[WIP]"Fall of the rising sun!" Mod pack!

[CaptainNemo]

Ahoy comrades!

Maybe some of you know, that our online community "Aces of the Deep (http://www.acesofthedeep.com)" is working on a mod pack which is called "Fall of the rising sun!".

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/Bilder/newsgfx.jpg


First of all we would like to mention that TMO (Trigger Maru Overhauled by Ducimus on www.subsim.com (http://www.subsim.com)) was the base and inspiration of this modpack. Special thanks to Ducimus and all other modders for their work ! In addition we would like to note, that “Fall of the rising sun” is just a modpack and not a mod for itself. That means, that “FOTRS” is a bundle of many already existing modifications. The copyright of each modification belongs to its developer. We just have modified and supplemented these modifications with our ideas.
In the past there have been missunderstandings because some thought that we wanted to make profit with the work of others. But the missunderstandings could be cleared upiron out.

So finally we are proud to present a new trailer of "Fall of the rising sun!". Our mod pack will be released soon!

You can download the new trailer here. (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/files/fotrs_trailer_16zu9.wmv)

Enjoy watching!

[JSF]

Nice work!

[keltos01]

:up::up::up::up: bravo !

[Lt commander lare]

your mod looks awesome will you be posting the link to download it and when should it be available


lt commander lare

[steinbeck]

'To quote' So finally we are proud to present a new trailer of "Fall of the rising sun!". Our mod pack will be released soon!

You can download the new trailer here. (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/files/fotrs_trailer_16zu9.wmv)

Enjoy watching!


This is orgasmic!!!!!!!!!!! Please can 'Christmas' come early this year.


steinbeck......:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice, look forward to it :up:


RDP

[CaptainNemo]

Last week we have released the german version of "Fall of the rising sun!". Soon we will release the english version of "FOTRS". More information about the release date will follow!

[Lt commander lare]

ok looking forward to it and thanks for the info will there be lifeguard duty missions in this mod as well


lt commander lare

[Zero Niner]

Could you briefly explain what changes you have made in your mod, especially when compared to TMO?
Thanks.

[W_clear]

"Fall of the rising sun!" MOD What is the specific content ? I want to know.:)

[CaptainNemo]

"FOTRS" is a huge mod pack which improves the graphics, the artificial intelligence and atmosphere of Silent Hunter 4 (More ships, new sounds, new submarine skins etc..). It is similiar like TMO or RFB. We set the focus on realism and atmosphere. For example historical correctly radar range.

[AVGWarhawk]

Very nice CaptNemo! One stop shopping for a great mod pack is always a plus:up:

[kriller2]

Isn't this mod released now? - I saw a download link on the acesofdeep webpage... 650 mb. that's a huge mod :hmm: haven't had the time to try it.

EDIT: here is the link: http://www.aotd-clan.de/wbb2/board.php?boardid=149

[Rockin Robbins]

Half of a good mod is a great name. I give "Fall of the Rising Sun" a 10! That's genius.:up:

[CaptainNemo]

As I allready have mentioned, we released the german version last week. We are now working on the english version of FOTRS. I think you don´t want to have menues and objectives in german. ;)

@RockinRobbins

Thx! :D

Here are two screenshots of "FOTRS":

Screen 1 (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/temp/screen1.jpg)

Screen 2 (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/temp/screen2.jpg)

[Nisgeis]

What a great looking radar screen in that preview :D . Looks like lots of people will enjoy this Mod.

[Turbografx]

Captain Nemo,

What environmentals and effects (explosions) are you using?

[Seminole]

Could you briefly explain what changes you have made in your mod, especially when compared to TMO?
Thanks.


Yes, I second that motion.... would indeed be a big help .:yep:

[cdrsubron7]

Just asking, will Kriller2's new Environmental 4 be compatible with FOTRS?

[W_clear]

"FOTRS" is a huge mod pack which improves the graphics, the artificial intelligence and atmosphere of Silent Hunter 4 (More ships, new sounds, new submarine skins etc..). It is similiar like TMO or RFB. We set the focus on realism and atmosphere. For example historical correctly radar range.

Thanks:-?

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hello Captains,

the english version is comming up soon.

To answer some questions about the contents of this modpack i wanne give you some informations.

First of all we use an reworked version of W_Clears Environment V 4.5.
The Campaign is based on TMO but reworked.
We got there more coastal- and harbourtraffic.
The british navi got some more warships like the "Ramillies" and the "Resolution".
With permission from iambecomelive we add some of his nice merchants.
We also add many new selfmade merchants to the game.
An special unit is the japanese "Auxcruiser" ! Be carefull when you see this ship :rotfl:

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/NAMJP01.jpg

We add an new neutral flag "Red Cross" to the game, just in the same way you all know it from GWX.
They got 2 ships you better didnt shoot.:p

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/NPLRC01.jpg

All flags are reduced in size cause we hate this big stuff from SH4.
Dials are reworked and bigger.
The Catalina searchplane was added to the game
Some new US-Planes, especially the "Hellcat" got rockets.
In this case you often got nothing to shoot when they have done their work..... :rotfl:

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Rak1.jpg
http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Rak2.jpg
http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Rak3.jpg

Subskins and some shipskins are new and selfmade.
Many other "Eyecandy-Stuff" entered the game.

I hope you all like it.

Sorry for my bad english, thats the reason fore an later released english version :88)

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

[Lt commander lare]

cool that sounds like alot of fun cant wait to try it and thanks for all of your hard work in creating this for us


lt commander lare

[Turbografx]

Hammer geil!

Thanks MadMax.

[Madox58]

AOTD,

You are well aware that you should PM us for permission.
Yet I must be pointed to this thread by others?

Let's not play the games of the past.
PM is your friend should you choose to use it!!

Until then?
No permission granted!

[clayton]

Jesus!

[AVGWarhawk]

AOTD Madmax,

Here at Subsim, modders like to have other modders follow a simple code found here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115983

Hard work and time was put into mods. Not only by GWX but others who mod SH3/SH4. A simple request is asked by all modders in using someone elses work. That request is asking permission. It is a something most if not all modders would like to occur before pictures are displayed of their work and then asking permission after the fact. Putting the cart before the horse as it were. Currently you are taking the fire and brimstone of the GWX modders work. Being that the GWX folks are working on SH4 and certainly will be using their files and know how from SH3, you will understand if they decline permission to use these vessels and the signature blimp of GWX. Being that GWX wishes to mod SH4 with their GWX files, it should be that GWX gets first crack at their own files for SH4.

[Digital_Trucker]

Another Unit we wanne implement is this:

<pic snipped to save bandwidth>

But first we need permission from the builder ( one of the GWX-Team) !


Maybe I'm blind, but where in this statement did he say they were going to use this without permission? If anything, I think he was being polite in saying that they needed to ask permission. Is it illegal to say what you'd like to do? And posting a screenshot of a mod is against the code? I guess you better throw me in the brig right now 'cause I've posted probably hundreds of screenshots of Dave and Kriller's work. Nowhere in the code is there any mention of restricting the posting of screenshots of something that you'd like to include in a mod.

I suppose next we'll pull a "Super Bowl" and outlaw the use of any initials without permission. Pardon my elevated bloodpressure.:arrgh!:

[clayton]

You know, with all this 'pride' going around modders should start selling the stuff...:roll:

[Madox58]

As usual,
miss the point.

[Digital_Trucker]

As usual,
The Clown Brigade
miss the point.

And exactly what is the point? I'll let the "edited" thing pass because you can't help yourself.

[clayton]

As usual,

miss the point.

What's up with the name calling, man?

Edited for content. Hawk

[Madox58]

If the shoe fits.
Your all happy if theft or improper permissions stuff happens.
But you don't like any post that says NO!
'Edited for alpha code to do something nasty'

And as usual you all will play this out in the forums.
You have not the intestinal fortitude to PM me.
As what the whole issue is about.
PMs.

[clayton]

If the shoe fits.
Your all happy if theft or improper permissions stuff happens.
But you don't like any post that says NO!
See above. The Management

Describe 'proper premissions' and explain why someone asking if they can use a mod posted on a forum is a bad thing. Please stop the GWX way with name calling.

[AVGWarhawk]

Everyone, hit the locker rooms.

[Madox58]

Look up Sir.

[AVGWarhawk]

Everyone, hit the locker rooms.

Thread closed until affected parties settle this issue. Back to my movie. Thanks!:up:


Thread opened.

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hello Captains,

in order to form a more perfect union i decide that we from AOTD will not use the "GWX-Airship" for ouer Modpack.
It was an idea and i wrote it clearly that we wanne implement that unit after asking for permission but now i throw that idea away..........
Sorry for that missunderstanding.


Here are some other new contents of "Fall of the rising sun"

Airbattles and dogfights between planes are added to the szene.
It was a little bit tricky to make it work but it works very nice. :rock:

You can get that feature only in FOTRS caus i will not release this function as an standalone mod. :p

Here you can see 4 zeros attacking 2 catalina´s :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Dogfight1.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Dogfight2.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Dogfight3.jpg

I still working on it so every plane can attack other planes.
It will us give a very authentic battleszene........:up:

Another new unit is added to the japs:

The Nakajima Ki-44 Airplane with two 40mm Guns.

Here you can read more about this plane :

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/japan/nakajima_ki-44.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/nakajima_ki-44.php&h=1176&w=752&sz=22&hl=de&start=3&um=1&usg=__pyi2_F0E2CG8iDLZDs9z70pnK_E=&tbnid=wA-8FHIV4RHuHM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNakajima%2BKi-44%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de:official%26sa%3DN

At the moment the plane is based on the zero but i will rework the modell soon as posible :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki441.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki442.jpg

If you see this plane you better dive cause they shoot you to hell .........:rock:

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Angriff1.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Angriff2.jpg

I hope you like it.

Greets

Maddy

[Syxx_Killer]

Looking good, MadMax! :D

[CaptainNemo]

*sigh* It is sad that still some think that we want to "steal" their work. MadMax wrote that he wanted to ask for permission first before he integrates the airship of GWX into our modpack.

MadMax wrote: But first we need permission from the builder ( one of the GWX-Team) !
Well I don´t want to continue an old discussion, I just wanted to mention my sorrow about these missunderstandings.

Never mind..

We hope that our modpack will fullfill your expectations.

[jdkbph]

WoW!

I shelved this game a few months ago, but that trailer is mouth watering good. Maybe it's time to jump back in....

JD

[Dogzero1]

I for one, am looking forward to this modpack. Thanks guys.:D

[Nisgeis]

Describe 'proper premissions' and explain why someone asking if they can use a mod posted on a forum is a bad thing. Please stop the GWX way with name calling.
Now let me preface this with the fact that I've just driven down to the garage and got 5 litres of unleaded petrol in a can, which I have just poured over my head.

Now, as you can see how dangerous (and easy) it would be to flame me, I hope you'll be cautious in your responses to what I'm about to post!

I believe there is some past history of things being used without permissions and as everyone who has a history knows, things that happen in the past tend to be a source of annoyance in the future as well, as sometimes people just can't let go.

Now, as a neutral observer, who has tried very hard to stay out of any internet based conflict, I have obsevred Privateer to be a very helpful member of the community when he has felt he has had sometrhing to add to a thread. There are numerous technical threads to which he has contributed, so he's definately willing to help. Given that there was a problem in the past with some work being used as a result of a misunderstanding over permissions, which was later granted, I can see his point about asking for permission in a PM. However, from an entirely unbiassed point of view, it's perfectly acceptable to post in a forum that you intend to use someone else's work, pending their permission, but given that it has happened before I can see why Privateer may feel that a PM first to ask permission would have been a better route to take. Not that the answer would have been a no, but if you ask for permission in public you do have to say no in public, rather than in a private PM, which may be seen as loading the dice somewhat.

From my own point of view, I release my mods as anyone can distribute, not because that's the way I want it, but because that's the reality of the situation. I can't stop someone using my stuff. The only provision is that the readme file included with my work is included in any distribution as is, unaltered. This is because there are other people I want to thank as having contributed to the mod. In the case of the radar mod included with FOTRS, there is a credits file that credits me with the bearing line radar mod, but as far as I can tell, the readme file that should have been included as per my distribution instrucdtions has not been included.

What does this mean? Well, for a start it means that LukeFF gets no recognition in this incarnation of my mod, which is a shame, as he was a big help to me when creating that mod, small and insignificant a mod as it was. I know it's not a major issue, but if credits gets eroded in each release, then what's to stop the next logical step? What if I released this mod and changed a few things and thanked AOTD_MadMax in a credits file and no one else? Who would know what credit belonged to the project?

I believe in credit where credit is due. Not only for the creators of the MODs, but for the people who provided information to help the modders.

Now, I really have tried to stay out of this whole mess, but I don't think anyone would have a problem if permission was sought and credit given in full, where credit was due.

Go on, light me up, I'm doussed and waiting.

[Digital_Trucker]

I quit smoking ages ago, so I don't even have a match or lighter, so no flaming here:D

In a sense, I can see the objection. What I have to wonder, though, is if such things are better handled through PM, why the post by Privateer to begin with? Why not report the post with the "offending picture" and handle the problem with a PM to MadMax? I'll be the first to admit that my reaction was a bit harsh, looking back on it, but I didn't feel like it warranted Privateer's response. I still don't, but that's between he and I.

Perhaps, instead of hijacking this thread, we should start a new thread discussing it and allowing opinions to be expressed in a civil manner?

[CaptainNemo]

Well, actually I didn´t want to continue the discussion. But I would like to qoute one passage of our readme which says:

In addition we would like to note, that “Fall of the rising sun” is just a mod pack and not a mod for itself. That means, that “FOTRS” is a bundle of many already existing modifications. The copyright of each modification belongs to its developer.
If anyone does not find himself in that way he thinks he should be mentioned in the credits/readme please tell us. (stephankrueger@hotmail.com)

I can say it again and again: We did and do not want to "steal" the work of others. :-(

[Taskeen]

I almost thought this was a Japanese career mod :\ (I know people likely don't intend "Jap" to be racist, but it's really not hard to spell/type Japanese).

This looks cool nonetheless. :smug:

[AOTD_MadMax]

Moin Männer oder soll ich lieber sagen Jungs ?

Da ich ein Deutscher bin werde ich jetzt mal meinen Kommentar in Deutsch verfassen.
In meiner Muttersprache treffe ich wesentlich besser die passenden Worte und der Sinn ist mit sicherheit wesentlich schärfer und präziser formuliert.

Warum wird gerade hier in diesem Thread so ein Wirbel um sogenannte "permissions" und "credits" gemacht ?

Werden solche Anstrengungen auch in Mods US-Amerikanischer Herkunft unternommen ?
Bisher jedenfalls konnte ich das hier nicht wahrnehmen.

Um mal ein Beispiel zu nennen komme ich jetzt mit TMO.
Von mir wurde da der Soundmod für die S-Klasse und die Narhwal-Klasse benutzt.
Ich wurde zwar in der readme erwähnt aber von meiner original readme aus der auch mehr hervor geht war da auch keine Spur.
So geht es bei TMO durch die Bank.
Warum also hier bei unserer Arbeit diese Dinge ansprechen hingegen es woanders völlig übersehen wird ??
Da fehlt mir jetzt eine Erklärung.

Ich empfehle euch allen mal auf dem Boden der Tatsachen zu bleiben und euch mal ein wenig mehr um den eigenen Mist zu kümmern.

Mit 100%iger Sicherheit ist unsere Creditliste nicht ganz korrekt bzw. könnte es durchaus bei der Vielzahl von Mods die es gibt und benutzt wurden passiert sein, das wir was übersehen haben und das wir jemanden vergessen haben.
Genauso übersieht man ja auch Fehler im Spiel die zu sogenannten "Bugs" werden.
Nobody is perfect heißt da das Zauberwort.

Sollte sich jemand übergangen fühlen so reicht eine einfache PM und es wird wie ein Patch eine erweiterte Creditlist nachgereicht.

Ziel unserer Arbeit ist SH4 spannender und besser zu machen und nicht uns mit fremden Federn zu schmücken.
Ich hoffe letzteres geht langsam mal in die Betonschädel einiger Kandidaten hier rein denn es ist langsam unsäglich diese geheule und gejammere wegen Peanuts hier zu lesen.
Mich nervt es total ab, so einfach ist das.

I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........


Ein total mit dem Kopf schüttelnder MadMax

[The General]

Wow, that trailer was amazing!

Now, in career mode I have only ever seen friendly aircraft over Pearl Harbour. Are you guys telling me that we'll not only see more American Flyboys over the P.T.O, but we'll even run into dogfights going on overhead!? This is hard to believe :hmm:

[AOTD_MadMax]

Wow, that trailer was amazing!

Now, in career mode I have only ever seen friendly aircraft over Pearl Harbour. Are you guys telling me that we'll not only see more American Flyboys over the P.T.O, but we'll even run into dogfights going on overhead!? This is hard to believe :hmm:

In the career mode there is nearly no chance to see big dogfights between planes different nations cause you must be in an szenario where bothe nations got their flybos at the same time and in the same place.

But in scripted singleplayermissions and multiplayermissions this stuff can happend.

Greets

Maddy

[clayton]

Describe 'proper premissions' and explain why someone asking if they can use a mod posted on a forum is a bad thing. Please stop the GWX way with name calling.
Now let me preface this with the fact that I've just driven down to the garage and got 5 litres of unleaded petrol in a can, which I have just poured over my head.

Now, as you can see how dangerous (and easy) it would be to flame me, I hope you'll be cautious in your responses to what I'm about to post!

I believe there is some past history of things being used without permissions and as everyone who has a history knows, things that happen in the past tend to be a source of annoyance in the future as well, as sometimes people just can't let go.

Now, as a neutral observer, who has tried very hard to stay out of any internet based conflict, I have obsevred Privateer to be a very helpful member of the community when he has felt he has had sometrhing to add to a thread. There are numerous technical threads to which he has contributed, so he's definately willing to help. Given that there was a problem in the past with some work being used as a result of a misunderstanding over permissions, which was later granted, I can see his point about asking for permission in a PM. However, from an entirely unbiassed point of view, it's perfectly acceptable to post in a forum that you intend to use someone else's work, pending their permission, but given that it has happened before I can see why Privateer may feel that a PM first to ask permission would have been a better route to take. Not that the answer would have been a no, but if you ask for permission in public you do have to say no in public, rather than in a private PM, which may be seen as loading the dice somewhat.

From my own point of view, I release my mods as anyone can distribute, not because that's the way I want it, but because that's the reality of the situation. I can't stop someone using my stuff. The only provision is that the readme file included with my work is included in any distribution as is, unaltered. This is because there are other people I want to thank as having contributed to the mod. In the case of the radar mod included with FOTRS, there is a credits file that credits me with the bearing line radar mod, but as far as I can tell, the readme file that should have been included as per my distribution instrucdtions has not been included.

What does this mean? Well, for a start it means that LukeFF gets no recognition in this incarnation of my mod, which is a shame, as he was a big help to me when creating that mod, small and insignificant a mod as it was. I know it's not a major issue, but if credits gets eroded in each release, then what's to stop the next logical step? What if I released this mod and changed a few things and thanked AOTD_MadMax in a credits file and no one else? Who would know what credit belonged to the project?

I believe in credit where credit is due. Not only for the creators of the MODs, but for the people who provided information to help the modders.

Now, I really have tried to stay out of this whole mess, but I don't think anyone would have a problem if permission was sought and credit given in full, where credit was due.

Go on, light me up, I'm doussed and waiting.


Keep waiting...

A good explination, and no name calling to boot! :)

[Nisgeis]

As I understand it, later on in the war, when it was too late, the Japanese started using patrrol craft that swept ahead of the convoy looking for subs in a (far too) narrow lane 1,000 yards each side of the convoy's track. Will you be adding patrol float planes with this mod? I don't know if TMO already does this.

That would be a way to make sure there were always planes to be shot at.

[The General]

Wow, that trailer was amazing!

Now, in career mode I have only ever seen friendly aircraft over Pearl Harbour. Are you guys telling me that we'll not only see more American Flyboys over the P.T.O, but we'll even run into dogfights going on overhead!? This is hard to believe :hmm:

In the career mode there is nearly no chance to see big dogfights between planes different nations cause you must be in an szenario where bothe nations got their flybos at the same time and in the same place.

But in scripted singleplayermissions and multiplayermissions this stuff can happend.

Greets

MaddyThanks for the response Maddy :up: Are there any changes to the Career Mode with TFOTRS? Are we gonna see lit 'Hospital Ships' and that fabulous looking Aux Cruiser in Career mode for example?

[Rockin Robbins]

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I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........



I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........


Ein total mit dem Kopf schüttelnder MadMax

Errrr..... looks like Hyperwords translator need a bit of work!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Well said Max. Hopefully the solution is in motion. Your post sounds just like a Flotilla 24 post. Let not your heart be troubled. Flotilla 24 is now an indispensable part of the SH4 modding community and so shall you be. Here's to making FOTRS the best it can be!:()1:

[Carotio]

I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........


I'll translate it, just a second...

[kriller2]

I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........


I'll translate it, just a second...
Hi Carotio, sounds good I tried with babelfish, but it was rubbish coming out.

BTW with that sig line it better be good :lol:

[The General]

Hey K2! What do you think of TFOTRS? As a Master Modder your point of view is very valuable.

[kriller2]

Hi General,
I am sorry I haven't tried the mod yet, but the trailer looks very good, so it's on the top of my list of mods to install as soon as we have the PE4 mod ready :up:

[The General]

Ha! You're teasing us Mr Ambassador :know: . Your Mod is the most eagerly awaited :yep: . You're Beta-testing at the moment right?

[Carotio]

Moin Männer oder soll ich lieber sagen Jungs ?

Hello men or should I rather say boys ?

Da ich ein Deutscher bin werde ich jetzt mal meinen Kommentar in Deutsch verfassen.
In meiner Muttersprache treffe ich wesentlich besser die passenden Worte und der Sinn ist mit sicherheit wesentlich schärfer und präziser formuliert.

As I am German will I now write my comment in German.
In my native language, I find much better the suitable words and the sence is rightfully much more trenchant and precise expressed.

Warum wird gerade hier in diesem Thread so ein Wirbel um sogenannte "permissions" und "credits" gemacht ?

Why is there precisely in this thread made such a whirl about socalled permissions and credits ?

Werden solche Anstrengungen auch in Mods US-Amerikanischer Herkunft unternommen ?
Bisher jedenfalls konnte ich das hier nicht wahrnehmen.

Are such efforts also undertaken regarding mods of US-American origin ?
Untill now anyhow, I have not yet noticed it here.

Um mal ein Beispiel zu nennen komme ich jetzt mit TMO.
Von mir wurde da der Soundmod für die S-Klasse und die Narhwal-Klasse benutzt.
Ich wurde zwar in der readme erwähnt aber von meiner original readme aus der auch mehr hervor geht war da auch keine Spur.
So geht es bei TMO durch die Bank.
Warum also hier bei unserer Arbeit diese Dinge ansprechen hingegen es woanders völlig übersehen wird ??
Da fehlt mir jetzt eine Erklärung.

To give an example, I mention TMO.
From me, the soundmod for the S-Class and the Narwhal Class was used.
Though I was mentioned in the readme, there was no trace of my original readme, in which there was more info.
So with TMO, it was accepted. (MadMax, I suppose this was what you meant.)
So why here with our work are those things spoken against, where as in other places they are totally overlooked ??
Somehow I miss an explanation.

Ich empfehle euch allen mal auf dem Boden der Tatsachen zu bleiben und euch mal ein wenig mehr um den eigenen Mist zu kümmern.

I suggest you all to stay on topic of things and worry a little bit more about your own affairs.

Mit 100%iger Sicherheit ist unsere Creditliste nicht ganz korrekt bzw. könnte es durchaus bei der Vielzahl von Mods die es gibt und benutzt wurden passiert sein, das wir was übersehen haben und das wir jemanden vergessen haben.
Genauso übersieht man ja auch Fehler im Spiel die zu sogenannten "Bugs" werden.
Nobody is perfect heißt da das Zauberwort.

With 100% certainty is our credit list not fully correct, or rather it could most likely have happened with all the mods within that we have overlooked something or that we forgot about someone.
Exactly the same as when you overlook an error in the game, which later becomes a socalled bug.
"Keiner ist perfekt" ist the magic word (Nobody is perfect :lol: ).

Sollte sich jemand übergangen fühlen so reicht eine einfache PM und es wird wie ein Patch eine erweiterte Creditlist nachgereicht.

If someone feels passed over in silence, then it's sufficient with a simple PM, and it will be corrected in a patch with an extended credit list.

Ziel unserer Arbeit ist SH4 spannender und besser zu machen und nicht uns mit fremden Federn zu schmücken.
Ich hoffe letzteres geht langsam mal in die Betonschädel einiger Kandidaten hier rein denn es ist langsam unsäglich diese geheule und gejammere wegen Peanuts hier zu lesen.
Mich nervt es total ab, so einfach ist das.

The goal for our work with SH4 is to make it better and more exciting, not to strut in borrowed plumes.
I hope the last message here will finally and slowly enter the concrete heads of some candidates here, then it is slowly inexpressible to read this whining and lamentation because of peanut problems.
It goes right to my nerves and makes me care less, it's as simple as that.

I hope that somebody can translate it if you are not able to read german ...........
Satisfying? ;)

Ein total mit dem Kopf schüttelnder MadMax
A MadMax with a full speed shaking head


:rock: :rock: :rock:

[kriller2]

Ha! You're teasing us Mr Ambassador :know: . Your Mod is the most eagerly awaited :yep: . You're Beta-testing at the moment right?
That was'nt my intention ;) No not yet, we are working on making the water more realistic with water where you can see the seabed from above water, but the new shader allso means I had to adjust the environment a little, which is in test at the moment.

[AOTD_MadMax]

@ Carotio

Thanx for your translation. You hit the nail on its head. :rotfl:

@ General

The campaignfiles are reworked.
You often will see the red cross ships in a convoy.
If have taken them as the leader cause if you wont sink them ( you better do ) the convoi stay clother.

In SH4 when you shoot the leader of an group, the group will often drive in a strange way :damn: .
Thats why il take the RC-ships as an leader cause they are neutral wich means nobody will shoot them. But not every konvoy got them.

The Auxcruiser did his work often fare away from Japan. Mostly you can find this unit near US-Bases as an spy-ship :know:

They are cruisin on the routes from Submarines on their way to the frontline.

Greets

Maddy

[AOTD_MadMax]

@Madmax, I think every modder here knows that you need permission to use GWX work. It should be obvious that this better be done by PM, it's nobody's business wether permission is granted or denied. And if it's denied it's pointless to post screenshots including said work, it only serves the purpose of pointing fingers at "the bad bad people who refuse to share", I think subsim had way enough of this recently.

If you don't like the terms of use dicted by a modder or a group (and that's not only GWX if you wonder, far from it) then don't use their mods. I don't like games using copy protection so I don't use them, it's that simple.

Mind you, I'm not saying I like all this. If it were just me the "modding etiquette" would be just this : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/fr/

But that would need another thread :D

This point is gone mate,

I wont use the airship.
Discussion is closed for me.

So und jetzt nochmal in Deutsch :

Liebes GWX-Team.

Ich habe jetzt mehrfach geschrieben das ich dieses Airship nicht benutzen werde.
Ferner habe ich das Bild des Airships sowie den dazugehörigen Text entfernt.
Nun muss ja mal langsam gut sein.

Und jetzt will ich hier nicht mehr einen einzigen Post lesen dessen Inhalt irgendwelche Arbeiten von GWX betrifft.
Es reicht denn das hier ist ein Thread über FOTRS und keine GWX-Werbekampagne.

Capiche ?

@ Carotio, please translate it !

Greets

Maddy

[Madox58]

Don't worry.
I can read it.

But the Estonians may be a bit upset!!
:rotfl:

[AOTD_MadMax]

Thanx for making this thread always topic .................. :rotfl:

Here an Gato on an her way back to home.

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/temp/screen1.jpg



Greets

Maddy

[The General]

As I couldn't wait for this Mod I tried the German version, only to find that it didn't work with my English copy of SH4 :cry: Guess I'll have to wait...

[CaptainNemo]

@General

Which version of Silent Hunter did you have when you installed the german version of FOTRS?

[The General]

@Captain Nemo

Hi! Thanks for the support.

I had installed Stock 1.0 + U-Boats 1.5 and then FOTRS. Upon loading it would say that some files were missing and then crash. I'll try another clean install, hang-on...

[CaptainNemo]

FOTRS is optimized for version 1.4

Try it again with this version. ;)

[cdrsubron7]

FOTRS is optimized for version 1.4



Will there be a version optimized for v1.5 eventually?

[Kamikaze Krazy]

"The Nakajima Ki-44 Airplane with two 40mm Guns. If you see this plane you better dive cause they shoot you to hell .........:rock:" -AOTD_MadMax
(Kamikaze Krazy looks at the pic, awed and impressed by the quality of the work, yet shudders in terror.:o)

Good God!!:stare: That plane is nasty!:eek: BTW, I'll follow your advice... and dive!:yep: You really have a lot of talent mein freund. I really look forward in seeing further advances in this mod. I will also let you know that you and the other modders making all of these mods are truly our savior! Your efforts are truly helping all of us enjoy this one of a kind game! For that, we praise your work and give you modders a very big titanic sized Thank You!!:up::D:know::rock: Right now, I think we could pop the cork a little bit... prematurely of course.:()1:


To AOTD_MadMax: You, like the other modders are absolutely and utterly awesome! Rock on and keep 'em coming!!:rock::/\\k:

[rhonen]

there are no plans for an 1.5 compatible Version of FOTRS

[phil21]

As far as i know optimizing FOTRS for 1.5 brings more problems than advantages. Of course you would have some new features but there are much more bugs, performance is decreased by almost 30% and the MP is much more troublesome (especially important for us).
Thats why we concentrate on 1.4

[CaptainNemo]

We got her! Finally we are proud to present our version of the Corsair:

Screen 1 (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Corsair1.jpg)

Screen 2 (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Corsair2.jpg)

Screen 3 (http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Corsair3.jpg)

The Corsair will be part of "FOTRS" and will not be released by its own.

Thx to Rhonen and MadMax!

[bigboywooly]

Need to log in to your forum to see pics

[CaptainNemo]

Problem fixed. ;)

[bigboywooly]

:up: danke

[Syxx_Killer]

That's a really nice looking Corsair! :cool:

[The General]

I have just played the German version of FOTRS and I am very, very impressed. If Sh4 had been like this in the first place, I would've been very happy.

Looking forward to downloading the English version soon.

Great job team :up:

[kiwi_2005]

Damn wish i could read German i would download this mod right away and play it. :)

Looking forward to the english version, when its ready. :yep:

[The General]

Damn wish i could read German i would download this mod right away and play it. :)

Looking forward to the english version, when its ready. :yep:Uh, I don't speak or read German either, but if you know the game well enough then it's still very playable. The voices are in English, so you'll know you've hit the right switch atleast ;).

This 'Compilation of Mods' as they call FOTRS, is about as close as I'm gonna get to how I wanted SH4 to be in the first place. I hope one of the Devs gives it a try so they can see what's expected for SH5.

I'd like to see those fab new planes (see above) in the Campaign occasonally. As far as I'm concerned there should only have ever been a Sub School, Career Mode and that's it! No Single Missions or anything else. If you wanna see what it's like to be involved in the Battle for Midway, then you better be in that area during the campaign.

[AOTD_MadMax]

Here is another new airplane !

The Nakajima Ki 44 ist totally reworked.

First Version i posted here :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki441.jpg

New reworked Version :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki44Shoki1.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki44Shoki5.jpg

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/Ki44Shoki4.jpg

Reworked british swordfish no with torpedo and transparent glass and SH4 Pilots:

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/RWSwordfish.jpg

Reworked P38J with SH4-Pilot and transparent glass :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/RWP38.jpg

F4U Corsair :

http://www.aotd-flottille.de/FOTRS/Bilder/RWCorsair.jpg

This planes will be content of the english version and of the upgrade for the german version.

Greets

Maddy

[The General]

Great work, thanks Maddy :up:

[kiwi_2005]

Damn wish i could read German i would download this mod right away and play it. :)

Looking forward to the english version, when its ready. :yep:Uh, I don't speak or read German either, but if you know the game well enough then it's still very playable. The voices are in English, so you'll know you've hit the right switch atleast ;).


Ok i think i will DL the German version and try it.:up:

Hitman gave advice once about the menu.txt with the spanish SH4 Atlantic campaign mod i had installed. By copying the english menu.txt file to a safe place on your HDD before installing the mod then replacing it back after the install would enable the menus to be in english, this helped for me. This could work with this mod.:hmm: As i presume the menus will be in German? Either way i think i will still try this mod out now:yep:

EDIT: copied the menu.txt over and now have english menus, was wondering for us english speaking simmmers who have downloaded the German version when the English version comes out would all we have to do is copying the messages.txt file into our German DL version to fix. Instead of redownloading it?

[The General]

Attention AOTD Team! Have you seen this:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140148 ?

Surely this should be included in your FOTRS package?

[moscowexile]

Downloaded FOTRS yesterday: just couldn't wait for the "English" version.

Ausgezeichnet!

Excellent!

Great title as well!

Although I can speak German, I should think that the German menu will present few problems to those that are keen to try out this excellent compilation of mods: the crews speak English, voice overs are in English and the written orders are in English, though the text of what the crew says is in German. In any case, I do not see why a written text of the crew dialogues is necessary for English native speakers or for those many people who are fluent in my mother tongue: I always find such texts to be as irritating as subtitles.

I have only one tiny criticism from what I've seen so far: although one is given a choice between metric and imperial units as in SH4 1.4, the time/speed/distance conversion thingummyjig (forget what it's called) on the main chart is in minutes/knots/metres.

An outstanding piece of work and my congratulations to all modders concerned and those involved in the development of "Fall of the Rising Sun".

[swdw]

Mad_Max.

The weird shading on the tail of the corsair is because the vertex normals are not the same as the other polygons. (usually numbered in the wrong direction).

If your 3D modeling program has a utility that can fix this automatically (most do), running it will fix that issue.

BTW, posted some example shots of a nice Corsair skin you can have at the other modding forum. Drop in and see if you want a copy.

[Kamikaze Krazy]

To AOTD_MadMax:

Looking good! I mean Good God man, with all your talents, my eyes are going crazy! Your work is really mind blowing!:up::rock:I'm almost boiling with excitement! Erm... well, I guess that it explains it all... I have pneumonia!:lol::-?:88):dead:

I'm just wondering if both Nakajima Ki 44's are going to be in FOTRS. I guess what I'm trying to say is: Is both the 40mm and the 12.7mm versions going to be in the mod?

Keep cracking on those mods, your doing fantastic:D!!

[Dogzero1]

Any news on the English version yet guys?:D

[AOTD_MadMax]

To AOTD_MadMax:


I'm just wondering if both Nakajima Ki 44's are going to be in FOTRS. I guess what I'm trying to say is: Is both the 40mm and the 12.7mm versions going to be in the mod?

Keep cracking on those mods, your doing fantastic:D!!

There is only one Nakajima Ki44 Version in the mod ! She got 2 40mm Guns.
The Pictures here are only showin 2 different 3 D moddels of her.
The first modell was only an heavy armed Zero.

@Dogzero

We are on the way to finish the translation in this week so it should be released in a few days.

Greets

Maddy

[The General]

:D Great news, thanks :up:

[Dogzero1]

Thanks :up:

[Dogzero1]

Well, anything? :cry:

[Kruger]

My lame post... me=dumb.

[gj2020]

Anything new on this?

[CaptainNemo]

The FOTRS english version will be released tommorrow! (European time)

[keltos01]

fall of the rising sun ??? contradiction in terms :rotfl:

great work btw ! :up:

keltos

[Anvart]

:hmm:
I do not see light glare (reflect) on cabin glass ... ?

[donut]

English version,ends program.Seems to be missing files ? This is a request/observation,posted in [REL] tread w/no responce,so posted here for action. I Would be wanting to download link to complete Sea folder,without .dds dots. So that I may play FOTRS. BTW thinking most Subsimer's have moved on to 1.5,advise same.Although I have a 1.4 install to use,so help please,kind hearts,(OUT) !

[TopcatWA]

Lookin' forward to giving this a go. Great work on the mod.:up:

[Forensicman101]

I've downloaded FOTRS & it may be a good SuperMod, but I find the navigation screen & interface awkward. Specifically:
1) Aircraft radar contacts appear on the screen, but disappear when visually detected. What's all that about?
2) Large bouncing dials - irritating and mean I can't properly access the recognition manual.
3) Speed/time/distance scales on left side that mean I effectively lose 20% of the navigation screen.
4) No wake tails on contacts.
5) Some missing key shortcuts (e.g. "Y").
6) Non standard (SH3?) key shortcuts.

An optional patch to enable players to revert to a standard SH4 interface would be very welcome.