IJN Submarines blueprints : in dire need of detailed ones

[keltos01]

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6124/blueprintjbpartialloweh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/blueprintjbpartialloweh9.jpg/1/w1620.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img78/blueprintjbpartialloweh9.jpg/1/)

This advertisement page of the "The Maru Special - Japanese Naval Vessels - #31" p.3 shows a very detailed blueprint of part of a Jyunsen B, namely the forward part of the tower and hull.

I haven't found the whole blueprint anywhere :nope:

can anyone translate what it says ? (Yattky ?), maybe there's a hint as to where to find the whole blueprint ?

I am also in dire need of good detailed blueprint of Kaidai (1 through 3) submarines, as well as I-47 (C2 class) submarine.

Keltos

[keltos01]

I TRIED TO TRANSLATE THE COVER OF THE JAPANESE MAGAZINE....
SORRY FOR MY POOR ENGLISH!

The title→JAPANESE SUBMARINES I, "MARU" SPECIAL NO.31 (THIS MAGAZINE "MARU" IS ISSUED AS A MILITARY MAGAZINE HERE.)
NEXT
I-TYPE KO CLASS JAPANESE SUB, EXPLANATION WITH PHOTOGRAPHS
I-TYPE OTSU CLASS JAPANESE SUB, EXPLANATION WITH PHOTOGRAPHS
SUBMANRINES AND RADIO
PROFILES OF 96TYPE AND ZERO TYPE SCOUT PLANE CARRIED ON SUBS
HISTORY OF JYUNSEN, KO, OTSU CLASS WITH CHARTS
CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE OF BATTLE ACTIONS OF JYUNSEN, KO, OTSU CLASS SUBS
EXPLANATION WITH PHOTOS OF JYUNSEN I TYPE SUBS
HULL STRUCTURES OF SUBS
BOARDING FACILITIES OF SCOUT PLANES ON I-TYPE SUBS
LET'S MAKE (BUILD?) I-TYPE SUBS
EXPLANATION WITH PHOTOS OF JYUNSEN II TYPE SUBS
EXPLANATION WITH PHOTOS OF JYUNSEN III TYPE SUBS
---------------------------------------------------------
SUBS PRINTED HERE IN:
KO CLASS (I-9CLASS)/OTSU CLASS (I-54 CLASS, I-52CLASS)/HEI CLASS (I-46 CLASS, I-52CLASS, I-16CLASS)
JYUNSEN I TYPE, II TYPE AND III TYPE

THAT'S ALL.
HOPE THESE HELP YOU.
B.RGDS
YATTKY

[tater]

http://www.ijn.dreamhost.com/Reference/Reference%20-%20List%20of%20Plans%20-%20Submarine.htm

[keltos01]

links are broken :(

k

[DeepIron]

Perhaps contacting him directly through the link on his site might yield some results? :hmm:

[tater]

There is a japanese guy that sells detailed prints to modelers.

[keltos01]

the why :

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3862/starboardpu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Perhaps contacting him directly through the link on his site might yield some results? :hmm:

done it this morning..

@Tater : who ??

[tater]

I was coming across his stuff every single search---now I cannot find it, lol.

[tater]

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/miyukikai/

[tater]

Once again, edit is not working for me.

Was gonna say that guy's site is horrible to navigate, particularly in english :)

[tater]

No SS plans. (damn lack of edit functionality)

[keltos01]

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/677/blueprinti14vb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://jpimg.digital.archives.go.jp/jpg_prg/jgmWeb.dll?TmpFileDisp4?si=0&md=0&ql=10&env=jpeg2k_images/drawing/igo_014/001_e.env&l=4&cy=2268&cx=11320&dy=800&dx=1200&i=lossy/kouseisai/drawing/igo_014/hak68001000.jp2&file=temp_drawing_e.html

I wish there were more of those around... this is the kind of quality I meant when I said I'd like detailed blueprints..

If anyone knows of any other, post here or pm me please.

keltos

main page :

http://jpimg.digital.archives.go.jp/kouseisai/category/drawing/igo_014_e.html

[herrmill]

Am seeking plans myself as well for any B & C Type for use in converting the Lindberg 1/72 subs that are due to be released in several months.

We've got a few guys over at SubPirates working on this as well so I'll pass along anything we find.

Chuck

[keltos01]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8477/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg/1/w1699.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img264/internethobbies20421454ok3.jpg/1/)

Sorry but for the Jyunsen B I only have afew pictures and the part of the blueprint seen here above. This model lacks the rear top rudder ! only the guard is there...

beautiful model(s) as there is also the I-53. I would ask them where they got their blueprints from , wouldn't you ?

or is it just made from photographic evidence ?

Didn't the Navy extensively study those boat prior to scuttling them ? being an archaeologist myself I can't imagine they didn't draw them ?

keltos

[keltos01]

1944 handbook :

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8797/onii15fs1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[/URL]


[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6969/jbplanewatersb3.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/onii15fs1.jpg/1/)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/jbplanewatersb3.jpg/1/w970.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img22/jbplanewatersb3.jpg/1/)
found in the book I-400

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/960/i400seiranom4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/383/i400copiesg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7169/i400crewyy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/i400crewyy9.jpg/1/w1393.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img240/i400crewyy9.jpg/1/)

[tater]

You might ask at j-aircraft (they have a naval forum).

[keltos01]

You might ask at j-aircraft (they have a naval forum).

do you have a direct link ? couldn't find the naval forum...

thanks,

keltos

[tater]

http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?board=5.0

[Tempest555]

Questions been asked.
http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?topic=7087.30

But these blue prints while around are not always in public hands. The I400 blueprint was returned from US archives. I suspect the archives from the industrial companies that built the subs will have plans. But don't hold your breath expecting to get anything from them.

[keltos01]

http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?board=5.0

Thanks !

but there aren't any pictures visible until you are logged in ? I'm still awaiting approval...


keltos

[herrmill]

Have already been down that road & been in contact with Lindberg-Hawk's owner, Ernie Petit. He advised only that they obtained most of their reference material from USN sources but that's as specific as it gets. Based on they're having to make last minute changes to their tooling - release is postponed another two months - I wouldn't be surprised if they cobbled it together from photos & whatever they could get their hands on. No wonder there aren't any aftermarket guys interested in turning out kits for these beasts.

I tend to agree that their should be drawings available if they haven't been passed back from the National Archives.

Totally forgot about J-aircraft & will spend some time tonight doing some digging.

Thanks gentlemen! :up:

Chuck

[keltos01]

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6931/bclassblueprintswj9ha7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/bclassblueprintswj9ha7.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/bclassblueprintswj9ha7.jpg/1/)

this is the best I got,

uploaded a pack with pictures and stuff on my Filefront page including the blueprint here above:

http://files.filefront.com/postersrar/;13307104;/fileinfo.html

Keltos

[keltos01]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/700/i201blueprintcopy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ-200G-0663-0694%20Report%20S-01-6.pdf

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9144/i201ra.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/i201ra.jpg/)



http://www.worldweapons.eu/1-Warships/Japan/10-SS/1945%20-%20STS/index_warships_draw_japan_ss-ha201.htm

keltos

[keltos01]

IJN Kaidai type 7 submarine :

26 December 1942:
The I-178 is completed at Mitsubishi's Kobe Yard, commissioned in the IJN and based in the Sasebo Naval District. Cdr Utsuki Hidejiro (former CO of I-5) is the Commanding Officer.

The I-178 is assigned to the Kure SubRon with the I-177, RO-106 and the RO-107.


Developed from the KD6 type, these attack submarines had an endurance of 75 days. Differences from the earlier type include concentration of all tubes forward, and slightly improved operating depth. The most notable naval successes by this class were both achieved by I-176. I-176 damaged cruiser USS Chester off Guadalcanal on 2 October 1942, preventing her from participating in the Battle of the Eastern Solomons and the First Battle of Guadalcanal. That boat also sank USS Corvina patrolling off of Truk on 16 November 1943. Polmar and Carpenter state that was the only instance of a Japanese submarine sinking a US submarine.

Seven of these boats were sunk within one year after commissioning, and all ten of these boats were lost by October, 1944. I-176, I-177, I-180, I-181, and I-185 were all sunk by American Destroyers in 1944, while I-182 had a similar fate a year earlier. Also in 1943, I-178 became one of very few submarines sunk by a submarine chaser, and I-179 was lost when a hatch was left open during a training dive, less than a month after completion. I-183 was sunk by USS Pogy (SS266) in home waters in April, 1944. I-184 was sunk by depth bombs dropped by an aircraft from USS Suwanee on 19 June 1944. These boats were originally numbered I-76, I-77, etc. They were renumbered in 1942.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_kd7.htm

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5050/i178blueprintsidetoplow.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i178blueprintsidetoplow.jpg)



http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5421/i178blueprintsectionlow.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i178blueprintsectionlow.jpg)


The side and top view I usually found here on the web, the cross-section views I never had before !
Thanks to Rubenandthejets who provided me with a few books, including the one these two blueprints come from :

Ships of the World 1963, 2, n°66, pp. 76-77.

Keltos

[keltos01]

I need the I-47 C2 class blueprint, she has 8 fore tubes and I'd like to mod her.

keltos

[keltos01]

anyone ?

keltos

[tater]

When I ever see IJN SS stuff, I think of you and bookmark it. No dice lately.

[keltos01]

When I ever see IJN SS stuff, I think of you and bookmark it. No dice lately.

I know you do Tater :up: and thanks for that !

keltos

[keltos01]

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3751/44808611.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/44808611.jpg/)


http://rarebook.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/hiraga/

found by Akula :

http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?topic=8065.0


this site has many blueprints and stuff unfortunately for me, I couldn't get google to translate what I wanted ie IJN submarines... but I saw the Kongo etc...


keltos

[Admiral Von Gerlach]

wow, Keltos you have found a LOT.

sorry to be late to the party.

OK, what subs do you need? I know a retired USN officer here in my town who was there at the scuttling of the I 400s and was on some of the other boats, i can try asking him..... if you have specific boats you need.

I can also ask at the Nimitz Museum, they were kind enough to reply a while ago on records and info.

will do what i can.

[keltos01]

wow, Keltos you have found a LOT.

sorry to be late to the party.

OK, what subs do you need? I know a retired USN officer here in my town who was there at the scuttling of the I 400s and was on some of the other boats, i can try asking him..... if you have specific boats you need.

I can also ask at the Nimitz Museum, they were kind enough to reply a while ago on records and info.

will do what i can.

YES !! any intel and direct contact would be appreciated !

pm me about it

keltos

[keltos01]

anyh news ?

[Admiral Von Gerlach]

sorry Keltos, Ralph is out of town at the mo, will keep trying.

[keltos01]

sorry Keltos, Ralph is out of town at the mo, will keep trying.

ok

any news yet ?

keltos

[keltos01]

bump

any news ?

[keltos01]

miner1436

I know I posted this before, but it zooms in on the control room and might be of help.
http://eastcoastarmory.com/forumPic/junsen_b.jpg

[keltos01]

I-52 Blueprint

That model looks sweet.

Found this image of I-52
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/herrmill/I-52planII.jpg
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/herrmill/I-52planII.jpg)

[keltos01]

I-182

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3453/i178kaidai73.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/i178kaidai73.jpg/)



I-176

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6611/i176kaidai71b.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/i176kaidai71b.jpg/)

I-176 tower :

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2192/i176kaidai7tower.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/i176kaidai7tower.jpg/)




I-178 blueprint

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9333/blueprinti178sub2.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/blueprinti178sub2.jpg/)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3419/blueprinti178hullsectio.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/blueprinti178hullsectio.jpg/)


Ships of the world 2 1963 no 66

Type KD7

Units 10 (none survived)

Ships I-176, I-177, I-178, I-179, I-180, I-181, I-182, I-183, I-184, and I-185.

Year(s) Completed 1942-1943

Displacement 1,833 tons / 2,602 tons

Dimensions 346 ft x 27 ft x 15 ft

Machinery 2 diesels: 8,000 hp

electric motors: 1,800 hp

Speed 23 knots / 8 knots

Range 8,000 nm @ 16 knots

Armament 6x533mm TT fwd (none aft) + 1x12cm/50 cal. (12 Torpedoes)

Max. Depth 80 m (265 feet)

Crew 86 officers and men



this is a jpg 300 dpi version, I will upload a TIFF 300 dpi on my mediafire page shortly.

Merry Xmas to all

keltos

[miner1436]

Wow what book is that from?

[keltos01]

Wow what book is that from?


the blueprint 's book is quoted underneath, the other one is from the kure museum "submarines and submarines depot ships" J panese Naval Warship Photo Album, Kure Maritime Museum, 2005.
ISBN 4-478-95061-X

keltos

[miner1436]

Cool, does that book have any scans of the c1/c2?

[keltos01]

Cool, does that book have any scans of the c1/c2?
will look it up later today

k

[keltos01]

but IJN subs real blueprints are few and far between, found this picture of I-16 (same C1 class as I-20) though :

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5631/f817ec82s.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/f817ec82s.jpg/)

http://translate.google.be/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.livedoor.jp%2Firootoko_jr%2Far chives%2Fcat_7560.html&sl=ja&tl=en

keltos

[keltos01]

IJN Type A1 blueprint

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9730/a12fe.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/a12fe.jpg/)



keltos

[keltos01]

IJN C1 blueprint I-16

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4739/i16.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/i16.jpg/)


keltos

[miner1436]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

By the way, where did you get the book "Submarines and submarine tenders of the imperial Jpanese navy album"? I was looking for it but never found a store.

[keltos01]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

By the way, where did you get the book "Submarines and submarine tenders of the imperial Jpanese navy album"? I was looking for it but never found a store.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5162/71747628.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/71747628.jpg/)


the other one is from the kure museum "submarines and submarines depot ships" J panese Naval Warship Photo Album, Kure Maritime Museum, 2005.
ISBN 4-478-95061-X

I got it from Rubenandthejets straight from Japan.


keltos

[keltos01]

New blueprint found !!!
still don't know when it's from, but that's a submarine alright !

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2200/50180201005001.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/50180201005001.jpg/)

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5396/submarinem.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/submarinem.jpg/)


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1812/kcopyx.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/kcopyx.jpg/)

unknown :

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1586/unknownsubmarinebluepri.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/unknownsubmarinebluepri.jpg/)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6606/600tclasssubmarine.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/600tclasssubmarine.jpg/)


http://translate.google.be/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Frarebook.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp%2Fhiraga%2F&sl=ja&tl=en


YATAA !!!!!


keltos

[keltos01]

IJN L11, L12 minelayer submarine blueprint :

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2570/ijnsubl11l12copy.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/ijnsubl11l12copy.jpg/)


keltos

[keltos01]

IJN M class submarine blueprint :


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6169/ijnmclassblueprintcopy.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/ijnmclassblueprintcopy.jpg/)


keltos

[keltos01]

R class submarine blueprint :

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5098/rclasssubmarine.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/rclasssubmarine.jpg/)

[keltos01]

High speed submersible :


http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8581/highspeedsubmersiblecop.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/highspeedsubmersiblecop.jpg/)

[keltos01]

unknown sub blueprint

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2194/unknownijnsubmarineblue.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/unknownijnsubmarineblue.jpg/)

[keltos01]

unknown submarine blueprint :

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2194/unknownijnsubmarineblue.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/unknownijnsubmarineblue.jpg/)

[keltos01]

BB class submarine:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1157/bbclasssubmarine.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/bbclasssubmarine.jpg/)

[keltos01]

unknown submarine blueprint (3) :

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1586/unknownsubmarinebluepri.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/unknownsubmarinebluepri.jpg/)

[keltos01]

unknown submarine blueprint 4

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1204/unknownsubmarinebluepris.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/unknownsubmarinebluepris.jpg/)

[keltos01]

U161 U135 U139 blueprint (war reparation) :

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6294/u161u135u139blueprint.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/i/u161u135u139blueprint.jpg/)

[keltos01]

UB 103-117

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3932/ub103uc97.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/ub103uc97.jpg/)

U 152 UC 22 UC 97

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5903/u152uc22uc97.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/u152uc22uc97.jpg/)

well it looks as though all the blueprints I found on this japanese digital archive are WWI submarines :-(

well that'll make some people happy I hope ! I was looking for other blueprints of WWII submarines similar to that of the Type AM I-14 posted earlier...

maybe next time..

Keltos

[keltos01]

I-16 :

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5977/i16z.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/i16z.jpg/)

Gakken vol 35 ISBN4-05-602741-2

keltos

[keltos01]

Jyunsen 2 submarine I-6 blueprint :

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2201/jyunsen2i6ijnsubmarinec.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/jyunsen2i6ijnsubmarinec.jpg/)


Submarines of the IJN 1904-45 p. 97.

KD7 I-176 submarine :

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9343/i176typekd7ijnsubmarine.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/i176typekd7ijnsubmarine.jpg/)


Submarines of the IJN 1904-45 p. 108.


Sen Taka I-201 submarine blueprint :

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1369/i201sentakaijnsubmarine.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/i201sentakaijnsubmarine.jpg/)


Submarines of the IJN 1904-45 p. 117.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5246/ro35ijnsubmarinebluepri.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/ro35ijnsubmarinebluepri.jpg/)


RO 35 submarine :

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5246/ro35ijnsubmarinebluepri.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/ro35ijnsubmarinebluepri.jpg/)

Submarines of the IJN 1904-45 p. 125.

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2870/0010cb6cmedium.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/0010cb6cmedium.jpg/)


keltos

[keltos01]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4739/i16.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/i16.jpg/)

[keltos01]

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6475/kd3b.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/kd3b.jpg/)

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8165/60140919.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/60140919.jpg/)

[keltos01]

Kaidai 3b blueprint :


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5623/kd3bblueprin2t.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/kd3bblueprin2t.jpg/)



Ships of the World #469, 1993 ..37 p. 48.

[keltos01]

Jyunsen 2 (I-6) :

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4505/i61935ra.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/i61935ra.jpg/)

http://www.worldweapons.eu/1-Warships/Japan/10-SS/1935%20-%20Junsen%202/index_warships_draw_japan_ss-i6.htm


Jyunsen 3 class (I-7) :


http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9817/ssi71937ra.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/ssi71937ra.jpg/)


http://www.worldweapons.eu/1-Warships/Japan/10-SS/1937%20-%20Junsen%203/index_warships_draw_japan_ss-i7.htm

[keltos01]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4885/ssi4001945ra.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/ssi4001945ra.jpg/)

[keltos01]

Sen Taka Sho :

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7273/ssha201rb.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/ssha201rb.jpg/)

http://www.worldweapons.eu/1-Warships/Japan/10-SS/1945%20-%20STS/index_warships_draw_japan_ss-ha201.htm

[keltos01]

a rare view of three Kaidai 3a submarines :

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6756/i53i55i56.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/i53i55i56.jpg/)



and clock :

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/879/clockijnsubwwii.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/clockijnsubwwii.jpg/)http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/clockijnsubwwii.jpg/1/w680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img690/clockijnsubwwii.jpg/1/)
keltos

[miner1436]

Wow thats a weird conning tower, looks like a US feet boat and IJN sub mix.

[keltos01]

http://www.combinedfleet.com/images/type_kd3.gif
http://www.combinedfleet.com/type_kd3.htm

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7458/42e7c1a5.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/42e7c1a5.jpg/)http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/42e7c1a5.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img691/42e7c1a5.jpg/1/)
Wow thats a weird conning tower, looks like a US feet boat and IJN sub mix.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6756/i53i55i56.jpg

Well look at the shape of the Bow, curving up and rounded on the sides, those are Kaidai 3a boats from Subron 9 (number on port side of sub in the background), so I might have to check my KD3a tower and change the front part... if you look at the above picture one can actually see the strange tower, with hindsight that is ! though it looks as if the one showing the whole sub has more viewports ?

keltos

[keltos01]

found a list of plans/sections in the USN mission to Japan 1946 that were forwarded to the Bureau of Ships

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1855/documents.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/documents.jpg/)

see :
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/019.html

can anyone access those ????


keltos

[keltos01]

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2192/i176kaidai7tower.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/i176kaidai7tower.jpg/)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3453/i178kaidai73.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/i178kaidai73.jpg/) http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/i178kaidai73.jpg/1/w738.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img687/i178kaidai73.jpg/1/)

keltos

[keltos01]

sen taka blueprint re scanned :

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8434/sentakablueprintcopy.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/sentakablueprintcopy.jpg/)

keltos

[Armistead]

I've got that nice little book. I've always been amazed over JP sub technology...good thing they used poor tactics. You think they would've come around once they saw what we were doing.

[keltos01]

sen taka blueprint re scanned :

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8434/sentakablueprintcopy.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/sentakablueprintcopy.jpg/)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9303/sentakaplanes.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/sentakaplanes.jpg/)


http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/700/i201blueprintcopy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ-200G-0663-0694%20Report%20S-01-6.pdf

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9144/i201ra.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/i201ra.jpg/)

here the conning tower seems to be accurate, the hull less so.

http://www.worldweapons.eu/1-Warships/Japan/10-SS/1945%20-%20STS/index_warships_draw_japan_ss-ha201.htm


the top blueprint and the Sen Taka's from the USN mission to Japan show the same back planes and rudder. The latter is to be used as reference, since it was made when the subs were still around !

keltos

[msxyz]

I have few very detailed interior plans somewhere. (much more detailed than most of those seen in this thread so far)

I have to search my library and scan them; then I'll upload them somewhere.
Give me a couple of days. :)

If you're looking for photos, drawings and technical data, there's Erminio Bagnasco's Submarines of World War Two. Some of the reported data, however is inaccurate. Most of the figures floating around the net (like the entries in Wikipedia, or the pages of Combinedfleet site) take the info from that book. Arguably it's the most comprehensive catalog os subs employed in WW2

[keltos01]

I have few very detailed interior plans somewhere. (much more detailed than most of those seen in this thread so far)

I have to search my library and scan them; then I'll upload them somewhere.
Give me a couple of days. :)

If you're looking for photos, drawings and technical data, there's Erminio Bagnasco's Submarines of World War Two. Some of the reported data, however is inaccurate. Most of the figures floating around the net (like the entries in Wikipedia, or the pages of Combinedfleet site) take the info from that book. Arguably it's the most comprehensive catalog os subs employed in WW2

Excellent !!!!!

thank you very much


and yes I have Erminio Bagnasco's Submarines of World War Two

looking forward to your scans !

keltos

[tater]

I continue to keep an eye out for you. Best bet might be japanese magazines and books. Keep an eye on the ship model making websites, too. :yep:

[msxyz]

I've found and scanned a high resolution, ultra-detailed KD-7 blueprint :D
(My favourite japanese sub!). I also have a few others blueprints of similar quality of less known sub types.

Problem is, the two images are 15-20 Mpixel and I don't want to resize them down because, otherwise, the fine kanji prints won't be readable.

I'm at work now, I'll try find a hosting site when I'm back home. Have faith! :yep:

[keltos01]

is it the same as post # 39 ?

keltos

[msxyz]

is it the same as post # 39 ?

keltos

Nope, they are proper blueprints (not just the siluette). Here they are in all their digital Glory :) There is enough detail to even reproduce the interior, if some modder would like to. I've been tempted in the past to pick up 3DStudio and Photoshop to create it, but this is one of the many projects I shelved due lack of spare time.

http://rapidshare.com/files/367704134/Image1.PNG.html
MD5: B301385EC2E018907C4CBAFC72B070B6

http://rapidshare.com/files/367704687/Image2.PNG.html
MD5: 84FAA70B942A4BC254E46ACE2BDDCA1E

Rapidshare free hosting. Sorry; it's limited to 10 downloads

Juicy preview!
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6664/previewfa.jpg

[keltos01]

wow !

a beaut !

where does that come from ?

regards

keltos

[HELLISH1]

Nope, they are proper blueprints (not just the siluette). Here they are in all their digital Glory :) There is enough detail to even reproduce the interior, if some modder would like to. I've been tempted in the past to pick up 3DStudio and Photoshop to create it, but this is one of the many projects I shelved due lack of spare time.

http://rapidshare.com/files/367704134/Image1.PNG.html
MD5: B301385EC2E018907C4CBAFC72B070B6

http://rapidshare.com/files/367704687/Image2.PNG.html
MD5: 84FAA70B942A4BC254E46ACE2BDDCA1E

Rapidshare free hosting. Sorry; it's limited to 10 downloads

Juicy preview!
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6664/previewfa.jpg
I'll take a crack at it:rock:
Hellish 3d modeler

[msxyz]

I'll take a crack at it:rock:
Hellish 3d modeler

Good! :) I'll never really went into SH modding. I got fed up after years of modding FPS (starting with the first Doom). However, if I could get some help from other people, I *could* decide to blew the dust off my 3D modelling tools and try doing a nice mesh.

[keltos01]

I'll take a crack at it:rock:
Hellish 3d modeler


Do that, make a model in .obj with uv1 and uv2 layers, make an AO map (.O01) a N01 map (normal map) make sure the tower and the hull are separate objects and...

I'll be happy to include it in the IJN Campaign mod


regards

keltos

[msxyz]

Jyunsen J2: even more detailed and larger blueprints! :rock:

http://rapidshare.com/files/370011928/Junsen_J2.zip.html
MD5: 97C8D15764A003B80C1FEA6681EC79DB

[keltos01]

Jyunsen J2: even more detailed and larger blueprints! :rock:

http://rapidshare.com/files/370011928/Junsen_J2.zip.html
MD5: 97C8D15764A003B80C1FEA6681EC79DB

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To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information.

please re upload to mediafire ?

keltos

[HELLISH1]

Do that, make a model in .obj with uv1 and uv2 layers, make an AO map (.O01) a N01 map (normal map) make sure the tower and the hull are separate objects and...

I'll be happy to include it in the IJN Campaign mod


regards

keltos
work starts this weekend on this sub:yeah:

[keltos01]

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6664/previewfa.jpg

@Hellish : thanks for making the model

@msxyz : can you re post the high resolution scan of the sub seen here above : I have the J2 and the JB2 but not this one

Msxyz blueprints of JB2 and I-6 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/cxwygyozd4v/Msxyz (http://www.mediafire.com/file/cxwygyozd4v/Msxyz) bluerprints.7z

regards

keltos

[keltos01]

KD7 I-182 high resolution blueprint from Msxyz :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1nhjmmrnman/KD-7.zip

keltos

[USS Sea Tiger]

:DL
By Any rare chance does anyone have plans for the type A Midget, like HA19??

Needing these so very bad!

[keltos01]

:DL
By Any rare chance does anyone have plans for the type A Midget, like HA19??

Needing these so very bad!

here's a start :

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6739/ijnkohyotekiclassmidget.gif (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/ijnkohyotekiclassmidget.gif/)



http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ships/ships-japan/22791/viewsingle/ijn_ko-hyoteki_class_midget_submarine/


and :

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2122/mastheady.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/mastheady.jpg/)

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9615/hurl12.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/hurl12.jpg/)
http://i-16tou.com/hurl/

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2552/endorsementb.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/endorsementb.jpg/)




http://i-16tou.com/

http://i-16tou.com/id/


I have very detailed ones in a Gakken book I got from Rubenandthejets in Japan but don't have time to scan it right now..




Our playable Ko Hyoteki for SH4 v 1.5:

http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145081&page=2 (http://174.123.69.202/%7Esubsimc/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145081&page=2)


Download Ko Hyoteki stand-alone mod v 1.4 :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mktzcimjvtm/IJN_Ko_1_4.7z

regards

keltos

[keltos01]

Blueprints of Italian submarines :

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3640/marcelloclass.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/marcelloclass.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.xmasgrupsom.com/Sommergibili/Tavole/Tavole.html


anyone care to make the Marcello class please ???

[GaryM]

Looking for photographs and scale drawings. I would appeciate any help, as up till now I have not been able to find anything that even looks like a detailed plan.

[keltos01]

Most documents were destroyed by the japanese at the end of the war...

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4740/ijni7in1937.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/ijni7in1937.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

I-7 in 1937

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junsen_type_submarine

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/782/i1wreckage.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/i1wreckage.jpg/)

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/ships/subs/I-1.html

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2964/jap2v.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/jap2v.jpg/)


http://silentseawolvesmsw.devhub.com/blog/523833-birth-and-growth-of-the-imperial-navys-submarine-force/

I use pictures and blueprints to build subs, sometimes pictures are better !

regards

keltos

I-1 wreck

[Arael]

Most documents were destroyed by the japanese at the end of the war...
http://silentseawolvesmsw.devhub.com/blog/523833-birth-and-growth-of-the-imperial-navys-submarine-force/

I use pictures and blueprints to build subs, sometimes pictures are better !

regards

keltos

I-1 wreck

It's really too bad more countries don't go the French route and upload builder's blueprints of their old ships to the Internet. It would make jobs like your's a lot easier.

[keltos01]

It's really too bad more countries don't go the French route and upload builder's blueprints of their old ships to the Internet. It would make jobs like your's a lot easier.

i agree!

[Gewehr98]

If anyone has a lead on either Ro-35 (Kaichu VII) or (preferably) Ro-100 class blueprints I'd be eternally grateful!

[keltos01]

Oni 220 recognition book
.
Folks,
We thank History on CD ROM for scanning, and providing this recognition book for non-profit use.


https://maritime.org/doc/id/oni220-german-japan-subs/index.htm

And :

https://maritime.org/doc/id/oni222j-japan-navy/pg080.htm

[keltos01]

If anyone has a lead on either Ro-35 (Kaichu VII) or (preferably) Ro-100 class blueprints I'd be eternally grateful!
not in any of my few books I'm afraid

[propbeanie]

I've been reading quite a few things lately, and I'm mixing the sources in my head, but a few of them have mentioned how much of the IJN data was destroyed in the last days of the war...

[keltos01]

intel :

https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Junsen%20type%20submarine&uid=1575

kaidai 6 class :

http://www.midway1942.com/ships/ijn_ss_kd6.shtml

[keltos01]

https://youtu.be/2xxrUM7Pzic

[keltos01]

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/I176%20blueprint_zpsyxcvd0pa.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/I176%20blueprint_zpsyxcvd0pa.jpg.html)

[keltos01]

http://rocketumbl.tumblr.com/post/133124821575

nice pictures

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo4_1280_zpsfrkpvm7y.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo4_1280_zpsfrkpvm7y.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo3_1280_zpsb2w9j9o9.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo3_1280_zpsb2w9j9o9.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo6_1280_zpsip6v88vh.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo6_1280_zpsip6v88vh.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo8_500_zpsisqhlmmg.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo8_500_zpsisqhlmmg.jpg.htm l)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo9_1280_zpsq46mrvwk.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo9_1280_zpsq46mrvwk.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo5_1280_zpsodxfkrlv.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo5_1280_zpsodxfkrlv.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo10_1280_zpskkdv89zq.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo10_1280_zpskkdv89zq.jpg.h tml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo2_1280_zpsos7x9xtw.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo2_1280_zpsos7x9xtw.jpg.ht ml)

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo7_500_zpsrzlakbbt.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/tumblr_nxqzk6odSy1sxm4gzo7_500_zpsrzlakbbt.jpg.htm l)

[keltos01]

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/27a4c52796a3062f4e0436127f4691b9_zpsnimx77vc.jpg (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/27a4c52796a3062f4e0436127f4691b9_zpsnimx77vc.jpg.h tml)

[keltos01]

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w515/fredheller/sh4%202017-04-24%2021-49-50-94_zpspdvldm43.png (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/fredheller/media/sh4%202017-04-24%2021-49-50-94_zpspdvldm43.png.html)

where does this xbusqdgfo poster come from !!!??????

[propbeanie]

That's the one!

[keltos01]

found it !!!

wip !

[Kizer]

From what I've seen from the design drawings the on deck plane storage?? the bulbous space in front of the conning tower?? This is the same length as the plane's fuselage and not much wider...
So how does it fit??
Visited the shipyards & museums in Japan where they have great models (but no real documentation) and the explanation I got was "They MAKE the plane fit by disassembling the plane until its small enough and SHOVING it in"
By which I assume they mean that to fit the Yokosuka E14Y scout plane?? in the approximately 8m long by 2m high cylinder, the tail section (rudder and horizontal stabiliser), as well as the propeller, are completely removed to allow the 8.6m long fuselage to fit???
Then some magic is performed on the wings to make them also fit... being almost 1.7m wide and 5.5m long and the central part of the cylinder being occupied by the fuselage???
Whatever space is leftover is filled by the floats and struts???

What are the dimensions of the hangar?
Do you have any photos of it?
Is the Plane a Yokosuka E14Y scout plane?
Do you have its dimensions?
And photos of it in the hangar?

Thanks