Modders choice of mods

[asanovic7]

Hello!
I have couple of questions that are aimed at modders and such.
1. Last couple of days I was very frustrated because I was trying to start a campaign on GWX 2.1 with my fav set of mods for it, I listed them on one another thread. Anyways on that thread were included aotdmax shleuse with bugfix and community add on. What happened was that I got multiple ctd's trying to start it. I was so annoyed and on the verge of stopping to play it because I can't for some reason. I combined many mods, tried, reinstalled couple of times and then with luck because I was checking a ton of files, I found out that m35hansa and m35r, the ships in addon and shleuse are one and the same ship. They differ in some files, but some are completely THE SAME!? And what is worse, addon is supporting the aotd mad max aa ships mod. I didn't check out other ships yet. My question and a kind request for all of you modders, this is not some annoyed yelling, I am talking in a spirit of this nice community, is can you please check, test and note such "things" when you don't have enuf time to end the model(it is reasonable, rl and things) and you know that such a "thingy" will ruin someone's game. It is really hard when I got in a situation when single missions work, campaign not.. That means 30 minnutes a test. I am sick these days and home so I got the time to do this while reading "From now to eternity", but plenty people will not do it and I don't blame them. They will just get the bitter taste in their mouth trying to add something they find they like, and having to satisfy with something they didn't prefer right now. Thanks for listening..

2. One thing occured to me yesterday. I am so yet in a work to make all those mods compatible and to make a game nice to me and I am shure plenty of people here do the same. Now, this is only a suggestion, so don't be mad. if you don't agree, ok..
It is a situation that bothers me when you have 20+ mods, even when authors make compability patches you always have one or two files(usually a mod) you have to modify to get the "proper" result. "proper" for you or just to make it ctd free, since this is a game where much of the people think alike, "proper" would often be nice to plenty. Anyways, with my current list of mods, there are about 10+ or even 20+ of such files together with some customizations just for me.
What I am suggesting is that modders(I don't regard myself like that but I would be willing to do it first) write a list of jsgme enabled mods they use in order they should be enabled, that means a configuration on what they play(no matter on what supermod) and ofcourse upload a "compability patch" they custom made and that they use to make that configuration work in a way that satisfies them. Since some or the majority of modders hate when you take or modify their materials without asking, I was thinking only of the mods made by the members of subsim, who agree with this idea. They ofcourse should speak.
It would not disrupt the mod releases, nor releasing compability patches by the authors. It would releave us all of questions like "why does it not work with this, can I use it with this and such", because modders who understand the files or some files, would release their combo they play which is far better than to have some "don't understand it" guy meddling himself, which will only lead to ctd and him hating the game, which is IMO terrible. It would enhance also the game for many to play it the way for instance privateer plays or olc(ofcourse if they agree) plays the game. Or Kpt. Lehman. Or bigboywoolly. To name the few. Again ofcourse, if they agree. I am pretty certain some of their combos are unique and really fun.
If that combo doesn't work for the player, you don't use it without any questions, it doesn't work on your computer and thats that.
I came to that idea because I have to do it anyway for me so why don't I share it with others.
The idea is also to have only one thread where modders would release such files.
That's it, thanks for attention, if you don't like the idea, don't shoot me.. Just want to see what you make of it.
Cheers!
:D

[bigboywooly]

Hi
Well my mods are pictured below

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/ScreenHunter_674.jpg

Not many
The first in the list is the 2.1 bugfix plus AOTD Maxs ships plus Iambecomes AA ships plus the Holtenau and Brunsbuettal locks
Second is what is posted on here as the community units ship mod including later released units such as VonDos's liners
Third is the Lifeboats mod and lastly the torpedo damage mod to make the holes look better

[asanovic7]

:rotfl:
Cheers!

A nice start. And it shows that you don't need many mods to enjoy in gwx..

[bigboywooly]

Also depends on timeline
Later I will add in late war sensors
If thinking of going to the med the the France to Med mod
As I usally hunt in Atlantic I dont need the Merged

Skins are mods I really need to take a look at
Not really used any as playing time limited but I know there are plenty of great ones ouut there

[asanovic7]

Discovered I know j..t about ship building, many ships share the same dsd file, that was the confusing thing. For me, cause as I said I know.. :doh: But I noticed some other thingies..
I was kinda hoping this thread will encounter some "resistance and activity", so far just bbw answered.
Would be cool though, at least I thought that way..
Cheers!

[Wolfehunter]

Here are some of the other mods and I didn't have issues yet.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff110/WolfeXhunter/JSGMEshot1.jpg

No mod is perfect. But the mods I'm using work great at the moment.:hmm:

[asanovic7]

What is "WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER"?
:doh:

For combo wakefix exhaust, have you made changes to draught and range values in rubini's dat files and adjusted the height values to 0,45 to rb's files?
Just asking to be shure!

Anyways :up:

[Madox58]

Well,

I was away on shore leave all weekend.
:rotfl:

Your first post is in black?
:huh:
What were you thinking?
:rotfl:

I ain't switching things to read it cause when I switch things?
I get in trouble!!
:lol:

Slacker!!
:nope:
:rotfl:

[onelifecrisis]

I only just noticed this thread. :oops:

asanovic7, I'm not quite sure what you're asking my permission for, but whatever it is consider it given! :up:

My mod setup is simple:
GWX 2.1
OLC Ubermod 2.4.2

I've tried a lot of other GWX addons but the ones I liked invariably came with some small (or sometimes large) problems or bugs, and each time I end up back at my "tried and tested and trusted" GWX+OLCU setup.

Right now I'm on a break from playing SH3 but when I get back into it I'll definitely be adding an extra SH3 install so I can try out WAC3 :)

[Venatore]

What is "WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER"?

"WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER" is a audio mod that I created, link provided below for further details

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=800381&postcount=763

[Jimbuna]

Here are some of the mods I use in one of my installations (currently there are 3...all with differing mods)


http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9688/jsgmevp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[asanovic7]

Hangover guy, I only notticed that the letters are in black after a couple of days and then I said what the hell.. :rotfl:

Thanks to all for answering..

I will try to rename the thread into modders choice of mods.. That said, I hope some guys that are not using gwx 2.1, modders, will reveal what they play..

To OLC: Thanks for replying.Your list of mdos is somewhat short but I think it keep the game safe.. I was thinking about this. When you combine several mods not compatible, you have to make a customized files. I though every modder provides a list of mods and their customized files. OFCOURSE: only if the mods they use are made for that supermod or stock game.

This is an example. A question to jimbuna: :rotfl: I should say to the chief of the boat: :know:
What kind of changes you made to englishnames.cfg in the sea folder and if you did any.
That would be all in one place. I don't know if everybody understands me or not.

Drive safe!

p.s. Here is so hot I cannot understand me either..

Freedom and a cold beer..

[Madox58]

Ah, better Mate!
:up:

As I told you by PM,
I use very few mods stacked.
So I doubt I can help much.
The Hansa Issue?
I'm well aware of it.
The Community mod needs changed or the release BBW did needs changed to
overwrite correctly.

[asanovic7]

I found out why I was getting ctd's all the time, the reason was quite banal.. I underestimated the hunger of olce2, so I did changes to nori00 and nori01, used the earlier work by olc. It looks somewhat the same, although olc should say his word. That also means no wac for me.. Now it works. "No bugs" I have seen.. Although, it's funny.. I made a free camera on bridge(from sboot, and if I am not mistaken sergbuto did that, right?) and sometimes when I press with mouse free move, press shift and go forward, I get a msg: Solution to target.. :rotfl: Other than that, I didn't nottice anything other strange.. But I am shure I will be happy to meet more bugs.. Ok my list is:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=878750&postcount=24


http://bts-mods.com/forums/Smileys/BtS/schuett.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

Oh yes, I am not using remove reflections anymore..

As all can see I will undoubtedly meet a heavy defeat sometime, but to tell you the truth, spinning around the Brest under attack caused no dificulties. Tested everything, have to test it in a long campaign, well until first dd sinks me like a b..h.. The only incident I had when a sub other than mine, a "friendly idiot", was going on a course 180 to mine and then decided to go backwards across my route which ended in my bemusement and a hit to his bridge by my boat. Was hoping that son of a larky hound would sink, but he didn't
http://bts-mods.com/forums/Smileys/BtS/shootingsmilie.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

When mixing the community ships addon with bbw, used community ships englishnames.cfg, hope that is right..
AS far for the "hansa issue", there is an issue with lc_mall too, but if it doesn't break the game often or non at all, we can live that right.. I would like myself to fix it, but my knowledge about gwx files is ofcourse limited as hell..
My question, can I release my customized files, if there are interested parties that make that combo work..

I asked rdp to change the title of this thread to modders choice of mods, so that every "mod user" can pick one or the other combo(maybe or if he likes) like "experienced" people choose. But I think the main purpose of the thread is accomplished. From this handfull of lists, everyone can see the best bet for a bugfree and enjoyable game is less mods, not every you see. Regarding me is a question for other proffessions..


p.s. Chieftain Milt, I was thinking you share with the rest of the poor and wealthy, your choice of mods, not to send me a pm.. :rotfl: Godarn, that is really a good book, that From now to eternity(still not shure if that is the right title, by James Jones)..

Hot as hell..

http://bts-mods.com/forums/Smileys/BtS/drinkbuddies.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

bts really has better icons, it's easier to express myself!

[Jimbuna]

Hangover guy, I only notticed that the letters are in black after a couple of days and then I said what the hell.. :rotfl:

Thanks to all for answering..

I will try to rename the thread into modders choice of mods.. That said, I hope some guys that are not using gwx 2.1, modders, will reveal what they play..

To OLC: Thanks for replying.Your list of mdos is somewhat short but I think it keep the game safe.. I was thinking about this. When you combine several mods not compatible, you have to make a customized files. I though every modder provides a list of mods and their customized files. OFCOURSE: only if the mods they use are made for that supermod or stock game.

This is an example. A question to jimbuna: :rotfl: I should say to the chief of the boat: :know:
What kind of changes you made to englishnames.cfg in the sea folder and if you did any.
That would be all in one place. I don't know if everybody understands me or not.

Drive safe!

p.s. Here is so hot I cannot understand me either..

Freedom and a cold beer..

Here is my EnglishNames CFG:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u3llnsm1n47

http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[STEED]

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - English Nav Map and Grid Refs
GWX - No Medals on the Crew
GWX - TA1.3_Seafloor - 256mb
Harbour Sound
Real Depth Charge
Stopwatch and Tube touch ups
Torpedo Damage Final
WhaleChaser_Mod
LifeBoats&Debris_v3_B
Sonar Sounds
AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
STEEDS New IXB
Interior Diving Angles
Contactlines_ for GWX2.0
GWX 2.1 Spy Sat

[Jimbuna]

Spy Sat.....you said it was for two people you knew :lol:

[STEED]

Spy Sat.....you said it was for two people you knew :lol:

It's 1943 jim, its a bloody desert out there. :rotfl:

Yea they got it with my tweak job on the eels allowing them the Type IX eel in all years and there having a ball. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

Spy Sat.....you said it was for two people you knew :lol:

It's 1943 jim, its a bloody desert out there. :rotfl:

Yea they got it with my tweak job on the eels allowing them the Type IX eel in all years and there having a ball. :sunny:

SINK EM ALL!! :lol:

[STEED]

Spy Sat.....you said it was for two people you knew :lol:

It's 1943 jim, its a bloody desert out there. :rotfl:

Yea they got it with my tweak job on the eels allowing them the Type IX eel in all years and there having a ball. :sunny:

SINK EM ALL!! :lol:

That is what they are doing, jammy gits. :rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

jammy gits. :rotfl:
I don't have that mod. Where can I download it?

[kiwi_2005]

Are you modders insane! No OLC mod added exception to onelifecrisis - Ya can't play GWX or even the stock game without OLC!

Ahh i see ya all auto target noobs :lol: :arrgh!:

J/king

[Wolfehunter]

For combo wakefix exhaust, have you made changes to draught and range values in rubini's dat files and adjusted the height values to 0,45 to rb's files?
Just asking to be shure!

Anyways :up:I did originally but PT did his own so Im using his. Sorry for the delay in answering I forgot I've posted here.:damn:

[Jimbuna]

jammy gits. :rotfl:
I don't have that mod. Where can I download it?

http://files.filefront.com/GWX+21+Spy+Sat7z/;10094128;/fileinfo.html

[SpeedyPC]

I have my complete mod enabler setup

GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - Crash Dive 20 Metres
GWX - English Nav Map and Grid Refs
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Hunter's Moon
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - Lite Harbor Traffic
GWX - Moddified Aircraft Damage
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
GWX - Sil TGA Fixes
GWX - Sliding Stations Panel v2.0
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
OLCE2 v2.4.2 Pt1
OLCE2 v2.4.2 Normal Particle Effects (with reflections) Pt2
OLCE2 v2.4.2 Crew Skins Pt3
OLCE2 v2.4.2 Object Reflections (with VIIC41) Pt4
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - Mission Orders Lite v2.1
GWX - Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
GWX - Warning Orders v2.1
GWX - RLE v2 Daily Double 1100_2100
GWX - Water Stream for Uboats v4.0
GWX - Community Units
GWX - VonDos Shipyard Mod
GWX - LifeBoats&Debris_v3b Pt1
GWX - Effects for GWX v2.1 Pt2
GWX - SH4 for SH3 v204f1 Pt3
GWX - SH4 Effects Lifeboat Pt4
GWX - Racerboys Exhaust Complete Mods Pt5
Type7 Rusty-BD U47 color
Silent Hunter 3 v1.4B English Reloaded No CD

Keep me busy at uboat war:up: :rock: :rock:

My setup is BLOODY ROCK 'N ROLL MAN!

PS any more great mod out there

[Sailor Steve]

jammy gits. :rotfl:
I don't have that mod. Where can I download it?

http://files.filefront.com/GWX+21+Spy+Sat7z/;10094128;/fileinfo.html
That's the 'Spy Sat' mod! I want the 'Jammy Gits' mod! Steed tried the same trick privately!

You guys are holding out on me! Where's my 'Jammy Gits' mod?:x

[STEED]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

jammy gits. :rotfl:
I don't have that mod. Where can I download it?

http://files.filefront.com/GWX+21+Spy+Sat7z/;10094128;/fileinfo.html
That's the 'Spy Sat' mod! I want the 'Jammy Gits' mod! Steed tried the same trick privately!

You guys are holding out on me! Where's my 'Jammy Gits' mod?:x

Oh sorry! :oops:

Here you go :lol:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8566/jamtartgi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A Lite version too :p

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6517/jammybiscuits1lm1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[STEED]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8566/jamtartgi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6517/jammybiscuits1lm1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What is that muck? :arrgh!:

[Sailor Steve]

Jam, obviously!:rock:

[STEED]

Eat that and your in Heart attack city.

[Jimbuna]

Eat that and your in Heart attack city.

You never enjoyed a warm jam tart (the dible kind) or a nice slice of jam and toast before.....not even as a kid ? http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1817/thinkbigsw1yo4.gif

[STEED]

Eat that and your in Heart attack city.

You never enjoyed a warm jam tart (the dible kind) or a nice slice of jam and toast before.....not even as a kid ? http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1817/thinkbigsw1yo4.gif

Most food today is full of sugar & salt, no thanks. Better end it there as we are not in the GT Forum. :lol:

[asanovic7]

I wonder what is the mod combo racerboy uses..

Cheers!

[TheDarkWraith]

I wonder what is the mod combo racerboy uses..

Cheers!

Many un-released ones...;)

[asanovic7]

Then I hope some will surface soon?
:up:

[asanovic7]

Don't know what to say..

[TheDarkWraith]

Then I hope some will surface soon?
:up:
Cases in point: flags for the subs, torpedoes for ships (yes a little unrealistic at over 100 knots speed but still cool as hell), and the adding of debris and bodies to effects in particles.dat file. Realizing that we have to work with the controllers and all given to us not all mods can be perfect and true to life. Some give and take has to take place. The mere fact that someone can even take an idea and bring it to life in the game (all-be-it sometimes less than perfect due to limitations of the game itself) should be enough, but to some it's not.
I wrote software to help bring my live-AI-ships idea to the masses. The software would edit the necessary files adding the necessary nodes and text needed so that the end-user could enjoy this idea of mine. It would scan the .dat files looking for errors and report them to the user so that the files could be fixed to prevent CTDs. At that point I had enough and it was time for me to walk away for awhile and enjoy creating for myself.
The software mentioned above would allow you to reconfigure all the nodes on any ship or sub. If you wanted a different searchlight, you could have it. If you wanted a different gun on a particular mount on a certain ship, you could have it. It was simply select node, select new gun, click equip. Presto. You wanted to change the start or end date that a particular node was used, easily done. Yes you could edit files with a hex editor and/or notepad but not everyone was comfortable doing so or knew how to do it.
Will I ever release this software? Maybe. I never finished it. It's about 90% complete and fully functional the way it is. I lost interest in it when I took my extended shore leave. Before I left I sent some 'samples' to certain individuals for testing and the results were very positive.
Where was I going with all this? I really don't know. Maybe I was trying to make the point that crazy, wild, or different ideas should be embraced, welcomed, and given a chance. Yes, some may be unrealistic (due to limitations of the game itself) but before passing judgement ask yourself if you can do it better....and if so, then do it. If not, maybe then you can help in some way for the better.
If someone adds some functionality or alters your mod in a way because it pleases them then embrace the fact that they are using your mod as a base. Nothing is perfect, anything and everything can always use improvement.

[Jaeger]

Then I hope some will surface soon?
:up:

Nothing is perfect, anything and everything can always use improvement.

Hi racerboy,

you gave the point to yourself why you should release your little prog. if others can work with it, you can get feedback and bring it to a new level. new ideas for new features for example will come, when others work with it. thats the big advantage in a big community: ideas and creativity.


you know it best, i remember some days before, you mentioned the gwx team didnt release all their tools or they didnt give all their know how to others. thats a prob in a free community. feel free to release your tool and earn the good feeling of doing something good for lots of people. when doing this, you can get more ideas, information and critics.

hey, i love your mods and your creativity is brilliant. we need these people, who are interested in "impossible" things...

come on, greetz, Jaeger

[Madox58]

You forgot to mention it was purposely designed and programed to
crash on every error that did not meet YOUR idea of what is correct.

[ReallyDedPoet]

@ Racerboy, edited your last post. Did the same with Privateers. If there are issues that are unresolved, discuss them via PM, not in the forums\threads. And if that cannot be done, then maybe it's best to leave them in the past.

Let's move forward with this lads and turn a new page :yep:, there is enough room at
SUBSIM for all :D


RDP

[Onkel Neal]

Good call, RDP.

[Madox58]

I Agree 100%
Good job RDP!!
:up:

[Wartzay]

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4533/modsuk8.jpg

[asanovic7]

writing on this thread, thanks wartzay..

Still I am shocked at how low is the number of activated mods, concerning that all of them are more or less compatible.. :rotfl:
Great to see it though.

Bare knuckle fight :arrgh!:
Bad one rdp, you erased the parts I would like to read.. :rotfl:

If you two get in a serious fight, that would not be ok.. But bare knuckle fight :up:

Kidding..

privateer is pretty p..d off on someone when he is not accepting pm's. Answer, Mate!!

Cheers!!

p.s. about that mate/Mate issue. I am wondering does capital letter "relieve" the issue with mating or what?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Bad one rdp, you erased the parts I would like to read.. :rotfl:


Ok, you asked for it....

[RDP cues Spiderman Theme]

RDP, RDP, friendly Moderator RDP, close a thread were not sure, just depends what it's for, hey there, there goes RDP :lol::lol:


RDP

[asanovic7]

:huh:

[asanovic7]

I have seen this thread made parkera happy so just wanted to say..

Anyone else?

Cheers!
:rotfl:

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Yeah, I'm NOT organized. :shifty:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2930/31923796od6.jpg

[asanovic7]

Thomsen..

What is that 3d engine room?
WHERE IS THAT MOD? :88)

p.s. empty campaign? :doh:
p.s.s. ehanced damage? traitor :doh:

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Thomsen..

What is that 3d engine room?
WHERE IS THAT MOD? :88)

p.s. empty campaign? :doh:
p.s.s. ehanced damage? traitor :doh:

The empty campaign is for testing purposes, it has no scrips, no ships, no ports, nothing but land. So the game loads in 15 seconds or less in my system. Great for testing new mods I'm working at.

The Enhanced damage effects is part of GWX 2.1. Explosions and particle effects. Eye candy.

The 3D engine room is a new mod that allows us to

[asanovic7]

Thanks for explaining the thing to me..
I was quite wondering what are those things..

http://bts-mods.com/forums/Smileys/BtS/shootingsmilie.gif (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29;)


It would be better if you would point to that new mod that allows to

[h.sie]

hi PT,

where can one download the Empty Campaign-Mod?

and the 3d engine room??

thanx, h.sie

[Philipp_Thomsen]

hi PT,

where can one download the Empty Campaign-Mod?

and the 3d engine room??

thanx, h.sie

I'll upload it to my filefront account when I get home. It's great for those who enjoy playing single missions, cos the game loads up in seconds. Just doens't work for campaign.

The engine room mod you can download at

[asanovic7]

I don't know is that happening because I use a different set of mods compared to you..
But there is an issue with empty campaign files and single missions..
The issue is your uboot doesn't keep the depth, just falls to the bottom.. After a while.. But maybe it's me..
So I am mostly using it to test new mods on surface..

[Philipp_Thomsen]

I don't know is that happening because I use a different set of mods compared to you..
But there is an issue with empty campaign files and single missions..
The issue is your uboot doesn't keep the depth, just falls to the bottom.. After a while.. But maybe it's me..
So I am mostly using it to test new mods on surface..

Nope, I don't have that issue.

I'll make avaliable at my ff page as soon as I get home. :up:

[asanovic7]

can't find that 3d engine mod?
What is the name of the mod?

Are you pulling my leg?

Raining, forbidden to smoke and you are messing.. Screw you guys!

[Philipp_Thomsen]

can't find that 3d engine mod?
What is the name of the mod?

Are you pulling my leg?

Raining, forbidden to smoke and you are messing.. Screw you guys!

:lol:

[_Seth_]

Bad one rdp, you erased the parts I would like to read.. :rotfl:

Ok, you asked for it....

[RDP cues Spiderman Theme]

RDP, RDP, friendly Moderator RDP, close a thread were not sure, just depends what it's for, hey there, there goes RDP :lol::lol:


RDP

:rotfl:RDP, you'r the best poet amongst the moderators! *Can't wait for the music video! PS: Neal want to see some "body" in that video...:cool:;)*
:rotfl:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Bad one rdp, you erased the parts I would like to read.. :rotfl:

Ok, you asked for it....

[RDP cues Spiderman Theme]

RDP, RDP, friendly Moderator RDP, close a thread were not sure, just depends what it's for, hey there, there goes RDP :lol::lol:


RDP
:rotfl:RDP, you'r the best poet amongst the moderators! *Can't wait for the music video! PS: Neal want to see some "body" in that video...:cool:;)*
:rotfl:

Thanks Seth :) My SUBSIM poetry contribution :p

Though some have told me with that one ^^^^, not to quit my day job :oops::oops::lol:, I
think it was Mush Martin :yep:


RDP

[FIREWALL]

How many ways has this SAME question been asked in the past MONTH !!!! :damn:

Or in a different way. OVER and OVER and OVER :damn:

I could just SCREAM :eek:

[asanovic7]

Que passa con tigo, amigo? Brandy, no?

[Philipp_Thomsen]

What's up Firewall? :hmm:

[ReallyDedPoet]

What's up Firewall? :hmm:

Was wondering the same thing :yep:


RDP

[FIREWALL]

Sorry All.:oops:

Bad morning. :down: Coffee maker broke down :damn: No caffeine :dead:

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Sorry All.:oops:

Bad morning. :down: Coffee maker broke down :damn: No caffeine :dead:

But at what question were you refering to? Explain!

[Jimbuna]

Sorry All.:oops:

Bad morning. :down: Coffee maker broke down :damn: No caffeine :dead:

You could have always used the expression often used in the UK to the usual suspect:

"pee or get off the pot" ;)

[DirtyACE]

This seems like the appropriate thread to post my questions in.

- Basically I need some help with mod activation order. I have been reading various threads and PDF readme files the last three days but I'm still confused. There's just too much info out there. Below is a list of mods I would like to use. Can anyone please give me some advice as to what order I should be activating these in JGSME? Thanks.

AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
CapZapEmblemsPack_Final
Community units
ENV - Water_Stream_and_exhaust_smoke
Fuel Economy Mod v1.2
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - English Nav Map and Grid Refs
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
LifeBoats&Debris_v3B
Rowers_for_LifeBoats&Debris_v3B
LRT v2.02 Final with SRM
GWX 2.1 fix patch LRT 2.02
Integrated Orders LRT 2.02 patch
OLCE2
OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Crew Skins
OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Enhanced Damage Effects
OLCE2 Fixed GWX 2.1 Ship Reflections
STzSinkingShipFix 2.1
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
WB's Decks Awash

- Another question I have is regarding various U-boat skins. Should these be installed after all the rest of the mods or do they also need to be installed in a certain order within the overall order of the mods I listed?

- And the last question is about the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix. After I unpacked the rar file, I noticed there's a MODS subfolder within AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix folder. Does this folder need to remain where it is or do I need to take the contents of the subfolder and put them into the MODS folder within the SHIII directory?

Sorry for all the questions. It's just that I haven't played SH3 for a few months and now there's so much info flying at me. I would really appreciate any help you could give me.

[bigboywooly]

When you enable the AOTD mod the MODS folder will overwrite the contents of the current one
Looks confusing but isnt

[DirtyACE]

When you enable the AOTD mod the MODS folder will overwrite the contents of the current one
Looks confusing but isnt
Thanks for clearing that up bigboywooly :up:

Any ideas regarding my other two questions?

[bigboywooly]

Skins can go in anytime as should just be a TGA but best to add them in near the end if you gonna chop and change them

If you are using SH3commander with the GWX specific files then you dont need these 2
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub

SH3commander will enable them automatically when in a med flotilla or you choose the VIIC\41

GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas only if you are Oct 44 or later in career

The rest look ok to me
OLC can give you a better idea re his mods as not much of an idea which order they need to go in

[DirtyACE]

Skins can go in anytime as should just be a TGA but best to add them in near the end if you gonna chop and change them

If you are using SH3commander with the GWX specific files then you dont need these 2
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub

SH3commander will enable them automatically when in a med flotilla or you choose the VIIC\41

GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas only if you are Oct 44 or later in career

The rest look ok to me
OLC can give you a better idea re his mods as not much of an idea which order they need to go in

So you think that the order in which I posted the mods (minus ones you said should not be included) should be good to run?

[bigboywooly]

Yes should be ok but check the OLC ones
I know they have to be in a certain order but not using it :oops: so not sure about those
Tis all trial and error really as some mods will overwrite others

Oh
Merged campaign
If you use that you wont see the AOTD ships in German ports and convoys
Unless you are planning to sail to Penang there isnt much point in having it enabled
Will speed up your load times slightly too

[nikbear]

Skins can go in anytime as should just be a TGA but best to add them in near the end if you gonna chop and change them

If you are using SH3commander with the GWX specific files then you dont need these 2
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub

SH3commander will enable them automatically when in a med flotilla or you choose the VIIC\41

GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas only if you are Oct 44 or later in career

The rest look ok to me
OLC can give you a better idea re his mods as not much of an idea which order they need to go in

Nobody told me that if you use SH3Cmdr you don't have to enable the VIIC/41 player sub,it does it automatically:damn: No wonder I was getting CTD's with an old career that had got that far,I gave up in the end:cry:

[bigboywooly]

Skins can go in anytime as should just be a TGA but best to add them in near the end if you gonna chop and change them

If you are using SH3commander with the GWX specific files then you dont need these 2
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub

SH3commander will enable them automatically when in a med flotilla or you choose the VIIC\41

GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas only if you are Oct 44 or later in career

The rest look ok to me
OLC can give you a better idea re his mods as not much of an idea which order they need to go in
Nobody told me that if you use SH3Cmdr you don't have to enable the VIIC/41 player sub,it does it automatically:damn: No wonder I was getting CTD's with an old career that had got that far,I gave up in the end:cry:

Well it has been mentioned before
Dont think it was on the manual as the commander cfgs were a late item ready for release

[DirtyACE]

Yes should be ok but check the OLC ones
I know they have to be in a certain order but not using it :oops: so not sure about those
Tis all trial and error really as some mods will overwrite others

Oh
Merged campaign
If you use that you wont see the AOTD ships in German ports and convoys
Unless you are planning to sail to Penang there isnt much point in having it enabled
Will speed up your load times slightly too
I don't mind the longer loading time, plus I thought the Merged campaign was essential not only for the Indian Ocean but also for Black Sea and Mediterranean. Should I in that case only load either Black Sea or Indian Ocean campaigns when I actually transfer there?

I just tried activating AOTD and followed by the Community Ships and it gave me a message that several files were going to be overwritten

"EnglishNames.cfg" has already been altered by the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" mod.
"FrenchNames.cfg" has already been altered by the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" mod.
"GermanNames.cfg" has already been altered by the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" mod.
Folder "data\Textures\TNormal\tex" has already been added by the "AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix" mod.

Is this ok?

This is why I'm asking for a mod activation order because I have no idea which files from which mods can be overwritten and which shouldn't or are not recommended to be overwritten.

[bigboywooly]

The med is on the normal unmerged files
Only the Black Sea and Indian Ocean are missing from those compared to the merged and both those are available seperately

The JSGME warning is perfectly ok
The Englishnames plus Fr and Ge are updated in the AOTD mod to include those ships
The same files are updated in the community units so you are being warned one is overwriting the other
Tis ok
The last one is just telling you textures have been added again - not altered - just added too
:up:

[DirtyACE]

The med is on the normal unmerged files
Only the Black Sea and Indian Ocean are missing from those compared to the merged and both those are available seperately

The JSGME warning is perfectly ok
The Englishnames plus Fr and Ge are updated in the AOTD mod to include those ships
The same files are updated in the community units so you are being warned one is overwriting the other
Tis ok
The last one is just telling you textures have been added again - not altered - just added too
:up:

Thank you again BBW :up::D

[Wreford-Brown]

Late to the party, but my mods are:
BBW's AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - No Medals on Crew
WB's Fuel Economy mod v1.2
danlisa's Real Depth Charge
Venatore's Hunters Moon
Venatore's Internal U-Boat Sound Effect
Venatore's Intro Music - U-Boat Band of Brothers
GWX 2.1 - Colour contacts
jimbuna's Community units
AOTD's Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
flakmonkey's sub screen skins
Rubini's Water Stream and Exhausts
Rubini's Lifeboats and Debris v3b
Rowers_for_LifeBoats&Debris_v3B
WBNN Messages v1.1
WB's Deck Gun Range
WB's XXI BETA v1.4
IABLs New T2 Tanker v1.0
Steiner's Tugboat
VonDos' HMS Warspite
VonDos' Old Style Hospital Ship
VonDos' RM Aquila
VonDos' RMS Aquitania
VonDos' RMS Queen Elizabeth
VonDos' RMS Queen Mary
VonDos' RMS Titanic
VonDos' SS Empress of Britain
VonDos' SS Normandie
VonDos' SS Rex
WB's Decks Awash
VonDos' RHN Averof

And my SH3 Commander mods are:
SH3 Cmdr Cfg files for GWX 2.1
GWX 2.1 Skin Pack for SH3 Cmdr
Sailor Steve's Load Screens
WBNN SH3 Cmdr (Most recent) v1.1
WB's SH3 Cmdr Intro Message
WB's XXI SH3 Cmdr BETA v1.4

I like to rename my mods with the modders name so I can keep track of where they came from and so I know who to ask permission from if I want to use the mod.