Am I allowed to call this Uberboot...

[Xantrokoles]

... or is this a name with copyright by MushMartin?

I wanna use the same properties as in MM's Uberboot mod in Sh3.
In Sh4 you are able to have a lot of guns with working crew blabla...

some screenies without Row or Environmental:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4025/sh42008052921505928ih7.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7964/sh42008052921501585wg8.jpg

Please give your own oppinion:up:

[Webster]

well its just common sense AND common manners not to take another persons mod name. it is in my opinion no different than taking his mod and calling it your own.

as soon as you release a mod it is considered to be your mod and the name is considered yours as well, others dont have the right to use it without permission.

if you want to do a mod that does everything his did for sh3 then do it but use a different name and you should credit him with being the inspiration for what you did.

he put endless hours of work into his mod and you would be reflecting on his mod because of the confusion of two mods with the same name.

if you like the name uber boot so much then use the english translation and call your mod "super boat", then there is no confusion or stepping on toes.

he is very helpfull and im sure he would help you avoid things he had issues with in making his mod, try PM him and see what help he can offer you.

[keltos01]

You have a thing for guns ! ;)
Why not call this the "porcupine" boat ?:rotfl:

[Mush Martin]

It will be all good as long as it handles right :arrgh!:

Holee crap! Nice tower

[SilentOtto]

LOL! Looks nasty, I think it's cool :up:

[FIREWALL]

It will be all good as long as it handles right :arrgh!:

Holee crap! Nice tower



:up: :up: :up: :up:

[Mush Martin]

stuff that worked ......

Extended Radar coverage for battle control
with long eyes and fast legs you can take on
the Grand Fleet itself one at a time.

auto evasive maneuvers , this made it a much
much less busy job driving uber and allowed the
player to soak up ambiance.

with higher speeds adding mass to balance
the physics auto evasion could roll you over
and capsize you without a good tweaking.

for the player
fighting from the bridge not the guns is a far far
more effective method in surface combat.

more if I think of it of course and good luck.
M

[AVGWarhawk]

What you have there is a submersible battleship. Yep, looks like a uber to me:D

[Madox58]

I'd say name it a bit differently.
MM did a heck of a job with Uber.
As any and all Modder deserve respect?
We owe him that much.
He took a heck of a lot of needless flak over that mod.
:nope:
I feel he should be respected for that!

MM
You blazed a trail that many have followed.
You were just to damned early!!
:rotfl:

But they got over it didn't they?
:up:

[fair_weather]

I dub thee: "Kampfboot" (Battle Boat in German)

Looks fun, too bad I don't have 1.5....:(

[The Fishlord]

Release it I say! Call it a Type XIB. Awesome cruiser there.

[Rockin Robbins]

Looks like a fine target for Lurker_hlb3's evil rocket planes. A movie of that could be pretty cool! (good luck):arrgh!:

[Mush Martin]

FrankenBoote, Uberstein, and XantroKruizer are all available.
but if you want the name you can use it. Im not proud have you
seen my work?.


One other thing......

You should have enough armour for two minutes under heavy fire.
or thereabouts. with good skill you can survive alot with that
and with no skill you can still be in it long enough to enjoy it.
but your still killable. you have to be killable to make it worthwhile
for the player theres no adreniline in immortality.

M

[Webster]

FrankenBoote, Uberstein, and XantroKruizer are all available.
but if you want the name you can use it. Im not proud have you
seen my work?.

M

well you have MM's blessing but if you are planning on naming it uber boot then at least call it "uber boot 2" so its not too confusing having 2 different mods with the same name :up:

[FIREWALL]

I dub thee: "Kampfboot" (Battle Boat in German)

Looks fun, too bad I don't have 1.5....:(


I hope he picks that name.:yep:

Sounds KooooL :D

[Xantrokoles]

Thank you all for your advises!

It will be all good as long as it handles right :arrgh!:

Holee crap! Nice tower

Thank you.
But my mod is not as good as the uber and it will have another name:yep:

He took a heck of a lot of needless flak over that mod.
I respect this. And I know there will be people not liking it.
That's

This is the reason I like the Uberboot:
You should have enough armour for two minutes under heavy fire.
or thereabouts. with good skill you can survive alot with that
and with no skill you can still be in it long enough to enjoy it.
but your still killable. you have to be killable to make it worthwhile
for the player theres no adreniline in immortality.

This should not be a cheater mod!
With real submarines you have no chance to fight surfaced.
With this sub your tactical abilities are claimed.

The mod should be in protection to the Uberboot but not the Uberboot.
Anyhow the credits go to Mush Martin for his research of THE settings for having a Uber- and not a Cheatboat.

Due to your nominations for a name I decided for XID2 'Kampfboot':up:
All other offers were not bad too :D

[keltos01]

Good choice Aye Aye Sir !

[ReallyDedPoet]

FrankenBoote, Uberstein, and XantroKruizer are all available.

What about The German Barry Bondenstein ( a distant cousin to Barry Bonds )?


RDP

[Xantrokoles]

FrankenBoote, Uberstein, and XantroKruizer are all available.

What about The German Barry Bondenstein ( a distant cousin to Barry Bonds )?


RDP
Oh I guess this is a insider;)

EDIT: Snorkel working fine.
speed:
surf:23,4knt
subm:12knt
snk:17knt
<- Thank you Martin for this great settings, more would be unteressting.

I wanna add, the sub is driving 25 with special enigeer.

[ReallyDedPoet]

FrankenBoote, Uberstein, and XantroKruizer are all available.

What about The German Barry Bondenstein ( a distant cousin to Barry Bonds )?


RDP
Oh I guess this is a insider;)



Yeah :yep: ^^^, sorry about the mini-hijack, good luck with it :up:


RDP

[Xantrokoles]

Yeah :yep: ^^^, sorry about the mini-hijack, good luck with it :up:


RDP

Forums are made for this stuff;)

[The Fishlord]

Oh I guess this is a insider;)

EDIT: Snorkel working fine.
speed:
surf:23,4knt
subm:12knt
snk:17knt
<- Thank you Martin for this great settings, more would be unteressting.

I wanna add, the sub is driving 25 with special enigeer.

Is your Type XXI (extendable) snorkel included then? Or do you just mean snorkel as in a decks awash type depth?

[FIREWALL]

Thank you all for your advises!

It will be all good as long as it handles right :arrgh!:

Holee crap! Nice tower

Thank you.
But my mod is not as good as the uber and it will have another name:yep:

He took a heck of a lot of needless flak over that mod.
I respect this. And I know there will be people not liking it.
That's

This is the reason I like the Uberboot:
You should have enough armour for two minutes under heavy fire.
or thereabouts. with good skill you can survive alot with that
and with no skill you can still be in it long enough to enjoy it.
but your still killable. you have to be killable to make it worthwhile
for the player theres no adreniline in immortality.

This should not be a cheater mod!
With real submarines you have no chance to fight surfaced.
With this sub your tactical abilities are claimed.

The mod should be in protection to the Uberboot but not the Uberboot.
Anyhow the credits go to Mush Martin for his research of THE settings for having a Uber- and not a Cheatboat.

Due to your nominations for a name I decided for XID2 'Kampfboot':up:
All other offers were not bad too :D


YAAAAY !!! :D I was hopeing you'd pick that name.:up:

[Ducimus]

One of these days im going to hatch a utter atrocity err i mean monstrocity if a sub mod. Im not sure what ill call it, but this much i know.

- It will have at least a 100 kt surface speed
- hydrogen peroxide submerged speed of the same
- have 100 armor in the zon file to make it virtually indestructable.
- 500 meter crash depth
- its torpedo's will be armed with global thermal nuclear warheads that travel at a 100 kt speed and an impulse rating of .. i dunno.. 9,000 or so.
- Will have twin 5"/25 cal deck guns, each round tantatmount to launching a tomohawk cruise missle.
- In the roster file, it will have names like, USS Quake, USS Doom3, USS Unreal, and maybe even USS Crysis.
- Probably use a balao model, and be available at the start of the war.
- Two, twin 40 MM mounts.. or .. hell never mind the two 5"/25's, ill try for FOUR of them.


Now if i'll ever have to time to burn making such a thing is highly dubious, but i imagine id catch alot of flak if i did. :rotfl:

[Xantrokoles]

Is your Type XXI (extendable) snorkel included then? Or do you just mean snorkel as in a decks awash type depth?
It is a hinged snort like in real life, but I can't add the manhole from sh3 subs, but anyway it is not bad;)

YAAAAY !!! :D I was hopeing you'd pick that name.:up:
I just thought about the American pronounciation:rotfl:

One of these days im going to hatch a utter atrocity err i mean monstrocity if a sub mod. Im not sure what ill call it, but this much i know.

- It will have at least a 100 kt surface speed
- hydrogen peroxide submerged speed of the same
- have 100 armor in the zon file to make it virtually indestructable.
- 500 meter crash depth
- its torpedo's will be armed with global thermal nuclear warheads that travel at a 100 kt speed and an impulse rating of .. i dunno.. 9,000 or so.
- Will have twin 5"/25 cal deck guns, each round tantatmount to launching a tomohawk cruise missle.
- In the roster file, it will have names like, USS Quake, USS Doom3, USS Unreal, and maybe even USS Crysis.
- Probably use a balao model, and be available at the start of the war.
- Two, twin 40 MM mounts.. or .. hell never mind the two 5"/25's, ill try for FOUR of them.


Now if i'll ever have to time to burn making such a thing is highly dubious, but i imagine id catch alot of flak if i did. :rotfl:

I guess you got drity wet dreams at night:D
But this sub shouldn't sound overacted.

[Rene]

HI Xantro
what a monster sub^^
when will you release the sub?
subs are the best lovers;) you know

[Xantrokoles]

I release it when its ready:smug:

[W4lt3r]

Say, after this one can you make an customized gato or something, with 2-3 twin bofors and 2 5" 25 cal deck guns? I'd like to see something nice for the USN aswell :lol:

But im surely gonna give this one a go for sure :rock:

[Mush Martin]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img25-4-2007_0-2.jpg

you mean that sort of thing?

[W4lt3r]

Something like that, but the bow conning tower gun looks like a 4" deck gun and stern conning gun seems a single barreled bofors to me :roll:

But having something like that would be sweet.

[Xantrokoles]

I got problems with the flood speed and the dive planes drag.

Going from a normal depth to periscope depth you fly out of the water.
you do this with every speed, execept 0-8 knots.

This part of the physic engine is not as good as the sh3 one.

[Mush Martin]

Hmmmm :hmm:..............


Bouancy ingame is still a function of submerged mass v. surfaced mass
when theres an imbalance you have either positive or negative bouyancy
when theres a match you have neutral. in truth isnt it really the same game
engine with a rework and some changes. I think with the settings correlating
in the same way as shIII uber then you should get out similar results.

I am of course uncertain but I think so. honestly I want to support the
project but I have previous commitments for projects all over that are
getting further and further behind, so I have to just limit myself to advice
for this month at least. None the less. out right speed affects diving and
surfacing as well as dive plane drag and prop effect.

Keep us posted.
M

[CapnHeck]

. . . . to this mega-beastly submersible gunship? :arrgh!: I was looking forward to duking it out with two Fletchers simultaneously!

[Task Force]

forgotten/ died probably.

[-BISMARCK-]

loool where good mod would be kind enough to tell me where I can download?