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USS Sea Tiger
09-03-08, 10:06 PM
Does anyone know a source or have a copy of plans for U-Duetschland of QWWI Fame. Also Known as U-151 klasse

Thank you

Reece
09-03-08, 11:09 PM
U-Deutschland, after her first cruise, was renamed U 155, her sister ship U 151 was the record holder for the longest single patrol, Martin Niemoller was "Number One" of this boat! I have drawings for U-cruisers U 139/141 and general arangement diagrams for U 151/154 (though they are a little grainy), also pictures of U 140 & 152. I can upload if you want, I would PM Mush Martin for probably better information.:yep:

baggygreen
09-04-08, 01:20 AM
Interesting Reece,

Looking into U155 their 105 day patrol had no ships sunk and no attacks against it - in late 44, even though they went along a well-travelled route...

Reece
09-04-08, 02:01 AM
U 155 (WW1, scrapped in 1922) was used for, on the first cruise anyway, purely as a cargo "ship", to sneak through the English channel with contraband, was a sucess too!:yep: U 151 was for war patrols & sunk a quite few ships!:yep:

GerritJ9
09-04-08, 02:48 AM
Actually, "Deutschland" made TWO successful round trips as a cargo sub to the US in 1916, not one. She was being prepared for a third voyage when Germany declared unrestricted submarine warfare in January 1917; the voyage was cancelled and "Deutschland" converted for more warlike purposes.
"Deutschland" was the first of a class of merchant submarines to be completed; the second, "Bremen", was lost with all hands during her first outward-bound voyage in 1916- cause of loss unknown, but probably a diving accident. The others were still in varying stages of construction in January 1917 though at least one had been given a name, "Oldenburg". All of them were, like "Deutschland", converted for military use and used as long-range U-cruisers though suffering from limitations due to their design being originally intended for civilian purposes.

Reece
09-04-08, 05:46 AM
Actually, "Deutschland" made TWO successful round trips as a cargo sub to the US in 1916, not one.Yes I should have read a bit further, after the cargo trips she was fitted out for war purposes & renamed to U 155, the first war patrol lasted 100 days operating chiefly off the coast of Gibralter, returned in September 1917, according to Niemollers book, sinking around 40,000 tons of shipping.:yep:

USS Sea Tiger
09-04-08, 06:07 AM
In Rossler's "The U-boat" there a re a few views but I am needing a Sheer view (end view showing the frames) of her hull so I can get the curves as accurate as possible.
My intentions are to include these as German Merchant traffic in the WWI sim I am working on

G.K.
09-04-08, 06:10 AM
My intentions are to include these as German Merchant traffic in the WWI sim I am working on

Hmmm... and would it be playable as U-kreuzer?:hmm:

Reece
09-04-08, 07:37 AM
@ USS Sea Tiger, you have a PM!:yep:

GerritJ9
09-05-08, 03:41 AM
May I suggest "The Merchant U-Boat" by Dwight R. Messimer, which describes "Deutschland"'s careers as commercial sub and as U-Kreuzer U-155.

USS Sea Tiger
09-05-08, 05:47 AM
I will probably make her as a friendly merchant,, something you might just encounter out there, just as you might encounter a E or B class Brit sub, Never know what you will find on that ocean!.

as for an active vessel,, Not sure yet, they were converted way late in the war.