Obama's speech.

[Fish]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/28/AR2008082804236.html

[Skybird]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.

[Koondawg]

All a bunch of wind IMO, lets actually see if he will do what he says once in office.

KD

[AVGWarhawk]

As I listened to the speach all I could think of was a high school kid going for class president. Full of outlandish promises that will not be delivered. Coke machines in each classroom and lunch period will be 3 hours long. This is what I will do if elected class president. In reality, I believe Obama is sincere but I believe he has really not been hit with the reality of the situation in getting something done. Not to mention what he proposes will cost trillions of dollars. Were does he propose to get this money? Large corporations? No problem, they will let this new found tax trickle down to the consumer. I believe he means well and all sounds just cherry but I think he is looking at the situation in rose colored glasses. This countries problems are rooted much deeper then I think he realizes. Obama is a deep thinker IMO and has the energy to take it on but to change Washington means to do a complete cleaning of the old school that are there now and will be if and when he is put into office. He said there will be a definitive date set to get out of Iraq. I think that has been set already for 2011. Perhaps he was not around when that decision was made. I suspect he was not. Much like most of his voting record...he was not around. I think Obama needs more time as a Senator before taking the helm. Again, his speach said very little on how he plans on accomplishing these goals. We heard much the same over the past 18 months. What we are going to do without a plan. I guess his plan is leaning on Biden. Not much of a plan and furthermore, Biden is old school. Exactly what he spoke on in the past 18 months. Change Washington. Change the thinking. Biden is the old school thinking. I think at this point several debates between McCain and Obama are called for. Remove the poking and baiting from the debates. Get to the real issues and solutions.

[Digital_Trucker]

Obama's voting record speaks much more eloquently about the man than the man does. Unfortunately, if he becomes president, "Present" isn't an option.

[Jimbuna]

All a bunch of wind IMO, lets actually see if he will do what he says once in office.

KD

He struck me as being little different to those political con merchants in Westminster.

Actions always speak louder than words.

[TDK1044]

"I have a theme."......And it's working! :D

[Thomen]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.

You need to brush up on your English, Sky. While McCain seems to have some problems with remembering things, Obama is a pretty bad speaker if has no notes or prepared speech. I am not even sure that Bush was better before he got his rhetoric's training.
Don't get me wrong. I kinda like the guy. I find him charismatic and wouldnt' mind having him as a neighbor.

[AVGWarhawk]

"I have a theme."......And it's working! :D

Never a better statement. The theme of 'Change' is working for him. My thinking is he wants 'change' and your paper money also. How else is he going to make it work? Talking about it and voting on it is all well and good. Financing is something all together different. He said he is going to tap the natural gas resources and nuclear power to get the US off oil. At least he is thinking about nuclear power and other energy alternatives. I do not think drilling off the coast is a stop gap solution as he believes it is. It is one of many parts to make the whole over all energy scheme. I seriously do not think oil will be a thing of the past during my life time on this mud ball we call earth. As far as healthcare, what needs to be done is reducing the cost of healthcare. It is just out of control. From doctors on down to the pharmacist. This needs to be looked at under a microscope.

[FIREWALL]

I want to hear from BOTH of them how their going to bring the companys back that went south or over seas and do something about the HIGH unemployment in the USA.

Simple math. The more you have employed, The more taxes you have to spend on programs.

[Jimbuna]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.

You need to brush up on your English, Sky. While McCain seems to have some problems with remembering things, Obama is a pretty bad speaker if has no notes or prepared speech. I am not even sure that Bush was better before he got his rhetoric's training.
Don't get me wrong. I kinda like the guy. I find him charismatic and wouldnt' mind having him as a neighbor.

Your kidding....cops watching your every move, getting searched every time you enter or leave the house :lol:

[FIREWALL]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.


You state he's Truly Endowed. :yep: Doe's that mean he's a Big *****. :p :rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.

You state he's Truly Endowed. :yep: Doe's that mean he's a Big *****. :p :rotfl:

I thought the same thing Firewall but was not going to say anything :rotfl:

[FIREWALL]

Think about Obama what you want, trust him or not, no matter, one thing is clear and must be admitted: the man is a truly endowed and brilliant speaker, and has a team of not less brilliant speech-writers. In that he probably is unique in the landscape of western politicians.

By this I wish to say nothing pro or contra about his competence and experience.

You state he's Truly Endowed. :yep: Doe's that mean he's a Big *****. :p :rotfl:

I thought the same thing Firewall but was not going to say anything :rotfl::up: :D

[AVGWarhawk]

I want to hear from BOTH of them how their going to bring the companys back that went south or over seas and do something about the HIGH unemployment in the USA.

Simple math. The more you have employed, The more taxes you have to spend on programs.
To get the jobs back, the overseas jobs need to be returned to the US. This will take care of the high unemployment. This will also put more paychecks in the loop for collecting taxes. The only problem is goods and services will go up in price. Let's face it, having China make 99% of what Walmart stocks keeps prices down. Even with transporting the goods in containers overseas to our shores. As of late, I'm believing that isolation is needed in the US to get it back on track.

[Platapus]

I liked the part where he said that change does not come from Washington; change comes to Washington.

[Skybird]

Okay guys I get the joke, my excuse is that my dictionary really failed me.

be|gna|den [¢ÙÈᮡФ®] ptp begnadet vt (liter) to bless (liter), to endow; ein begnadeter Künstler / Musiker a gifted artist / musician
© Langenscheidt KG, Berlin und München und HarperCollins Publishers Ltd

A "gifted speaker" probably would have been better, but it sounded so profance so I picked the more promising exotic alternative... All jokes at my cost! :lol:

I do not take all he said as solid truth, Jim, but I heared his Berlin speech life and yesterday'S speech on Tv as well, and technically I can only say what I alredy said after Berlin: his speeches are extremely clever to get their job done and serve their intended purpose to move the audience at the intended direction.

[Frame57]

They all make great speeches. Once they get in they will never deliver and then they all blame the other party. Same crap different source but we all get dumped on.

[Nisgeis]

They all make great speeches. Once they get in they will never deliver and then they all blame the other party. Same crap different source but we all get dumped on.

As you specified an unidentified group of people, can you tell me which group of individuals do you mean by 'they'?

Do they all make great speeches?

Do they never deliver?

Do they always blame the other party?

[geetrue]

They all make great speeches. Once they get in they will never deliver and then they all blame the other party. Same crap different source but we all get dumped on.


Takes more than a few elections to see this ... I agree :yep:

[Skybird]

They all make great speeches. Once they get in they will never deliver and then they all blame the other party. Same crap different source but we all get dumped on.

As you specified an unidentified group of people, can you tell me which group of individuals do you mean by 'they'?

Do they all make great speeches?

Do they never deliver?

Do they always blame the other party?
Probably yes! :sunny:

[Frame57]

All politicians IMO:arrgh!:

[JHuschke]

I may be 15 but I still watch this! I was watching C-SPAN 2 the other night on Obama's speech, that is so bullcrap. "When I think about this woman does it reminds me of my grandmother, and this guy does it reminds me of my grandfather, and this guy does it reminds me of my father". He's acting as if he was more superior than anyone else. McCain deserves this, and Obama says "Not only does McCain not care, he doesn't get it."

[Steel_Tomb]

I hope McCain doesn't get in, he doesn't even know how many houses he owns ffs... and this man wants to be the commander in chief?! He is nothing but an older more impotent and stupid version of Bush. He stands there with that grin on his face, like the lights on but no one is home. I wasn't sure about Obama originally, I thought Hillary might have been a better choice, but Obama is the only sensible choice now. Do you want more of the same crap and failed foreign policy and economic choices or someone who MIGHT just make a difference. Obama isn't perfect by any strech of the imagination, but to me I believe that he at least has the WILL to make the way for change... and that to me is something very special. McCain will be just like Bush has, perhaps even worse if its possible... "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".:nope: