[WIP] "San Giorgio" italian armored cruiser

[VonDos]

Hi everyone!
As said by Denis, greek Averof cruiser is extremely similar, in weapons configuration, to italian San Giorgio armored cruiser.
Funnels and masts are a little different, but this is easy to solve.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7926/rmsgiorgiokq5.jpg
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/ships/ships-italy/rn-san-giorgio-1940-coastal-defense-ship.gif

Give an eye:

http://www.marina.difesa.it/storia/almanacco/parte04/images/Foto04g/n0417-00hg.jpg

While waiting for RMS Laconia, this can be another "small work"

San Giorgio data:

10167t -- 140,9 mt long -- 21 mt width -- 8 mt draft -- 23,2 knots speed
2 propellers -- 2 masts -- 2 funnels

4 x 254/35 mm (main armament)
8 x 190/45 mm (secondary armament)

A\A
10 x 47 mm
6 x 54 mm
12 x 20 mm
14 light mg 13,2 mm

ps i've found interesting things related with SS America; i've seen a wip british carrier in progress, so i think i'll return to liners soon ^_^

[denis_469]

As you see in picture weapons was:
2 х 2 — 254-мм/45, 4x2 — 190-мм/45, 5 х 2 — 100-мм/47, 6x2 — 20-мм/65, 7x2 — 13,2-мм.
And all.
Other weapons was dismontle.
Speed 18,6 kts after modernisation.

[mr chris]

Hope this helps.

http://www.steelnavy.com/DelphisSanGiorgioJB.htm

http://www.vitesseoblige.org/MyWEB/Clollezioni/Images/DSC01021.JPG

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/MrChris99/RNSanGiorgio2.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa286/MrChris99/RNSanGiorgio.jpg


OT, Does anyone know if any of these ships are in game?

http://www.steelnavy.com/RMMontecuccoliCM.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/RMAttendoloAC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/DelphisBolzanoAC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/OntarioSC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/AirfixPerthRSmith.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/AlgerieMLason.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/CombrigCanberraNT.htm

[Reise]

OT, Does anyone know if any of these ships are in game?

http://www.steelnavy.com/RMMontecuccoliCM.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/RMAttendoloAC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/DelphisBolzanoAC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/OntarioSC.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/AirfixPerthRSmith.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/AlgerieMLason.htm

http://www.steelnavy.com/CombrigCanberraNT.htm

Only last link Canberra is in game

[geosub1978]

With WW1 era configuration (two double funnels), San Giorgio was a much more beautiful ship. If you can wait, I can find some pictures.

For history, San Giorgio was the first steam turbine cruiser of the Italian Navy and was bombed in TOBRUK 1942 making her a total loss.

[VonDos]

FIRST ingame image °_°
there are a lot of errors, a\a guns need to be changed; platforms for a\a aren't placed, need revise coordinates ecc... ok; this is just first impression:

http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/ships/ships-italy/rn-san-giorgio-1940-coastal-defense-ship.gif
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3123/rowyf0.jpg

Please say me what do you think about this ^_^ advices, impressions ecc are welcome!

[Buhring]

For history, San Giorgio ... was bombed in TOBRUK 1942 making her a total loss.
That is not quite correct. San Giorgio was scuttled on january 22, 1941 by her own crew in Tobruk as per Italian Navy HQ orders, after having defended the harbour from English attacks for seven months.

The ship and her last commander, Stefano Pugliese, have been awarded the Medaglia d'oro al Valor Militare.

After the war, San Giorgio's wreck was refloated and towed away from Tobruk, in order to send it in Italy for demolition, but she broke the tow cables and sank in the Mediterranean.

VDOS: if you PM me a mail address, I can send you some photos and tables from the Giorgerini-Nani volume on Italian cruisers

Gute Jagd

HB

[Reise]

Wasnt there a sister ship that the Germans took over in 43 ?

[Buhring]

Wasnt there a sister ship that the Germans took over in 43 ?

She was the San Marco, but she had been disarmed in 1929 and transformed in a remotely controlled target ship. The Germans captured her at La Spezia after the armistice (on sep. 9, 1943), but never employed her.

She was found sunk in the La Spezia harbour at the Liberation.

Gute Jagd

Buhring

[Buhring]

A\A
10 x 47 mm
6 x 54 mm
12 x 20 mm
14 light mg 13,2 mm


In the 1937-1938 refurbishment San Giorgio received 4 twin 100mm 47 cal. turrets; a fifth was fitted on the bow (along with more AA light guns) when the ship was ordered to serve as a stationary defense for Tobruk.

Gute Jagd

Buhring

[geosub1978]

That is not quite correct. San Giorgio was scuttled on january 22, 1941 by her own crew in Tobruk as per Italian Navy HQ orders, after having defended the harbour from English attacks for seven months.

The ship and her last commander, Stefano Pugliese, have been awarded the Medaglia d'oro al Valor Militare.

After the war, San Giorgio's wreck was refloated and towed away from Tobruk, in order to send it in Italy for demolition, but she broke the tow cables and sank in the Mediterranean.
HB

Hmm! My source is an old greek book...Anyway!
I noticed that on the right side of AVEROF's bridge, under the windows, there are some strange shadows, while on the left side there are not.
Am I wrong?

[geosub1978]

Also:

Check these WW1 era photos which look more interesting:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/italian_cruisers.htm

http://www.regiamarina.net/others/sangiorgio/sangiorgio_us.htm

[Task Force]

Veary nice VonDos.;) As are all your ships.:yep:

[C.V. Montobbio]

In the Official M.M.I. Web Site...

http://www.marina.difesa.it/storia/almanacco/parte04/navi0417.asp

For Photos and Postal Documents:

http://www.baracchi.com/gianni/nave%20san%20giorgio/la%20storia/arremba_san_zorzo.html

For more info and historical data:

http://libri.dvd.it/storia-d%27europa/arremba-san-zorzo-vita-e-morte-dell-incrociatore-san-giorgio/dettaglio/id-296931/

Arremba San Zorso, Vita e Morte Dell'Incrociatore San Giorgio.


I'm at your disposal for translations, clarification and all possible questions. Sorry for my bad English and... Arrivederci ;).

[VonDos]

Thanks for infos ^^ really usefull!

[VonDos]

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1904/titanicjx7.jpg

[Hunter]

I think AA twins should be 100-mm not 120-mms

[denis_469]

In ship stern 6x2 20mm AA guns need instead you guns.

[VonDos]

Yes, weapons are under placement (some nodes are also in wrong position).
For now i'm working on 3d model; guns are just an impression.

[C.V. Montobbio]

Nice! it looks good... er... sunkable! :rotfl:

[VonDos]

Thanks mate ^^
I'm placing weapons nodes now.

[Jimbuna]

Looking forward to it VD http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[geosub1978]

I finally found it: (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4524/picture1uh9.jpg)

San Marco and San Giorgio 1923:
This makes clear that SAN MARCO had steam turbine and SAN GIORGIO had the old triple expansion engines. Details for anyone interested.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6007/picture002wp7.jpg

[VonDos]

@geosub

Thanks for this material, mate, but i'm building a ww2 ship.
WWI San Giorgio was more beauty than after rebuilding, i agree, but History is History. If someone is interested in remod her in ww1 configuration, will be welcome :up:

[VonDos]

Now include Privateer Averoff guns (with permissions, thanks!!)
Image after today's work:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2241/titanican9.jpg

Comments?

[mr chris]

Great work VD and Privater.:up:

[Konovalov]

Awesome work guys and one suicidal U-boat Kaluen there in that shot above. :up:

[Jimbuna]

Looks nice http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[VonDos]

Thanks!

Is someone interested in beta test when this unit will be ready for?

[VonDos]

I've darkened a bit the wood bridge (see first post).
I think second funnel need some little improvements, next step is this.

EDIT:

Reworked funnel and sil file
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4694/titanicvs0.jpg

[geosub1978]

EXCELLENT!!!
New perfect warships, correctly placed in campaign are:sunny:!

[VonDos]

Thanks, mate ^_^
Is someone interested in beta test? Model is finished now :lol:

[neu seewolf]

Hi Von Dos. I would be willing to test the San Giorgio. The screen shots you have posted look very promising. I would also be willing to test your Laconia if you still need any testers on that one.

[piri_reis]

I could contribute with the testing, plz PM me if it's still up for grabs;
and; Great job with the model as usual :up:

[VonDos]

pm send to beta tester ^^

About Laconia, release will be soon, test are finished.
Just some small small things must be fixed.

[piri_reis]

San Giorgio fending off attacks by British Aircraft while being pursued by a brave Fuji Cruiser.

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[VonDos]

Great images sequence! Thanks! Those beta tests are hard!

Edit:

first modifications ->
1) Correct 7,5" rotation angle DONE (tec bug)
2) Ship name only on starboard DONE (historic)

[VonDos]

I think beta test are finished ^_^ a couple of errors have been fixed; a last day for tester reports, in case something is bad.
If all is ok, tomorrow i'll release San Giorgio!

[evan82]

Good Job VanDos:rock:I reading this topic from long time, and I use your ships.:rock:
Convoys look's much better, look's great now:yep: and I thank You and Privater for wonderful warships also :rock:.