[REL] Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start

[fred8615]

Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Version 4.3

This mod will allow you to begin an American Career before the Pearl Harbor attack in the stock game, Real Fleet Boat, Trigger Maru - Overhauled, Run Silent, Run Deep, the Campaign, the MidwayCareer mod, the Subsim.com Narwhal mod, or a combination of MidwayCareer and the Narwhal mod. The reason for creating this is because the game includes radio messages and radio station programing from December 7th, 8th, and so on, and users of my radio mods know I've included programing from those dates and before as well. But the Career menu in the stock game won't let you see or hear these as it starts no earlier than December 8th, you don't get into your office until the 9th, and your first patrol starts a day later. So I've created this mod to address that problem.


This update:

- Changes the American neutrality dates so the Japanese will now act as though the war has already begun, so now you have to be careful around them. You can now also send contact reports, and be ordered to ignore or attempt to shadow the contact.

- Changes the start dates for the Japanese airbases on Formosa and mainland China, so they won't begin operating before December 7th, 1941, and thus won't attack Manila based boats before then.

- Edited the 7 pre-war Asiatic Fleet missions to include orders to report Japanese movements, and removed that specific order from the old 7th mission.

- Tweaked the location and heading of the pre-attack battleships in Pearl to be more inline with the location of the wrecks later.

- Edited and added the files necessary to fix the sub upgrade bug in TMO 2.5 in the TMO standalone version. This means you will lose the "Terrible T" campaign, but it was the ONLY way to get it to work properly in 2.5.


The mod is set to start on November 30th, 1941. This will place you in your office on December 1st, and your first patrol will start the next day. The original career start dates are included. I've only added an extra one at the top of the CareerStart.upc, and renumbered the following ones. So if you choose, you can still select the original start dates, and see the movies associated with them.

This mod includes a new set of missions for before the war. This will prevent you being ordered to sink enemy shipping, do photo recons, etc., before the war actually begins. All the calls for the wartime missions have had their start dates modified so they won't appear until December 7th. This means you won't get them until the second patrol of your career, or you select the next start date instead of November 30th. There are seven Asiatic Fleet missions, and eight Pearl Harbor based missions (these are also used by the MidwayCareer mod). See the included prePH missions.txt for details on these missions, some of which have been updated.

It also includes in all the missions Admiral Stark's "Execute unrestricted warfare" order, and for the RSRDC users, those missions also include the "Air raid on Pearl Harbor" message they removed from their versions of the messages.txt file. Rather than add them to a new messages.txt I thought they were both important enough to display on screen rather than a notice in the Messages Log, which would then require you to open the Messages clipboard to read them. Note for users of Webster's Reduced Radio Traffic for v1.4 & v1.5 mod: This mod already has the Admiral Stark order in it. To avoid getting duplicate messages, before enabling, open the messages.txt in that mod and delete that line in it.

For those who like to start at the dock when based at Pearl Harbor, I've included a Pre-warPH_LOC.mis file which removes the wrecks of the battleships hit in the Pearl Harbor attack and replaces them with pre-attack versions as well as the other BBs present at the time. Only the battleships have been added by me. All others ships are from the original Campaign_LOC.mis file, which this is an edited version of. While Battleship Row now displays properly when you sail out of Pearl Harbor, it does not when you return. Because the air attack is not modeled in the game, no ships are hit or sunk when you return after the 7th. For this reason I suggest that for realism and historical accuracy, you use the "End patrol" feature outside rather than sailing into the harbor. The wrecks will return on your second patrol. You should be aware that adding the extra ships does slightly increase the lag using Pearl Harbor always has.

There's also a background image for the November 30th, 1941 date. This way you don't see the USS Arizona all blown up before it happens.

Install using the JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler. You will have eight install options:


Stock and RFB Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using the stock game, or any version of the standalone Real Fleet Boat.

TMO Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using Trigger Maru - Overhauled 2.2 or 2.5.

RSRDC_SH15_Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using the stock game and Run Silent, Run Deep, the Campaign.

RSRDC_RFB_Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using Real Fleet Boat and Run Silent, Run Deep, the Campaign.

RSRDC_TMO_Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using Trigger Maru - Overhauled and Run Silent, Run Deep, the Campaign.

MidwayCareer Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using peabody's MidwayCareer campaign start mod.

New Narwhal K v 1.8 Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you're using Subsim.com's Narwhal submarine mod.

Midway & Narwhal Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start - Install this version if you want to use the MidwayCareer and Narwhal mod together. Note that with this option you do NOT have to install the MidwayCareer mod itself first. Both files used by it have been modified here so they can include the Narwhal. You will need to install the Narwhal mod.


Install your chosen version AFTER installing the required mod(s) first.

If you don't want to use JSGME, extract to a temp area, then copy/move the Data folder of the appropriate version to your SH4 install. Click "Yes" when it asks if you want to overwrite. You may wish to make a backup copy of the original files before using this method, in case you want/need to restore them later.

This mod only affects the American Career when using the SH4 U-Boat Add-on.

Special thanks to Ducimus for letting me alter the TMO files, lurker_hlb3 for permission to do the RSRDC versions, to the RFB modders for using the stock game file so I didn't even have to ask them, and extra, extra special thanks to peabody, not only for his MidwayCareer mod and the permission to edit it entirely, but for his invaluable assistance in helping me figure out how to create and edit the files to use the pre-war missions.


Download from here on Subsim (under Gameplay Mods)

From Mediafire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?310mafdcqfg0q

[Hylander_1314]

Thanks Fred!

I edited the career upc file like you suggested on the other thread, and it worked great. But I have also snagged a copy of your upc file so I cut and paste if need be in the future.:up:

[andycaccia]

Of course, it will be a non combat campaign... until pearl harbor. It may be fun if we set a lot of "spy" and photo missions. Not combat of course.

[Hylander_1314]

Or be given a "new crew" shake down mission, and all h**l breaks loose, and you are orderred into combat with a green crew, that you have the honor of turning into veterans "overnight".

The photo ops missions would also be cool, as you could be close to enemy waters when the orders come in over the radio to start hostillities against Japan and her co-horts.

[andycaccia]

In facts, I was wondering about startin our career as commander 6-9 months before the outbreak of WW2 between US and Japan. This could give commanders the possibility of enjoying a few patrol in a "cold war" like atmosphere. I mean, the US are not at war with Japan, but the political situation is getting worse and worse every day. Suddently, in the morning of a day "which will live in infamy" the war begins...
...all the rest is known history, but since we are changing the starting date, why not make things this way?

[Sailor Steve]

I think andycaccia has the best idea. If you put to sea on December 1, you would likely when the attack came be ordered to scout the area of Hawaii for the Japanese ships. You would probably not be ordered to go directly to enemy territory without first returning to Pearl for a complete update and preparation.

Of course I'm saying this blindly, without first researching what the actual captains' orders were at that point, so I could be wrong, but I'm thinking probably not.

[peabody]

Nice addition. A couple of things you may want to add. In Roster/Defside.cfg is shows US neutral until Dec 8. I don't know if it is used, but if it is, Japan won't attack on Dec 7. Second to make it more realistic, you could edit the Campaign.LOC file and add it to your MOD and take out the destroyed ships. Of course that will mean they will never be there.

The other is the Attack Pearl Harbor mission was never completed. The task force is there but you would need to change the "evolve from entry date" so they move before Dec 7th and arrive in Hawaii on Dec 7 and then add some Bombing flights with a few added ships at Pearl. Then you could be there when they attack and 'man the flak guns'. If those missions even get loaded, would have to check that out.
Peabody

[fred8615]

In reply to several of the comments:

I almost put a note in about how you shouldn't sink any Japanese ships until after the PH attack, but I didn't.

Truth is, in all the time I've been using pre PH starts, I don't remember ever coming across Japs until well after December 7th. Even using a Manila based boat, it's been a couple of days until they show up. Since the oppotunity has never presented itself, I don't know what would happen if you sank a Jap ship before the 7th.

As for patrol orders, my very first mission when testing this mod was an agent insertion in Japan. I looked at it this way: the military and the government pretty much knew war with Japan was inevitable. It was just a question of where and when it would start. So if you can, get your spies in place beforehand. You know, like the Japanese did do in Hawaii.

Any other patrols can be viewed as normal naval routine. I've never gotten a supply mission, so those must only be triggered after a certain date.

The reason I chose November 30th is because it puts you in your office on the 1st, with first patrol starting no earlier than the 2nd of December. Chances are, even in a Manila based boat, you'll be enroute to your assigned target on the 7th. After that, you play normally. I have tried sending status reports several times after the attack, and on the 8th, but have always been told to procede with my assigned mission.

[difool2]

It would be cool if one of the campaign mods would put in the Japanese Pearl Harbor attack force...

[trynnallen]

As for patrol orders, my very first mission when testing this mod was an agent insertion in Japan. I looked at it this way: the military and the government pretty much knew war with Japan was inevitable. It was just a question of where and when it would start. So if you can, get your spies in place beforehand. You know, like the Japanese did do in Hawaii.



Of course the US didn't have anything like the Kempi Tai either. Those poor guys. Talk about not being heard from ever again.

[fred8615]

I've uploaded an updated version. See the first post in this thread for details.

[peabody]

I was incorrect on the wrecks of the BBs, I forgot to check the dates and the wrecks are not there until Dec 7 at 0900.

Another thing to remeber if you want to put it is, the US fired the first shot at Pearl Harbor sinking a Midget Sub.

Peabody

[AVGWarhawk]

Very cool idea Fred. :up:

[fred8615]

I've done a massive update. See the first post for details.

[McHibbins]

Really really nicely done fred.....but I don´t want to miss one of the best mods ever (imho) : RSRDC

[fred8615]

Really really nicely done fred.....but I don´t want to miss one of the best mods ever (imho) : RSRDC
Well, if they had given me permission to modify their files, I would've done an RSRD version. But they wouldn't so... :cry:

[fred8615]

In the immortal words of Professor Farnsworth:

"Good news everybody!"

lurker_hlb3 has given me permission to create an RSRDC version!! Stock version is already done, so all I need to do now is the RFB and the TMO versions.

I'm going to pull the 3.0 version now. Since it's just some copy and paste now I should have the 3.1 uploaded sometime today.

A big thank you to lurker_hlb3 for letting me do this now.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice :yep::up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Cool deal. :up:

[fred8615]

3.1 uploaded!!

[etheberge]

Haha, I just found out about your massive update and since I'm about to start a new career with RFB+RSDC the timing couldn't be better!

Thanks Fred

[fred8615]

I've upload a patch for my Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Mod. See the first post for details.

Thanks to Scottb8411 for finding and reporting the problem, and for confirming my suggested fix worked.

[keltos01]

I'm gonna try it ! :up:

keltos

[Armistead]

GJ Fred.

With your RSRD version, how is the JP TF setup. Can it be attacked Dec 7 on. I assume the TF is in RSRD as I waited at the historical date for it to return through the Bungo. It did show up on Dec. 20, leaving Manila was easy to get there in time.

I assume this is Lurkers work, but haven't looked and don't know where or what date it spawns. Be cool to ambush it Dec 7.

[fred8615]

GJ Fred.

With your RSRD version, how is the JP TF setup. Can it be attacked Dec 7 on. I assume the TF is in RSRD as I waited at the historical date for it to return through the Bungo. It did show up on Dec. 20, leaving Manila was easy to get there in time.

I assume this is Lurkers work, but haven't looked and don't know where or what date it spawns. Be cool to ambush it Dec 7.
The PH attack TF is in the stock game too. It doesn't appear to be in the proper place at the right time, but it is there. In the few tests I ran I didn't actually come across the ships, but did encounter carrier aircraft. So the TF is there, just no airstrike.

As for ambushing it, there's some kind of bug in the time that doesn't show the Japanese as hostile until well after the PH attack, so I don't think you can attack them and get proper credit before then.

If you want to see the course of the TF, use the Mission Editor to open the Data\Campaigns\Campaign\PearlHarborAttack.mis file.

[Armistead]

Fred,

Do you think the TMO 1.9 version will work OK with TMO 2.....think it would be OK...

[fred8615]

Fred,

Do you think the TMO 1.9 version will work OK with TMO 2.....think it would be OK...
It should. I don't think there's any difference in what my mod affects from 1.9 to 2.0.

[fred8615]

I've added this to my Mediafire account. See the first post for the link.

[iowa101]

On the subject on the midget sub, i hope you know that You may have sunk one of them!
But the other sub got into the harbour, not many know this but they discovered it when a photo was analysed and they found a stray wake that had come from a submerged midget submarine.

They say that out of the 5 midget submarines that Japan built only 4 have been located and surveyed.

Maybe a small update could include hunting one if that is at all possible.
Would be a great thing for us to try as a Pre-Attack mission wouldn't you agree?

[fred8615]

On the subject on the midget sub, i hope you know that You may have sunk one of them!
But the other sub got into the harbour, not many know this but they discovered it when a photo was analysed and they found a stray wake that had come from a submerged midget submarine.

They say that out of the 5 midget submarines that Japan built only 4 have been located and surveyed.

Maybe a small update could include hunting one if that is at all possible.
Would be a great thing for us to try as a Pre-Attack mission wouldn't you agree?
The problem with doing that is the midget subs aren't modeled in the game, so there's nothing to hunt.

[iowa101]

good point but neither are nimitz class aircraft carriers but i'm working on that for a playable ship.

why cant we add a midget sub :06:

[peabody]

On the subject on the midget sub, i hope you know that You may have sunk one of them!
But the other sub got into the harbour, not many know this but they discovered it when a photo was analysed and they found a stray wake that had come from a submerged midget submarine.

They say that out of the 5 midget submarines that Japan built only 4 have been located and surveyed.

Maybe a small update could include hunting one if that is at all possible.
Would be a great thing for us to try as a Pre-Attack mission wouldn't you agree?

The US definately sank one outside the harbor with a shot into the base of the conning tower from a DD, they have located it.

As for the picture they analyzed inside the harbor near battleship row, in my opinion their testing was flawed, and I am not convinced that what they are "seeing" in the photo was a minisub. There are a lot that think it was, and just as many that think it was not. The flaw I feel is the recreation and photo comparison as "Proof".
I won't go into the details, but in my opinion, I am not convinced.

Peabody

[iowa101]

i'm just saying, it we add a few missions that lead up to the attack on pearl that it would be a good start.

yes the photo recreation was how they did the analysis, but you have to admit that there is a strong possibilty due to the fact that one was found after on a beach :salute:

Also does any think that adding a recreation of the battle for you to take part in would be good. that way you could either stay in harbour, or attack the main fleet.

[fred8615]

i'm just saying, it we add a few missions that lead up to the attack on pearl that it would be a good start.

yes the photo recreation was how they did the analysis, but you have to admit that there is a strong possibilty due to the fact that one was found after on a beach :salute:

Also does any think that adding a recreation of the battle for you to take part in would be good. that way you could either stay in harbour, or attack the main fleet.
The midgets didn't do any photo recon, they were strictly an attack force.

As noted in the readme for my mod, the air attack isn't added because it would slow the game down drastically, and you run the risk of being sunk at the very beginning your career.

As for engaging the Japanese carrier force, that is a possibility in one mission, and in another you can engage it as it returns to port in Japan.

[iowa101]

sounds good, also i'm going to look for any other pre - pearl attack patrol logs that could be used as missions.

i'll post a few links for you after

[peabody]

The midgets didn't do any photo recon, they were strictly an attack force.



Misunderstood the comment. It was not a photo recon mission.

There was a special on TV where they did a recreation using a photo that was taken by a IJN planes of BB row during the attack. Some believe there is a minisub showing in the photo. So they did a recreation of it in a lake (NOT Pearl harbor) and took photos of it and compared them.

From doing Photography since 1969, I feel there testing which was done using % for distances, their testing was flawed. But that is only my opinion. I am not saying there wasn't one in BB row, only that I am not convinced after seeing their test.

Peabody

[iowa101]

In the photo there is also a stray wake from a running torpedo that doesn't have any splash point indicating that a torpedo plane dropped it's fish.

This also add to what i believe to be a good possibility that there was in fact a sub in the harbour.
I'm not saying your wrong, i just feel like they did a good job making their case which has stood to hold a great deal of empathy on the attack of pearl harbour.

I'd also like you to read this segment:

Researchers such as Burl Burlingame now believe that the following happened:

Five mini-submarines carried piggyback-style by normal submarines approached Pearl Harbour to within a couple of miles of the harbour entrance.

All five mini-subs were released to approach their targets.

Mini-sub Number 1 was sunk by ‘USS Ward’ and did not fire either of its two torpedoes.

Mini-sub Number 2 got into Pearl Harbour and fired its two torpedoes. Both missed their targets, but Number 2 then sunk by two American warships.

Mini-sub Number 3 ran aground and did not fire either of its two torpedoes.

Mini-sub Number 4 was found in 1960 with both its torpedoes still on board. It now stands outside of the Japanese Naval Academy.

However, no one knew what happened to mini-sub Number 5.

I know it doesn't prove much but considering the Fifth is still missing then why not make a mission to hunt that one :06:

[fred8615]

I've updated the mod. See the first post for details.

[fred8615]

I found a couple of minor goofs, one of which ended up being a tweak I decided to do to all the missions. So, here's 4.1. :oops:

[TorpX]

I read the post, but I still don't see what was changed from v 3.x

[fred8615]

I read the post, but I still don't see what was changed from v 3.x

All missions include a new radio message, and the RSRDC versions include a second message to replace a very important one they removed from their messages.txt. The other change was adding additional objectives to some of the Pearl Harbor based missions.

I should've noted the new stuff instead of just incorporating it into the post and readme, but I thought anyone using the old version would note the differences.

[Anthony W.]

If I happened to be in port on Dec. 7, would I be allowed to man my AA guns and blast away at some japs?

[TopcatWA]

Nice mod, agree with a lot of the comments on this topic.
Thanks for the upload.:yeah:

[fred8615]

If I happened to be in port on Dec. 7, would I be allowed to man my AA guns and blast away at some japs?
No. The air attack itself is not in the game, although the Jap task force is. I didn't add it myself because I don't really know how to do airstrikes, yet, and because it would cause the game to lag even more than it does now when using Pearl as a base.

[Mikemike47]

I am using Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start for the very first time and am using Version 4.1. I am using the Stock and RFB Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start type mod. Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\Stock and RFB Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start\Data\Campaigns\Campaign folder\campaign.cfg file and am wondering if it is a mistake.

[Section 8]
;FileName=data/Campaigns/Campaign/41a_Jap_Convoys.mis

should it be
FileName=data/Campaigns/Campaign/41a_Jap_Convoys.mis without the ";" at the beginning?

The ";File....." occurs also in sections 9,14,15, 20.......etc.

Thanks for your hard work in making the SH4 more fun.
P.S. Including all your sound mods!!!!

[fred8615]

I am using Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start for the very first time and am using Version 4.1. I am using the Stock and RFB Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start type mod. Wolves of the Pacific\MODS\Stock and RFB Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start\Data\Campaigns\Campaign folder\campaign.cfg file and am wondering if it is a mistake.

[Section 8]
;FileName=data/Campaigns/Campaign/41a_Jap_Convoys.mis

should it be
FileName=data/Campaigns/Campaign/41a_Jap_Convoys.mis without the ";" at the beginning?

The ";File....." occurs also in sections 9,14,15, 20.......etc.

No, because it's that way in the unaltered stock version. It looks like those sections are for the U-boat campaign added in the 1.5 version, and that may be why those lines are commented out there.

[iowa101]

Never looked at this mod before so bare with me, i take it seeing as you start prior to the pearl harbor attack. When the actual attack happens, do you here about it??

say over the radio via emergency broadcast or something like that

[fred8615]

Never looked at this mod before so bare with me, i take it seeing as you start prior to the pearl harbor attack. When the actual attack happens, do you here about it??

say over the radio via emergency broadcast or something like that
Yes. In fact, that's why I created it. The stock game does include a text radio message about the attack, as well as a follow-up message, in both text and voice if you're listening to the game's Washington station. In my radio mods I've included as much news coverage as I could find for the different networks.

So even in an otherwise unmodded game, you do get some news about it.

[iowa101]

very good mate, seems like they leave that part out of most games lol :yeah:

[fred8615]

I've uploaded an updated version. See the first post in this thread for details.

[fred8615]

Had to update to 4.3 because I forgot to include the new Pre War Asiatic Patrols in the RSRDC - RFB and RSRDC - TMO versions. Sorry.

[Mad Mardigan]

Yes. In fact, that's why I created it. The stock game does include a text radio message about the attack, as well as a follow-up message, in both text and voice if you're listening to the game's Washington station. In my radio mods I've included as much news coverage as I could find for the different networks.

So even in an otherwise unmodded game, you do get some news about it.

Downloaded this mod & added it into my mix of RFB+RSRDC, and have started a patrol from PH, slated to do a 10 day patrol, south of Midway. Date when I saved to grab some rack time was 03/12/1941...

What sound file/s are tagged to do this broadcasting, to occur after the attack has happened.?

I ask, as I want to make sure that they are indeed, in the folder I have them added to, hence the RFB+RSRDC SH4.

Great mod, and like the idea of actually having the chance to go out before the attack happens... and everything goes to crap hitting the fan...

:Kaleun_Salute:

[fred8615]

What sound file/s are tagged to do this broadcasting, to occur after the attack has happened.?

I ask, as I want to make sure that they are indeed, in the folder I have them added to, hence the RFB+RSRDC SH4.

If you don't have any of my radio mods installed, then the only audio you'll hear is from the included Washington station at:

Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Sound\Radio\Washington\Events

And you have to be listening to the station in order to hear the audio files in Events. The text may also only display when you're listening to the station. It's been awhile, so I'm not sure.

[Mad Mardigan]

If you don't have any of my radio mods installed, then the only audio you'll hear is from the included Washington station at:

Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Sound\Radio\Washington\Events

And you have to be listening to the station in order to hear the audio files in Events. The text may also only display when you're listening to the station. It's been awhile, so I'm not sure.

Ok, copy of SH4 I have, is through Steam... not Ubi. That aside, to which radio/gramaphone items from your ''[REL] Radio Stations and Music Mods'', would I need to grab... keeping it strictly to mainly U.S. radio & gramaphone (aka record player, as we called it before it died out...) stuff.

I do know that some movie or movies.. has been a bit back so don't ask me to quote the exact one/s, but I do recall reference being made to ''Tokyo Rose'' & broadcasts from them being listened to by sailors, if not by the grunts in the army & marines, as well.

I'd also want to keep it in the time frame, of say as your pre PH career start mod does, of a 11/30-21/01 start time frame until the end of the war.

Any info you can provide to help me 'narrow down' the list would be
greatly appreciated...

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Mad Mardigan

:Kaleun_Salute:

[fred8615]

All of my stations (link in my sig below) cover from December 2nd, 1941, to August 16th, 1945. You can't download just one specific month or year, if that's what you're asking.

I do have pre-war stuff too, but it still plays within those dates, and is clearly labeled as such.

[Mad Mardigan]

All of my stations (link in my sig below) cover from December 2nd, 1941, to August 16th, 1945. You can't download just one specific month or year, if that's what you're asking.

I do have pre-war stuff too, but it still plays within those dates, and is clearly labeled as such.

Ok, guess I'll just have to see of d/l'ing it & look through it then.

With asking that, no.. wasn't asking of a month year specific d/l, was because after looking at the page you have up for it, that I saw all that with 1910/20/30 listings & just wanted to know if that was all separate d/l's or was it all part of 1 mega d/l of music... basically I was asking for more.. clarification on it.

Sorry if that caused a misunderstanding... :Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

[fred8615]

With asking that, no.. wasn't asking of a month year specific d/l, was because after looking at the page you have up for it, that I saw all that with 1910/20/30 listings & just wanted to know if that was all separate d/l's or was it all part of 1 mega d/l of music... basically I was asking for more.. clarification on it.


The '10s, '20s, and '30s music are separate downloads. The war years music is separated by year.