Where is the Home Fleet ?

[Chisum]

Where should we go and when to find big battleships ?

I'm in the Scapa Flow sector on september 22, 1939 and I'm waitting for some battleships.
Normaly they must go soon in the North Sea to fight against the Gneisenau.
But nothing on the horizon...

Same question for the rest of the war. Any website with movements of the Home Fleet ?

[HanSolo78]

Where should we go and when to find big battleships ?

I'm in the Scapa Flow sector on september 22, 1939 and I'm waitting for some battleships.
Normaly they must go soon in the North Sea to fight against the Gneisenau.
But nothing on the horizon...

Same question for the rest of the war. Any website with movements of the Home Fleet ?

This movements aggainst Gneisenau appear in october '39. But I don´t know if it is scripted in Gwx.
I only have a german site with all navy movements.. if you want it, let me know!

[PsFr]

I use GW 2.1 too , (only had a couple of crashes when saving or loading some saves with GWX 2.1 which i would really like to solve , my version is freshly installed with no mods , but otherwise it's really great expansion ) , i had the same interrogations about warships , i was wondering where i could find some other than at Scapa Flow , until i encountered a Bogue Class aircraft carrier yesterday in the Atlantic , toward December 1942 , escorted by 4 destroyers , i could sink him because i was extremely lucky , making a sort of kamikaze attack in rough sea despite a destroyer pinging me , and sunk the a/c carrier with only one electrical magnetic torpedo exploding just next to his "propeller" and fired at less than 400 meters from him , was really a lucky shot made hastily , it took lots of time for him to sink ,his escort DD were crazy about me and almost got me with DC before he finally sunk and i got the confirmation message .

I have to say nothing is more satisfying than sinking a war ship , i'm kinda feeling bad when i sink civilian ships thinking about the poor dozens guys who drown , whereas a warship , it's kinda different since the military personel on board knows the risks and wouldn't hesitate to kill me . I'd also like to know appox where i can find some , so if anyone can give us some hints , it would be really kind ;)

One thing i'd like to know too , as i re-installed SH3+GW2.1 just a few days ago after more than a year not playing , is if there is "life" in the pacific Ocean with Japanese and American warships etc.. just to know if it's worth going to the Pacific ocean in southern Asia as it takes time to sail there even in 2048 speed , cheers ;)

[Kielhauler1961]

For "Big Game" in that period of the war, try the area west of Shetland/Orkney/Hebridies. The RN was too smart to send capital ships into the North Sea and within reach of land based airpower unless it really had no alternative (like in the Med.). This ain't no WW1.

If you are patient and lucky, you should eventually find a task force of 1xDD and 2xAMC patrolling between Faroes and Hebridies. They're not capital ships but it's a lot of easy tonnage. You just have to find 'em...:arrgh!:

[Chisum]

I only have a german site with all navy movements.. if you want it, let me know!
If it's not this website (http://www.scharnhorst-class.dk/gneisenau/gneisenau_menu.html) I'm interresting, thanks in advance.
;)

But if GWX has no scripted the Home Fleet movements, how can we find her ?

[PsFr]

For "Big Game" in that period of the war, try the area west of Shetland/Orkney/Hebridies. The RN was too smart to send capital ships into the North Sea and within reach of land based airpower unless it really had no alternative (like in the Med.). This ain't no WW1.

If you are patient and lucky, you should eventually find a task force of 1xDD and 2xAMC patrolling between Faroes and Hebridies. They're not capital ships but it's a lot of easy tonnage. You just have to find 'em...:arrgh!:

Thanks mate , i will look for it rightaway , cheers :)

[Sailor Steve]

That is a question every real kaleun in the war would have loved to have had the answer to.

Look in the SH3 Mission Editor. SCR Layer. That will tell you where every scripted ship is in the entire game. But you'll need patience - there are a lot of them.

[Chisum]

For "Big Game" in that period of the war, try the area west of Shetland/Orkney/Hebridies. The RN was too smart to send capital ships into the North Sea and within reach of land based airpower unless it really had no alternative (like in the Med.). This ain't no WW1.

If you are patient and lucky, you should eventually find a task force of 1xDD and 2xAMC patrolling between Faroes and Hebridies. They're not capital ships but it's a lot of easy tonnage. You just have to find 'em...:arrgh!:
Let me show you my patience lol.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8052/sh3img1082008211359984fz4.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh3img1082008211359984fz4.jpg)

Am I in the right sector to intercept some battleship when they will go out find the Gneisenau or must I go elsewhere ??


That is a question every real kaleun in the war would have loved to have had the answer to.

Look in the SH3 Mission Editor. SCR Layer. That will tell you where every scripted ship is in the entire game. But you'll need patience - there are a lot of them.
Ok thanks Steve, I try to watch.

[HanSolo78]

I only have a german site with all navy movements.. if you want it, let me know!
If it's not this website (http://www.scharnhorst-class.dk/gneisenau/gneisenau_menu.html) I'm interresting, thanks in advance.
;)

But if GWX has no scripted the Home Fleet movements, how can we find her ?


This is the best page we found when we scipted most historical traffic.
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/39-08.htm#SEP
I am the one who was resposible for all scripting and as far as I know I scripted all big war ship traffic in our mod, also in september '39.

[KeptinCranky]

From your picture, you're on the wrong side of the Orkneys, if you do that same thing at the same distance to the west you have a much higher chance of finding warships, and AM36 is close by, that is also a hotspot...

all you're going to find where you are now is merchants and angry DDs :know:

[Chisum]

Ok, thank you all to the precious informations.

I don't know if it will help someone someday but I finally find a battleship. Not a big, only a Fidji but it still account.
Position, day, road:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9232/fidjisg3.jpg
Scale: 0-13 km

Und danke fur der link Hansolo78, fantastic job.
;)

[Reise]

This site (http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-3900Intro.htm) is as good if not better

GWX has the Hood etc off to find ships BUT return to Loch Ewe as was so ( why U47 found no more ships in Scapa )
WAC has movement also but opposite side of Orkney to GWX and in WAC they return Scapa

Remember
If you too close to spawn point ships wont spawn
You can wait there forever and not appear

[Chisum]

This site (http://www.naval-history.net/xDKWW2-3900Intro.htm) is as good if not better

GWX has the Hood etc off to find ships BUT return to Loch Ewe as was so ( why U47 found no more ships in Scapa )
WAC has movement also but opposite side of Orkney to GWX and in WAC they return Scapa

Very important, thank you.

Remember
If you too close to spawn point ships wont spawn
You can wait there forever and not appear

Damned, never though about it...

Thanks again.

;)

[Reise]

Dont forget pics if do sink them :up:

[Chisum]

Ok.
I just sunk the Fidji for now and must go to the base 'cause no more torpedos.
But I'll back.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1750/c6m010013op1.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c6m010013op1.jpg)

;)

[Chisum]

Well...
In this patrol I went to see at Lock Ewe October 20, 1939.
I arrived on the back and I watched with the camera.


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1995/lockewept1.jpg

There is nothing, absolutly nothing...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2043/lockewe2xp3.jpg

I don't know if I will meet the Home Fleet one day...

:-?

[Reise]

Oct 15 to 22 Hood is out with Furious/Nelson/Rodney along 2 cruiser and 9 destroyer
Home fleet always out not like KM sat in port


08–11 October: On patrol in the Norwegian Sea with H.M.S.'s Repulse, Aurora, Sheffield and four destroyers (Force E). Attempting to intercept Gneisenau, Köln and nine destroyers reported steering north off Obrestad Light, Norway.
10 October: En route to Loch Ewe with H.M.S. Nelson and six destroyers.
11–15 October: At Loch Ewe.
15–22 October: On patrol between Scotland and Iceland.
16–17 October: Covers armed merchant cruisers of Northern Patrol with H.M.S.'s Nelson, Rodney, Furious, Aurora, Belfast and nine destroyers
22–23 October: At Loch Ewe


http://www.hmshood.com/history/timeline4.htm

Wait 100km north Loch Ewe before 22 Oct
They will be going back to port

[Chisum]

GIANT !!
You are my BdU !!
:up:
Thank you mate.

;)

[Chisum]

October 24, 1939.

I'm waitting at 80 km of Lock Ewe.
Normally HMS Hood must coming soon to go in the Norvegian sea.
Very impatient !

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2827/24oct1939ed7.jpg

[Reise]

Note time will leave - 0700 am 23rd Oct
and date
and course

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q434/Reise_Reise2008/ScreenHunter_849.jpg

The group start as pic
Already out port so you must at least 50km from spawn point
ok

Now sink and take pics

[Chisum]

I've missed the meeting at Lock Ewe...
:oops:

Desperate, I am back to the North and arrived in AN11, october 29 in the night, I was lucky: right ahead and coming right on me, HMS Hood, HMS Rodney, HMS Nelson and a lot of secondary battleships !!!
:o
They was at 17 km but not so fast: 15 kts.
At 15km they are changing their road and I do the same, full ahead(8 kts lol) at -13 meters.
Afraid missing again....

At a distance of 7 500 meters, I fired a salvo of 4 torpedoes, three T1 and one T2.
Then I dived very low(160m) making a half-turn at 1 knot.
And now, just wait...

I could not believe that I would perhaps have her.
My heart beat fast and I was very impatient, three days I was waiting for !

And finally impact Herr Kaleun !
Wonderfull, 3 fatal impacts on 4 torpedos from 7 500 meters !!!
:o

What joy !!! I was crazy at home and repeat often: "I sank the Hood !" really like a child.
:lol:
You know, it was probably the greatest moment of my subsimer live !

OK, pics now.
Sadelly it was by night and you must probably increase very much the brightness to watch something.

Before attack
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5611/hmshoodav01se8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7134/hmshoodav02hh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8665/hmshoodav03bl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7517/hmshoodav04px4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Chisum]

Preparing Attack
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9959/hood7770mzp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Fired at 7500 m, now just wait and hope...
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1586/justwaitqg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Tic-tac tic-tac tic-tac...

The first impact
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2253/hoodfirstimpact20h48gp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/194/hoodfirstimpact0220h48eq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

The second impact
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9203/hoodsecondimpactel0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Now, fantastic pics in the destroyers's light
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4518/hood01hp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4176/hood02fl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://imageshack.us%5D%5Bimg=http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3001/hood03ig2.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6541/hood04fe7.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3001/hood03ig2.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7928/positionfc2.jpg

That's all.
I'll make a video but...I was so busy that I started the camera too late !
:lol:

[Chisum]

There is the video.
Sorry, it's not a beautifull work and you must pump on the light to watch.


Sink the Hood ! (http://www.dailymotion.com/Dayrton/video/10811403)

[sharkbit]

Congrats on the sinking of the Hood. :up:
My only battleship has been the Nelson at Narvik and I paid for it with my boat and crew.

Cool screen shots. I'll have to take alook at the video later when I have a little time.
:)

[sharkbit]

Did you manage to slip away from the escorts without any problem?

[Chisum]

Did you manage to slip away from the escorts without any problem?
Yes, absolutly no problem.
No one depth charge, nothing, only the light rocket lol.
As you can see on the video I was far when the Hood sunk.
You know, make fire at 7500 m let you many time to escape.
And also an other thing very important: DD's can NOT still long time too far of the other battleships !
HMS Rodney and HMS Nelson continued their way and was very far quickly.
The DD's followed them and let me alone.

Congrats on the sinking of the Hood. :up:
Thank you.
Be sure: it was GREAT !
;)

[Buczek]

Hi, don't You find it a little of cheating? I don't suspect that originally Uboat captains were aware of "home fleet" movements. Well, it's nice to sink Nelson or Rodney, but....

Of course, it may happen that You will meet some battleship during your patrols, but it will be more like an accident than a planned meeting. Unless we assume that german Inteliigence official is hiding under Churchil desk ;)

[Chisum]

What must I do if I meet the Hood or some other battleships ??
Escape ?
That was not cheat, I meet her by pure luck, I try a difficult attack, fire from very long range(never thought that it was possible 'cause sometime I miss a ship at 2000m !) and finally I have succes.
Where is the cheat ?
I can tell you: I don't play in 100% realism, "only" 74% and I use F12.
That's "cheat" ok.
If the rest is cheat too, I don't play never more.

[Buczek]

OK, i got Your point, but You misunderstood me - please see this whole thread - it was opened to help find Home Fleet warships during SH3 gameplay. In my opinion, refering to historical data to "ambush" battleships is cheat, because actually You have no right to know where those ships might be (well, in general, maybe yes, but it's not precise data). Unless You find by them by pure luck - as You described - and that's obvioulsy ok.

[Chisum]

OK, i got Your point, but You misunderstood me - please see this whole thread - it was opened to help find Home Fleet warships during SH3 gameplay. In my opinion, refering to historical data to "ambush" battleships is cheat, because actually You have no right to know where those ships might be (well, in general, maybe yes, but it's not precise data). Unless You find by them by pure luck - as You described - and that's obvioulsy ok.
Ok copy 5/5.

And you right: if I know the story and the approximated location of the Home Fleet it will be cheat a little.
In this case, we are all cheating. Right ?
Everybody knows where was Royal Oak, Bismarck battle, etc...
But precisely, I have start this thread because I had never meet battleship before although I knew a little part of the History...

;)

[Red Heat]

There is the video.
Sorry, it's not a beautifull work and you must pump on the light to watch.


Sink the Hood ! (http://www.dailymotion.com/Dayrton/video/10811403)

Very good Hunt! :up:

[Chisum]

Obrigado.
;)

(very nice pic in your signature !)