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Fearless
07-07-08, 12:37 AM
Howdy,

Wanted to download latest RFB or TM and RSRD only to find out that I have to purchase the U-Boat Missions add-on :hmm:

Does this mean that the Stock SH4 v1.4 is now redundant?

Mush Martin
07-07-08, 12:39 AM
the ubm 1.5 platform is the current platform supported by ubi.
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Dakar23
07-07-08, 12:46 AM
And what of us that don't care for 1.5?

Fearless
07-07-08, 01:11 AM
the ubm 1.5 platform is the current platform supported by ubi.
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I C. That means SH4 V1.4 is no longer supported and it is a requirement to purchase the add-on before any latest super mods can be used.

So, what are the benefits for having the ubm addon installed (apart from the obvious)? Has it improved the stock v1.4 in any way?

JoeCorrado
07-07-08, 01:52 AM
Howdy,

Wanted to download latest RFB or TM and RSRD only to find out that I have to purchase the U-Boat Missions add-on :hmm:

Does this mean that the Stock SH4 v1.4 is now redundant?
TMO and RSRD offer the 1.4 versions but there will be no more work on them. They are "finished works" and will no longer be supported. You get what you get and if you want to enjoy the supported versions then you need to keep up, not expect the rest of the community to hang back. There are still lots of great mods available for 1.4 ~

I would recommend going to 1.5 though. It's worth the few dollars it costs and I was not originally sold on paying for the add-on since I had no desire to play the German Side of SH4, I have SH3 for that. But after the purchase I must say the improvents and enhancements to the U.S. side are well worth the price of admission.

Not to mention the continued work by some of the best mods around who keep pushing the limits in improving the stock game.

Sailor Steve
07-07-08, 09:04 AM
And what of us that don't care for 1.5?
The problem is that people who work on things like to work on the newest versions. Since 1.5 does have some improvements over 1.4 the modders moved to that version. This is why, though there are still cool new mods coming out for SH3, they are becoming fewer and fewer. The same is happening to SH4 1.4.

Can't be helped.

Webster
07-07-08, 08:54 PM
Howdy,

Wanted to download latest RFB or TM and RSRD only to find out that I have to purchase the U-Boat Missions add-on :hmm:

Does this mean that the Stock SH4 v1.4 is now redundant?


the only thing you arent going to get is any newer versions or improvements in the mods as they are now. most mods are what they are and dont get regular upgrades so to speak so your not going to be missing out that much because your using the older version.

as steve said, the modders who were updating their work decided to go with the latest and newest version so if you want their latest work you will need to spend the $10 to get the ubm ad-on.

1.5 is much different file workings than 1.4 so to try to work on both versions is not easy to do so since in most cases you cant just make a few minor changes to the mod, you almost need to redo most of it. plus some changes that work on 1.5 may not even work on 1.4, but some of the small 1.5 mods will work fine with 1.4 even though they dont say weather or not they will so you just need to try them to find out.

Zero Niner
07-07-08, 10:17 PM
If you can afford it, I suggest you purchase the add-on. Like you I have Sh3 to satisfy my U-boating needs, and I bought the SH4 UBM addon simply for the improvements it makes to SH4 where I play exclusively (so far) on the US side.

LukeFF
07-08-08, 12:55 AM
And what of us that don't care for 1.5?

Then you're stuck with mods that only work with 1.5. You can't expect modders to support two versions of the game, especially when it comes to larger mods like RFB, TMO, and RSRDC.

Fearless
07-08-08, 03:34 AM
Thanks for the responses. It's worth it then to get UBM. :cool: Now to get the download version as I live in Aus and won't let me purchase the download from D2D due to some legality.

Are there any other sites where downloads can be purchased?

seafarer
07-08-08, 06:41 AM
Howdy,

Wanted to download latest RFB or TM and RSRD only to find out that I have to purchase the U-Boat Missions add-on :hmm:

Does this mean that the Stock SH4 v1.4 is now redundant?


Keep in mind too that the modders:

a) do this for fun, not profit
b) do this for free, not profit
c) are under no obligation to do any of the amazing efforts they put out
d) have real lives too, outside of meeting the clamor for updates and add-ons to their mods :p

clayp
07-08-08, 10:53 AM
Well I guess I will play ver 1.4 until it dosent work anymore or just isnt fun..I have absolutly no desire to play german or anything else so I will not get 1.5..Too bad this had to happen....:down:

FIREWALL
07-08-08, 11:22 AM
I'm running the last versions of TMO and RSRD mods for 1.4

There still available. It just takes some looking.

REL_TriggerMaru_Overhaul
All_In_One Orders Bar
GreenLamp
GREEN LOCK
Sobers 3D waves
Carotio_TrukCoralHarbourCityLocations
RSRDC_TMOv14_V370
DD_SHIV_Debris_V1.2.01

Good Luck :up: PS. Burn them to cd so you will always have them. They may be impossible to find in the future.

Webster
07-08-08, 11:30 AM
Well I guess I will play ver 1.4 until it dosent work anymore or just isnt fun..I have absolutly no desire to play german or anything else so I will not get 1.5..Too bad this had to happen....:down:

1.4 will never stop working but sadly you probably have seen an end to just about any "new" mods for 1.4, so what you have now is what you have to work with.

something to try is taking the small 1.5 mods and using the same steps they use to create a version for 1.4, the big mods im afraid your going to have to live with the older versions.

if you intend to stick to 1.4 then you are going to need to learn to do your own mods yourself.

jimimadrid
07-08-08, 12:21 PM
Well I guess I will play ver 1.4 until it dosent work anymore or just isnt fun..I have absolutly no desire to play german or anything else so I will not get 1.5..Too bad this had to happen....:down:


Clay, nobody will force you to play the german side. 1.5 is not only the german side, there also changes in the US side.

And because of these changes the 1.5 Mods will mostly not been usable in 1.4.
Unfortunally there was a lot of changes in the mostly used menu1024x768.ini.

This means that we modders have to test and modify our mods for both version.
Why? To save you ten bucks? Sorry, but this would mean that our work will not be this 10 bucks worth.

Sorry. I cannot understand your opinion. I develop also mods for EA's Football manager. And the user has to buy every year a new football manager for 50 €.
And year for year EA's football manager is top ranked on the german computergames Highseller lists.

I mean this 10 bucks will not hurt soo much.

Monica Lewinsky
07-08-08, 02:40 PM
Well I guess I will play ver 1.4 until it dosent work anymore or just isnt fun..I have absolutly no desire to play german or anything else so I will not get 1.5.

I, too, had the same attitude at one time - which now reflecting on it, I regret on not getting 1.5 SOONER!

You are making a BIG MISTAKE! Buy it ..... why ???

1. $10 bucks is DIRT cheap for the upgrade [patch?]

2. The Uboat missions are an OPTION to play from the main menu. If you don't want to play them or it is not your cup of tea - Then DON'T play them. You can still sail the warm waters of the Pacific in your U.S. Sub and put them on the bottom just like you currently do in 1.4.

3. Put the MODs off to side for one patrol or mission if, and when, you get it. Review all the changes to the "stock" version or call it Plain Jane version [no MODs]. Man-o-Live all the NICE changes to the game! There are MANY nice changes that keep you MORE INFORMED.

4. Then tack on the add the MOD[s] after 1 plain vanilla patrol. HOLY COW!!!! I have been having MONTHS of fun with 1.5 and NEVER have I boarded a Uboat nor do I have ANY interest in EVER playing a Uboat mission. I am using RFB 1.5 [Real Fleat Boat] as my main MOD and LOVE IT!!!

You should reconsider your stance and change your mind. You have to TRUST us 1.5 users - it IS worth making the change.

Hopefully others will agree with me and chime in and reinforce my/our comments.

I can see you points knowing you are just a Cheese Head in Wisconsin - just as bad as living in Iowa [assuming you call that living].

clayp
07-09-08, 11:39 AM
Maybe I will have to change,I'm thinking about it....

Defiance
07-09-08, 11:53 AM
clayp,

I got 1.5 solely as others have said, For fixes etc

Don't play german though, Just my fleetboats :)

Couldn't be happier at the moment

If i want U-Boats i drop back to SH3

Just get 1.5 and continue as american :) :up: Honestly i think it's way cheaper in usa compared to what i paid for it here across the pond (but wasn't really over-priced like some games/add-ons)

Webster
07-09-08, 12:53 PM
Maybe I will have to change,I'm thinking about it....

yes change is good and you will notice the game loads faster than 1.4 did and it gives you added game abilities that werent there in 1.4 :p


we all will HAVE to get used to change now that bret favre might end up playing for the bears since green bay management doesnt want him back.

Fearless
07-09-08, 07:38 PM
Oh yes, I'm convinced to purchase UBM but I cannot purchase the download version as some download sites won't allow certain countries to purchase via this method. I live in Australia and have tried D2D, the Ubi link even SUBSIMs link but because of legality reasons, no go. I'm trying to locate a boxed version as an alternative but have had not much luck obtaining it.

There is a German site that gives a download option but I'm not sure if that version is multi-language. Therefore if anyone knows a suitable download site that doesn't restrict purchases because of country restrictions, please advise as I would be ever so grateful.

les green01
07-09-08, 08:48 PM
i finaly broke down and bought it of ebay

Monica Lewinsky
07-09-08, 09:34 PM
i finaly broke down and bought it of ebay

Nice egh?

Looking forward to read your comments as a "new" 1.5 user.

Not to cause friction amongst SH4 users, but DAMN that 1.5 edition is NICE!

And ...... you DON'T have to get into a Uboat to ENJOY it.

How can WE help this guy?

This is NOT right!

Oh yes, I'm convinced to purchase UBM but I cannot purchase the download version as some download sites won't allow certain countries to purchase via this method. I live in Australia and have tried D2D, the Ubi link even SUBSIMs link but because of legality reasons, no go. I'm trying to locate a boxed version as an alternative but have had not much luck obtaining it.

STEED
07-10-08, 05:31 AM
I am not getting it for the add on for two good reasons............

The UK is in recession
I'm not paying £15 for a add on

STEED
07-10-08, 05:50 AM
Come on Steed : http://www.game.co.uk/PC/Strategy/~r333988/Silent-Hunter-4-Wolves-of-the-Pacifc-UBoat-Missions-GAME-Exclusive/?s=silent+hunter (http://www.game.co.uk/PC/Strategy/%7Er333988/Silent-Hunter-4-Wolves-of-the-Pacifc-UBoat-Missions-GAME-Exclusive/?s=silent+hunter)
A pimped type IX for less than 5£, you won't find much bargains like this one !
And don't tell me you're of the old farts not buying stuff on the internet :D

And they are always sold out.

The first day SH3 went on sale sold out and I pre-ordered, month later and still sold out so I canceled the order and bought it from Tesco's with a £5 reduction. ;)

I got SH4 for £2 second hand off a mate who was about to throw it in the bin back in the bad old days when it first came out.

AOTD_MadMax
07-10-08, 06:03 AM
We will release ouer " Fall of the rising sun" for V1.4 soon as posible and we will support it for the whole time cause V1.4 is much better then the buggy UBM-****.

FOTRS is an Mod only made for the US-Carreer so nobody needs the german side and nobody needs heroes cause they are no realistic.

I think we release FOTRS in a few weeks after we finished last testings.

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

Sailor Steve
07-10-08, 10:45 AM
Oh yes, I'm convinced to purchase UBM but I cannot purchase the download version as some download sites won't allow certain countries to purchase via this method. I live in Australia and have tried D2D, the Ubi link even SUBSIMs link but because of legality reasons, no go. I'm trying to locate a boxed version as an alternative but have had not much luck obtaining it.

There is a German site that gives a download option but I'm not sure if that version is multi-language. Therefore if anyone knows a suitable download site that doesn't restrict purchases because of country restrictions, please advise as I would be ever so grateful.
I was having the same problem as you. Direct2Drive wouldn't let me download it either, even though I live right smack dab in the USA. Steam wanted me to also get their version of SH4, but the more I thought about the more I didn't want to have all their extra stuff on my computer.
There is hope. We only have one month to wait now.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138601

I've already got mine on order, but of course if Amazon announces that they're going to carry it I'll order it through Subsim instead.

OneTinSoldier
07-10-08, 04:07 PM
And they are always sold out.

The first day SH3 went on sale sold out and I pre-ordered, month later and still sold out so I canceled the order and bought it from Tesco's with a £5 reduction. ;)

I got SH4 for £2 second hand off a mate who was about to throw it in the bin back in the bad old days when it first came out.


Hello Steed and all,

I decided to get UBM. I just ordered it from http://www.game.co.uk/

They don't appear to be sold out to me. The game shows as 'Available for Immediate Despatch'. (is that how you guys spell Dispatch in the UK?) Anyway, I hope that 'Available for Immediate Despatch' is not a bunch of b.s. or a smokescreen of some sort, and that it'll be on it's way to me shortly. Atm, I'm expecting to have it about a week from now. Otherwise I'll wait for the middle of August for it to become available, like Sailor Steve is.

Fearless
07-10-08, 07:58 PM
In luck. EBGames in Adelaide has a copy so I've reserved it :smug:

cgjimeneza
07-10-08, 08:45 PM
Well I guess I will play ver 1.4 until it dosent work anymore or just isnt fun..I have absolutly no desire to play german or anything else so I will not get 1.5..Too bad this had to happen....:down:

two words:

GET IT... I assure you, you`ll love it!!!

try TMO 152 w/RSRD
then switch to Lurkers Op Monsun... you know nothing of fear untill the brit planes find you in mid channel... and there is no bottom... or better yet, a couple of british escort vessels....

nowhere to run, nowhere to hide!!!!

:yep:

Fearless
07-11-08, 06:18 PM
In luck. EBGames in Adelaide has a copy so I've reserved it :smug:

I was wrong, went to the shop only to find out that they didn't have it even though when I had rung them they said they had it in store. :down: I've ordered it from http://www.game.co.uk/