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RICH12ACE
05-15-08, 04:50 AM
hi all i like playing sh4 but why are we trying to make sh4 into sh3?? with all the mods:hmm: :hmm:

stabiz
05-15-08, 05:01 AM
Because lots of people would like SH3 in SH4`s engine, I guess. Me included.

danlisa
05-15-08, 05:19 AM
<Pulls up a seat and grabs a snack>

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/popcorn.gif

Rockin Robbins
05-15-08, 05:25 AM
Danlisa! Have some popcorn. I'd question the OP's premise, wouldn't you? Naw! Too much trouble and we're having fun.

Here. Have a cheap American beer. Colorado Koolaid.:()1:

ReallyDedPoet
05-15-08, 07:22 AM
Put it this way, there are a ton of great mods for the PTO ( Pacific )of SH4 and folks will continue to mod that side of the game. Because the U-Boat side SH4 is still relatively new naturally it is getting some more attention, and will continue to as eventually it that side of the game will be opened up to include the ATO ( Atlantic). But the PTO side of things is just to great a sim now, so don't expect it to take a back seat, lots of folks are and will continue to play it.

It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:


RDP

Uber Gruber
05-15-08, 07:42 AM
Mmmmm.....I think its because the Pacific Theatre is absolutely dull and the Atlantic Theatre absolutely exciting.......but thats just my oppinion, there are many others but this one is mine.

Pass the popcorn old chap, i've a feeling this humour is just about to go volatile:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

danlisa
05-15-08, 07:45 AM
......It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:......
Aha, the typical Subsim response.

Play both they're Grrrrrrreeaatt.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/tony-tiger_large.png

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 07:52 AM
......It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:......
Aha, the typical Subsim response.

Play both they're Grrrrrrreeaatt.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/tony-tiger_large.png


What would you like RDP to say?

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 07:54 AM
Mmmmm.....I think its because the Pacific Theatre is absolutely dull and the Atlantic Theatre absolutely exciting.......but thats just my oppinion, there are many others but this one is mine.

Pass the popcorn old chap, i've a feeling this humour is just about to go volatile:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Why volatile? Honest answer. Can't fault anyone for that.

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 08:02 AM
hi all i like playing sh4 but why are we trying to make sh4 into sh3?? with all the mods:hmm: :hmm:
A few reasons:

1. Some just love the Atlantic and Uboats. As a result with a new graphics engine in SH4, they would like to sail the Atlantic with this graphics engine. I can't say I blame the really. SH3 graphics are good, IMO SH4 graphics are better.

2. For some modders, this is all they like to do. It is a challenge and something that fulfills their desire to be creative by modding the games. SH4 is a new pallet for them to paint the Atlantic again. Some are painting the Pacific. Some are painting both. Just as long as our great modders keep painting.....life is good.

3. From what I'm told, the SH4 files are much more moddable then SH3 so perhaps the world is the modders oyster now and getting new things in the game for the Atlantic theater is possible. Things that SH3 was not capable of handling.


4. Everyone has their poison!!!!!

5. One day when the Atlantic is modded to all it can be in SH4, I will certainly play the Atlantic again.

Hylander_1314
05-15-08, 08:23 AM
Here. Have a cheap American beer. Colorado Koolaid.:()1:


Yep, Everclear 180 with lime Koolaide! Yeeeeee-hawwwwwww!!!!

That stuff will take car paint off!

Alex
05-15-08, 10:02 AM
......It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:......
Aha, the typical Subsim response.

Play both they're Grrrrrrreeaatt.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/tony-tiger_large.png

What would you like RDP to say?
Dan just means that being a member of the SubSim staff, RDP is not allowed to say the truth (which theatre of operations he prefers) in order to keep things quiet on here. It's unfair, in my humble opinion... Even you moderators should be allowed to express their feelings publicly, whatever theatre of operations you prefer. :-?

ReallyDedPoet
05-15-08, 10:57 AM
......It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:......
Aha, the typical Subsim response.

Play both they're Grrrrrrreeaatt.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/tony-tiger_large.png

Maybe typical in your mind, but it's honestly how I feel, so there is a difference. I have 2.1 installed, Trigger Maru and soon RFB, and I am sure when the ATO is incorporated into SH4 I will get back to playing the U-Boats.

I thought ( and still hope ) that SUBSIM was getting past stuff like this, pitting one game against the other, blah, blah, blah.... ( that is usually the direction these threads take ). If folks want the drama, there have been plently of posts-threads ( myself included ) already done on the subject.


RDP

Jimbuna
05-15-08, 11:07 AM
Because lots of people would like SH3 in SH4`s engine, I guess. Me included.

Good point.....let's hope the usual influx of paranoia doesn't rise to the surface and inhibit a state of peaceful coexistence. :hmm:

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 11:10 AM
......It's a great time to be into the series, there seems to be something for everybody :yep:......
Aha, the typical Subsim response.

Play both they're Grrrrrrreeaatt.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/tony-tiger_large.png

What would you like RDP to say?
Dan just means that being a member of the SubSim staff, RDP is not allowed to say the truth (which theatre of operations he prefers) in order to keep things quiet on here. It's unfair, in my humble opinion... Even you moderators should be allowed to express their feelings publicly, whatever theatre of operations you prefer. :-?



I'm allowed to express anything I like just as you. Making cheery posts does not increase my pay. Personally, the Atlantic is boring at the moment. The Pacific is bright, shiny and new. Lots of fun and I'm growing with the game and the mods being created. I'm sure one day I will tire of the Pacific. When that happens, I'm sure there will be an all encompassing mod for it and I will play it....

RPD...did you sign that "gag order" Neal gave you or did you consult your lawyer first. You never sign contracts that state you must be the cheeriest mofo on the forum.....

ReallyDedPoet
05-15-08, 11:51 AM
RPD...did you sign that "gag order" Neal gave you or did you consult your lawyer first. You never sign contracts that state you must be the cheeriest mofo on the forum.....
reallypoetded ^^^ :roll::lol::lol: As far as being cheery, not sure about that one :hmm:..... yeah I guess most of the time :D <-------- I need to go back in my posts and check my smiley count :doh:

You know what they say though " kill em' with kindness " :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


RDP

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 12:07 PM
We have decided to change it to RCP...Really Cheery Person. Maybe TTWTWTH...Tell Them What They Want To Hear.

Dowly
05-15-08, 12:26 PM
@OP

To each to his own, I'd guess. Why play PTO when you can mod the theater you are interested about to the SHIV?

On a personal note; why these threads keep popping up anyways? Nobody forces one to use an Atlantic mod and maybe some of the modders making Atlantic things to SHIV wouldnt even be interested to mod the fleetboat side of the game.

I have been interested on the axis side of the WWII for a loooong time, be it shooters, flightsims or subsims. If someone offers to make an Atlantic campaign to SHIV, I certainly wont be saying "no, thanks".

Digital_Trucker
05-15-08, 12:41 PM
Not that it matters for squat, but I'd certainly much rather hear (read) a cheery RDP post than many of the decidedly more "sour" ones in this thread. Just an opinion and it's mine (and I believe quite a few others, although I've been known to be wrong about things before).

Accusing someone of "toeing the corporate line" because you don't agree with what they say is a decidedly childish approach to the subject. Unfortunately, there's a lot of that going around lately.

HunterICX
05-15-08, 02:56 PM
For me its not the game, nor the Allies or Axis but the whole theater of War itself

My main interest is the European Theather, whether it be Flightsims, Naval Sims, Subsims or RTS games.

I aint going to say the PTO is boring, damn its was hell on earth around there, I have watched docs about the PTO war and I cant imagine a worse place to be back then. but in General I have little interest in the PTO but that doesnt mean I completly ignore it, Perhaps one day I will expand my interest to that theather but mainly now I still have things to discover in the European War

As a young kid I walked on the beaches of Normandy, I've seen the cliffs of Omaha (I was stunned that mankind had such will to climb their way up to meet the Germans head on) I've been inside the Germans Bunkers, I still could smell the age of war in them.

to sum it up,
I grew up with the Normandy invasion and the road till Berlin.
I've expended my interest till Stalingrad in the East, and the victory of the British forces in the south (north Afrika campaign).

HunterICX

ReallyDedPoet
05-15-08, 02:58 PM
Still not to struck on cheery DT :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:, I would rather constructive or something similar.

Bottom line it is a game and as mentioned, I am a more than a little tired of the ATO vs. PTO thing. It's all a little childish and needs to stop.


RDP

HunterICX
05-15-08, 03:10 PM
Still not to struck on cheery DT :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:, I would rather constructive or something similar.

Bottom line it is a game and as mentioned, I am a more than a little tired of the ATO vs. PTO thing. It's all a little childish and needs to stop.


RDP

The main problem of these threads are, that they keep popping up.

they put 2 theathers against eachother.
its not the Theather thats the problem, but people feel like stabbing the other Theaters by saying the other is Boring, or saying that their theater is the best theater which pisses of the other side.
its like they are turning ATO and PTO into a bloody Religion :o
comon, I dont want any Jihads been called out to eachother

Like this:
(warning: very exaggerated version)

PTO Fanboy: UBOATS ARE BORING!
ATO Fanboy: OW YEAH! WELL I THINK THE FLEET BOATS STINK!
RDP : :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::stare: lock!

Main reason why people choose their Theater is their Interest,
and nobody is able to change that for someone Else.
like said in my previous posts, thats my interest.
and I respect others interest, you will see that both theaters have things in comon and perhaps you can learn something from eachothers but thats up to you to decide if your interested in it.

HunterICX

THE_MASK
05-15-08, 03:40 PM
I played SH3 for years . I bought SH4 and love the PTO . I bought the uboat expansion and tried the ATO and just couldnt get into it again . Waiting for GWX . Would like to play PTO and ATO when bored of PTO .

ReallyDedPoet
05-15-08, 04:05 PM
Like this:
(warning: very exaggerated version)

PTO Fanboy: UBOATS ARE BORING!
ATO Fanboy: OW YEAH! WELL I THINK THE FLEET BOATS STINK!
RDP : :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::stare: lock!


HunterICX

[ RDP cues Spiderman Theme ]

RDP, RDP, friendly Moderator RDP, close a thread we're not sure, just depends what it's for, hey there, there goes RDP :lol::lol:

Ok I'll stop now :yep:


RDP

Digital_Trucker
05-15-08, 05:02 PM
Still not to struck on cheery DT :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:, I would rather constructive or something similar.

Bottom line it is a game and as mentioned, I am a more than a little tired of the ATO vs. PTO thing. It's all a little childish and needs to stop.


RDP

:lol: Did I type cheery? I could have sworn I typed constructive:p Bad, bad fingers. Go straight to your room without desert:rotfl:

AVGWarhawk
05-15-08, 05:19 PM
Like this:
(warning: very exaggerated version)

PTO Fanboy: UBOATS ARE BORING!
ATO Fanboy: OW YEAH! WELL I THINK THE FLEET BOATS STINK!
RDP : :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::stare: lock!


HunterICX

[ RDP cues Spiderman Theme ]

RDP, RDP, friendly Moderator RDP, close a thread we're not sure, just depends what it's for, hey there, there goes RDP :lol::lol:

Ok I'll stop now :yep:


RDP

Hey, that was good:up:

sh3rules
05-15-08, 06:37 PM
The more mods the merrier.

Jimbuna
05-16-08, 03:47 AM
It's quiet, the bell must have gone and everyone is back in class :hmm:

Mush Martin
05-16-08, 04:15 AM
It's quiet, the bell must have gone and everyone is back in class :hmm:

No I think they were just all afraid that RDP would put on his sons
pajamas and start singing again.:|\\

Mush Martin
05-16-08, 04:21 AM
Ok I'll stop now :yep:
RDP

I for one am grateful.....


So I dont Care What Ocean What Country or What decade
I dont even care if its earth. as long as we can model ship
killer trained suicide dolphins and never model such cruel things
as driftnets. being men of good conscience and all.:hmm:

AVGWarhawk
05-16-08, 06:15 AM
I like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

ReallyDedPoet
05-16-08, 08:59 AM
It's quiet, the bell must have gone and everyone is back in class :hmm:
No I think they were just all afraid that RDP would put on his sons
pajamas and start singing again.:|\\
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I'll give you that one.


RDP

ReallyDedPoet
05-16-08, 09:38 AM
Ok I'll stop now :yep:
RDP
I for one am grateful.....



Does that mean I can't share that I have been approached
by VH1's Storyteller Series to do " Hard to be Humble " The Mush Martin Years :lol:


RDP

Mush Martin
05-16-08, 10:47 AM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: the "What"?

http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_captkirk_preview.jpg

Rockin Robbins
05-16-08, 04:42 PM
Quote of the Year:

"SH4 in general, is badly in need of 3D modelers. Trouble is, the only ones I know of have all been gobbled up by Subsims equivalent to Electronic Arts."

Attributed to a proper twat!
What are Subsim.com's editorial policies?
The Radio Room forum is not the place for flaming, spewing, or otherwise mouthing off. We do not allow posts where people are called idiots, morons, etc.
These "rules" must have been recently suspended and insults are just peachy? Or are some allowed to violate them by virtue of favored affiliation and others not?

stabiz
05-16-08, 08:12 PM
Yes. (Well, you asked:))

IMO, SH4 is in need of the GWX campaign, nothing more.

Onkel Neal
05-18-08, 09:14 AM
People who cannot get along with others here and continue to cause problems will have their accounts deleted, without warning in this case. We are getting tired of baby sitting these little spats. People, I know this is the internet, but act like adults, please.