View Full Version : One for the trekkies!
bookworm_020
11-19-08, 02:47 AM
Trailer for the new movie is out!
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24674578-5001021,00.html
I just let you all get on with it as it isn't my thing!:88)
Boooo!!!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Londo.jpg
I'm pretty trekkie but it doesn't look that interesting.
goldorak
11-19-08, 04:44 AM
Ok it isn't Star Trek The Motion Picture by any stretch of the imagination, but I'll go see it anyways. :yep:
Skybird
11-19-08, 05:29 AM
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?
I was thinking on opening a new thread about the movie since images and the TV spot were release a few days and bookworm_020 did the job:up: .
After a saw the trailer, that confirms several things, I :nope: :nope: :nope: and :x :x :x . And so :dead: after I saw the image of kirk and the enterprise :huh: !
For a interesting comment on the movie and ship:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/trekxi_comment.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm
This movie will be the XXI century vision of Star Trek. So one must began to separate the "old trek universe" (with may have or not the Enterprise series) from the "new trek universe". And the movie can be good also...:lol:
Onkel Neal
11-19-08, 08:21 AM
Star Trek = Awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQXw7-zHwI)
Looks kinda like "Star trek: Revenge of the Sith" to me :rotfl:
DeepIron
11-19-08, 09:18 AM
Ah... the last rattling gasp of a dying franchise... And, because they ran out of original plots, the writers fell back on the "Sex Device". I'm a lifelong fan of StarTrek and to a lesser extent, the spin-offs. But I may just "walk on by" the theatres and wait for the DVD on this one...
ReallyDedPoet
11-19-08, 09:31 AM
Looking forward to it. Change is not a bad thing. It worked with Batman, it worked with James Bond, maybe it will here as well.
RDP
Oh! I'm really looking forward to this one. They won't ever replace the verve and sex appeal of a young Shatner, but knowing Abrams, the film will be quality entertainment.
Live long and prosper!
PS: to all ya haters: Phasers on stun :smug:
AVGWarhawk
11-19-08, 12:44 PM
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!
DeepIron
11-19-08, 12:48 PM
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...
It worked for Superman in "Smallville."
AVGWarhawk
11-19-08, 12:55 PM
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...
It worked for Superman in "Smallville."
Well, yesterday I read about this and there is sex and Capt Kirk checking out Lt Auhura while she is undressing. My first thought was this is 90210 meets Ster Trek. It seemed to be getting silly. I stopped reading.
DeepIron
11-19-08, 12:59 PM
Looks an awful lot like any of these TV-series they have these days filled with beautiful featureless young faces, plot tailored for juveniles and teenagers. Don't like what I see in that trailer. Looks like "Melrose Place" in space. Und überall diese Milchgesichter... :dead: Is the movie about babysitting in space?
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!ya know, maybe you've got something there AVG... Perhaps a spin-off series after the movie to hook the "youngsters" and bring back the franchise...
It worked for Superman in "Smallville."
Well, yesterday I read about this and there is sex and Capt Kirk checking out Lt Auhura while she is undressing. My first thought was this is 90210 meets Ster Trek. It seemed to be getting silly. I stopped reading.The ironic aspect of the whole Kirk and Uhura thing is that they actually did the first "interracial kiss" on network television in the StarTrek series. The episode was "Plato's Stepchildren" if I remember correctly...
MothBalls
11-19-08, 01:00 PM
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!
Star Trek - The Academy Years. Join the crew of the Enterprise while they navigate the perils of Star Fleet Academy. Boldly go where no student has gone before.
Phhhttttt....
Why don't they just take it to "The Next Generation" again. Go beyond warp drive and the newest Enterprise has the ability to fold space and explore the entire Galaxy, or other galaxies.
Bring back Voyager and let them have an accident where the fold drive takes them to another Galaxy.... and they disappear forever.
Set up a new station, DS999, on the other side of the Galaxy.
AVGWarhawk
11-19-08, 01:01 PM
DI, yep...I remember it. I'm 43 and grew up on the reruns. :up: So, yeah, it is a spin from the early show. Then again, ST was always attempting to address the days social issues but just in deep space.
AVGWarhawk
11-19-08, 01:02 PM
Yep...it is Beverly Hills 90210 meets The Enterprise!
Star Trek - The Academy Years. Join the crew of the Enterprise while they navigate the perils of Star Fleet Academy. Boldly go where no student has gone before.
Phhhttttt....
Why don't they just take it to "The Next Generation" again. Go beyond warp drive and the newest Enterprise has the ability to fold space and explore the entire Galaxy, or other galaxies.
Bring back Voyager and let them have an accident where the fold drive takes them to another Galaxy.... and they disappear forever.
Set up a new station, DS999, on the other side of the Galaxy.
Well, we know were Capt Kirk is going boldy were no man has gone before....:rotfl:Just were is that communications officer?
AntEater
11-19-08, 01:13 PM
Actually, the old series was quite cheesy in its days.
William Shatner ('nuff said), dead Redshirts, sex crazed female aliens, fistfights with dinosaurs with zippers on their backs...
I think the ratio of really great to outrageously bad episodes was about 1:1.
Star Treck is interesting in the way it changed with society.
TOS was still a bit western like
TNG was politically correct, nonviolent (how often I wished Picard would simply blast all those alien idiots to hell instead of negotiating) and racially integrated, even with Androids.
DS9 was in some ways the most interesting, but was still too stuck the conventional storywriting of Star Trek.
Voyager had a great idea but I always wondered how they managed to get their ship shot to hell every episode and get her shipshape again with no noticable change the next episode.
Never saw Enterprise, though.
I watched some DS9 last (Season 6 I think, the one with Nicole de Boer) season episodes on Stage6 before it went down, and was struck by how conventional and predictable even the least conventional and predictable Star Trek show was compared to BSG or even many Babylon 5 episodes.
I hadn't seen any Star Trek show for a few years, I must admit.
Almost no story arcs, always two stories per episode, often one serious, one funny, then a mostly miraculous and often illogical resolution of at least one of them, with a moral message.
I know that the producers of BSG were once storywriters for DS9, but apparently I missed their episodes.
To be short, if they ever want to do another star trek TV series, they will have to do some serious catching up because until the very last episode, it seems that ST was still a very old fashioned TV show dramaturgically.
Regarding the "young" crew, Shatner and Nemoy were not teenage stars anymore in the old series, but the whole Kirk/Spock star trek movies except for the first were some kind of "pandering to the baby boomers getting old" kind of sheme.
Now the boomers are getting fewer and fewer and they need new target groups.
One problem with Star Trek (with all SF series) here is bad dubbing. Especially since even a relatively nonviolent series like ST has a lot of military terms in it which german dubbing studios apparently have no idea about.
On the other hand, German TNG never had the nagging question why Captain PicarD was a frenchman with a perfect Oxfort accent.
HD version http://www.startrekmovie.com/?gclid=CJv_kIv1gZcCFSEeDQoduFOlYw
Skybird
11-19-08, 03:20 PM
Star Trek = Awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQXw7-zHwI)
"The ship hits the fans", eh? :lol:
AVGWarhawk
11-19-08, 03:37 PM
Star Trek = Awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQXw7-zHwI) "The ship hits the fans", eh? :lol:
Interesting they used the original score and recreated it with the same notes but of course better equipment. The woman singing was dead on. :up:
Star Trek = Awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQXw7-zHwI) "The ship hits the fans", eh? :lol:
Interesting they used the original score and recreated it with the same notes but of course better equipment. The woman singing was dead on. :up:
Yes, the remaster version is wonderfull. You want new star trek? Go here:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ ;)
@reallydedpoet, Bond movies are, as the owner of the previous site that I put here, re-imagining the character. Batman was a full reboot of the franchising and worked very fine.
But this new trek movie was always intent to be a prequel. J.J. Abrams said that the movie would focus the academy years of the TOS characters so; it's set on the trek universe that everybody knows.
If he had said that the movie would be a new, XXI century version/vision of Star Trek, that would span to possibly more 2 films and/or a TV show, in a "batmanian" way, there were no question about if the movie would please this or make mistakes about that, in ST universe and continuity.
Kapitan_Phillips
03-23-09, 01:59 AM
Cant believe I missed this thread :nope:
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-new-enterprise-bridge.jpg
The Bridge looks like it was designed by Apple :dead:
Etienne
03-23-09, 02:34 AM
Yeah... Well... Yeah. I'll reserve judgement until the movie actually comes out, but...
Wouldn't it make more sense to build the Enterprise in orbit?
Usually, when I come up with those questions just watching the trailer, it's not a good sign.
rubenandthejets
03-23-09, 06:30 AM
I remember way back when "Star Trek the Motion Picture" came out in '79.
The same year as "Alien". Trek was ok, ( an extended dance mix version of an episode with a decent budget ) but "Alien" ROCKED!
Now, thirty years later, it's time to give up. Both franchises have been done to death; no, beyond death (AVP??? WTF???). These shambling zombies need to be decapitated. :nope:
I'd rather watch "It Conquered the World" again.
XabbaRus
03-23-09, 06:45 AM
Hmm is this the same Abrahams of Lost fame...
Think I will wait for the DVD.
OneToughHerring
03-23-09, 07:01 AM
Hmm, looks pretty bad although I've never been an ST-fan, I do like the first two Alien films though. I remember a clip where in some ST-movie a starship defended whales from a fishing boat. I remember it because the fishermen spoke Finnish, or actually a variant of Finnish called Kven which is spoken in northern Sweden and Norway.
Found the clip on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYHfJks15jY&feature=related
Skybird
03-23-09, 07:20 AM
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-new-enterprise-bridge.jpg
Seeing that reminds me why I did not like the trailer. I still think like four months ago: "Melrose Place" in space.
After DS9, Star Trek pretty much was dead.
goldorak
03-23-09, 07:48 AM
Well, yesterday I read about this and there is sex and Capt Kirk checking out Lt Auhura while she is undressing. My first thought was this is 90210 meets Ster Trek. It seemed to be getting silly. I stopped reading.
Oh please, take the 1960's Star Trek and suppose for a moment that censorship wasn't a problem. You would have the same kind of experience Abrams is targeting with the new Star Trek.
I suppose Trekkies are as rabid fanboys as Galactica 1970 fans are. They will never be able to see a new reimagining of their favorite series just because it breaks their old fantasies. Hey its their loss after all. The rest of us will continue to enjoy new series, with new actors and new special effects. :yeah:
So BRING IT ON. :D :woot:
Wolfehunter
03-23-09, 09:42 AM
Boooo!!!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Londo.jpgI have to agree Babylon 5 was the best scifi show. But if it wasn't for startrek who knows what we be watching now... :DL
I'm always a startrek fan but Babylon 5 was far better.
I'm glad Paramount didn't listen to J. Michael Straczynski when he offered his vision because they would have kill his dream. :03:
Wolfehunter
03-23-09, 09:47 AM
Cant believe I missed this thread :nope:
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-new-enterprise-bridge.jpg
The Bridge looks like it was designed by Apple :dead:I think I'm going to be sick....:eek:
What did they do to the bridge.... :nope:
Subnuts
03-23-09, 10:27 AM
Cant believe I missed this thread :nope:
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-new-enterprise-bridge.jpg
The Bridge looks like it was designed by Apple :dead:
Can you imagine what the set designer was thinking?
"Hey guys! Let's put thick glass panels on the bridge - the part of the ship that's constantly exploding and tossing crew members around. And don't forget to put at least two dozen lights at eye level at each of the stations in the back!"
Wolfehunter
03-23-09, 11:15 AM
I understand why the bridge looks like that now. On the startrek forum the guys are saying that spock and bones know what happens. I think they start the true Startrek beginning but something happens. Time is changed. Only those two know this issue and well that's all I know so far. So the universe we know as traditional Startrek is history and replaced with this newer parallel universe. That is why you see the different ugly bridge... and newer looking Enterprise.
If that is true they're spining off on a new universe then startrek has a new birth.
I may like the change. But if there ripping us off with all this new vibe stuff in the same old startrek universe, I won't like the film because it would be a fake.
AVGWarhawk
03-23-09, 11:54 AM
Star Trek: Episode 1 Star Date 2099, Space Orgy. To boldly go were Kirk has always wanted to boldly go with the communication officer. :88) It is more than just an ear piece, it is buttons on a consul as well. :up:
Zachstar
03-23-09, 06:12 PM
I do not like where the movie is going but I accept that this is a "new universe"
I am a firm believer in the theory of multiple universes and the ability to influence or create another from within our own. If ST wants to go that way so be it. (Keep in mind every time they go back in time in the series they create a new universe)
Voyager completely shattered the universe known as cannon.
Overall tho I think the days of Star Trek in the picture format are over. It took WAY to long for Enterprise to get good (Season 3) and audiences do not have that kind of patience these days.
I think Star Trek is going to live on in video gaming. People used the Bridge Commander PC game to create a slew of new stories (Including a major fan Season 5 for Enterprise) Eventually (Not with ST Online as it is now tho) I think they are going to let the fans move the series forward with games that let people write their own experiences.
I do not like where the movie is going but I accept that this is a "new universe"
I am a firm believer in the theory of multiple universes and the ability to influence or create another from within our own. If ST wants to go that way so be it. (Keep in mind every time they go back in time in the series Voyager completely shattered the universe known as cannon.
Overall tho I think the days of Star Trek in the picture format are over. It they create a new universe)
took WAY to long for Enterprise to get good (Season 3) and audiences do not have that kind of patience these days.
I think Star Trek is going to live on in video gaming. People used the Bridge Commander PC game to create a slew of new stories (Including a major fan Season 5 for Enterprise) Eventually (Not with ST Online as it is now tho) I think they are going to let the fans move the series forward with games that let people write their own experiences.
No, Enterprise shattered the canon universe! If the last season were the first or second, the show possibly could have go on and if they did the thinks right we now had seing the romulan-earth war in the show!
The bridge design, the ship design also, the ship being build on earth :nope:!
The new movie will be the XXI century vison of Star Trek, possibly a bad one. Notting to do or to tie it to TOS!
For a great vision of both the movie and the new ship:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/trekxi_comment.htm
and the best
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/stxi_continuity.htm
Trailer for the new movie is out!
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24674578-5001021,00.html
I just let you all get on with it as it isn't my thing!:88)
This is ****ing horrible. Looks like Star Trek is over for good now.
"We are the ADD crowd. You will be assimilated into our retarded collective of few big colorful letters, big colorful pictures in every print magazine, over-done CGI, ring tones, emo musings, and sluts posing as independent women. Resistance is futile.
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Looks like the new film might be a laugh. I grew up on trek, specifically the origional series repeats and deep space nine. I like to keep an open mind, how bad can it be? (nemesis:doh:)
P.S.
Skybird, how do you know it's going to be like bevely hills 90210 or melrose place? You must realy like those shows to recognise them from a 136 second movie trailor :yeah:
Well, I am sure that I posted here before about this, but definatly not in this thread. I grew up as a Trekkie, and actually came from a Trek message board to here. TNG was my first encounter with Trek and TOS was the thing my father liked that was very corney, but should be respected. DS9 was tops, especially with the long multi-season story arcs, in depth character development, and the darkness (which some would argue that Roddenberry would have never allowed).
VOY had an interesting premis but screwed it up, with the alien of the week bit, especially the lack of continuation of consequences for their actions (which BSG did to their credit). In many ways VOY could be epitimized by Ens Kim. Lots of potential but still a low grade version of what it could have been. Not that it didn't have its shining moments, like many which involved the Doctor story arc.
ENT in many ways was not Trek, because it avoided trek even though it was founded on it. You could tell with the beginning sequence, when Star Trek wasn't even used in the origonal title shot. The entire temporal war distracted it from where it should have been heading, which was the Romulan-Earth War which we never got to see.
All that being said, I will watch this, to support the franchise. But I go in with mixed feelings ... cadet kirk takes command after the captain dies although multiple bridge crew with time in space sit around in shock. No wonder why his ego never seemed to fit into that chair.
TOS had its old salts in The Doctor, Spock, and Scotty to balance the crazyness of Kirk and the young Chekov. Hopefully we will see the balance here.
Oh, and lets avoid this:
http://wackyiraqi.com/wtf/sulu_fencing.jpg
Kapitan_Phillips
03-26-09, 04:12 AM
http://wackyiraqi.com/wtf/sulu_fencing.jpg
"Iiiiii'llll take you hooooome Cathleeeeeeenn" :yeah:
We need more of this:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/2/28/Benjamin_Sisko_toasts_the_good_guys.jpg/292px-Benjamin_Sisko_toasts_the_good_guys.jpg
And maybe this:
http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/Voy224.jpg
Ahhh! Great moments of Star Trek! :D
The thing is, in the movie, they have jet packs and do a la Ace Macleod in an action scene (Sulu to, but I still prefer the chest naked George Takei and is fencing foil)!
Etienne
03-26-09, 12:07 PM
http://wackyiraqi.com/wtf/sulu_fencing.jpg
I am Inigo Montoya...
XabbaRus
04-16-09, 11:59 AM
OK just saw the trailer for the film at the cinema after whilst going to see Monsters Vs Aliens with my daughter. Looks very impressive actually. I think I will go for a look.
OK just saw the trailer for the film at the cinema after whilst going to see Monsters Vs Aliens with my daughter. Looks very impressive actually. I think I will go for a look.
Yeh it's looking like it might be very good. Star trek was beginning to get stale. Voyager was poor and enterprise didn't get good untill season 4, by then it was too late to save it. I just hope some fans can get over their obsession with "canon" and enjoy the story. I know I will :rock:
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