[wip] Pe 4.1

[kriller2]

Hi all,

Here is a preview of what is coming up to PE4 in the near future, notice how the waves keeps the detail and the foams movement when the waves moves.

Youtube video of wave and foam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSRW0v-pW0) click on "watch in high quality" on youtube.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5708/pe4foamuk3.jpg
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSRW0v-pW0)

Youtube video sunset reflections (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cosEytzue20) click on "watch in high quality" on youtube.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/1672/pe4sunsetrk6.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cosEytzue20)

[Gunfighter]

Hi all,

Here is a preview of what is coming up to PE4 in the near future, notice how the waves keeps the detail and the foams movement when the waves moves.
Youtube video of wave formula for PE4 WIP (8mb)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSRW0v-pW0)
Looks real, well more seasick pills on order :rotfl:

[Will-Rommel]

Looks interresting!

[kriller2]

Thanks Gunfighter,
Here is one more of the new scene in calm waves (click on the picture) if you have a fast connection try click on the "Watch in high quality" ;)

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/1672/pe4sunsetrk6.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cosEytzue20)

[ivank]

@ Kriller2: Why do I not see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K0pT69wYE in the game>?

[kriller2]

@ Kriller2: I'm thinking of making of just making my own "patch" to make the mod more "Atlantic style", if thats ok w/ you, and I wanted to know how do I edit the storms(wave heights) in the game?

Okay. You will have to download the program S9D it's an gui-tool for editing the file "scene.dat", then you need to look at the 4 different wave states, but there are alot of limits to how high and how you can make the waves without getting a flying submarine and strange waves.

[ivank]

@ Kriller2: I'm thinking of making of just making my own "patch" to make the mod more "Atlantic style", if thats ok w/ you, and I wanted to know how do I edit the storms(wave heights) in the game?
Okay. You will have to download the program S9D it's an gui-tool for editing the file "scene.dat", then you need to look at the 4 different wave states, but there are alot of limits to how high and how you can make the waves without getting a flying submarine and strange waves.

Ok thanks, I will download S9D now! and this is for my Surface Warfare SM not submarines.

Did you see my last update?

EDIT: Where do I get S9D?

[ivank]

another another question: i noticed you changed the gun smoke a little and I was going to make the big guns smoke black how do I go about this?

[Task Force]

Veary Veary good Kriller.:huh: Any chance that this effect for the shoreline is gona be in 4.1 or later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K0pT69wYE

[skookum]

Wondering about the clouds. Can you slow them down a bit? It looks as if they are running in time lapse.

[W_clear]

You release one, I released one, one after another, the release. Very interesting, I think the players here will be very happy.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :up:

[Kruger]

Kriller, thank you. I am sure that everyone here appreciates here all the mods and the work involved. I look forward to this release. The game is getting better and better everyday.

[kriller2]

You release one, I released one, one after another, the release. Very interesting, I think the players here will be very happy.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :up:
...yes you are right it's interesting... :hmm: ...... One after another a new release... :rotfl: :rotfl: , I wasn't going to work on another version for a long time , but then I suddenly found out a new way of working with the scene.dat to increase the details of the waves by a power of 2 and here we go again :up:

[ivank]

where do I get S9D? I have S3D is it from the same place?

[kriller2]

where do I get S9D? I have S3D is it from the same place?
Hi Ivan, on this forum there i a sticky thread about the program ;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Way to keep pushing the envelope k2 :yep::up:


RDP

[ivank]

where do I get S9D? I have S3D is it from the same place? Hi Ivan, on this forum there i a sticky thread about the program ;)

I still only see S3D not S9D!

[Task Force]

Is there anyway I can use the clouds W clears clouds with PE4.:D

[donut]

Is there anyway I can use the clouds W clears clouds with PE4.:D
& replace the striped Sea,also.:sunny:

[Task Force]

Hopefuly Pe 4.1 will fix the striped sea bug.:D

[kriller2]

Hopefuly Pe 4.1 will fix the striped sea bug.:D

Yes it will..There will not be any release of PE4.1 without that bug corrected. It takes some work to make Wclears wave formula working with my work though.

[Task Force]

I know ive asked acouple of tmies, what happend to the transparent blue shorelines I was realy looking foward to that.:yep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K0pT69wYE

[kriller2]

@Taskforce, we had to abandon the project with the shallow water due to some problems with the way the engine works.

[Task Force]

Oah...:-? Well cant wait for the patch.:up:

[keltos01]

Great job ! I tried the Envoronment 5.0 yesterday, I can't seem to see the real difference btween the two ? could you guys post screens of both, side by side ?

btw it is looking like the real thing now ! just wish those subs could get dirty/rusty with time...

keltos

[The General]

@K2

From your videos I notice that the wind noise is about the right level, but with all iterations of SH4 I have seen, the waves are never loud enough. As part of PE 4.1 can you increase the sound of the sea? Afterall, sound is part of the environment too.

[kriller2]

@K2

From your videos I notice that the wind noise is about the right level, but with all iterations of SH4 I have seen, the waves are never loud enough. As part of PE 4.1 can you increase the sound of the sea? Afterall, sound is part of the environment too.

Hi General, yes your right. I am making some changes to the sounds in the new PE so that there will be a new sound for the submarines splash into big waves and the sound of water passing the submarine, now that Wclear got it working I have allso found out a way to have more gentle waves in storm, but still keep the sound, will try to make a video of it when im satisfied with it...

BTW I have been very busy at work that's why it's been quiet in this thread.

[kriller2]

Great job ! I tried the Envoronment 5.0 yesterday, I can't seem to see the real difference btween the two ? could you guys post screens of both, side by side ?

btw it is looking like the real thing now ! just wish those subs could get dirty/rusty with time...

keltos

Thanks Keltos! :up: yes it's getting there, but it's takes time to make it all work together without getting the black silver sea at sunsets.
You should try both mods, I think that both of them have there strong points, but it's up the users to decide which they like.

[kriller2]

I have found out a new way to make the clouds very detailed, what do you think?
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6509/pe5wipdl2.th.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wipdl2.jpg)http://img238.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/2742/pe5wipcloudseh5.th.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wipcloudseh5.jpg)http://img238.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7757/pe5wipclouds2xp8.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wipclouds2xp8.jpg)http://img369.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Click on the pictures...

[Donner]

< BAM!!! >

That sound you heard was my jaw hitting the floor! :yep:

Beautiful!!! :up: :sunny:

[DeepIron]

Criminy K2! :huh: Oh screw it! I was going to upgrade my video card but now it'll have to be the whole dang box! Outstanding work sir! I believe this is your finest work yet!

[Captain Dave]

Man, It looks like you were out on the sea taking pics. That's your best work yet!!!!!!:up:

[Task Force]

Beautiful.:D

[LukeFF]

I have found out a new way to make the clouds very detailed, what do you think?

Looks superb!

[Munchausen]

:up: And no fractals that I can see. Very nice.

[kriller2]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

Here is two more, with new highres seafoam :p
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2085/pe5wip2xn2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2xn2.jpg)http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7643/pe5wip2foamap0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2foamap0.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

This thing is begining to look like reality?

BTW screenshots are taken with 4xAA + 16AF and adaptive aa with multisampling, no editing!

[Nisgeis]

Looking very good Kriller.

[DeepIron]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

Here is two more, with new highres seafoam :p
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2085/pe5wip2xn2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2xn2.jpg)http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7643/pe5wip2foamap0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2foamap0.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

This thing is begining to look like reality?

BTW screenshots are taken with 4xAA + 16AF and adaptive aa with multisampling, no editing!To date, I think those are the two most realistic shots I've seen... Texture, color, foam all seem to be correct for the northern latitudes, I'd say above 40 north or so. IMO, adding a tad of green should get you in the ballpark for the southern ones... :up:

[Fish40]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

Here is two more, with new highres seafoam :p
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2085/pe5wip2xn2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2xn2.jpg)http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7643/pe5wip2foamap0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2foamap0.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

This thing is begining to look like reality?

BTW screenshots are taken with 4xAA + 16AF and adaptive aa with multisampling, no editing!



Looks great! But; :o GULP! I'm beginning to hear my FRs' grind to a halt:cry:

[kriller2]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

Here is two more, with new highres seafoam :p
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2085/pe5wip2xn2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2xn2.jpg)http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7643/pe5wip2foamap0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2foamap0.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

This thing is begining to look like reality?

BTW screenshots are taken with 4xAA + 16AF and adaptive aa with multisampling, no editing!



Looks great! But; :o GULP! I'm beginning to hear my FRs' grind to a halt:cry:

Unless you have a very old rig, there shouldn't be to much of FPS hit, the above runs on my dual x2 5200+ and a radeon 3850 with 35 fps, but there will be an option to install lowres seafoam and clouds! :up:

[kriller2]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

Here is two more, with new highres seafoam :p
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2085/pe5wip2xn2.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2xn2.jpg)http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7643/pe5wip2foamap0.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pe5wip2foamap0.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

This thing is begining to look like reality?

BTW screenshots are taken with 4xAA + 16AF and adaptive aa with multisampling, no editing!To date, I think those are the two most realistic shots I've seen... Texture, color, foam all seem to be correct for the northern latitudes, I'd say above 40 north or so. IMO, adding a tad of green should get you in the ballpark for the southern ones... :up:

Thanks Deepirion, if I could get the game to choose between the 2 latitues I would make the water more green in those part of the pacific, but I don't know how to only edit that area, does anyone know how?

[Task Force]

Sooooo, any ideas on a release date?:D

[Arclight]

Very impressive. It's getting hard to believe you didn't just cut the sub out of a screenshot and pasted it in a real photo. :o

[gimpy117]

oh by the way where did you get the High res sub textures??

[Task Force]

Im think he got them here. http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/

[gAiNiAc]

Kriller, Looks fantastic! :rock:

[gimpy117]

Im think he got them here. http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/thanks!

[Tar1973]

When can I expect PE 4.1 to be available?

[kriller2]

When can I expect PE 4.1 to be available?
There is no ETA of this mod, I am currently working together with Wclear to give you guys the best of both PE and EE :D , so this project is laid down untill we come up with a mod which looks much better than both of those mods :hmm: which is an archivement in itself.. Both me and W_clear have hit the wall where it's getting harder and harder to squeeze more juice out of a rather old SH4 engine.

Sorry for keep you waiting, but there is no point in releasing a mod if it's not better than the old one and PE4 and W_Clears EE5-mod is currently as good as it gets.

We have done some breakthroughs, but are having some trouble with getting it all to work together, it takes time to make these mods :damn:

[ReallyDedPoet]

When can I expect PE 4.1 to be available? There is no ETA of this mod, I am currently working together with Wclear to give you guys the best of both PE and EE :D , so this project is laid down untill we come up with a mod which looks much better than both of those mods :hmm:

Nice, look forward to it k2 :yep::up:


RDP

[Syxx_Killer]

There is no ETA of this mod, I am currently working together with Wclear to give you guys the best of both PE and EE :D , so this project is laid down untill we come up with a mod which looks much better than both of those mods :hmm: which is an archivement in itself.. Both me and W_clear have hit the wall where it's getting harder and harder to squeeze more juice out of a rather old SH4 engine.

Sorry for keep you waiting, but there is no point in releasing a mod if it's not better than the old one and PE4 and W_Clears EE5-mod is currently as good as it gets.

We have done some breakthroughs, but are having some trouble with getting it all to work together, it takes time to make these mods :damn:

Take all the time you need! Having the best of both worlds will be nothing short of awesome. I look forward to this mod, but I can wait as long as I need to if it means it will be epic or not. :yep::up::rock:

[Fish40]

Good luck to the both of you! I'm really enjoying PE4 with RFB. You guys have some real talent here:up: Thanks for your hard work:yep:

[Kruger]

Just please...make sure to retain the camera movement from PE :D:D

[Griffon345]

Excellent news on the combines mod. The choices sometimes make my head hurt (and force me into port too often). End up assessing mods more than playing the sim! Waiting in anticipation.

[Carotio]

Long time no news about this. *caugh*

Besides, have you had time to look at the new camera file, which I sent you? ;)

[kriller2]

Hi Coratio,
Yes it has. vacation and family have kept me away from trying your newest camera file,sorry about that will check out your new camera file today :yep:

BTW to all of you who think the real environment mod project is dead, this is not the case, but me and wclear have been working very hard before christmas on merging our mods and have found alot of ways to enhance the experience of actualy being in the middle of the sea, here is a list of what we have archived:

- Realistic seafoam
- More realistic clouds
- Ocean behaviour under different wind conditions reworked by both me and Wclear, so now you will have nice reflections and no black seawater in all conditions
- Postprocess filtering tweaked
- Realistic landscape textures
-Tweaked water shader, original by Nisgeis tweaked by both of us.
- new ocean sound for the submarine when it hits the waves and sound of waves around the sub

Our mod is goind into a testing phase this week, so hopefully it should be finished within this month.

Thanks for all the feedback in both this thread and the PE3 thread.

Here is a little teaser:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/224/realenvironmentmod11janbw0.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=realenvironmentmod11janbw0.jpg)

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1875/realenvironmentseafoammsz4.th.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=realenvironmentseafoammsz4.jpg)
Long time no news about this. *caugh*

Besides, have you had time to look at the new camera file, which I sent you? ;)

[Ishigami]

Awesome :up:

[tomoose]

.....the original devs had the patience and wherewithall that you are applying to the game.
Thanks very much for your time and effort, no doubt this mod will be worth the wait.

[clayman]

Beautiful .... the sea foam is amazing :up:

[Task Force]

My computers only issue is Fog/particles.:yep: wonder why.:hmm:

And as said before. This mod looks GREAT!!!!

[LukeFF]

Looking very good, Christian! :yep:

[Fish40]

Beautiful .... the sea foam is amazing :up:



I totally agree! This is the most realistic looking seafoam I've seen to date:up: Keep up the great work. Greatly looking forwards to the release of this masterpiece:yep:

[Carotio]

Beautiful .... the sea foam is amazing :up:



I totally agree! This is the most realistic looking seafoam I've seen to date:up: Keep up the great work. Greatly looking forwards to the release of this masterpiece:yep:

It looks very much like the seafoam from Jaketoox, previously available in PE/ROW.
I wouldn't mind seeing that back again. It is by far the best made IMHO.

[kriller2]

Beautiful .... the sea foam is amazing :up:



I totally agree! This is the most realistic looking seafoam I've seen to date:up: Keep up the great work. Greatly looking forwards to the release of this masterpiece:yep:

It looks very much like the seafoam from Jaketoox, previously available in PE/ROW.
I wouldn't mind seeing that back again. It is by far the best made IMHO.

Are you sure don't mean Seeadlers seafoam Coratio?, here is a link to Jaketoox seafoam which look different.
http://files.filefront.com/ROW+NEW+SeaFoam+from+Jakeox7z/;8976112;/fileinfo.html

The new seafoam me and wclear have made is a brand new texture made from a real highres picture of seafoam which doesn't have the pattern which could be seen in the seafoam it does however look abit like Seeadlers seafoam which in my oppinion is the best so far.

BTW Im testing your camera file now ;)

[Carotio]

Are you sure don't mean Seeadlers seafoam Coratio?, here is a link to Jaketoox seafoam which look different.
http://files.filefront.com/ROW+NEW+SeaFoam+from+Jakeox7z/;8976112;/fileinfo.html

The new seafoam me and wclear have made is a brand new texture made from a real highres picture of seafoam which doesn't have the pattern which could be seen in the seafoam it does however look abit like Seeadlers seafoam which in my oppinion is the best so far.

BTW Im testing your camera file now ;)

Yes, I'm sure, I meant Jaketoox. If you schroll down in the old ROW thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=130150
And look at the seafoams, there is the huge 200mb seafoam high-res mod from Jaketoox. And yes, the screenshot above in this thread looked like that one.

However completely avoiding some sort of pattern in environment textures is hard to avoid if using the camera from high altitudes, but seen from the boat, they sure look very real. So I look forward to see the new one.

Btw, back to oa instead of ao? ;) (alias)