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Philipp_Thomsen
07-17-08, 10:25 AM
Hello there, fellow mates!

Some of you know me, some of you don't.

I'm here in this forum since november 2007, and the only threads I visit are inside SH3 MODS WORKSHOP. I never look or comment in any other part of this forum.

Now I've bought a new computer, capable of running SH4, so I'm interested in start playing and modding SH4, and I would like the help of you guys in some points:

1) Which thread is the similar correspondent to SH3 Mods Workshop, but for SH4?
2) Which are the mods for SH4 that you guys recommend, both for eye-candy and realism?

I don't know squat about SH4, but I do know almost everything there's to know about sh3, so I don't know if we have any equivalent super-mods like GWX for sh4, if any. So if you gentlemen would be so kind to make a list of recommended mods I should download to add to my SH4 instalation, I would be very happy. Any info is very much apreciated.

Just for the info, I don't know if it makes any difference in the mod choice, but I'm installing the SH4 game PLUS the UBOAT MISSIONS addon pack.

My configuration, if it is of any value, is this:

Core 2 duo E4600
2x 1gb ram 800mhz dual channel
8500gt 512mb
250gb sata2
19" wide.

Thanks in advance! :up:

FIREWALL
07-17-08, 10:55 AM
Hi PT :D

Just woke up and am haveing my first cup of coffee. 9:00 am here. I overslept.

The modding setup since the addon is quite extensive and you want tto be careful you use the right one for compatabilty with 1.5 addon.

There's some really good stuff out there now.

Let me wake up alittle more and I'll try to be of some help.:doh:

AVGWarhawk
07-17-08, 02:20 PM
All right...let see, would you like uboat or submarine? For the uboats, get OM/Operation Monsun by Lurker. This is found in the SH4 ATO Mod Forum. There are other mods as well. Nothing but praise for OM by the users of it. If the PTO looks to be a fun place to start, Trigger Maru (TM) or Real Fleet Boat (RFB). These are found in the SH4 PTO Mod Forum. TM is realistic but a not hardcore where as RFB is attempting to make it as hardcore real as the game will allow. RSRD is a traffic mod for the PTO. This is a must have. Now, here is the fun part and read each mod thread carefully, RFB and TM can be run with OM. RFB and TM can be run with RSRD. Seems confusing? Sure the heck does. So, first, were do you want to go? ATO or PTO? My mod set up looks like this in JSGME:

PE(pacific environment mod)
RFB (real fleet boat)
RSRD (run silent run deep, traffic mod)

Thats it. On hell of a great simulation. But like anything else, room for improvement and as good fortune would have it, the modders are still improving them.

Gorshkov
07-17-08, 02:34 PM
- TMO mod - created mainly for Pacific Theater for US subs skippers. U-boats are not fully supported in TMO (stock SH4 campaign but you can always install RSRD, also as I discovered there are some lacks in U-boat menu interface and 3D internal views even if TMO_Enable_Uboat_v3 mod applied).

- RFB mod - universal and realistic mod but still in development stage, in my opinion. Some small bugs like lack of Walter propulsion in type XVIII still exist. Look at RFB thread here on Subsim.

Sailor Steve
07-17-08, 02:42 PM
I'm confused

Who are you, again?

Philipp_Thomsen
07-17-08, 03:14 PM
LOL @ Sailor Steve

Guys, sorry, I forgot to mention this to help you guys to help me.

I'm an atlantic theater fan, u-boats fan. I don't want no watch officer telling "yes sir" to me. I like german submarines and german crew and the german style.

No, I don't praise hitler.

So I want to know what mods should I be using for the atlantic scenary.

AVG, thanks for the help, but whatta hell is RPSG OTA FJRA TGHT... lol... let's try to speak english here. I know its shortname for mods, what I want to know is, what does it do the mods you told me about. Are they mods for what? Super-mods like GWX? Is there any super-mod for the atlantic campaign? I'm that kind of guy that install the game, apply all the possible mods for it and only then start playing. So I would like to have a list of MODS for the atlantic campaign, what they do, and where I can find them, so I can start downloading them right away.

I thought that it would have a super-mod for SH4 already, but it looks like we don't... shame... but the game is quite new, so that's understandable. I believe that Kpt. Lehmann and crew are starting working on a super-mod for ATO SH4 by now, if I'm not mistaken. I was planning on starting modding a new GUI for SH4, to look like the GUI in SH3, I think they ruined the GUI in sh4, I'm with Racerboy on this one. Somebody already done it? I guess it's not that hard. OLC is a pro when it comes to menu.ini files, but he don't wanna play sh4 for now, so thats not good. Maybe he can help.

As I told you guys (and you can see) Im brand new here, I don't know squat about SH4 and mods for it, so ANY help is appreciated.

Thanks a lot guys! :up:

Reise
07-17-08, 03:19 PM
Lurkers Op Monsoon gives chance to play around UK and US too
Not full campaign yet but on the way
There is a med campaign too

Try the ATO mods forum

AVGWarhawk
07-17-08, 03:28 PM
Hehe, I figured the OH U ATE ONE TOO would make your head spin. Go right here first:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134922

A mod that is getting super every day! Start there and look to add. Lurker has the 'how to' written well. You do have some catching up to do:hmm:

Gorshkov
07-17-08, 04:47 PM
@Philipp_Thomsen: If you want some advanced dynamic ATO campaign similar to those in SH3, you don't find something like this in SH4. The only SH4 mod centered around ATO is "Operation Monsoon" but now it lacks many features found in SH3 and its mods.

Philipp_Thomsen
07-17-08, 05:26 PM
Basically, what you guys are trying to tell me is that if I want a complete campaign, I would have to play as a american skipper?

So the U-Boat Add-On pack from Ubisoft does nothing but to add german u-boats as controllable by player and some extra missions in single player mode to use it? Can't we do the campaign as a german skipper?

That's sad... :cry:

AVGWarhawk
07-17-08, 05:32 PM
Phillip my good man. The uboat add on gave us just a basic foundation. It is a modders delight. Operation Monson has plenty to do in the ATO and Indian Ocean. I think the Med is there as well. Click on the thread link above and load up OM. You will be just fine. More work coming on it as well.

raymond6751
07-17-08, 05:47 PM
Basically, what you guys are trying to tell me is that if I want a complete campaign, I would have to play as a american skipper?

So the U-Boat Add-On pack from Ubisoft does nothing but to add german u-boats as controllable by player and some extra missions in single player mode to use it? Can't we do the campaign as a german skipper?

That's sad... :cry:
You are right. All they did was add uboats but released too soon. You wouldn't want to start(in my opinion) the uboat addon without OP Monsun because you would be disappointed. Perhaps you know how to do campaigns from your SH3 days?:arrgh!:

AVGWarhawk
07-18-08, 08:14 AM
Give this go Phillip:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=139560

Gorshkov
07-18-08, 09:50 AM
Basically, what you guys are trying to tell me is that if I want a complete campaign, I would have to play as a american skipper?

So the U-Boat Add-On pack from Ubisoft does nothing but to add german u-boats as controllable by player and some extra missions in single player mode to use it? Can't we do the campaign as a german skipper?

That's sad... :cry: You are right. All they did was add uboats but released too soon. You wouldn't want to start(in my opinion) the uboat addon without OP Monsun because you would be disappointed.

In fact there is U-boat campaign in SH4+UBM game but it is a mirror copy of US campaign in my view. Am I right?

Philipp_Thomsen
07-18-08, 03:39 PM
What about eye-candy mods? which ones you guys recommend?

What is ROW?

I've heard that dave done some amazing things with sh4... what are they and where can I find? I need RECOMMENDED mods... :up:

Digital_Trucker
07-18-08, 03:47 PM
PE3 is Kriller2's continuation of Dave's work. It's at http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133365 It is highly recommended (be me anyway:rotfl:)
K2 is in the process of coming out with PE4 ( http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138663 ).

Recommendations are a tricky subject:arrgh!:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Best to look around and grab what looks good and try it out. If you like it, fine. If not, try something else.