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keltos01
10-06-08, 06:01 AM
I had a few from the "US mission to Japan 1946" but they're all very dark and bad.. (available on my filefront page in pdf format, got it from the fischer-tropsch archive :
http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ_toc.htm)

Can anyone find good pictures of the interior of any Japanese submarines and post them on filefront for instance ?

even outside detailed pictures are welcome off course !

as are : japanese color schemes for submarines.

Keltso

keltos01
10-06-08, 07:36 AM
dive planes on YU 3 :

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4967/0845505hq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/0845505hq0.jpg/1/w1762.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img219/0845505hq0.jpg/1/)

other pic of inside :

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3631/0845504st6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/0845504st6.jpg/1/w1789.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img380/0845504st6.jpg/1/)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08455.htm

torpedo room of I-58 :

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4385/i58torpedoroomdj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/i58torpedoroomdj9.jpg/1/w688.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img115/i58torpedoroomdj9.jpg/1/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I-58TorpedoRoom.jpg

Hitman
10-06-08, 08:01 AM
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japsh-i/i58.htm
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/japan/japtp-ss/mdg-d-5.htm
http://news.webshots.com/album/53792226lVDtTu

I-25
10-06-08, 11:55 AM
No inside pics but pretty dam interesting

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~k_yasuto/kaiten/top.htm

mktkh
10-07-08, 09:27 AM
To our regret, most of the photograph of the submarine of Japan has been lost.
However, the movie made during the war for propaganda seems to remain.
戦記映画 復刻版シリーズ 9 撃沈 ~印度洋潜水艦作戦記録~
http://pics.dmm.com/mono/movie/n_761dnn679/n_761dnn679pl.jpg
Sorry,I cannot speak English so much.

keltos01
10-07-08, 09:42 AM
go chin ? I have it :)

do you know of any other ??

keltos

Hitman
10-07-08, 10:39 AM
The only good thing about this lack of information about how the real interiors of japanese subs were, is that you can do your custom one and no rivet counter will be able to complain with a basis :lol:

As i already said somewhere else, just do something different from the U-Boat and use it for all japanese subs, I'm sure it will look good enough :up:

keltos01
10-07-08, 11:06 AM
If and when I start the interior, I'd like a bit of data though.. like the first two pictures :)

mktkh
10-07-08, 11:10 AM
Because it photographs making use of the American submarine and the like, the movie other than that differs from the real thing largely.
But, the recent movie uses the set which is close to the real thing on the basis of historical record.
出口のない海
http://visual.ponycanyon.co.jp/pickup/movie/pcbe51520/images/jk01.jpg

keltos01
10-07-08, 11:22 AM
could you post parts of it on utube or filefront ? I'd love to see that...

mktkh
10-07-08, 11:47 AM
a trailer
http://meta.yahoo-streaming.jp/webevents/yahoo/movie/deguchi-movie/trailer01_1m.asx

keltos01
10-07-08, 12:52 PM
thanks a lot ! :up:

I can't open the page ???

and a warm welcome to subsim mktkh ! :yep:

keltos

nikimcbee
10-12-08, 11:54 PM
When I get moved, I'll look through my books

Task Force
10-12-08, 11:58 PM
Too bad that there isnt that much stuff on Japanease subs. Now I see why UBI didnt do SH4 with a Japanease campagine.:yep:

I-25
10-13-08, 11:20 AM
Finding reference would be a killer:doh:

Task Force
10-13-08, 11:24 AM
Yep, Maby there is some blueprints around somewhere.:yep:

keltos01
10-13-08, 04:19 PM
those sure exist but we lack pictures, we'd need someone to access declassified material and pictures of the IJN submarines, I'm sure they documented them thoroughly before sinking them

pythos
10-14-08, 09:51 PM
Oh my God, those sub interiors look WORSE than the interior of a type II german sub. Where the heck are the depth gauges in the first pic. I see dive plane wheels, but no gauges. At least the majority of the pipes in German subs were run along the ceiling.

keltos01
10-15-08, 12:40 AM
The first two pictures are from a "transport" submarine, end of war, maybe less well built.

I'll try and extract pictures from the movie Go Chin (1942) but they are dark usually... The depth gauge has a needle with a crescent at one end and like a can opener at the other.

I know the US Navy must've pictures of the inside of the captured japanese submarines, they must be declassified by now, anyone know where / how to get access to those and scan them ?

Keltos

keltos01
10-15-08, 12:44 AM
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5770/fa59e401i400dawnox3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/fa59e401i400dawnox3.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img517/fa59e401i400dawnox3.jpg/1/)



Like the Fischer Torpp archive, I know the US Navy must've pictures of the inside of the captured japanese submarines, they must be declassified by now, anyone know where / how to get access to those and scan them ?

Keltos

US naval mission to japan 1946
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/guides/japan.htm


Fischer-Tropsch archive US Naval mission to Japan 1946, pdf files (also available on my FF page):

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/primary_documents/gvt_reports/USNAVY/USNTMJ%20Reports/USNTMJ_toc.htm

I-25
10-15-08, 01:34 PM
Oh my God, those sub interiors look WORSE than the interior of a type II german sub. Where the heck are the depth gauges in the first pic. I see dive plane wheels, but no gauges. At least the majority of the pipes in German subs were run along the ceiling.

Yea those were transpor submarines, even odder they were ARMY not navy subs:-? thats why they look so.. well $hitty

the navy subs were MUCH nicer than those

keltos01
10-18-08, 05:11 PM
so do you think anyone of you guys could have a do at trying to get that data concerning the IJN subs that's declassified ? I sure as heck can't do that from Belgium....


Keltos