[WIP] Armed Merchant Cruiser / Hilfskreuzer Mod

[ivank]

Hilfskreuzer and Armed Merchant Cruiser Mod





**My computer is working again, however I have lost everything. Work on this mod will begin tommarrow**
Im working on a major mod to make the famous German Hilfkreuzer(raiders) and the British Armed Merchant Cruisers(AMC). Im going to release 3 AMC's, 8 Raiders. Since the raiders and AMC's are not already in the game I have taken the ships that look the most like them and edited them(change stacks, cranes, cargo, etc...). so the ships are not exactly the same as their real-life counterparts. Also the guns in the game that match the ones in real life are large, some of the smaller raiders have smaller 5.5in instead of 5.9in guns, still these guns are in no way hidden, they stick out(I am trying to fix this). For some reason my ships DO NOT work with PE3 submarine pitch and roll. I am trying to fix this

AMC
AMC Jervis Bay (WIP)
AMC Rawalpindi (WIP)

Hilfkreuzer
HK Pinquin (WIP)
HK Orion (WIP)
HK Komet (WIP)
HK Thor (WIP)
HK Widder (WIP)
HK Atlantis (WIP)
HK Kormoran (WIP)
HK Steir (WIP)

EDIT: I am currently working on the campaign files for my Kriegsmarine Mod, after I finish that, the campaign files for this mod will be complete. Then I just need to finish the ships and after that the Beta will be released!!

[ivank]

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[Dutchie-one]

Hilfskreuzer and Armed Merchant Cruiser Mod



Im working on a major mod to make the famous German Hilfkreuzer(raiders) and the British Armed Merchant Cruisers(AMC). Im going to release 3 AMC's and 5 Raiders.

AMC
AMC Carinthia
AMC Circassia
AMCRawalpindi


Hilfkreuzer
HK Pinquin
HK Orion
HK Komet
HK Thor
HK Widder

The ships should be done by next week, however I need some help on:

1) How do I change the start years for the game for the German side?
2) How do i make the ships start in Germany and in England?
3) How do i make more than one playable ship avaible?

As in real life the ships will be patrolling the Indain and South Alantic Oceans.

*If any one has questions or ideas please post them here.*
*If you can help me please PM me.*

Thank You.


What about the HK Atlantis ? you make it too ?

Gretz, Dutchie-one :up:

[Atlantis]

My Handle is after the HK Atlantis :P

[ivank]

someone already made the atlantis, with his permission i will include it

[ivank]

HK Thor is done. pictures will be posted later

[Atlantis]

You sir are a God.

[ivank]

thank you, but what makes me a god?

Edit: just started the HK Komet

[Atlantis]

Well the HK ships are a huge interest to me. I've spent months reading about them, collecting photos, etc, etc.

[ivank]

Well the HK ships are a huge interest to me. I've spent months reading about them, collecting photos, etc, etc.

glad to help out, i just finished reading 2 books about them:p

[ivank]

Well the HK ships are a huge interest to me. I've spent months reading about them, collecting photos, etc, etc.

then you can help me! do you have any blueprints or profile drawings of the ships im making?

[Atlantis]

I sure do, I have profile drawings of all of them, there not that great, but hey if they help then I'm glad. Also if ya need to know any information about these ships ask me man. I can tell ya. I'll pm you the links.

[ivank]

Thank you so much:D.
can you answer any of my questions in the 1st post?

[Atlantis]

Not a problem! I cant help with the game modding questions though, I know nothing of modding. I might be able to track down images of the AMCs if you need those.

[ivank]

oh ok, any help with pictures would be great

[ivank]

HMAS Sydney is almost done, the HK Atlantis, HK Pinguin, HK Orion and Hk Widder are next in line

[nautilus42]

HMAS Sydney is almost done, the HK Atlantis, HK Pinguin, HK Orion and Hk Widder are next in line


Why you build a ship that sunk in November 1941?, you never will see this ship in a Campaign.:nope:

Sunk by Kormoran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran) 19 November (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_19) 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941) from Wkipedia

greetings

nautilus42

[bigboywooly]

HMAS Sydney is almost done, the HK Atlantis, HK Pinguin, HK Orion and Hk Widder are next in line

Why you build a ship that sunk in November 1941?, you never will see this ship in a Campaign.:nope:

Sunk by Kormoran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran) 19 November (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_19) 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941) from Wkipedia

greetings

nautilus42

Hi nautilus

Sydney was one of 3 Perth class ( modified Leanders )
One managed to make it to wars end so will be good for that anyway

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=68

:up:

[ivank]

HMAS Sydney is almost done, the HK Atlantis, HK Pinguin, HK Orion and Hk Widder are next in line

Why you build a ship that sunk in November 1941?, you never will see this ship in a Campaign.:nope:

Sunk by Kormoran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran) 19 November (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_19) 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941) from Wkipedia

greetings

nautilus42

most of these ships were lost in 41 or 42 so they wouldnt show up in the game anyway, im trying to make the game start in 1940 thats why

[Atlantis]

HMAS Sydney is almost done, the HK Atlantis, HK Pinguin, HK Orion and Hk Widder are next in line

Why you build a ship that sunk in November 1941?, you never will see this ship in a Campaign.:nope:

Sunk by Kormoran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran) 19 November (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_19) 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941) from Wkipedia

greetings

nautilus42

Most of these ships were indeed sunk between 1941 to 1943, The Orion survived till 45, and the Widder survived the war, and went back to cargo hauling but got beached in 1955. And, nautilus42, just to combat your argument, The Bismarck which someone else made playable was sunk in May of 1941 and the Graff Spee which someone also made playable was sunk in 1939! So, your argument holds no water.

[nautilus42]

Sorry ivank, i thought it`s an AI-Ship. Keep on your work:up: .

[ivank]

The HK Pinguin, Atlantis, and Steir are done pictures to come

[ivank]

I know its not on the list but I just finished the USS Mohawk a subchaser

[ivank]

The HK Thor and HK Komet are almost done:up:, the HMAS Sydney is giving me problems:x.

Tonight I will upload pictures of all the ships that are done!
HK Pinguin
HK Atlantis
HK Steir
USS Mohawk
AMC Carinthia
HMS King George V

[ivank]

updated

[ivank]

For the AMC's

The Deck gun on the command tool bar doesnt show up its not lite up like everything else so they dont fire! I'm trying to figure this out!

[Atlantis]

Can we get a sneak peek of some of the HK ships?

[ivank]

yes im just about to take pictures of the Thor Steir Pinguin and Atlantis, the only ships working at the moment!

[ivank]

The Thor is not working:damn:; I will Finish the Komet, take pictures, upload them then re-do the Tho:shifty:r. Finish the Orion and Widder:up:. And try to figure out my none of my British ships work!:damn::hmm:

[ivank]

Yo Atlantis, could you re send the Steir pictures? I lost them:oops:, the Steir in the game will have a smaller funnel since when I try to get the larger one it appears black!

[ivank]

The HK Steir:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-28_150401_734.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-28_150356_718.jpg

[ivank]

HK Kormoran

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-26_222535_015.jpg

[ivank]

The Thor crashed, The Komet fires one broadside and capsizes!!:rotfl::damn::nope::down:. Working on the Orion and Widder. Then will fix the Komet

[Atlantis]

Yo Atlantis, could you re send the Steir pictures? I lost them:oops:, the Steir in the game will have a smaller funnel since when I try to get the larger one it appears black!
Sure, Expect a PM incoming.

[ivank]

ok thanks. How do you like the ships? I know their not exactly the same but I tried:D

[ivank]

Just finished the Orion and Widder. Having some problems with the smoke:damn:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-30_184824_843.jpg

[Atlantis]

ok thanks. How do you like the ships? I know their not exactly the same but I tried:D
They look Ammazing man!

[ivank]

thank you:D

[ivank]

Soon to be converted to the famous HK Komet

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-31_023953_546.jpg

[ivank]

Soon to be converted to the HK Thor

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-31_233902_312.jpg

[Atlantis]

Both look like great models for the ships!

[ivank]

thank you, I was worried that the models were not close enough to match

[ivank]

I need someone to texture my AMC Rawalpindi. If anyone can please PM me for the file!

[linerkiller]

good luck with the project Ivank...it's growing very nice:up: :yep: !

Will it be compatible with the latest Atlantic supermods?
Cheers

[ivank]

No it is its own supermod

[Atlantis]

Can't wait.

[linerkiller]

my favourite Hilfskreuzer (ww1;) ): the Kronprinz Wilhelm:cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Von_Steuben_(ID-3017)

http://www.maritimequest.com/liners/kronprinz_wilhelm_1901/kpw_05_pnsy.jpg
http://www.maritimequest.com/liners/kronprinz_wilhelm_1901/kpw_04_ny.jpg

15000 gross tons
25 knots max speed
2 x 88 mm guns
2 x 120 mm guns (from a prize ship)

Drive it would be my greatest dream:roll: :arrgh!:
...Maybe, one day...:ping:

[ivank]

your dream will become reality, I will make it. should I kept the guns she really had or update them?. I make on of vondoos ships the Raider!

[Yossarian1943]

I don´t understand how you will integrate this ship. Is it a completely new design?:hmm:

[Madox58]

Building a new unit is easy by SH3 standards.
Then the qiuck import to SH4 is a given.
:roll:
Building a new unit correctly for SH4 is a whole new ball game.
I've only seen 2 done correctly.
:lol:

[peabody]

Just finished the Orion and Widder. Having some problems with the smoke:damn:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z99/ivankl/SH4Img2008-08-30_184824_843.jpg

HK Widder smoke:

I don't use the smoke mod so it isn't as dark, but there it is:

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Epeabody/SH4/smoke.jpg

You may need to adjust the up/down a bit. Check it with the external camera, I just kind of put it back where it belongs didn't check it that close.

http://files.filefront.com/IvankWidderzip/;11708611;/fileinfo.html

Peabody

[ivank]

so are you saying that PE3 is the problem?

[Madox58]

so are you saying that PE3 is the problem?

I don't use most other mods when I work on a mod of my own.
And I also double check my work before I ask if someone elses mod
is messing with mine.

Check your work Mate.
As I have not seen anyone else point this issue out?
I suspect your work is flawed.

Take it for what it's worth.

[ivank]

Its the only mod that I have that changes the smoke.

[peabody]

Its the only mod that I have that changes the smoke.
Slow down guys, don't get your shorts in a bunch. The ship is like that stock, it is not the ship or PE3, so don't be blaming each other. You are both wrong, now go to your rooms.:arrgh!:

And nowhere did I mention PE3, I just said my smoke isn't dark.

Edit: oh, ya , You're welcome.

Peabody

[Madox58]

I guess I wasn't wrong then.
If it's a stock issue?
Any mod to the smoke, unless the area of emmision is corrected,
will show the same flaw.
And maybe I like my shorts all bunched up!!
:rotfl:
Gives me that LOVED feeling!!
:lol:

[peabody]

I guess I wasn't wrong then.
If it's a stock issue?
Any mod to the smoke, unless the area of emmision is corrected,
will show the same flaw.
And maybe I like my shorts all bunched up!!
:rotfl:
Gives me that LOVED feeling!!
:lol:

You are an Admiral, you need to set an example....ah....Sir. :lol: The flaw shows without the Mod. Just wanted to jump in before it got out of hand.
And how you like your shorts is way more information than I need.:rotfl:.

Peabody

[Madox58]

There are, if you really look?
Alot of slight mis-adjustments if you will.
:lol:
So you are correct.
A modded smoke will not change the area of emmision.
So it is infact a stock issue.
I don't deny that fact!!

What each and every modder needs look at?
Stock issues first!!

When you do a mod that does glareing results such as this?
You have not done your homework!!
:nope:

Now please excuse me while I bunch up my shorts a bit.
:rotfl:

[Yossarian1943]

your dream will become reality, I will make it. should I kept the guns she really had or update them?. I make on of vondoos ships the Raider!

is it possible to create the "S.M.S Emden" `?

http://www.modellbahnecke.de/bilder/revell/05041.jpg

[Madox58]

Yes it is possible.
But it was scuttled at Scapa Flow in 1919?
Unless your doing a WW1 mod?
It should not be in WW2

[ivank]

I have to agree with privateer on this, she wasnt in service in ww2 and was even a raider!

[Yossarian1943]

Yes it is possible.
But it was scuttled at Scapa Flow in 1919?
Unless your doing a WW1 mod?
It should not be in WW2

The "Emden" was sunk at Cocos Isl. / Northern Keeling in the Indian Ocean, the "Kronprinz Wilhelm" was in amican service till 1923. Then she was partitioned.;) Both served only in WW1.

I think a WW1 Mod would be nice, because there is no other game to play such famous ships as the Emden or Dresden.:)

[ivank]

Im only including the Kronprinz Wilhelm because it was a raider.

[linerkiller]

your dream will become reality, I will make it. should I kept the guns she really had or update them?. I make on of vondoos ships the Raider!:D WOW...im impressed!!!...yeah, i agree with the fact that she wasn't a ww2 ship, but she was really :|\\ ! For the model, i think that the best option is modifying a bit the british sh3 AMC...It's the most similar hull model I think.
Thank you:up:

[ivank]

This mods ETA has been pushed back in favor of making it a Total Conversion Mod. I and my team (if I can get a 3D modeler and a skinner) will be changing everything from the start screen to the start up movie!

Again I will post this:

If anyone wants to become a skinner for my Team please PM ASAP!!!!!
I also could use someone good at making warships playable to speed things up!!!!

[ivank]

just want to insure the people interested in this mod that it is still active, I working on the Kriegsmarine campaign now and will just edit it to fit the raiders!

[ivank]

For all you Surface Warfare Mod Team fans: we will start the Royal Navy, Hilfskreuzer mods after the Kriegsmarine mod! Then we are debabting doing a IJN, and USN mod!

[haegemon]

First to say you're doing an impressive job adding new ships and building a surface simulation.

On the other hand I got two questions:

1. When your mods (Kriegsmarine, Royal Navy, Merchant cruiser...etc) will be done, do you expect to pack them into a lone mod?

2.What compatibility can we expect with Operation Monsun or SRSD, and other major mods?

[ivank]

First to say you're doing an impressive job adding new ships and building a surface simulation.

On the other hand I got two questions:

1. When your mods (Kriegsmarine, Royal Navy, Merchant cruiser...etc) will be done, do you expect to pack them into a lone mod?

2.What compatibility can we expect with Operation Monsun or SRSD, and other major mods?

thank you for the consideration! to answer your questions:

1) they are to be separate as of now, we might join the Royal Navy and the Kriegsmarine mods together. The hoped for time of release is Nov. 24. 2008(my birthday)

2) They are not compatible with any campaign changing mods! is is its own super mod, anything we find that will be useful for the players will be included!

[DarkFish]

First to say you're doing an impressive job adding new ships and building a surface simulation.

On the other hand I got two questions:

1. When your mods (Kriegsmarine, Royal Navy, Merchant cruiser...etc) will be done, do you expect to pack them into a lone mod?

2.What compatibility can we expect with Operation Monsun or SRSD, and other major mods?
thank you for the consideration! to answer your questions:

1) they are to be separate as of now, we might join the Royal Navy and the Kriegsmarine mods together. The hoped for time of release is Nov. 24. 2008(my birthday)

2) They are not compatible with any campaign changing mods! is is its own super mod, anything we find that will be useful for the players will be included!But it won't be really incompatible, will it? the other mod's campaign won't work, but added ships should still be there, and the game should still work, or am I completely wrong?:-?

[ivank]

I dont think the mods are compatible period. SWSM changes everything from start up movie, main menu, ships, hopefully enviroment, ships, bases etc.. I guess as the mod comes together more we will find out

[ivank]

Im toying with the idea of releasing a Alpha version next week! Just need to hammer out some problems with the HK Komet and the AMC's!

[Sledgehammer427]

-snickers-
looks like ur swastika got taken out

[Sepp von Ch.]

I love the germans "Hilfskreuzer" - Auxiliary cruisers. Was this famous mod ever released please?

[BogdaNz]

where is it?