

Aramike
02-17-09, 01:01 AM
Aramike was a genius. I don’t know how, but somehow he conned a guardian into protecting a player on his recommendation—then Aramike, the hell hound, took them both out! When he PMed me his choice for night 4, he said he was afraid people were on to him. I thought, hell, he’s the most dangerous guy in the game and he’s like the invisible man.Aramike was an obvious ****ing traitor and I had him figured from the moment Gorduz died.:DL
Why on earth it took two more days to lynch him is utterly beyond my thought capacity. Imo, it is not wise for a werewolf to try to pass himself off as a seer in the face of an organized investigative effort. Ah, yes ... my finest hour. Got Gorduz lynched due to my prodding then I killed Undersea and JCWolf.

And that was a very HASTILY arranged plan B.

Originally, I posted a very cryptic nothing just to see what kind of attention it would grab. Chad first responded, and he made a juicy target. My goal was to make him believe I heard rumors that he was the next target in the hopes that he'd identified a guardian and would compel attention.

Then, Undersea got involved. He made me change my stance from "hearing rumors" to "being damned sure". All of a sudden I had a problem on my hands. Upon Gorduz's death it would be known that I wasn't "seeing" anything.

Luckily, I'd be able to kill 2 of those who'd vote to lynch me right off the bat.

I had hoped to gather information on wolf suspects and guardians in my conversations, but there was nothing. I never intended to fake being a Seer, but Undersea forced my hand. I tried to blame it on him not allowing me to take a day to actually "See", and it worked for a little while.

In the end, my ultimate plan failed. I was hoping to have identified another wolf by then and coordinate our efforts. Undersea had a coordinated thing going (but not effective enough, as I was able to instantaneously divert their attention based solely on my word) and I was concerned about that. If I could have only found another wolf, I would have been able to rip that organized effort apart easily. Also, had I been more patient, I could have let the humans lynch off a few more of their own before I made my move. The risk I saw there was it would be a lot easier to be a suspect the less players there were.

Truthfully, if Undersea hadn't gotten involved, I probably would have gotten Chad + 1 that night and would have quietly begun the lynching process against Gorduz. I probably would have gotten away with it and may have been able to get Undersea + 1 the next turn. My goal was to try to kill 2 humans per night. I think it would have been easy to do so (and ultimately win the game for the wolves) had I just positively identified 1 other wolf.

Finally, I'll never know for sure but I bet I could have talked my way out of the lynching I got on Valentine's Day if I had some time away from the wife to actually try. :wah:

PS: I was totally caught off-guard by Letum surviving my attack. I had no idea what to make of that.

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 01:08 AM
I don't think you could have. I was completely convinced of your hellhoundness, through process of elimination (Chad was the final piece) I just didn't want to attract your attention until others got suspicious enough. So I tried to open up links with people in a non-threatening and purposefully unclear fashion. I guess it worked, since the only people to respond were humans.

SandyCaesar
02-17-09, 01:09 AM
Yeah, the remaining humans were amazing, after the initial spate of wolf deaths. Then, they seemed to home in on Nisgeis without losing a single person. True, they also had two guardians, but zero losses meant that they were pretty awesome in my eyes.:up:

My biggest problem was my own personal time constraints: 0000hrs to 1530hrs, zero computer activity. Sleep and school.:damn:

The Inquisition, as UnderseaLcpl said...that actually worried me more than the wolves, seeing that that early in the game the wolves pretty much struck at random, and if I were hit then tough luck. Between the investigatory committee and myself, we exchanged a couple of PMs that apparently ended with myself being "exonerated".:doh: I suspect my constant stream of questions in the Q&A thread generated some attention. I'd quickly made up my mind that while the investigation in whole might be a good-faith effort, the risk was very high that individual werewolves might have had it penetrated. (UnderseaLcpl's suspicions about a werewolf conspiracy I found difficult to believe; I just couldn't believe that the wolves could discover each other and then cooperate effectively that early in the game.) It was bad luck that both of the Seers were KIA in the first two days; my hope was that they would individually build their own circles of who to trust, since they were the only ones who could tell for certain. I doubt I was popular with that group, though, having all but accused both Hitman and Oberon. (50% accuracy ain't too bad...right?)

The other high point for me was when I blew up my own boat, with Neal's permission.:arrgh!: I was hoping that the blast might injure one of the wolves, or--even better--leave the attacker with identifiable burns, which would be a death sentence once anyone notices. Oberon picked up on that (:up:), but it seems that Hitman was killed the day after, before the thought occurred to anyone.

Beyond that, I regret not being to participate more, but it was fun for what it was worth, causing quite a bit tension for me. Well done, Subsimmers!:sunny:

Aramike
02-17-09, 01:18 AM
Oh, and this had me laughing my ass off... (referring to Letum)So he woke up and played it crazy, chewing up the scenery in a way that would have made Shatner blush, and promptly got himself shot, thus extinguishing a great source of story potential. :rotfl:

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 01:27 AM
If I wasn't posting so much, I could finish that super-post on page 5.

The remaining humans had a huge advantage, what with Nisgeis killing his own teammates and all. And the Guardians. We knew for sure that there were at least 4 humans, and 2 were guardians. As long there wasn't a hellhound left, we were safe (But I didn't tell anyone about Aramike)

To be honest, the investigation flunked when Hitman was involved. It would have been better had he not known all the secrets. Perhaps it was just an RPing choice, with hime being an officer and all. Anyways, I was certain that UnderseaLcpl was a human, but not of Chad or Hitman. But then UnderseaLcpl died, and Chad seemed like the only one with any information and I tried to protect him as long as possible. It didn't go too well, since he didn't really have anything.

I never did trust Hitman, but he didn't get any info on me, as far as I know.

FIREWALL, it seemed at first that Penelope was a werewolf and trying to shift the blame on him. He ended up looking a bit suspicious, but not with any certainty, but it didn't matter since he went AWOL and didn't kill anyone.

Penelope was very suspicious at first. The theatrics were well-thought-out, but seemed like it was trying to avoid the subject. Kinda wrong there. Anyways, I didn't have any real evidence on her, and she ended up taking control of the game at the end, and seemed to have all the werewolves figured out, so suspicions were lifted.

mookiemookie flew under the radar for a while. I barely noticed him until the Chad incident. What I do want to know is why he protected me in the first place.

Laufen zum Ziel started out the game really, since he was the only one to accuse anybody at first. Shame he died so early, he seemed like he had his stuff.

Yes, the seers had a really bad game. Nokia did get a werewolf, but he died early.

Task Force was a tricky one. He had so many posts I thought he was just RPing the heck out of the game. He also went after me on Night 2. Why?

JCwolf was... kinda creepy. I sort of thought he was a werewolf, but sorta didn't, because it seemed too obvious. Then I thought he was trying some reverse-psychology. Scared the hell out of me.

That's all for now.

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 01:36 AM
@ Aramike :salute: I knew you were a clever bastard. I should have had you interrogated and shot before anyone else. Should we play this game again, you'll be the first to die:O:

@ A Very Super Market

I have yet to recieve an answer as to how in the hell Aramike survived the day after I was killed. I told you that Chad was trustworthy, did you not trust me?
&^%#^%#*$^*)&^%)&# we could have got that sorry $*&^%*(&^%
Seriously, what the hell happened to get Letum lynched instead?
Still, you did an amazing job. Absolutely amazing. You did the rest of us proud.


@SandyCaesar

I threatened pretty much everyone I questioned with immediate death. It was just a way to force them into saying something that would either be credible or work against you later. A lot of cross-interrogation was taking place on my end. In truth, you were never a suspect, though I did consider you as a possible recruit for the investigation, before my untimely death.
There were no informers, and you were never suspect.


@ All

I have learned a bit from this experience. Next time, my investigation will not be a phantom threat, but a real force to be reckoned with. So beware, future werewolves:DL

SandyCaesar
02-17-09, 01:49 AM
I take it that Aramike did most of his maneuvers behind the scenes, then? I never got a single hint that he was a hellhound. BTW, how did you manage to convince everyone to hit Gorduz? For that matter, how did you know to target him? Must've been some first-class action on your part.

Hitman...I curse myself for missing him, his first "seer" call on Contact should've directed me to him immediately. I pointed this out to the committee, but as Hitman was on it I didn't get anything done...and by the time I got my "posthumous letter" out, it was too late.

As for the rest, I never suspected them. Although, I can see how not attacking all the time can psychologically screw everyone up: for most of the time, I thought there were only three wolves. It was a nasty shock to discover a total of five.

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 02:00 AM
Hmm... the way I think it is, it really is better to be a seer when you start these inquisitions. You didn't know about Hitman did you? :O:

As I remember, no one except for Oberon voted for Aramike on Letum's execution day. So I decided not to make myself a target. No use anyways, it wasn't like anyone would believe me.

And I eventually did trust Chad, though it was the colonel's underling that betrayed us. I was guarding him that night. You also told me to trust Hitman, I think. Can't find the PM yet.

I suspected Aramike to be a werewolf on the night UnderseaLcpl died, but I also guessed that JCwolf was guarding him, so I decided to guard Chad instead. Better choice. Then when both of you died, I assumed that Aramike was the hellhound.

Sandycaesar, maybe you just weren't too deep into this, but the investigation had basically all the Heer personnel in it. That was where our votes came from.

And the five wolves was a definite suprise for me. That meant that even if we lynched one a day, they could still win the game.

BTW Neal, what would you have written if the wolves had won? And not the Grey Wolves :O:

Aramike
02-17-09, 02:01 AM
I take it that Aramike did most of his maneuvers behind the scenes, then? I never got a single hint that he was a hellhound. BTW, how did you manage to convince everyone to hit Gorduz? For that matter, how did you know to target him? Must've been some first-class action on your part.Yeah, it was pretty much all behind-the-scenes. However, I tried to not initiate contact with anyone who'd be able to organize against me. My thought was that, if I kept myself publically cryptic, the key players would come to me.

I guess I figured that behaviors were better signs of the truth than words. Thusly, I did my best to solicit behaviors (which manifest themselves as words but you know what I mean).

As for Gorduz, frankly after Undersea got involved I was kind of hoping that he would "lose" the lynch vote. Ultimately, though, I was forced to stake my reputation on it - a move which I would have to backtrack from.

The reason I chose him was simple: he was quiet enough that he wouldn't make a big stink about it. The way I originally saw it, if I could indirectly manipulate him into getting lynched and he was indeed a human, score. If he happened to turn out to be a werewolf, then - quite frankly - double score.

Think about it: I was the Hellhound. If I could just stumble upon getting ONE werewolf killed by my advice, people would have perceived me to be a Seer. Then, every night I could just claim that anyone is a Human (with good odds) and have killed with impunity.

If Gorduz was a WW, it was game over. In any case, it was win-win for me.

Aramike
02-17-09, 02:04 AM
Oh, and one final thing: Neal - Great idea for a game, and thanks for running it!

Chad
02-17-09, 02:15 AM
One thing is for sure, Aramike did a great job throwing us off his track, and Hitman did really well hiding his Identity. I'm surprised Hitman didn't take me out earlier when I promised him control over the camp and village if I was to perish.

I honestly thought Contact was a werewolf, his disappearance that first night, and Penelope's story about how is election was rigged totally threw me off :haha: I'm sorry Contact..

Early in the game, infact after i had to google what an Oberst was, I PM'd Neal and mentioned I didn't feel like an Oberst, and that I felt like I was in charge of a POW camp, ya know, like the one from Hart's War, or Stalag 17. That would explain my cockiness and ordering around, I'm really not like that :O:

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 02:18 AM
I take it that Aramike did most of his maneuvers behind the scenes, then? I never got a single hint that he was a hellhound. BTW, how did you manage to convince everyone to hit Gorduz? For that matter, how did you know to target him? Must've been some first-class action on your part.

When I first began questioning Aramike, I did the same thing I did with everyone else. I told him that he was a prime suspect and that he was next in line for the firing squad. Mayor Contact's execution was my evidence.
Somehow, he thought that pretending to be a seer would benefit him. He then accused Gorduz of being a werewolf. Obviously, if Gorduz was not a werewolf, Aramike would be lying and therefore either a worthless liar or a traitor.

I said as much to the rest of the Kamp Letze Jagd personnel that comprised the investigation. My reasoning to them was that either we have a seer and a werwolf, or we have an innocent victim, an example to the rest, and a lying traitor. I provided the others with transcripts of Aramike's testimony, as well.
To be honest, there were a few moments of doubt during that day's voting period. Chad, A Very Super Market, and Oberon waited until the last second to cast their votes. So I took it upon myself to contact several others and change tried to change their votes. Weiss Pinguin voted for Gorduz after I told him that he would draw the attention of the investigation if he voted otherwise, because of Neal's scripted implication that he might have made Letum into a werewolf. JCWolf changed his vote after I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing by making himself an obvious candidate for lynching. I also contacted others, including stabiz and mookiemookie (I think)
End result, the obvious candidate for the day gets off scott-free and the power of the inquisition is emphasized. I also earned the trust of JCWolf, right before we were both horribly dismembered.
Oh, I almost forgot. I also told several people that Gorduz was the prime reason for the lynching of Contact, even though that was completely untrue. I never spoke to the guy. I was just using him to figure out Aramike.

Hitman...I curse myself for missing him, his first "seer" call on Contact should've directed me to him immediately. I pointed this out to the committee, but as Hitman was on it I didn't get anything done...and by the time I got my "posthumous letter" out, it was too late.

I had no indication that any of those events had taken place. Hitman was concealing information.


As for the rest, I never suspected them. Although, I can see how not attacking all the time can psychologically screw everyone up: for most of the time, I thought there were only three wolves. It was a nasty shock to discover a total of five


Really, I didn't fare much better. The second that Aramike claimed to be a seer, all of my attention was on him, for the reasons previously mentioned.
My next targets for interrogation were Penelope Grey, Weiss Pinguin, and Firewall.
I questioned Firewall once already, but he was totally useless, so assuming that I had lived, I probably would have had him shot next just for being uninformative and annoying:DL

SandyCaesar
02-17-09, 02:26 AM
I had no indication that any of those events had taken place. Hitman was concealing information.


Here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1043874&postcount=254

That alone should've pointed to him after Contact turned out not to be a werewolf. It seemed that everyone, myself included, missed that point to grill him.

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 02:28 AM
One thing is for sure, Aramike did a great job throwing us off his track, and Hitman did really well hiding his Identity. I'm surprised Hitman didn't take me out earlier when I promised him control over the camp and village if I was to perish

You made Hitman your second? That's in complete noncompliance with the instructions I issued for choosing a second. Why would you make another analyzer your second? That does us no good at all:O:

I honestly thought Contact was a werewolf, his disappearance that first night, and Penelope's story about how is election was rigged totally threw me off :haha: I'm sorry Contact..
You are the worst Oberst, ever:rotfl: :O: :salute:


Early in the game, infact after i had to google what an Oberst was, I PM'd Neal and mentioned I didn't feel like an Oberst, and that I felt like I was in charge of a POW camp, ya know, like the one from Hart's War, or Stalag 17. That would explain my cockiness and ordering around, I'm really not like that :O:


No kidding. That's why I pegged you as trustworthy from the start. I even told you who my second was, against my own regulations. :DL

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 02:31 AM
I had no indication that any of those events had taken place. Hitman was concealing information.


Here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1043874&postcount=254

That alone should've pointed to him after Contact turned out not to be a werewolf. It seemed that everyone, myself included, missed that point to grill him.

:damn: :damn: :damn:
I do remember that message. It came right before I began interrogating Contact and I totally ignored it. :doh:

JCWolf
02-17-09, 04:01 AM
Here are, according to my notes, the Night Actions:
http://www.subsim.com/1_12werewolves.htm

As you can see, things were going well for the forces of evil, until they lynched Aramike, and then Nisgeis took out two of his own werewolves :haha:



Sorry Neal S, I was almost sure it was Hitman who attacked me and
my Buddy over the Barracks..... and now I see I wasn't attacked by anyone ?????


Never the less I was killed...:D :hmmm:

By who then ????

Penelope_Grey
02-17-09, 04:14 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:

Fincuan
02-17-09, 04:26 AM
Ah, the bloody awful truth :D

At the time of my death my list was like this:
Hellhound - Penelope
Werewolf - Aramike
Werewolf - FIREWALL
Werewolf - Task Force

Looks like we would have take down an innocent and one werewolf would be on the large should things have gone my way. Luckily for Penelope a werewolf came in and saved the day(or night), event though it was a different werewolf than I'd have thought. I was certain it was either Task Force or FIREWALL that killed me.

This part, where you get to see who everyone was and then compare that to their actions in the game, is almost as interesting as the game itself. Thanks to Neal for setting up and administrating the game, must have been quite a task. :up:

JCWolf
02-17-09, 04:36 AM
Ok ,


This was my guide lines and plans...


At the begining My first thoughts whent to the U-Boat
Since the all story started to grow and the WW apeared
when the U-13 touched the refuel base....

So I traced a plan, or a road, I was a Guardian, and had no way
Of knowing who to Protect, So I whent to the most Obviouse
protection , The U-Boat Kpt. for the reazon that I needed to trace
a plan and know exactely who he was and to locate a Seer that was
my main protection target, in the first night I saw my plan
was geting no were, so in order to advance and be able to locate
a Seer I had to risk a litlle and call out their atention on me, knowind that
by Telling a story of past WW in my Childhood and life I would be
free of 2 things for a cople of nights, Werewolf attacks cause they would
think I was one of them, and a target for a Seer that would ask Neal
who I was and when knew that I was a Guardian could PM me and
this way I could provide a important game link ( Seer) protection against
future WW attacks preserving this way what I thought it was our best
weapon (Seers) against the WW...


I took the risk of Taking this as far as I could untill Jimbuna PM'd me
asking directly if I was a WW, I decided not to tell him for sure
cause I was not certain of is Ident. but that was a doubt that came out,


Who was I protecting then ?

Cause as a Seer he wouldn't had made that question via PM to me ?

So if he was not a Seer who was he? Human or WW ?

With this I changed my protection target and left the poor U 13 Kpt to his
own fait and decided to protect UnderseaLcpl, The reazon now was diferent,

I saw that he was taking some wierd decision at the first glance and I decided
to move my Guardian's dagger near him for 2 reazons, he was around Lettum that I knew for sure ( Acourding WW Myths) that since he was attacked and survived he had to be a WW, and to search on the shadows for clues on UnderseaLcpl ID...

Again if my Plan was in fact followed by a Seer and we had made contact we could have changed the story course, by taking our targets toghether...

But then nobody payed attention to what I was saying anyway...but to ther
Own plans and game style... so I died... :salute:

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 05:09 AM
Never the less I was killed...:D :hmmm:

By who then ????

That's weird, as you could only have been killed by the hell hound, but Neal's spreadsheet shows that Aramilke attacked UnderseaLcpl that night. Given that A Very Super Market got seer information when he shouldn't have, I think it's possibly an 'accounting error' somewhere along the line. Aramike, did you attack JCWolf on night 3?

Raptor1
02-17-09, 05:09 AM
TF was my first suspect, followed by Oberon...guess I got the first one right

Also TF completely screwed up the boat's engines, I think Herr Kaleun should think twice before appointing an unqualified warewolf to fix such equipment... :nope:

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 05:35 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:

I think you owe Pinguin an apology also. You accused almost everyone, so you were bound to be right. You were also wrong a lot :DL .

You really were acting like a werewolf though, I especially liked the posts where you'd sit down lamented accusing someone who was innocent, then said how you'd never make another allegation again, and then pointed the finger at about three other people, all in the same post. I loved that.

Jimbuna
02-17-09, 06:12 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:

Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:

Penelope_Grey
02-17-09, 06:30 AM
Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:
LOL @ the dice were loaded. And it would be grossly unfair to pin a target on me for a future game simply because of this one. Fresh start, clean slate and all that.

I lost it in the end, because I was so sure that Nisgeis was the wolf and nobody was paying any attention, Pinguin kept voting to have me shot... I could see the winners podium and I wanted to stand on it. lol After a day and a half stalemate when I had the answer, I was just wanting it to be over so team human could win. :rock:

And thanks for not quoting it. LOL Though, it was really funny that hissy fit! Tee hee.

LOL me look after the patrol vehicle? No way, gimme a gun and send me in! :arrgh!:

Actually, later on, I will write up my so called... "plan"... and I will share it in the thread here. If in the next game I am on the bad side, it might help the humans who knows.

I was wrong a lot, but I was also right a lot more than anybody else. ha ha!:salute:

You can't argue with my record in this game, come on.... I got FIREWALL right at the start! I figured out Letum was innocent. Once I began cooperating with Oberon I sussed Hitman, then Aramike, and you Nisgeis.

FWIW... Nisgeis I tried several methods to eliminate you as a suspect. When you gave into my blackmail and voted to lynch Aramike who you must have known was a wolf, you called my bluff and that threw me somewhat, well done, so then I decided to alter my approach and lean on Pinguin heavy in the hope you would let your guard down. But you didn't really... you refused to vote for him. Which pretty much clued me in as you were the wolf. But I wasn't certain... so had to backtrack then and try to make up the missing ground with Pinguin.

JCWolf
02-17-09, 06:58 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:

Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:

I protected you the first 2 nights...

Jimbuna
02-17-09, 07:34 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:

Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:

I protected you the first 2 nights...

Cheers mate :up:

I wonder who the other one was? :hmmm:

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 08:43 AM
First, sorry to Raptor1, I did feel a bit guilty for killing you! If anyone doesn’t want to read an essay, stop now!

This was a great game, being the fox among the hounds, I got a bit of a heart in throat at a few points. From my point of view, I decided to lay low and accuse one person who I thought was a werewolf, for a later banker. PG was accusing everyone left right and centre, so I chose her as the most likely to be a werewolf.

I had a plan to look at the voting and to attack anyone who was the first to successfully vote to lynch a werewolf, but the game went on for too long, without any wolves being lynched for that to work.

As for Task Force and Firewall, I’d looked at their voting and had determined that they were not voting with the crowd, but voting independently, so I assumed that one or both of them was a seer. Firewall had also publicly posted that he ‘knew’ that Jimbuna was a werewolf and at the time, I thought Jimbuna was a seer, so I put that in the confusion box for later. I had Jimbuna pegged for a potential seer, as he was not voting with the crowd, but was voting consistently for Letum and the way Letum was acting so over the top as a werewolf, I thought that must be a double bluff. By the third night though, it appeared that he wasn’t a seer at all, as Letum was innocent, so I left him alone as he may have been a wolf. With that assumption, it seemed likely that Firewall’s seerlike prediction (which, by the way no one questioned him about) could be accurate, so I attacked him after TF. What I thought was that the werewolves would try to blend in, by voting with the mob and that the seers would be the only ones to vote independently. It didn’t seem like much of an effort to see which way a vote was going and then vote that way. After about 30% of the votes had been cast it was safe to tag along and vote without tipping the balance of the vote. As a werewolf, you wouldn’t unduly influence the vote and you couldn’t be accused of not voting for any werewolves caught. I figured the seers would stand out, as they had knowledge, where as the wolves would try to blend in, so with that I attacked two wolves, who were standing out.

What I couldn’t fathom though is some of the really bizarre stuff that people were putting. Making wild accusations, when they couldn’t possibly know anything, also a number of people acted like they were werewolves. With the exception of Letum, who I had no idea what was going on there, I assumed they were doing this to avoid a werewolf attack, so I did not attack anyone that was acting that way. They were far too valuable alive, as they would no doubt draw attention to themselves. I think the other werewolves figured this as well, as no one attacked them. It seemed a bit pointless to do the mob’s work for them. Then sometime on the third or fourth night, I worked out that there had been a lot of missed werewolf attacks, or there had been an extra wolf added. That confused me, especially with the Lesrae thing. There only seemed to be enough attacks for three wolves. I assumed (and wrote in my journal) that as the two bodies of Laufen zum Ziel and Fincuan had been found together this was a dead giveaway that one of them was a guardian and they had been attacked by a hellhound. I of course wrote that it was the heroic crew member of the U-13 Fincuan who was the Guardian.

When Hitman PM’d me, claiming to have information from a ‘contact’ I wondered if that meant he was a seer or werewolf or did in fact have a contact. He said he had information that Penelope Grey was indeed a werewolf, which I already suspected, with her fantastically deranged role playing. I pretended to him that I had a contact that had supplied PG’s name. Something about the way that he spoke didn’t ring true, so I suspected that he was a werewolf and was considering revealing my wolfishness to him. Then though, he threw me completely by giving his vote to someone else that night. I didn’t know what to make of that, so left him alone. The next night, when he was being targeted for a lynching, he PM’d me to say that he didn’t mind being out of the game, as he was going to suicide anyway, as he was going to be busy that day and night. He then posted about cleaning his gun and looking at it strangely, like he was going to off himself. This made me think that he wasn’t a werewolf, so I didn’t reveal anything to him. I also didn’t try to save him from the lynch, as he was being apathetic. That was a shame, as I lost info on who he had attacked and therefore who possibly was a guardian. I could have PMd him after he was lynched, but I consider that that would have been cheating. I took the stance than dead men tell no tales.

Taking a look at the werewolf voting, of the total attacks possible by the werewolves and hellhound combined, there were a total of 18 attack opportunities (13 for the werewolves and 5 for the hellhound). Of those 18, only 12 attacks were made, with a huge SIX attacks missed or passed on. That’s a third of all the attacks. That works out that effectively, there were 3.3 werewolves playing the game on average. This is too low to take on 26 or so people. Three is the number I had figured on, based on the attacks of previous nights, so I was assuming that there were three guardians and three seers as well, with the rest humans. I incorrectly assumed that I was the last werewolf, when Aramike was still alive, so paid no special attention to trying to identify werewolves, so I would not attack them.

When Oberon was attacked, I was surprised, as I thought I was alone. From this second attack, I was convinced that the hellhound was dead, as the best course of action for the hellhound was to attack either of the two named guardians, AVSM or Mookiemookie as with them two alive, the end game was going to be very difficult. As neither of them died, I assumed that the other werewolf was not a hellhound. I didn’t know if it was a new werewolf or not. The lack of kill opportunities taken up by the wolves screwed my calculations on that. I don’t know if the altered rules for guardian protecting guardian had been applied the first attack, and I don’t know if Aramike did either, but maybe that swayed his decision, or it was a political decision. Guardians were given more protective power than originally had been stated. In the original rules, there is no reason ever for two guardians to provide mutual protection, as that’s a guarantee of them both being killed. For some reason Mookie and AVSM decided to do just that, but I can’t fathom why. That’s just a recipe (under the original rules) for a double killing by a hellhound. That was the one rule change that tripped me up, as it hadn’t been posted that it had changed, I was still operating under wrong assumptions. There was a statement that some rules would change next time, so I had no reason to think that rules for the current game had changed.

Some of the narrative I found so misleading previously that I had to ignore most of it, along with everything people had posted they had done. Everyone was posting they’d done this test and that test and this proved they weren’t that or whatever. As it was just what people were writing themselves, it meant nothing at all. I didn’t know that people were actually being given clues and some of the ‘tests’ were real, effectively increasing the number of seers, after the real seers were dead! I was working under the assumption that two of the seers had been killed early and there was only one left. I just saw Oberon as a distraction to what was actually going on and that if he was a real seer, he would not post about his tests (which was both right as he wasn’t a seer, but wrong, as he was seerlike) and he wouldn’t be so quick to vote wrongly. Had I known his tests were actually being acted on, I may have chosen differently and removed another seer. I saw Oberon’s ‘tests’ as a harmless distraction and not something that would give him information.

Main factors attributing to werewolf failure

This isn’t a whinge, it’s just an analysis as next time I may well be a seer, or a Guardian, so I’m not trying to say the game should be balanced in one way. I think we shouldn't change any rules and see what happens next time. :

Me killing two other wolves.

I was under the impression, the same as Hitman was, that werewolves could not kill other werewolves, as it was stated that the only way to kill one was to lynch one. I wasn’t being too careful about whether I was wrong in attacking a wolf, as I didn’t know it would have such a dire consequence. Still, I killed the most werewolves, either by vote or by throat J So I should get a prize J.

Wolves only attack two thirds of the time. This was a major dent in our chances.

Extension of the lynch vote. If that had not been extended beyond the agreed deadline, PG would have been lynched and the power of the shorebased three would have been diminished. Curses! Werewolves missed attacks, so humans should miss votes, to be balanced.

Firewall was not revealed as being a werewolf. Having three wolves revealed in one boat would have put more suspicion on the land.

The rule change to do with what happened when a hellhound killed a human who was protected by a guardian. That made me think that A very super market was not a guardian, as that’s what the rules said. As AVSM knew he was a Guardian, he must have known that the rules to do with hell hound attacks had changed and was then able to apply that to getting the two named guardians to protect each other. IMHO the rules should stand, as random events that favour either side at the start will be balanced out by random things at the end, so the best thing is to just let things flow. Attempts to manually balance a game in progress can sometimes cause an imbalance later down the line.

Neal naming as fact who two of the guardians were. With the new rule about guardians protecting each other, at this point all the humans had to do, was to not lynch the two guardians and they’d win by attrition. The guardians could protect each other against any hellhounds and they were basically immune and couldn’t lose. Even if they didn’t know the hell hound was dead, it was still the only correct strategy to lynch methodically everyone not named as a guardian.



All in all, what a brilliant game. I think next time I’ll be glad to be human, as it’s a lot of effort being a wolf, as you not only have to work out who is a wolf, but also who the guardians, seers and humans are. You also have to really carefully check your posts. At one point, when there were four people left in U-13, I almost posted that there was a one in four chance of lynching a werewolf in the U-13, compared to a one in three chance ashore, but that would have given away that I was a werewolf, as it should have been a one in three for both sides. I had no idea there was another werewolf left. The attack levels were too low.

The only way to know for sure if the games are balanced, is to play a few and see who wins, without changing the rules between games. If one side wins consistently, then the balance needs adjusting, until then we won’t know and it’s too early to change anything.

When I have some time, I'd love to work out all the probabilities involved, e.g. likelyhood of a werewolf killing a werewolf on the first night etcetera.

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 09:05 AM
I was told some players sent screenshots of their PM from me assigning their secret IDs! Like that wouldn't be easy to fake, lol.
It's not easy to fake a foolproof version of a document you haven't seen, as you've got no idea what the text should say. Even if you do manage to get the text of the original PM, you then have to know what times you sent the other PMs. IE, assuming you sent all the IDs out in one go, then are you limited to 90 seconds between messages? What happens if someone has a PM that is within 90 seconds of the time on the faked PM? All that sort of stuff is easy to get wrong and if you do slip up, then you are dead. Also, you can't pretend to be anything but human. If you pretend to be a guardian, by getting someone's PM off them and you whip up a fake PM based on that, then the correct logical challenge to that is 'Let's see a screenshot of your request for who to guard'. Like, the werewolves one said 'Werewolves, Attack!'. So, did the guardian one say Guardians, Guard! or Guardians, Protect?! Either way, you are just opening yourself up for a counter challenge that you can't respond to and then you are dead. Forgery is not as easy as it seems.

I was a bit surprised that people were doing this, as I don't really feel it's within the spirit of the game. It's like getting down to the last four people and then saying, right, turn your secret cards over and let's see who you are. When I play again, I don't want to see these screenshots sent unsolicited to me, as it just takes something of the game away. I was quite disappointed at the end when I had seen two peoples secret ID PMs and knew who they were for sure, as it took a lot of the mystery of the game away. I certainly will never send a screenshot of my secret ID PM to anyone in any other games, even if I am human.

The game is quite a lot of work to play and I don't think anyone should resort to the effort of actually forging the initial PMs as that's just too much. There were plenty of great mind games going on and I don't know about revealing your secret ID PMs as a game tactic. It makes the game somehow less cunning and guile and more mathematical certainty.

I waited for someone to “find and retrieve the talisman.”

What would have happened if a werewolf had picked it up? :-)

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 09:14 AM
FWIW... Nisgeis I tried several methods to eliminate you as a suspect. When you gave into my blackmail and voted to lynch Aramike who you must have known was a wolf, you called my bluff and that threw me somewhat, well done, so then I decided to alter my approach and lean on Pinguin heavy in the hope you would let your guard down. But you didn't really... you refused to vote for him. Which pretty much clued me in as you were the wolf. But I wasn't certain... so had to backtrack then and try to make up the missing ground with Pinguin.

I voted when it made no difference, just in case Aramike was a wolf. At the start, once about 25 - 30% of the total votes available in the early game have been cast, then it's safe to jump on the bandwagon without unduly affecting the outcome of the vote. In the later game, I randomly went from voting at the end, to voting for you, who by that time (after I saw your PM) I knew was not a wolf. I had no idea Aramike was a werewolf, he was very good at hiding. Hitman I kind of guessed, but then he threw me a couple of curve balls, and the narrative of his death (veins like cords and great strength) sort of implied he was the hell hound. TF not a clue, Firewall not a clue, they were very good, or I wouldn't have killed them. The only thing they did was to vote independently, which made them stand out.

I thought about not voting right away the last day, as I considered that it would likely make you switch targets from Weiss Pinguin to me, but at the point, with the two guardians being named, there was no way to win, unless the humans did something really stupid. I was banking that Mookie and AVSM would miss the vote. You clearly had no way of knowing if the werewolf was me or Weiss Pinguin. I could have stuck it out another day, but there really wasn't much point.

I did have some success convincing Weiss Pinguin that your PM was a fake though. I did consider whipping up a fake, but the game was time consuming enough, without having to go through all that rubbish :-).

mookiemookie
02-17-09, 09:18 AM
mookiemookie flew under the radar for a while. I barely noticed him until the Chad incident. What I do want to know is why he protected me in the first place.

When you made your OOC "please help me, I'm confused and would someone PM me?" post, I knew you were a human. If you were a wolf, you'd just say screw it and keep attacking people regardless of being confused. :03:

mookiemookie
02-17-09, 09:19 AM
Interesting isn't it?

Pinguin... I believe I am owed an apology!!:yeah:

Bragging mode on:
Were it not for me. The humans would have lost.

I guessed EVERY single wolf in the game! How cool is that?

FIREWALL - I was right!
Task Force - correct
Hitman - correct
Nisgeis - correct
Aramike - correct

I rule!!:rock:
Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:
I protected you the first 2 nights...
Cheers mate :up:

I wonder who the other one was? :hmmm:

Me.

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 09:32 AM
Extension of the lynch vote. If that had not been extended beyond the agreed deadline, PG would have been lynched and the power of the shorebased three would have been diminished. Curses! Werewolves missed attacks, so humans should miss votes, to be balanced.

Yes, I didn't spell that out very clearly in the time schedule (that was imposed on me :haha: ).


8am to 6pm Day begins, discussion for 10 hours, role-playing, then votes for lynching must be submitted by 5pm

6pm to 8pm lynch vote counted, execution carried out


When I said the lynch vote must be submitted by 5pm, I was applying "Wife timing" psychology. That is, some of you waited until the last $#^&* minute to cast your vote, so I told you it had to be in an hour before I really wanted it. :O: Any time you need to go someplace at 6pm, you best tell the the wife the party is at 5pm to have a chance of making it before 8pm! I had no intention of shutting off the vote until everyone voted or until 6pm. Since some people never voted, I usually went up to the 6pm deadline.

While I was waiting for the late voters, other people were changing their votes at the last minute too. That's ok, it was the perpetually slow voters who kept me waiting.

NealT
02-17-09, 09:41 AM
Well I was wrong about PG in the beginning (but that was part of a story I made up) and I had suspicions about JCWolf (he really should not have been growing hair on his arm).

However, Neal has said...

Odd, none of the players seemed to notice that Nisgeis, who was in the boat with Fincuan, was not hurt and never spoke up about what had happened. Sure, the other players were not present as characters in the boat, but that should not have stopped them from questioning him in the lynch debates. Perhaps it was because of Nisgeis’ skill in crafting very convincing diary entries in his posts.… he was very clever, I would be wary of playing in a game with him.

And I would have sworn I caught on to that...and that I said something. Because that was very strange and did key me in. I just didn't push things because I was trying to stay in character by playing the 'old fisherman' type guy...

It was fun doing this and to let you know...this was my first ever RPG.....so thanks to all for a great time.

NealT

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 09:43 AM
I waited for someone to “find and retrieve the talisman.”

What would have happened if a werewolf had picked it up? :-)

Awesome! I don't know, I guess he would have buried it and score one for the werewolves! :salute:

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 09:56 AM
The rule change to do with what happened when a hellhound killed a human who was protected by a guardian. That made me think that A very super market was not a guardian, as that’s what the rules said. As AVSM knew he was a Guardian, he must have known that the rules to do with hell hound attacks had changed and was then able to apply that to getting the two named guardians to protect each other. IMHO the rules should stand, as random events that favour either side at the start will be balanced out by random things at the end, so the best thing is to just let things flow. Attempts to manually balance a game in progress can sometimes cause an imbalance later down the line.

I'm not sure what you mean, how did this rule change?

Hellhound - The Hellhound is a particularly nasty breed of werewolf, capable of overpowering even a human Guardian. These choose one person to attack each night, just as a normal werewolf does. However, if that person is a Guardian, they are killed just as if they were a normal human. Or if that person is being protected by a Guardian, BOTH players are killed. If, by chance, the Hellhound attacks someone defended by TWO Guardians, the Hellhound randomly kills one of the three players (The attackee, or one of the two Guardians).



If a HH attacked a human, human = dead. :dead:

If a HH attacked a human protected by a Guardian, human+guardian = dead. :dead: :dead:

However, if a HH attacked a human protected by 2 guardians, then one of the three is selected at random and is dead. ?:dead:

The night HH Aramike attacked human Chad, he was protected by Guardian Super Market, who was in turn protected by Guardian Mookie. The rules did not implicitly say what to do in this situation, but in my judgment, that was akin to the "HH attacked a human protected by 2 guardians" part, so I selected Chad as the sole victim and wrote the narrative to reflect that.

The night preceding that was an even bigger mess! UnderseaLpcl was human, protected by Guardian JCwolf. UnderseaLcpl was also, at first, protected by Guardian Super Market, then, before Day began, Super Market changed his vote to Chad (everyone was always changing stuff! But I kept track of it all!!) Undersea was attacked by HH Aramike and WW Task Force. It was a big ass pile on! So, Undersea and JCWolf died, and Super Market was off protecting Chad to no effect. That's why the narrative was written thusly (Bolded to indicate where narrative relates to events received by PM:

Feb. 12, 1945 05:10

“That’s quite a collection of medals you have there, Oberfeldwebel,” said Gemeiner JCWolf with genuine interest. “I see the Anschluss Medal, the Spanish Cross, the Prague Castle bar, und here is the Iron Cross, First Class. You have a long and distinguished career of service to the Reich.”

“Ja, and I intend to see this war through, demon or no,” laughed UnderseaLcpl. He sloshed his brandy on the display case. “Ach, now I better clean this, I don’t want to drop it on my foot.”

The three men laughed. “You would be in line for a Wound badge as well.”

“More brandy,” JCWolf,” asked UnderseaLcpl, offering the sifter.

“Danke, kind sir,” replied JCWolf. “As our fearless friends hiding in the U-boat would say: Los!”

“And you?”said UnderseaLcpl.

“Nein, no more for me, danke. I think I will venture over and check on Oberst Chad.” (Super Market, changing his choice of who to protect)

“That is a grand idea,” replied JCWolf. I will remain here and watch over the heroic Oberfeldwebel and his brandy. Maybe he will loan me his medals for the next leave. I could get any Fraulein in Berlin with a chestful of those.”

“Give Chad my regards,” said UnderseaLcpl. The door closed. “Ah, a brave fellow, so dutiful. I don’t know if it was wise to go out in the night though,” he said.

“Well, these young guys, they know no fear,” said JCWolf. “Speaking of young guys, I worry about Letum.”

“At least he stopped screaming. I gave him such a dose, he will sleep until….”

At that, there was hesitant scratching at the door. “What? Back already?” laughed UnderseaLcpl. He opened the door--then stopped dead in his tracks. JCWolf saw his eyes bulge, his face frozen with fear. He sprang forward, shouldering the older man to the side, his gun out of the holster in an instant.

“Der Teufel! It’s true…” he gasped. He stepped back. “My duty…is to guard…the Vaterland… and her heroes.” He swallowed but fear remained. Another step back as the crouching fiend advanced. (Task Force)

UnderseaLcpl got to his feat. Resolve filled his face. “I am at your side, Gemeiner.”

Then, like the crack of doom, a profound smashing of the side window shutters behind them, something huge, and fast, and ravenous exploded (Aramike) into the small hut ….

mookiemookie
02-17-09, 10:21 AM
As far as the role play dynamic goes, one small change I'd like to see would be to have everyone on the same "side". I felt like the town vs. wehrmacht vs. u-boat vs. werewolf thing limited role play.

Hitman
02-17-09, 10:30 AM
So it's finally over :yeah:

Nisgeis, you bastard LOL :haha: I suspected from you from the first time you replied to me saying you also had a contact....I knew too well my own lie to tell when someone else was using it also :haha: :haha:


The thing is, this game was may be too long for people with some real life issues. If I had not revealed my identity to Penelope Grey (And to Jimbuna) so I could be lynched or otherwise suicide, the game could have been different, probably also because the huge lie I created about Jimbuna unbeliavably started to be believed :har: , and the only one who was in a position to question it was Nisgeis, who I had already started to suspect was a wolf and could even support it.

I just couldn't help laughing my a*s off thinking bout Jim's face when he readed it. :rotfl: Jim's a great guy and took it with sportmanship (What else would you have expected from a true brit except that, and then a huge strike back? ;) )

Also, again due to real life constraints I missed an attack at night 3 I would have directed at A Very Supermarket, a night when he was not guarded :damn:


Nevertheless I must say that this is the first time I have ever participated in a RPG, and honestly I didn't like its ultimate essence. Yes it sure was fun to see how people displayed their sense of humour and abilities for the narrative, but ultimately I don't feel comfortable playing a role, I'm too straightforward for that :hmmm:

Cheers everybody, the thing I now miss more is having been able to go with you all in real life into a pub and drink a beer together while laughing and commenting this all :up:

Nisgeis
02-17-09, 10:54 AM
Nisgeis, you bastard LOL :haha: I suspected from you from the first time you replied to me saying you also had a contact....I knew too well my own lie to tell when someone else was using it also :haha: :haha:

Well, I thought it was an odd PM, so I decided to reply with the exact same message you sent me, so if you were being honest you'd believe it and if you weren't being hoest, you'd suspect me to be lying and therefore a werewolf. I didnt see a way I could get burned by that. It worked for you, but your giving the vote to someone else made me question it.

Weiss Pinguin
02-17-09, 10:56 AM
Yep, kudos to Nisgeis, he really suckered me in right up to the last minute. The only time I started wondering was at the very end when Penelope was so confident that you were it.

This was as much fun as the games of Mafia I've played with friends, great work Neal. :yeah:





So when's the next game? :lol:

Jimbuna
02-17-09, 10:57 AM
Now now.....hindsight is a wonderful thing....but with all of the *cough* information you gathered, it could easily be argued the dice were loaded once the numbers were down to 6 or 7.

You would do well working for some gang specialising in blackmail :cool:

I perceive a large target being pinned to your back in any future game :O:

Who was it that 'lost it' near the end? Bowels were evacuated and toys were thrown way outside of the pram :rotfl:

I was going to quote your post for posterity but thought better and decided you needed a chill pill instead :doh:

I think if I'd ever been called to a bank raid and you were my shift partner it would be safer upon arrival at the scene if I directed you to look after the patrol vehicle :DL

Joking aside: Great game Neal, many thanks for the participation invite. It was a truly invigorating experience.

I thought EVERYONE did themselves credit and interracted very well with one another and was truly astonished at how much tension was generated nearer the end.

One question though: Who were the two Guardians that protected me that first night?

P.S. Don't anyone go partaking in the nibbles on Penelopes bar counter :03:
Cheers mate :up:

I wonder who the other one was? :hmmm:

Me.

Cheers mookie http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

As much as everyone who participated was really excellent, I will never forget the terse exchanges during the last two nights between Pen, Nisgeis and Pinguin http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pissedoff.gif

Oberon
02-17-09, 11:33 AM
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Fantastic game, with some very close held cards. It was fantastic to be able to go up against you guys.
The investigation was very enjoyable, Jims response was particularly hilarious when I asked him some questions, I believe it was along the lines that I'd have "more chance of getting your arse bit off by a cabbage" and then went on to warn me of the "wolf that suckles its young" hence my change of tack onto Penelope and the Wolfsbane, which I'm glad was actually a valid indicator. After Neal confirmed that the wolves could hold silver, I panicked a little that the Wolfsbane would have been a red herring.
The Inquisition was a little scary at first, with UnderseaLcpl acting like some deranged trigger happy sheriff "If you do not respond within the allocated time, then you will be assumed to be untrustworthy". However I managed to bluff my way into that one, however the information that Aramike lied to us was pretty damning after Gorduz copped it, and when the rest of the Inquisition dwindled I had to make the info public, and I'm glad that they got him in the end.
Otherwise, I had suspects in the big groups at first, Chad, Jim, Hitman (got that one right) and Xabba, who I suspected right up until he blew his brains out all over my newspaper. :haha:
As an RP Wehrmacht soldier, I was constrained to following orders from the higher command, although I bent them a little to investigate matters. The temporary leave from the Wehrmacht then put me in a position to be able to judge Chad and co, without having to worry about command decisions.
That East Tower, god, it was all happening there! Despite Oberons best attempts to turn it into the Siegfried line with searchlights and tripwires galore (self-preservation :haha: ), although Oberon was starting to crack up near the end.
The self-destruct plan, if it looked like the wolves were going to win, was to turn all the searchlights skyward and turn them on, then use the alcohol to set fire to a massive X near the village and the explosives on the fuel depot. If that giant blaze didn't attract the RAF then nothing would :haha: The other idea would have been to put everyone in the Uboat and scuttle it, but thankfully Jim ignored that and Aramike ate me before I cracked completely!
I did suspect Ni-Nis-Bob but couldn't bring up any decent evidence to accuse him before I snuffed it, I completely missed that he was in the boat with Fin and co, talk about wood for the trees :damn:
Lesrae was confusing, although it netted me a silver pistol in the end, thanks NealT :yeah:
I also had a plan to tell Xabba where I was hiding up for the night (the church) and then mask my scent with flowers, so if I died that night, Xabba would be the suspect, but Neal decided (wisely) that everyone would be trying to mask their scent every night which would bjork the werewolves a fair bit. :haha:

Count me on board for the next adventure! :shucks:

NealT
02-17-09, 12:20 PM
The silver pistol was, I thought, a clever idea...and had I survived the night, I was going to ask for it back.

Having said that...you are welcome anyway...

:har::salute:

Raptor1
02-17-09, 12:28 PM
Oberon, did it not occur to you to try to use the searchlights to send a message to Stockholm?

UnderseaLcpl
02-17-09, 12:31 PM
UnderseaLcpl acting like some deranged trigger happy sheriff

I'll take that as a compliment:O:

Oberon
02-17-09, 12:53 PM
Oberon, did it not occur to you to try to use the searchlights to send a message to Stockholm?

....


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no

:oops:

Weiss Pinguin
02-17-09, 01:22 PM
Oberon, did it not occur to you to try to use the searchlights to send a message to Stockholm?

....


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no

:oops:
Why didn't I think of that? :haha: As watch officer onboard a U-boat, I should've had that idea right from the start...

Oberon
02-17-09, 01:42 PM
Oh, and ROFLMFAO Neal!! :har: :har: :har: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

It was like a bus packed full of nubile teenage girls headed to Crystal Lake and Jason steps into the road and they flatten him like a overripe pumpkin. Alas.

Aramike
02-17-09, 01:44 PM
Never the less I was killed...:D :hmmm:

By who then ????

That's weird, as you could only have been killed by the hell hound, but Neal's spreadsheet shows that Aramilke attacked UnderseaLcpl that night. Given that A Very Super Market got seer information when he shouldn't have, I think it's possibly an 'accounting error' somewhere along the line. Aramike, did you attack JCWolf on night 3?I think I got Undersea and JCWolf at the same time. :rock:

Penelope_Grey
02-17-09, 01:50 PM
My plan

It was simple really. I figured, on some Matthew Broderick logic from Godzilla. You'd think finding Godzilla would be easy right? After all he is a 300 foot lizard... but no... finding Godzilla was hard. So instead, Matthew Broderick, decided he would simply lure Godzilla out.

Which was my idea, lure out the werewolves. I thought if I confuse both sides to the point where they can't be sure of my being human or not I can learn a lot. High risk, but big reward.:D

So essentially, I elected to take each day as it came, there was no big master plan... lol it was just a question of rather than find the wolf, figure out who is not a wolf should be easier.

FIREWALL I worked out right at the start, because of how cocky he was straight off the bat with his weapons and also others seemed to RP more cautiously and added a confusion element to theirs not sure what it was. He didn't add any confusion. I thought he must be a werewolf, or, he's just clumsy at his RPing. I decided that it was the former.

Hitman - he eventually did give himself away to me willingly, but he didn't know if I was a wolf or not, did you Hits? But he wanted out the game, anyway I was suspecting him or UnderseaCpl as being the werewolf in the upper echelons of the army part. So that answered that! lol

Aramike - I fooled and confused hook line and sinker, he gave himself away to me too. :) He also suffers from being a Hellhound of his word too. :O: LMAO

Task Force - he was tricky! I honestly was not sure either way, I must confess, he was a gut feeling that I decided fit the bill given the narratives and the RPs I read. He was a 6th sense guess.

Nisgeis - I take my hat off to. I bullied him mercilessly to get him to shoot Aramike, who he must have known was a werewolf and voted to have him shot anyway! I honestly started to believe this ruled him out, and also misinterpreted some of the narrative too... and so led me to think our last target was pinguin! Anyway, there was a shred of doubt, which grew into a huge lump, and I urged the others in the mini alliance I had going with AVSM and mookie and then Jimbuna to not shoot Pinguin... though Kpt Buna voted to lynch Pinguin anyway. Nisgeis played a flanker and called me up no end.

My plan was to literally just bumble through the game as best I could! Also I thought that werewolves would be operating on the human sides predictability which became apparant after the first few days.... So if there was a random element in the human side, which was totally unpredictable, I figured, I would be that random element! Calm one moment, hysterically emotional the next... My idea was it would confuse the werewolves and my own side... neither side would know how to interact with me, the big danger for me was the lynch vote! lol But I managed to dodge that anyway!

Face it guys! I'm the hero of this game! :yeah:

*Realises I will be the first to be shot in the next game regardless! lol*

mookiemookie
02-17-09, 02:34 PM
In the original rules, there is no reason ever for two guardians to provide mutual protection, as that’s a guarantee of them both being killed. For some reason Mookie and AVSM decided to do just that, but I can’t fathom why. That’s just a recipe (under the original rules) for a double killing by a hellhound.
We knew (or at least were reasonably certain) the hellhound(s) was(were) dead and so the only wolves left were regular ones. Now I thought to myself that if I was a wolf, I'd go for the guardians first. So I wanted to prevent that, so me and AVSM made a deal to protect each other. Then I wanted the wolves to think that since we were protecting each other, the other humans were unprotected. So the next night I switched over to protecting Penelope because I figured she would be pretty high on the hit list at the end there. The strategy worked. :cool:

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 03:28 PM
Yep, kudos to Nisgeis, he really suckered me in right up to the last minute. The only time I started wondering was at the very end when Penelope was so confident that you were it.

This was as much fun as the games of Mafia I've played with friends, great work Neal. :yeah:

So when's the next game? :lol:


Thanks man, appreciate that. I figure we should wait a few weeks or a month and give people time to reflect and rest. I'm not claiming "ownership" rights over this game concept here at Subsim, so if someone wants to start his own game, more power to you. All I ask is that any RP games here be a serious effort, not some half assed game where it gets screwed up or the game master blows it off half way through....I don't want people getting burned and killing the whole RP concept here.

I nominate Mookie and Nisgeis to gamemaster the next game, they have both expressed an interest, they are both serious players, and I think they know what they are about, and can be trusted to run a fair game.

Neal

Letum
02-17-09, 03:34 PM
I agree. Lets wait at least a month.
Good things are better in moderation.

Hitman
02-17-09, 03:41 PM
but he didn't know if I was a wolf or not, did you Hits?

I did not know it positively, but I believed you were human, may be a Seer. That's the reason I placed you in the centre of "the mother of all lies" :haha:

Eventually you could have been a wolf, and then you would have probably resplied like that to my PM so we could make an alliance, but the chance was very remote and I needed to get out of the game. In fact when I saw that some people even started believing in my lie I thought internally OMG :o I'm stuck here till monday :damn:

Your PM about Jimbuna being a wolf and not a seer had the hint of a suspect against me, but I think you were still doubting. A different reply from me could have turned things, but I would have needed to be very very precise, convincing and give you very good fake data, as otherwise it wouldn't have withstood the filter of your implacable sixth instinct and I would have been in trouble again :haha:

The only thing that worried me after exchanging some PMs with you is that you were replying very seriously, while I had been already evidently in joking mode so I thought myself weeeee is she going to think that I'm in real life a psychopat or a role-player or is she believing too deep in his own role??? :o I even thought about sending you another PM commenting that, but finally thought it would be better to let it go and not add more confusion in that moment.

Face it guys! I'm the hero of this game! :yeah:


Didn't I tell you that beautiful ladies always win? ;)

Jimbuna
02-17-09, 04:13 PM
Didn't I tell you that beautiful ladies always win? ;)

You'd better believe it.....but to be totally honest some of the Grey Wolves aren't even sure that Penelope Grey is a woman. :hmmm:

Monica Lewinsky being a classic example :DL

....and don't get me on about the investigative powers/capabilities of record collation by the British Bobby :rotfl:

Penelope_Grey
02-17-09, 04:59 PM
Thanks man, appreciate that. I figure we should wait a few weeks or a month and give people time to reflect and rest. I'm not claiming "ownership" rights over this game concept here at Subsim, so if someone wants to start his own game, more power to you. All I ask is that any RP games here be a serious effort, not some half assed game where it gets screwed up or the game master blows it off half way through....I don't want people getting burned and killing the whole RP concept here.

I nominate Mookie and Nisgeis to gamemaster the next game, they have both expressed an interest, they are both serious players, and I think they know what they are about, and can be trusted to run a fair game.

Neal
Can we use vampires next time?

Then after that aliens (the outer space variety):yeah:

Seriously, was a super fun game! Loads of fun!

Oberon
02-17-09, 05:10 PM
Nazi vampires, Nazi vampires...

Ah yes

http://www.mouse.cl/2005/guiaweb/09/08/bloodrayne_04.jpg

Well, that's your character sorted Pen! :shucks:

We'd have to have daywalkers though, otherwise it'd be a bit easy to spot the vampires ;)

Penelope_Grey
02-17-09, 05:21 PM
You know originally I was so hopeful to be a werewolf, or even the hellhound... but then I got to be human and I felt somewhat cheated initially... I even PM'd to Neal to moan... but the more I thought about it, the more I figured.. ah well! Lets try it out.

baggygreen
02-17-09, 05:39 PM
A woman complaining?

:hmmm:

nevahhh:O:

Aramike
02-17-09, 05:42 PM
Aramike - I fooled and confused hook line and sinker, he gave himself away to me too. :) He also suffers from being a Hellhound of his word too. HA! I was never really confused ... you were just one of the people I had feelers out for in my attempts to find a fellow wolf.

Sailor Steve
02-17-09, 05:45 PM
I thought if I confuse both sides to the point where they can't be sure of my being human or not I can learn a lot. High risk, but big reward.:D
As a casual reader of the story I was confused too. It seemed to me a bit of "methinks she doth protest too much". Had I been playing I probably would have voted to lynch you every time. I was that sure you were hiding something.

Great story, all, and well played.

I do have one question for Neal, though: Why the forced vote every night? I would have thought that letting them play it out on their own would have been better.

But then I've never been very good at role-playing.

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 06:34 PM
I do have one question for Neal, though: Why the forced vote every night? I would have thought that letting them play it out on their own would have been better.



The game doesn't work without active participation. Also, there were several players who decided their strategy was "don't vote unless I have to, and then only after I see which way everyone else has gone". Well, that's great unless everyone takes that tactic, then the game grinds to a halt.

Jimbuna
02-17-09, 07:08 PM
I do have one question for Neal, though: Why the forced vote every night? I would have thought that letting them play it out on their own would have been better.



The game doesn't work without active participation. Also, there were several players who decided their strategy was "don't vote unless I have to, and then only after I see which way everyone else has gone". Well, that's great unless everyone takes that tactic, then the game grinds to a halt.

Agreed....you did well sir :up:

NealT
02-17-09, 08:08 PM
Absolutely he did...I don't know if anyone could have done better.

I sure know I couldn't.

:yeah:

StdDev
02-17-09, 08:51 PM
Can we use vampires next time?

Then after that aliens (the outer space variety):yeah:

Seriously, was a super fun game! Loads of fun!

Nazi vampires, Nazi vampires...

Ah yes


How about....

KILLER TOMATOES ? :D

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 09:13 PM
Oh my god, I actually saw that movie. Twice. WHY????

And Neal, I just noticed that you haven't updated the Vanvikan map with all the deaths. :D

Onkel Neal
02-17-09, 10:09 PM
Haha, have you updated and reposted your super-summary? :O:

A Very Super Market
02-17-09, 10:15 PM
I'm working on it. I swear! :O:

I'm also writing a character list. Based on what everyone wrote out. This is really bad for my homework mark, but its a lot more interesting!

Onkel Neal
02-18-09, 12:00 AM
I see you have updated it, why not repost it here on page 13 too :)

You are so cruel to point out my typo :wah:

Also, something did happen on the Day 7 lynching, it was a tie, with two no shows :haha: I fell to my desk weeping. :wah:


Final map of the slaughter

http://www.subsim.com/werewolf/1_1wer8.jpg

Did I miss anyone??


Also, found the narrative where I slipped some Churchillian prose into our barmaid's speech (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1046975&postcount=731) (the part in italics):



No words were spoken for a time, then Penelope raised her chin. “We are not beaten yet. We have paid a heavy toll to the Devil, but we must learn to be equally good at what is short and sharp and what is long and tough. There will be no flinching and no thought of giving in; and by what will seem almost a miracle to those outside this village, though we ourselves never doubted it, we now find ourselves in a position where I say that we can be sure that we have only to persevere to conquer.”
She turned and walked off the pier in a measured stride to the village path.
Mookie turned and looked at Nisgeis. “We had better pick wisely today.”



As for the question about Firewall being killed on the U-13, I mentioned the hatches were closed.
Feb. 14, 1945 07:10
As the early morning sun brought its consoling light to the village of Vanvikan, Penelope and Mookie met Leutnant zur See Nisgeis at the pier. Neither side presented a comforting face.
“We lost Oberon last night,” said Mookie.
Penelope’s eyes were red and weary. “He was so determined to get to the bottom of this, to understand its nature. Now he’s gone.”
“We were attacked last night as well,” said Nisgeis. Kapt. Jimbuna ordered all men to stay on U-13 and he buttoned the hatches directly after yesterday’s execution.”
Penelope gasped, “You mean to say—“
“—ja, the beast found its way into the boat. Either he is one among us or someone let him in. Seaman Firewall was ripped to pieces in the after torpedo room. The audacity of such an attack has left Kapt. Jimbuna in a shock. Firewall was like a son to him.” He turned and looked back the U-boat tied up at the sea buoy. Seaman Aramike on the bridge raised his arm and Nisgeis returned the gesture.
“What time did the attack take place?” asked Mookie.
“Only an hour before dawn. The blood is still fresh.”
“Oberon was heard screaming for his life at midnight. There is six hours difference.”

Yeah, there were four werewolves on U-13 at that point in time, Nisgeis, Firewall, Aramike (HH) and Task Force. Hitman did not attack that night, but as the narrative suggested, the hatch was opened, not to let a werewolf in, but to let a couple out to attack in the village.

SandyCaesar
02-18-09, 01:04 AM
Hmm. I'd always thought that Jimbuna moved his boat further out to sea sometime...:hmmm:

A Very Super Market
02-18-09, 01:09 AM
For dark humour points, you could put the lynching pole in the school playground. :D

Also, I love how the graveyard is practically overfilling with crosses. :rotfl:

Anyways... Ta-Daaaaaa! The finished super-post! Version 1. I could add stuff if anyone wants to.

Day 0 (Before the thread started)
Gus -- Town officer -- Ripped apart by "something"

Neal's hard-coded activities on Day 1
Escape is impossible, all players are cut off from Trondheim.
Gus found by fuel tanks
Existing animosity between military personnel and townspeople

Player's activities
No one cares enough to not drink themselves silly, except for Penelope_Grey who is disgusted by the lack of concern, and especially fed up with Firewall who makes a fool of himself in the corner.
Oberst Chad doesn't really do anything.
SandyCaesar returns from fishing to find a much more melancholy village, but still goes to the pub for a drink
Letum and UnderseaLcpl discuss things without tripping over their own words.
Chad quickly regains control of the situation and issues orders.
Task Force ambles over to the bar/inn. Half the town is there already.
NealT acts like a stereotypical fisherman
Laufen zum Ziel is the first to actually start playing the game and cast suspicions, mostly involving SandyCaesar
Weiss Pinguin wakes up with a hangover
A Very Super Market scares himself silly and hides in the inn bathroom
Raptor1 inspects the submarine
Absolutely nothing accomplished on Day 1

Night 1
Firewall remarks on Task Force's random wanderings
A Very Super Market misses guard duty
Mayor Contact goes home
Xabbarus, Letum, JCwolf, lesrae, Oberon, Raptor1 are all at the bar, which is promptly closed by Penelope_Grey
Jimbuna appears and inspects his men, then goes to bed.
Hauptmann Hitman reports to the Oberst
Business is done by the Guardians, Seers and Werewolves.
Raptor1 is found disintegrated into many pieces
Letum is tangled in the wire, comatose and beaten

Day 2

Nokia wakes up to find the state of chaos the town is in, then promptly accused by Penelope_Grey
Laufen zum Ziel begins to question why Letum has inexplicably survived
And inspection of Letum brings no clear results.
The werewolf "myths" are starting to be announced
mookiemookie is beginning to suspect the camp personnel
The men start to contemplate bringing hand grenades with them on patrol

Day 2 lynching
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall
Firewall votes for Jimbuna
A Very Super Market votes for Letum, then changes is it to Contact after some prodding from Chad, who also votes for Contact
Oberon votes for NealTthen also changes to Contact
SandyCaesar suprises the town with a vote for Contact
Laufen zum Ziel votes for Nokia
Hitman votes for Contact with a fake seer report. Absolutely no one (Maybe Penelope did) notices, and he lives until Day 5. Oops
XabbaRus votes for Nokia
UnderseaLcpl votes for Contact
NealT votes for Penelope_Grey who quickly denies it.
Contact attempts to defend himself by calling to lynch Chad
mookiemookie also suprises his fellow Norwegians by voting for Contact
Gorduz suddenly pops out of nowhere and votes Contact
Jimbuna votes to euthanize Letum and doesn't change his vote
Fincuan defends his captain's honour by voting Firewall

And obviously, Contact was found guilty and executed. Only after did we discover that he was a Guardian.

Rest of Day 2
Raptor1's spirit returns to inject some roleplaying.

Night 2
Fincuan and Laufen zum Ziel are found disembodied near the Eastern watch tower
Nokia is found with a makeshift tracheotomy
I think this is the night when I turned into a Guardian-Seer. And then I lost it next night. *Sigh

Day 3
Oberon fishes around a well for, um, no reason in particular, and finds Lesrae's dead, deceased corpse. Suicide, most likely, because he was still in one piece. Oberon also fixes the broken searchlight and fortifies the east tower. Oberon does more work than anyone 'round here
JCwolf types several essays of his ramblings, and describes his dreams, conflict, and inner emotion in an act of brilliance that no one really compliments. Oh well. He is rather suspicious though.
The camp personnel begin to suspect Gorduz who's only appearance during the day is described by Jimbuna
Weiss Pinguin stops drinking his milk. I need to include him somehow
UnderseaLcpl begins to examine lesrae determining that he is dead and shot. Letum lies lonely in the corner, deprived of blood due to the Sergeant Major forgetting that type-O would be fine for any tranfusion.
Task Force is hard at work trying to repair the boat.
Raptor1 returns once again to tell Task Force of his mechanical mistakes. Raptor1 also forgets to mention who killed him. Raptor1 is doing a poor job at being dead.
Jimbuna also decides to scare the dickens out of his crew. The brass in this town are not exactly "Up-and-at-'em"
Like Chad who hasn't posted any orders. Whoop, never mind, he quickly figures out beforehand that lesrae was missing.

Day 3 Lynching
UnderseaLcpl starts it off with a vote for the ever-absent Gorduz
XabbaRus does the obvious thing, and votes for JCwolf. That's not dramatic!
mookiemookie also votes JCwolf
Aramike abstains. Like a wuss. Not really, it was a good choice. But it's not like somebody won't get lynched, people!
Stabiz votes for UnderseaLcpl
Oberon questions Firewall's wherabouts, but decides on Gorduz
JCwolf votes for Firewall for very unclear reasons, then Gorduz still for very unclear reasons.
Task Force gives in to his suspicions, and votes JCwolf
Penelope_Grey votes for Firewall but realizes that he didn't mess up the bar today, and changes to Letum
NealT votes for JCwolf
Nisgeis votes for Penelope_Grey
Chad votes for Gorduz
SandyCaesar abstains, and expresses his disbelief that Letum is a werewolf.
A Very Super Market votes for Gorduz, but makes his displeasure at guard duty very obvious whilst doing so. He also points out a plot error. Neal is presumably displeased
Hitman votes Gorduz
Firewall votes NealT
Gorduz appears and votes JCwolf
Weiss Pinguin votes Gorduz
Jimbuna once again votes to euthanize Letum

And obviously, Gorduz is executed, though by who we don't know. It is revealed that he took poor care of his teeth, or had parents with unfortunate orthodontic situations. At least he wasn't a guardian.

Rest of Day 3
Letum wakes up, causing A Very Super Market to faint, then wakes up again, then gets scared of the fortified tower, then runs to the infirmary, then faints again when he sees the previously comatose, but still in-pain Letum.
UnderseaLcpl and JCwolf reach Letum before that, and attempt to calm him down.
And mookiemookie does that as well.
The evening is basically centered on Letum
Chad and A Very Super Market spend the night in the officers mess. Its nice. There is a lot of Dr. Pepper, as well as Letum's patrol report.


Night 3
Looks like we were wrong about everything, or maybe just unlucky. 4 deaths
JCwolf and UnderseaLcpl are in the infirmary or something. Oh yeah, and they're dead. Can't forget that
NealT is found outside the enlisted bunks, dead. Obviously
Stabiz is dead. He actually died first, but no one was even mentioned his death in the thread yet. Weird. And suspicious...

Day 4
Brits and Spaniards do their stuff. I miss it all, and have to read 5 pages of text (including a huge speech by Penelope_Grey) at 6:00 in the morning. I wish I didn't post that motivating message about waking up.
Oberon gets to work early (As always) and quickly finds the bodies. Then, he forgets about them and goes to the school. Oh, no reason.
A Very Super Market wakes up, smells the corpse of NealT and runs outside. His shoes are now covered in blood. Those werewolves need to clean up after themselves! Then, he runs to the infirmary, where there is even more blood. Weird how the werewolf killed the guardian and buff Sergeant Major, but not half-dead Letum. Very strange indeed...
Penelope_Grey and Oberon talk, apparently forgetting about the bodies that Super Market is crapping himself over.
Hitman hides his glee, and inspects the camp. And laps up some leftover blood. Eugh...
mookiemookie makes a lewd comment, then returns to normal.
Letum goes crazy, and then votes for himself. Gah! Stop being crazy! It doesn't help when we shoot you and you aren't even a wolf!
Chad informs the rest of the town of the news. Most are unimpressed. Ungrateful Norwegians....
Nisgeis pops up and votes for Letum. What an opportunist.
Oberon resigns from the army, so he can actually play the game and not just RP like crazy. And he votes Aramike anyways, so the resignation was pointless.
Penelope_Grey makes one of her big speeches. There will be many more to come...
Town Crier makes his first appearance, and stresses everyone to the breaking point. I blame it all on him!
Aramike runs into the bar, drunk. With the blood of UnderseaLcpl and JCwolf. Hellhounds are scary guys...
Another opportunist! Task Force runs to the bar and votes Letum, then disappears again. And reappears, voting Penelope_Grey
mookiemookie votes for Hitman. His posts are just not inherently funny. Makes my job tough enough...
Chad votes to euthanize Letum. I doubt he knows what is going on, but his No. 2 sure does...
XabbaRus abstains from killing anyone. Except himself. Which he will. And all over Oberon's newspaper too...
Task Force has stirred the hornet's nest. Penelope_Grey immediately changes her vote to Task Force, and vows to kill him. She actually won't get him, but his death is pretty funny.
Town Crier depresses XabbaRus to the point of suicide, blowing his brains out like I mentioned earlier. Neal Stevens claims another victim...
Task Force lets Letum go! He runs off somewhere, while madly shouting his vote for Penelope_Grey. No doubt Task Force's work, but its very entertaining to say the least.
Aramike wakes up from his blood drunkeness long enought to abstain. Gosh, the hellhound is a terror by night, but a bore-fest by day.
Weiss Pinguin overhears Letum's crazyness, decides that he can't take it anymore, and vote for him.
Neal Stevens himself (Came down from the heavens, not the hovel) posts a list of the votes, and briefly ressurects stabiz, who then promptly dies, because it was a mistake. Poor stabiz hasn't even been mentioned in the thread after his death.
Task Force goes crazy too, and basically announces his werewolf-hood by running off into the woods screaming. Uh... he contemplates a scenario where he joined the luftwaffe. It wouldn't be very different, only he'd be chasing people around in planes as a werewolf. Actually, that sounds like an excellent B-movie idea, I am so calling the MST3K crew...
Letum... talks to dead people. In a way that's similar to Haley Joel Osment, but significantly less cute. Because he is talking to their corpses.
Oberon changes his vote to Task Force for very clear reasons, as does mookiemookie
Jimbuna votes for Letum as he had done for so long.
A Very Super Market (pre-insanity) refuses to vote, on the grounds that it would make him a target to the hellhound. He tells no one about it though.

And so, Letum is bound to the lynching pole, and promptly hanged. Because he wasn't a werewolf. No word on how exactly we found him, but its best not to question the Neal. Anyways, it was fairly pointless.

Night 4
Task Force is revealed to be a werewolf, but another one eats him. I was suprised too. No word on who ate him, but I assume that Neal felt bad for the humans and broke the rules to kill a werewolf.
Chad is guarded by A Very Super Market who is in turn guarded by mookiemookie a hellhound attempts to eat them all, but only gets the colonel. Lovely, we've lost more leadership, no matter the actual number of people who listen to him. Which numbers to like, 2 people.
SandyCaesar is out on his boat. Even normal wolves can swim. You know what comes after. Odd how no one on the U-boot notices the guttural screams in Norwegian, or how the watch officers can possibly not see it happen.

Day 5
More drama from the Brits. Hitman is a Spaniard, but he is also a werewolf. Oops, did I spoil the ending already? Sorry. Either way, I miss it all, and can only vote Aramike after everyone does their stuff.
Nisgeis votes for A Very Super Market, which freaks the bejeezus out of me, but changes to Hitman. I'm relieved. Alright, real news.
Hitman (Who's a wolf btw) attempts to lose suspicion by pulling stuff out of his arse. Its very believable, but everyone is pretty sure he is a wolf now. He also votes Jimbuna
Oberon takes a nice walk in the forest and finds Task Force's remains. He doesn't realize that it is a werewolf's remains, but its okay, TF is dead.
Weiss Pinguin hears the news from... some nameless seaman (Neal, how come there are so many random people that don't die?) Sandycaesar is not even named, so I bet his ghost is real happy.
Penelope_Grey suspects Jimbuna. Just another day...
Neal Stevens (AKA Mr. Divine Being) uses his annoying alter-ego of the Town Crier to update the death list. I hate that guy already. We should lynch him, but no one ever does...
Jimbuna rapidly defends himself by accusing everybody else. Then he votes Penelope_Grey. Like that hasn't happened before.
Penelope_Grey makes no huge essay, and votes Hitman. She actually has a very solid reason for doing that, but I didn't know until later. So it was very suspicious. But part of her plan. I'm really not working hard enough in this game.
Weiss Pinguin defendeth me from Nisgeis. I'm fairly certain that Nisgeis is a wolf now, for the painfully strange guardian lynching accusations.
Aramike (Monsieur 'Ell'Ound) votes Hitman, perhaps thinking we just got it wrong again. I dunno, we should ask him.
Hitman reveals himself to be an aristocrat. Weird, I thought he made a post early on about his character being a 1WO. Oh well
Sandycaesar arrive from the grave to make a comment thats actually within context. It mentions Hitman pretending to be a seer on Day 1. Even I missed that.
A Very Super Market votes for Aramike. In hindsight, that was a really bad move, but he doesn't go after me. Phew.

And so, Hitman is shot many times, without dying. Did we have a backup plan? Yes. Silver met heart in a touching encounter, and the evil werewolf fell to the ground. Dead. I didn't need to mention that did I?

Rest of Day 5
Everyone (Well, sorta) is happy that a Werewolf finally died.
Weiss Pinguin attempts to confuse me by "admitting" to have been attacked. My brain melted for a while at that point.
FIREWALL has disappeared for while. Not sure where he is, but he will die soon. He is also a werewolf. Things don't look do good right now...

Night 5
In a significantly shorter description (:P), Oberon and FIREWALL are dead. Nisgeis killed FIREWALL, as well as Task Force, so it really is just bad luck. Better for the humans I guess. Oberon was not a wolf though, and I am saddened by his death. Now no one will fortify the watch tower even further. I can't do anything, my nerves have gone to pieces.

Day 6
Jimbuna is blissfully unaware of FIREWALL being a werewolf. Or maybe he is, and he is RPing well.
A Very Super Market snaps (Finally) and votes for Aramike 8 hours ahead of schedule. I was more than a bit tired that day.
Jimbuna half-accuses me. The nerve! Then he makes a comment about Nokia's name. The rascal! Then he talks with Penelope_Grey in private. That scoundrel! But he isn't a werewolf, so I let it sliiiide.
Weiss Pinguin moseys down over to the bar, and is immediately threatened by Penelope_Grey. With a knife. Presumably, he's terrified. I am too. Weird how XabbaRus is allowed to shoot himself (In a crowded are, no less) but we can't just stab whoever we think is a wolf.
Aramike tries to escape his execution by accusing me. He's wrong on a lot of counts, since I spent more time hiding in my tower than interrogating people.
mookiemookie votes for Aramike. I can't really make fun of his post. :(
Penelope_Grey shows everyone her ambition to become rich and develops her character. To me, it just seems like asking Neal to strike you down for dramatic purposes. Actually, that would be pretty cool.
Nisgeis makes the funniest post in a long time, and I have to quote it
"This is like this game of chess, except you don't know what the pieces are, where they are or how they move, there's also no board and you're wearing boxing gloves. And it's pitch black. And you're dead"
Jimbuna goes outside and farts. I was worrying about him for a while, then I realized that in Brit time, it was 12:00. Understandable. Then he votes Aramike. Hoorays!
Nisgeis votes Aramike. Its a smart choice, since there is no saving him now, but he is still distrusted. He is also technically late. And fashionably late as well. Being a werewolf is tough on your clothes y'know, and Nisgeis knows how to present himself well.

And so, Aramike is strung up, shot a few times, then silver bulleted. A touching monologue is delivered, perhaps ruined only by the lingering stench of Jimbuna's fart. I'm not sure how Aramike went through a whole patrol without going werewolf and killing the U-boot, but maybe he was just too tired to or something.

Night 6
Jimbuna and Penelope_Grey discuss for a while, then retire.
One of the lesser ones (:P) comes to pay a visit. The combined force of the dead guys' ghosts drives him off. On the ground, we HEAR NOTHING, SEE NOTHING, and KNOW NOTHING!!!
Weiss Pinguin writes a post that could be easily misconstrued. OR easily understood! The fiend!
Oh, and no one dies. A shocker, I know. Nisgeis was attacking guardians. I thought it was pretty obvious that mookiemookie and I were undefeatable right now, but experimentation is how progress is made, huh?

Day 7
The posts have decreased quite a bit. Mostly because the most rampant posters had been killed off. Except Jimbuna! Oh, I kid, I kid.
Weiss Pinguin makes himself a target. Thats a really bad thing. What were you thinking mate? He also gets a werewolf on his side. It isn't helping. Later, he votes Penelope_Grey. Good drama, but I worry for him
Penelope_Grey quickly pounces (Werewolf pun!) and votes Weiss Pinguin. Danger zone! Danger zone!
Jimbuna misunderstands my comment on the Town Crier, and accuses him but doesn't vote. Weiss Pinguin, that is. That Town Crier should be lynched though...
Task Force intrudes, and Jimbuna tells him off. The meanie! He still hasn't voted too, so its maddeningly frustrating.
Nisgeis votes Penelope_Grey no idea why he doesn't just kill Pinguin or someone during the night, since he won't have anyone guarding him.
mookiemookie saves Penelope_Grey by voting Weiss Pinguin. Methinks Jimbuna was going to do that 1 minute before the lynching.
Oh, and Jimbuna burns Mrs. Jimbuna's foot. Significant problems will ensue, I believe.
A Very Super Market misses the vote completely. Just as well, since I would have voted Weiss Pinguin, but we still would have won.

And so, the lynching pole lies dejected, saddened by the lack of company it had enjoyed so happily the last 5 days.

Night 7
Nothing happens. Again. BORING ME SO MUCH. I will use this space to point out a typo by Neal, exaberated by his using of large font
"One hour until Night, note now!!"
His exact words, ladies and gentlemen. :P

Day 8
We is all happy from the not dying. Except for me. I spent the night in the tower again. I'm starving. I think I would have died after the game ended.
Town Crier once again crawls from his hole to post up a notice.
Weiss Pinguin votes for me. I hear him. I am displeased. He really isn't making things better for himself by voting to lynch a guardian.
Penelope_Grey vehemently accuses Nisgeis, then changes to Nisgeis. It was a weird occurence.
Jimbuna doesn't vote. Again. The cheat!
mookiemookie votes for Weiss Pinguin. Then he votes Nisgeis. IS THIS INDECISION? Nope, just wanting to end it already.
Jimbuna lives for action, and votes for Weiss Pinguin. This is getting ridiculous.
But A Very Super Market saves the day! I swoop in and vote Nisgeis, ruining the werewolf's plans, as well as Jim's. Mwahaha

And so, Neal scares the pee out of me with the scariest image he has posted yet. Jimbuna is missing. Penelope has locked herself up. I'm still completely off my rocker. Weiss Pinguin and mookiemookie are the only executioners. Luckily, Nisgeis is perfectly resigned to his fate, and goes willingly. Neal's will, most likely. The shots ring out, and everyone is satisfied. It seems that the rest of the village and U-boot have been asleep this whole time, but it undoubtedly wakes them up, and they will be curious to know why 22 of them are dead. And why there is no garrison. Presumably, chaos erupts, and Neal chuckles at what a morbid ending he has written.

And thats it! :salute: