Renown costs question

[predavolk]

My ultimate goal is to take out a Type XXI towards the end of my career. Mid-1943, I have 36,000 renown. There are some potential upgrades to get, but I want to save money for a) the Type XXI and b) the right torpedoes for it. I'm currently using a IXB in Lorient. Will I have to use renown to switch to Norway? Will I have to spend renown to upgrade the XXI with things like radar detection, better hydrophones, etc. or do they come stock with that boat?

I'm also debating switching out of my IXB and into a VIIC-40/42 before going to a XXI. Either that, or I'm going to have to get REALLY cautious in some of my later attacks.

[Frank0001]

Well, I'm pretty sure switching to an other base doesn't cost any renown. Surely you'll need some before you are allowed to, but actually spending renown to it? I don't think so.

I'm not sure about the other renown questions though, sorry!

[UnderseaLcpl]

Well if you are playing GWX I can say for sure that there are no upgrades you really need to worry about. The XXI comes with state-of the art everything in its hefty price tag of around 20,000 renown.
As far as torpedoes are concerned you will pay 1000 per zaunkonig 2 and 800 for the zaunkonig 1 I believe. I couldn't tell you what the FAT and LuT series torps will cost as I never used them but I would guess 300-500.
On the bright side your boat's initial loadout includes Zaunkonigs/Falkes and /or Lut and FAT torpedoes which should alleviate the cost a bit.

[predavolk]

Thanks for the info Undersea. I think the Fat 1s are pretty cheap- 150 each or so. The type III electrics are free.

But that's quite remarkable if the XXI only costs me 20K renown. I've being going off the community manual value of 30K. So I'll just double check, because this is a really big deal for me, is it really only 20K? That would let me be a lot more cautious (read survive the rest of the war) AND give me a lot more options with my boat(s).

[Wreford-Brown]

XXI is definitely 20k renown and comes with most equipment fitted as standard.

Torpedoes are as follows:
T I (G7a) Renown=0
T I FaT I (G7a) Renown=100
T II (G7e) Renown=0
T III (G7e) Renown=0
T III FaT II (G7e) Renown=250
T IV (G7es) - Falke Renown=500
T V (G7es) – Zaunkönig I Renown=800
T I LuT I (G7a) Renown=350
T III LuT II (G7e) Renown=450
T XI (G7es) – Zaunkönig II Renown=1000
T VII - Steinbarsch Walter (G7ut) Renown=500

[rls669]

Contrary to the description in-game, the TIV Falke does have a magnetic pistol (historically accurate or not). I've found it to be effective enough that the TV isn't worth the extra 300 renown. The TIV's much longer range makes up for its slower speed. I just took out a 5 destroyer hunter-killer group with them . . . such a feeling of power after cowering in fear for the last god knows how many patrols. :arrgh!:

The schnorkel is worth the upgrade if you get it early enough. I was so heavily damaged in my last patrol that I returned to port in Dec. 43 and wasn't ready to go again until March 44; that's the first time the schnorkel was available to me. For 6000 renown it's not worth it considering the XXI will be available next patrol.