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Demonizer
08-20-08, 01:41 PM
I decided that i didnt like the ship textures that much, imo there was too much noise and when i checked this with the real life they seemed to be painted pretty well. So i started to make some new skins for the ships my first being the Battleship Iowa and Yamato. Although they are still WIP and i still need to add in a few details id thought id showoff what ive done so far. Im going to add in the hull numbers and stuff like that.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4585/bb61hp8.jpg

Dunno what that weird mark is near the hull number cant seem to locate it in the texture files.. :/


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/261/bb61azp1.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9616/bb61bmk4.jpg

Anyway what u think any suggestions? I think i need to tone down the shinyness and add a tiny bit of noise.

jujuroro
08-20-08, 05:55 PM
yes ! exellent work , the "blue" battleships are not realistics, and not beatifull ! ( fuso, iowa, ise ) good :up: !

Syxx_Killer
08-20-08, 06:01 PM
Your Iowa skin looks great! However, I think that maybe it should not have the number on the hull since there were other ships in the Iowa class. It may look weird to see two or three Iowas all with the number 61 on them. :88) I'm not criticizing or anything, just making an observation. :up: I wanna see your Yamato skin, too! :yep:

LukeFF
08-20-08, 07:02 PM
yes ! exellent work , the "blue" battleships are not realistics, and not beatifull ! ( fuso, iowa, ise ) good :up: !

The Iowas were certainly painted in blue camo during the war. In fact, they weren't painted in overall gray until after the war ended.

Webster
08-20-08, 08:23 PM
Dunno what that weird mark is near the hull number cant seem to locate it in the texture files.. :/



thats a ghost reflection of the bow wave, if your using one, maybe the environmental mod is causing it.

before you go to far you might want to check this out it could save you some work:
[REL] 22 new ships skins (lots of pics) http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129062

gAiNiAc
08-20-08, 11:12 PM
Looks nice but the colors are all wrong...........Check out the wartime camo schemes and such on line........

Mush Martin
08-20-08, 11:48 PM
Your Iowa skin looks great! However, I think that maybe it should not have the number on the hull since there were other ships in the Iowa class. It may look weird to see two or three Iowas all with the number 61 on them. :88) I'm not criticizing or anything, just making an observation. :up: I wanna see your Yamato skin, too! :yep:

Isnt there a way in the dat to have multiple skins
I thought That River FF had that in the last
two or three releases of GWX, same type of dat files
surely its possible.

Ishigami
08-21-08, 03:31 AM
IDunno what that weird mark is near the hull number cant seem to locate it in the texture files

It looks like a reflection of the bow wave to me. Maybe it is caused by the ambient occlusion map.

I think you should abandon the hull number. I’m not sure but I believe they didn’t have these numbers during World War Two.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g230000/g235080a.jpg

And if then the number was rather small.

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p60475-Oahu-USS_Missouri.jpg

As far as I know all Iowa class battleships had a camouflage pattern during the war. So you may want to use one.
See here: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-co-mk/camouflg/usn-wwii/3--bb3.htm (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-co-mk/camouflg/usn-wwii/3--bb3.htm)
or here: http://www.shipcamouflage.com/usn_bb.htm (http://www.shipcamouflage.com/usn_bb.htm)

If you want to keep the camouflage to a minimum you may want to consider Measure 22.

http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/31613missouri/paint.gif


Then you have both: A rather clean ship and still a historical accurate appearance.

Then I want suggest to use a high resolution for the textures like 2048x2048. Then you can implement amazing amounts of details. Have a look at OakGroove high res textures for the Deutschland class CA.
I don’t know much about American battleships but the portholes look a bit blank being just a black hole. You may want to add hatches and channels, at least on the structure.

Well just what I think.

Demonizer
08-21-08, 11:49 AM
Ok thanks for the suggestions everyone, il remove the hull number and add in a camo scheme. :up:

Edit*

Ok added the stock O01.dds file which contains the camo and stuff, might improve it but it seems ok i think. It also fixes some of the shadowing like the bridge etc.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5872/iowacamoej7.jpg

ivank
08-22-08, 12:38 AM
could you skin the KMS Scharnhost and Bismarck?

Demonizer
08-22-08, 12:51 AM
Sure, atm im trying to work out how to do my own Ambient Occlusion so i can sort out the lighting and shadows stuff. I just finished up doing the DD Fletcher but as i had to edit the ambient occlusion stuff to remove the colour scheme i lose all the shadows which are really needed.

Btw heres the Fletcher, as you can see i really need to sort the lightmaps/ambient occlusion textures.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4199/fletcher01gq9.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5450/fletcher02fc3.jpg


Still a WIP as i gotta add in doors and other bits of detail, i might change the wood deck to metal deck. Did Fletchers have wooden decks? I proberly remove the hull number is well.

Edit*

Well i downloaded the 3ds max demo and tried making my own O01 file for the fletcher and followed this tut

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136354

i got my O01 texture ok, but when i saved it to the O01 for the fletcher it looked all bonkers and messed up which what i expected as it didnt seem to fit the same as the stock one. So yeah def need some help on this matter.

ivank
08-22-08, 08:26 AM
looks grerat. Not to ask alot but, could you after the Bismarck and Scharnhorst, work on my SS Horai. I wanted a black hull with black or gold stacks.

virtualpender
08-22-08, 06:18 PM
The Fletchers did have metal decks, not wood. Also, once camouflaged the battleship's wooden decks were painted over.

Here's a link to a photo of a Cleveland class light cruiser and you can see how the camo continues over the horizontal surfaces:
http://mysite.verizon.net/resttsdu/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1944_10_21_ASTORIA_CL-90_MINY_1_LC_1280x.jpg

What you've done so far looks great. Can't wait for the release.

Demonizer
08-22-08, 08:23 PM
Yeh thats what i thought (about the destoryers deck being metal ingame) as the stock textures also had them wooden so i just replaced the wooden texture decks with wooden ones. So anyway ive added the metal decks in etc.

As for a release date well once ive done enough ships ie most of the warships and merchants both sides etc il release then as one big pack. Makes easier than releasing one at a time. As for the Lightmaps well it seems that these wont be used as im replacing these to remove the camo schemes and add me own in. Eta on release about 1-2 weeks.

Demonz :arrgh!:

Ishigami
09-01-08, 12:37 PM
How is it going?

tater
12-11-08, 02:10 PM
I'm trying to grok occlusion maps, myself.

BUMP!

keltos01
12-12-08, 01:41 AM
how to make occlusion maps :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136354

I used it on my subs, worked great ! :up:

Keltos

tater
12-27-08, 10:31 AM
Bump for ship skinning. I think most skippers in the SH4 IJN would have had their heads removed for all the rust and lack of fresh paint on their commands.

wh1skea
12-29-08, 06:21 PM
I'm starting to work on splinter camo for the Marus in SH4. Gonna probably take me a little bit though.

tater
12-29-08, 09:00 PM
Useful link for maru paint jobs:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww6.enjoy.ne.jp%2F%7Eiwas hige%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

tater