Is There A Mod To Make Flags Smaller?

[PacificSwordsman]

The flags on the ships appear too big to me, particularly on the American ships.

Is there a mod to make the flags smaller?

Thanks in advance.

[Webster]

well this has been talked about very much in many threads so i'll just sum up the results for you,

they are in fact very accurate size and shape to exactly copy real life flags as verified in many many war photos. many people didnt know they were that big and most movies dont show the actual flag size in a way that can have any scale to it so at first look it seems surprisingly big but that is the correct size.

now as to the question, i dont think there is a mod to make them smaller because of what i explained above it was generally agreed on not to be needed.

there are some that make the flags look dirty and change a few flags for accuracy but that is all i am aware of.

[PacificSwordsman]

Thanks for the info Webster. By the way, your mods are great and much appreciated.

[GoldenRivet]

I had wondered this myself, they do seem rather large, thanks webster!

[Webster]

Thanks for the info Webster. By the way, your mods are great and much appreciated.

thank you,

now if your still interested in making smaller flags there is probably a way to do it and im sure there are those who would prefer smaller than realistic flags just because they seem to look better. the flags are all located in one file, the game generates them according to preset sizes.

im not sure but i believe you need help from someone who can hex edit the file that decides how big to make it. as far as i know there is only a small group who understands what they are looking at in hex code and who knows how to do this or maybe you can learn to do it yourself. i'm sure they would be glad to help you learn, the hex type modding is where more people knowing how to do it would be a very good thing.

[gAiNiAc]

well this has been talked about very much in many threads so i'll just sum up the results for you,

they are in fact very accurate size and shape to exactly copy real life flags as verified in many many war photos. many people didnt know they were that big and most movies dont show the actual flag size in a way that can have any scale to it so at first look it seems surprisingly big but that is the correct size.

now as to the question, i dont think there is a mod to make them smaller because of what i explained above it was generally agreed on not to be needed.

there are some that make the flags look dirty and change a few flags for accuracy but that is all i am aware of.

Battle Ensigns are LARGE!

[Madox58]

To change the size requires redoing the animations.
Redo one animation and clone and you have them all.

[LukeFF]

To change the size requires redoing the animations.
Redo one animation and clone and you have them all.

And how does one do that?

[Peto]

:shifty:

[swdw]

From the FOTR sun thread, the AOTD crew has done this.

Here's a modern battle ensign

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Mcfall.jpg

[billko]

well this has been talked about very much in many threads so i'll just sum up the results for you,

they are in fact very accurate size and shape to exactly copy real life flags as verified in many many war photos. many people didnt know they were that big and most movies dont show the actual flag size in a way that can have any scale to it so at first look it seems surprisingly big but that is the correct size.

now as to the question, i dont think there is a mod to make them smaller because of what i explained above it was generally agreed on not to be needed.

there are some that make the flags look dirty and change a few flags for accuracy but that is all i am aware of.

Battle Ensigns are LARGE!

I'm guessing you don't wanna fire on the friendlies!

Bill

[AOTD_MadMax]

From the FOTR sun thread, the AOTD crew has done this.

Here's a modern battle ensign


Yep , we have downsized the flag about 10% by using the flags.dat from SH3 with small changes. of some flag-designs.
They havent the same animation of the SH4-Flags but no one needs this ultimate animated flags from SH4 cause a flag should only help you to detect a ship´s nation.

Real animated Airbattles/Dogfights between planes are much more needed in SH4.
We did it with FOTRS :rotfl:

Greets

Maddy

[Webster]

Yep , we have downsized the flag about 10% by using the flags.dat from SH3 with small changes. of some flag-designs.
They havent the same animation of the SH4-Flags but no one needs this ultimate animated flags from SH4 cause a flag should only help you to detect a ship´s nation.

Real animated Airbattles/Dogfights between planes are much more needed in SH4.
We did it with FOTRS :rotfl:

Greets

Maddy

so is it something you remade using the sh3 files as a guide or did you just swap files out and they have the sh3 animation which is why they move different?

[snakeyez]

Here's a photo of the USS Thresher (SS-200) that my grandfather took at decommissioning time (late 1945). Thought this photo might help with judging the actual size of flags flown in WWII.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc198/lancedean/papaw/ss200_ussthresher.jpg

[AOTD_MadMax]

so is it something you remade using the sh3 files as a guide or did you just swap files out and they have the sh3 animation which is why they move different?

They move different cause they got the animation of SH3 flags.

Greets

Maddy

[Webster]

so is it something you remade using the sh3 files as a guide or did you just swap files out and they have the sh3 animation which is why they move different?

They move different cause they got the animation of SH3 flags.

Greets

Maddy

so all you did was directly replace the files with a copy of the sh3 files then?

and if you wouldnt mind sharing the info, which files were needing to be swapped?

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hi Webster,

yes i directly replaced the flags.dat from SH4 with the one from SH3.
After this i had a testrun to have a look at it.
All works fine but some flags where showin in wrong colours.
I have reworked the tga´s and then its finished.

10% smaler Flags is the result.

Greets

Maddy

[ref]

We've just found with DD that the engine automatically reduces the flag size just by renaming the cfg#FLG_ nodes to cfg#FLS_ (what was the switch to use the small flags in sh3), no need to redo the animations with this method, although they maybe a little small for the big ships.

Ref