[REL] correct interior diving angles

[vickers03]

hi, this corrects the interior inclination behaviour
when diving. no more mixed up angles
when looking left/right for command room and
radio room for all boats.

all credits should go out to Master Anvart,
because he had the original idea and made
an example mod for the type2 a year ago
but it went unoticed.
JSGME ready.

stock 1.4b, LSH3.0
http://files.filefront.com/intdivLSH317z/;10308777;/fileinfo.html

GWX 2.1
http://files.filefront.com/intdivGWX217z/;10308207;/fileinfo.html

http://w15.easy-share.com/1700439009.html

[Reece]

Wow this is a bug that always annoyed me, thanks for the fix!:up:
GWX 2.1
coming soon, if i get the permission!:lol:
That's the one I want!!:yep:

[U-Schultz]

I was beginning to lose hope that problem would ever be fixed.
Waiting eagerly for the 2.1 version!

[Klaus_Doldinger]

Many thanks!:up:

Waiting for GWX version!!

[Alyebard]

Amazing!, well done !:up:

[irish1958]

Looks Great, but need the GWX2.1 version.

[danlisa]

GWX 2.1
coming soon, if i get the permission!:lol:

I want this!

Who did you ask? :hmm:

...and what's taking so long.......:damn:

:lol:

[Myxale]

I just thought about it the other day! Amazing how this sim still gets the right fixes still commin'! Even after years!

Woohooo! Fluuuten!:rock:

[supposedtobeworking]

why do you have to ask permission? can't you just add a disclaimer stating that it is not officially supported by the GW team?

[vickers03]

Who did you ask? :hmm:

i tried to pm kpt. lehmann, but his box is full:lol:
if any gwx-dev is reading this:

no game relevant data was edited
in these files, i just changed some cam parameters.

changed files..
- NSS_UboatX_CR.sim
- NSS_UboatX_RR.dat
- NSS_UboatX_RR.sim

for all boats.

why do you have to ask permission? can't you just add a disclaimer stating that it is not officially supported by the GW team?

to be honest, i don't know. the subsim modding etiquette says it really clear to ask for permission
if altered files of another mod are included.

besides, it takes me a whole night to upload stuff like
this on my lame internet.:down:

[coronas]

Amazing! :rock:
Please, don't forget NYGM 2.6b version.

[vickers03]

Amazing! :rock:
Please, don't forget NYGM 2.6b version.

could you or someone who is using NYGM 2.6b provide me with the following files, as i'm not familiar with this mod:

found in data/interior/NSS_UboatX

NSS_UboatX_CR.sim
NSS_UboatX_RR.dat
NSS_UboatX_RR.sim

(X stands for boat type):yep:

[danlisa]

Who did you ask? :hmm:

i tried to pm kpt. lehmann, but his box is full:lol:
if any gwx-dev is reading this:

no game relevant data was edited
in these files, i just changed some cam parameters......

LOL. I know KL is mega busy at the moment with real life stuff, so in the absense of permission from another dev teamer, wait until the weekend and hopefully KL will be more available.:up:

[coronas]

Amazing! :rock:
Please, don't forget NYGM 2.6b version.

could you or someone who is using NYGM 2.6b provide me with the following files, as i'm not familiar with this mod:

found in data/interior/NSS_UboatX

NSS_UboatX_CR.sim
NSS_UboatX_RR.dat
NSS_UboatX_RR.sim

(X stands for boat type):yep:

A new version of NYGM is coming. Can you ask to Stiebler via PM?.
Thanks in advance.

[Mr.Fleck]

Good work! :up:

Hope I see your GWX version soon. Can't imagine the GWX team would have something against your modification, but very kind from you to ask for permission.

Good luck!
Mr. Fleck

[ichso]

I didn't get the time to test it yet, but this has been an annoyance since someone pointed out the problem. So great that its finally fixed :up:

[Venatore]

GWX 2.1coming soon, if i get the permission!:lol:

Looking forward to the mod.

[SquareSteelBar]

Nice one, vickers :up:

Is there another DL link? Can't dl from this site...


Cheers,
SquareSteelBar

[Rolf Eschke]

Great !
Thank You !
Regards,
Rolf
:up: :up: :up:

[TarJak]

This will finally fix one of my pet peeves ingame! Hope the GWX2.1 version can be made ready for release ASAP.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Vickers03, you have PM sir.:arrgh!:

[Delareon]

please tell us you get the permission and give us a GWX Release ;)

[Letum]

I wonder if the GWX team

[robbierob2005]

Does this mean the Food that is hanging on the ceiling is now hanging in the correct angle?

[HW3]

I see by his first post that he found bugs in his origional release and is fixing them, so it might take a few days to get it squared away.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

I wonder if the GWX team
:rotfl:

Excelent one! :up:

[johan_d]

Did UBI wrote to the German Government?

[Kron161]

Agreed, this "modding etiquette" rules is something initially designed to give modders credit for their job, but it has developed in a way that it becomes a show stopper for further free & independent game developements. (yes, i know they will claim they stop nothing and that modders are still independent, but we all know what I mean)
:down:
If anyone makes a mod of a mod he is in his right to share his work (after mentioning due credit to the original modder) and the community has the right to download it at their own risk.

This issue of having to submit a permission request is sort of ... well.... let's keep it civilized!.

I sincerely think the GWX crew, despite deserving everybody's gratitude for what they have done for the game, should consider also how they handle this issue.

[Reece]

I know for a fact that Vickers has run into some problems that he is working on, so we just have to be patient!:yep:

[Sailor Steve]

Does this mean the Food that is hanging on the ceiling is now hanging in the correct angle?
The food has always hung at the correct angle. I've pointed that out every time someone has mentioned the port/starboard dive angle problem. And that's many times over the last three years.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

I'm not sure if I'm following... what is this incorrect interior diving angle? Can someone post screenshots for comparison?

[Madox58]

The food uses a totally different controller.
That's why it moves correctly.
As that controller 'sees' the model and it's real time movement,
the food (or any object setup with it) will follow the proper swing path.

[Sailor Steve]

I'm not sure if I'm following... what is this incorrect interior diving angle? Can someone post screenshots for comparison?
Any time you dive your boat; turn to the left and look at your navigator - bow is pointing down. Now turn to the right and look at your planesmen - bow is pointing up. Don't tell my you never noticed?

Or do I have it backward? Anyway, it is a problem, and apparently it's been fixed.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

I'm not sure if I'm following... what is this incorrect interior diving angle? Can someone post screenshots for comparison?
Any time you dive your boat; turn to the left and look at your navigator - bow is pointing down. Now turn to the right and look at your planesmen - bow is pointing up. Don't tell my you never noticed?

Or do I have it backward? Anyway, it is a problem, and apparently it's been fixed.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Good heavens... I swear I've never noticed it!

I'm almost never at the command room, I'm always looking at the map or the periscope... or in the bridge...:lol:

[Sailor Steve]

Now I have to confess: I didn't notice it until someone pointed it out an another thread. But that was three years ago, so I sort of...forgot...that I didn't notice it on my own.:oops: :rotfl:

[Maraz]

My solution for this bug has always been: eating all sausages and food !!! :D

Anyway, a welcome fix.

Maraz

[mayandlex]

I thinl I am going blind! cant find the download link for this.
mayandlex

[irish1958]

I thinl I am going blind! cant find the download link for this.
mayandlex

:nope::nope::nope: Naughty, naughty, naughty; your mother told you that would happen to you if you didn't stop. :88):88):88)

[HW3]

I thinl I am going blind! cant find the download link for this.
mayandlex


That is because it was pulled after some bugs came to light. As soon as the bugs are fixed, it will be posted again.

[vickers03]

hi, gwx 2.1 version is up!!

[danlisa]

hi, gwx 2.1 version is up!!

Nice one.:up:

[Alex]

I thinl I am going blind! cant find the download link for this.
mayandlex
:nope::nope::nope: Naughty, naughty, naughty; your mother told you that would happen to you if you didn't stop. :88):88):88)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: !
Thanks for the laugh, Irish ! :p :D

[Reece]

Gee that download site is a load of crap!:x Could someone upload it to another site please.:yep:

[jmr]

Holy crap this is awesome! All I need now is a full motion platform to round out the experience.

[Letum]

:o Wow!

Everyone needs to try this!
It is incredible! You really feel you are more in the boat.

The depth charge shakes still seam to be random and unconnected to the boat, but that
isn't a big problem.

[gimpy117]

any chance we can adapt it for sh4???

[rik007]

This mod is great! Outstanding job. Never missed it before but now convinced I cann't go without!

[rik007]

Gee that download site is a load of crap!:x Could someone upload it to another site please.:yep:

Fully agree. You have to wait and watch the pictures... until you get you code. Do you have the mod or are you waiting frustated??

[The Bad Wolf]

Tried to download and got message from security that the site was trying to obtain personal information.

[Ivan Putski]

After 20 mins, I finally got fed up waiting.

[johan_d]

please post a working version somewhere else.. all i got are crc errors..
:o

[ichso]

It's working well for me, at least the extracting of the archive.

Looking forward to testing it, this is a great addition to any mod compilation :up:

@ johan_d: Have you tried to redownload it ?

[Samwolf]

please post a working version somewhere else.. all i got are crc errors..
:o

Same here:cry:

[Murr44]

Is it possible to get this file from some other site? The :damn: free download timer just keeps going & going and nothing happens.:down:

[Samwolf]

Downloaded again and I I got was another corrupted file.:cry:

Any chance for putting this on FF or somewhere else?

[Letum]

I am uploading, but it will take some time. A few hours. Slow connection.

[Samwolf]

I am uploading, but it will take some time. A few hours. Slow connection.

Thanks.:up:

[Murr44]

I am uploading, but it will take some time. A few hours. Slow connection.

Thanks.:) Do you have a FF page? No offense is meant by this; I appreciate the effort people put in to these mods but I wish they wouldn't use sites like that one. They're loaded with spyware & malware crap (ie. Adult Friend Finder cookies, etc.).

[vickers03]

sry for the bad link but i had the fastest upload
on this one. i'm uploading to filefront right now,
should be up in ~1h..

[Murr44]

sry for the bad link but i had the fastest upload
on this one. i'm uploading to filefront right now,
should be up in ~1h..

Thanks a lot.:up: Can you include a link to your FF page?

[Letum]

FF LINK :up:
(http://files.filefront.com/intdivGWX217z/;10307964;/fileinfo.html)

[Pascal]

Yes, fantastic

PS: what is the program to open your archive ? Thank you

[Samwolf]

Yes, fantastic

PS: what is the program to open your archive ? Thank you

7zip or winrar works.

[Letum]

Yes, fantastic

PS: what is the program to open your archive ? Thank you
WinRar will do it.

[Samwolf]

Got the FF version. Looks real good vickers03, great job.:up:

[dannygjk]

Nothing wrong...the right people get shot.[/I'm pretty sure that was said by Dirty Harry, but I forgot which Dirty Harry movie. :)quote]

[Topo65]

Many Thanks, Vickers03!!! Look Incredible! :up:

[Reece]

Thanks Letum, & thank you very much for the mod Vickers!:up:

[Ivan Putski]

That was way better, fantastic mod Vickers003, thank you. Puts:up:

[flakmonkey]

I hate to be the one negative voice here but this mod really doesnt work:down: :down:

If anything it seems to make the problem worse (gwx 2.1 version).

The shots below were taken after a crash dive with the boat perfectly level at 70m, as you can see, all is not well.

During the dive everything looked roughly correct but the camera stayed like this even after the dive had levelled off.
I re-installed and re-tested the mod but got the same problems repeatedly.

+ only tested with a VIIc.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa186/tris1066/error1.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa186/tris1066/error2.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa186/tris1066/error3.jpg

[Reece]

Oh Poo!:doh:

[Letum]

Strange...I don't get that at all...

[mikaelanderlund]

Fantastic mod Vickers003, thank you:rock: .

Mikael

[Samwolf]

So far in the tests I've done I eventually level off. I'm using a VIIb.

[John_Doe_16]

Hi, first let me introduce myself: Although this is my first post here, I've read the great subsim-boards since the days when Silent Hunter 2 was announced, and played every instalment of the SH series since release... (of course, with many great mods from subsim-members enhancing them greatly :-) And since this problem with the diving angles bothered me since SH3's release, I'm very, very glad you released your fix for it! Great job!

But concerning the bug in the screenshots:

The bug in the screenshot occurs, once you click on the CE, and continues even when you go back to the "normal" view. Once you clicked on him, you get all wrong angles in the control room, and, as I've tested it quite a bit, I'm quite sure the bug could be connected with the camera position when you click on him... (the one when the camera moves a bit closer to him, and he turns around towards the player)...Maybe this position has a few values wrongly set, and causes the whole camera-angles to become "wrong" until you restart?

Other than that, I must say, great work! :up:

(only one minor thing, in my opinion the angles are a bit exagerrated, as when I surfaced, the camera moved so far forward that I clipped through the forward periscope in the type VII control room... Maybe this could be toned down a bit, since the angles overall seem a bit too steep...)

[dcb]

In my GWX 2.1 install, it works like a charm. No weird effects and it is a big immersion factor. Now it really feels like diving and rising. Thanks alot Vickers.:rock:

[Rhodes]

Installed and experimented. All is well and fine. Right angle! :up: :up: :up: :rock: :rock: :rock: :cool:

[vickers03]

I hate to be the one negative voice here but this mod really doesnt work:down: :down:

If anything it seems to make the problem worse (gwx 2.1 version).

The shots below were taken after a crash dive with the boat perfectly level at 70m, as you can see, all is not well.

During the dive everything looked roughly correct but the camera stayed like this even after the dive had levelled off.
I re-installed and re-tested the mod but got the same problems repeatedly.

+ only tested with a VIIc.


i get this too on occasion mainly when switching between radio and command room.
maybe there's a connection between a modded cameras.dat, i personally don't use the one delivered
with gwx.

since the problem also occurs in Anvart's original work
(type2 boat) i can't deliver a solution right now.

however, switching rooms in 3d mode and not
using the shortcuts seems to work better.

[John_Doe_16]

Hi,

but what about the fact I posted earlier, how this bug is reproducable?

Once you click on the CE, the camera gets messed up, and stays that way until you restart, so I think maybe it has to do with the camera-angle when zoomed-in on him...

(this bug is reproducable)

Also, maybe the angles are a bit too steep, as, when I surfaced, the camera clipped through the forward periscope in the type VII...

Please continue your great work! :up:

[flakmonkey]

The bug may have occured for me since i was changing cameras from fore/aft control room and into the RR to test the mod, ive found that if i stay in one spot and dont jump around the boat like a crazy person, everything works perfectly, so i guess it was me that failed and not the mod:oops:

++ Oddly i dont get any problems when clicking on the cheif as was mentioned by another poster.

[Murr44]

It seems to work fine in the VIIC. I tried it out in a new career & the only (slightly odd) thing that I noticed is that when in a dive, if I clicked on the CE, I physically "crashed through" the observation periscope! :eek: Otherwise everything looked great. The control room levelled off when we reached the depth that I'd ordered. It's a great mod.:up: I can live with the oddity that I mentioned above. Does the mod also affect the radio room/sonar shack/captain's cabin or was I just imagining things (I hope not as I'm only 44 & I'm not ready for senile dementia just yet.:eek: :D ).

[Reece]

I hope not as I'm only 44 & I'm not ready for senile dementia just yet.:eek: :D
Thanks, I'm 55, I really needed to hear that!:yep: Now where did I leave my glasses, oh yeh, I'm wearing them!:doh::roll:

[Ivan Putski]

It works fine here too, I`m using GWX 2.1, no problems in any of my boats. Puts

[jaxa]

Works very good - fantastic job :up:

[Konovalov]

So far so good for me. I'm loving it. More immersion goodness in SHIII thanks to another little nifty mod. :up:

[silversurfer]

yep.... its working fime for me. What an awesome mod

[Myxale]

Same here! Tested it earlier today, and it works cool!:up:

Cheers mate!

[vickers03]

but what about the fact I posted earlier, how this bug is reproducable?

Once you click on the CE, the camera gets messed up, and stays that way until you restart, so I think maybe it has to do with the camera-angle when zoomed-in on him...

(this bug is reproducable)

Also, maybe the angles are a bit too steep, as, when I surfaced, the camera clipped through the forward periscope in the type VII...


thanks for your observation, please let me know what
version you are using and if you have a modded cameras.dat:hmm:
as for the angles, they should represent the real diving angle as seen in exterior view.

Does the mod also affect the radio room/sonar shack/captain's cabin or was I just imagining things

the mod should affect the radioroom, but only when
you are standing.

[Anvart]

...
all credits should go out to Master Anvart,
because he had the original idea and made
an example mod for the type2 a year ago
...

:rotfl:
Sorry.
The small note:
I have made AnvartsType2_CR.7z mod on October, 4th 2006.
In readme:
"...
This mod is for SH3 stock game ver. 1.4b.
...
This mod fix some mistakes in Type 2 Command Room interior (+ move Obs/Periscope).
This mod simulates an inclination (or roll for interior) of a submarine at diving and surfacing for cameras:
RadioSonarRoom, HydrophoneView, RadioView, CapitainsbedView, InteriorForeView,
InteriorAftView, NavigatorView, WeaponOffView and HelsmanView.
..."

This silution has been tested in August 2006.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/237/okyn8.gif

P.S. AnvartsType2_CR.7z file has been removed many times from my FileFront page ... by FileFront ...

[vickers03]

Sorry.
The small note:
I have made AnvartsType2_CR.7z mod on October, 4th 2006.


ok ok, it's two years now:doh:
so look what i've done to your work, i screwed up!:lol:
just kidding
i didn't include your command room, just the .sim file
and made the adjustments for all other boats.
it seems that sometimes the angles get wrong again
and stays that way.
what again was the solution for it?:D

[Anvart]

...
it seems that sometimes the angles get wrong again
and stays that way.
...

;)
It's your problem ...

[Reece]

;)
It's your problem ...
That's what I like about Anvart, he gets right to the point!:rotfl:

[Anvart]

...
so look what i've done to your work, i screwed up!:lol:
just kidding ...

I am disappointed...
I always thought, that Germans are pedantic, punctual and exact ... Alas ... :hmm:

;)
It's your problem ...
That's what I like about Anvart, he gets right to the point!:rotfl:
It's difficult to me to understand all nuances of your English ... and i have not understood your humour ... :rotfl:
But I had in view of that that...
When Vickers03 asked me about my mod (AnvartsType2_CR.7z) i have told to him the main (key) idea of mod ...
Technical details of mod realization ... it's other question (not main) ...
These details can be made by any having experience (knowledge) modder ...
In one case it is simple copying the controller from my mod with a corresponding binding to the camera ...
In other case it is necessary to reorient the camera and to adjust it ...
In the third case (more complex) it is required to change cameras-controllers hierarchy too ...
Therefore if Vickers03 has decided to repeat this solution and has problem ... it's his problem ... ;)

P.S.
I do not describe details of work since i think that my English difficultly to understand correctly too ...
P.P.S.
For those who does not know ...
In my mod i did not use cameras.dat file! I used NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat and NSS_Uboat2_CR.sim files only ... !!!

[Reece]

That's ok Anvart, I just love to get out the large spoon & give things a good stir!:yep:
Good to hear from you, it's been awhile, are you still actually playing SH3?:D

[Anvart]

That's ok Anvart, I just love to get out the large spoon & give things a good stir!:yep:
Good to hear from you, it's been awhile, are you still actually playing SH3?:D
No ...
SH3 and (i think) SH4 ... all this in the past ...

[Reece]

No ... :eek:
There has hardly been a day that I haven't played it at least once since it's release, I wonder if that's why people say to me ... Get a life!:lol:
Sorry Vickers, getting off topic a bit, btw, I don't find any problems with this mod & I'm using the camera.dat from the Depthcharge shake mod, clicking on CE seems to have little effect but this is only while diving to PS depth, haven't tried a crash dive yet!:up:

[vickers03]

I am disappointed...
I always thought, that Germans are pedantic, punctual and exact ... Alas ...

lol yea at least when it's all about their cars..


In other case it is necessary to reorient the camera and to adjust it ...

i did reorient the camera for the radioroom, the control room
looked fine. oh well, at least at this point i thought i knew what i was doing


In the third case (more complex) it is required to change cameras-controllers hierarchy too ...

theoretically i know what you mean..no really..

No ...
SH3 and (i think) SH4 ... all this in the past ...

how can you say that, with all these great mods
coming out?

PS
to not describe details of work since i think that my English difficultly to understand correctly too ...


Anyways, thanks for your hints this gives me something
to think about for the next weeks..

[Anvart]

Goodluck! :D

No ... :eek:
There has hardly been a day that I haven't played it at least once since it's release, I wonder if that's why people say to me ... Get a life!:lol:
Sorry Vickers, getting off topic a bit, btw, I don't find any problems with this mod & I'm using the camera.dat from the Depthcharge shake mod, clicking on CE seems to have little effect but this is only while diving to PS depth, haven't tried a crash dive yet!:up:
I agree ...
SH3 for ever the best ...

[Uber Gruber]

I do like this mod, really enhances the "feel" of being in a sub (not that i've been in one, but I have an active imagination so i hope that will do).

Anyway, i noticed the saussages and stuff hanging from the pipe were rocking in the opposite direction than they should when the boat rocked. I.e. they seemed to be doing the opposite of what gravity would reccomend they do :-?

Hope this helps....

[John_Doe_16]

but what about the fact I posted earlier, how this bug is reproducable?

Once you click on the CE, the camera gets messed up, and stays that way until you restart, so I think maybe it has to do with the camera-angle when zoomed-in on him...

(this bug is reproducable)

Also, maybe the angles are a bit too steep, as, when I surfaced, the camera clipped through the forward periscope in the type VII...

thanks for your observation, please let me know what
version you are using and if you have a modded cameras.dat:hmm:
as for the angles, they should represent the real diving angle as seen in exterior view.


Hi,

thanks for trying to fix this bug :up:

I am using a GWX 2.1- Installation, and have no mods, that change the camera.dat...

I can tell you exactly which mods I am using, in the order they appear in JSGME:

"GWX - Open Hatch Mod"
"Water_Stream_for_Uboats_V4"
"interior diving angles"
"interior diving angles (openhatch)"
"GWX_ships_Buoyance&draught_mod"
"LifeBoat&Debris_v3B"

(the latter two mods are connected, and where installed after I reported the bug).
I took great care to download your mod in the GWX-Version, since I am using GWX 2.1; and I have continued to try clicking on the CE; in the type seven, the bug is totally reproducable on my system, but, as I had not much time, I haven't been able to test the other submarines as well...

I hope I could help, so that you can fix this error... (But I'm actually surprised no one experiences it as well? I have a fresh GWX 2.1 - Installation only with the above mods?)

Thanks in advance :up:

[Myxale]

You don't need to enable both Interior diving angle mods!

Take one!

[vickers03]

You don't need to enable both Interior diving angle mods!

Take one!

please check the readme:yep:
you do need both for open hatch.

[Myxale]

Honestly mate, I had no idea.
I use just the one with the (open hatch) and it works!:doh:
Talk about crazy stuff!:hmm:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/Myxale/list.jpg

[Letum]

Without both parts of the mod enabled it will only work for the VII boats.

[Myxale]

Without both parts of the mod enabled it will only work for the VII boats.

That'll teach me!:damn:

Cheers Let!:doh:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Hi Vickers03,

Very cool mod for the most part, however I have found a real problem that I am sure can be fixed given the right attention.:up:

The radio room in the Type VII's (non-open-hatch regular version) and the Type IX's twists to an impossible angle when diving or ascending and remains contorted even after completion of the maneuver.

In the meantime, as a temporary solution, what I will do is just remove the radio room files from the mod... leaving only the control room bits functional. (Until testing this mod, I don't think I've ever been standing in the radio room anyway during an 'operational' dive. Will post a screenshot here as soon as I can hunt it down.

No file in my personal installation alters / overwrites the files you modded. It is indeed a problem with the interior diving angles mod. (Using nearly 98 percent 'official' GWX material otherwise in that installation.)

Also, cheers to Anvart for helping you get it fixed this far. :up: I think that as a result of difficult communications with him... we have collectively lost out on some good things that might have been done in days past.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Here you go Vickers03, as described above.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/KptLehmann/SH3Img28-5-2008_103729_171.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/KptLehmann/SH3Img28-5-2008_103733_156.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Keep the paddles for now mate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Madox58]

You know what is said about ASSUMEING anything don't you?
:hmm:

[ReallyDedPoet]

@ Letum and Kpt. Lehman.

C'mon on lads, play nice and keep things above bar here and get back on track in the spirit of the great mod that has been made here. My fingers are tired from editing some of your posts.

Modders-Users of Mods-All other members here at SUBSIM are all = here, nothing
more, nothing less.


RDP

[onelifecrisis]

vickers03, thanks for this mod :up: :up:

[Anvart]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/KptLehmann/SH3Img28-5-2008_103729_171.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/KptLehmann/SH3Img28-5-2008_103733_156.jpg
To Vickers03 -->
???
What is it?
I think, the tilt should be 10° (big Uboat) ... 15° (small Uboat) max ... for (example) crush dive ... ???
I see more 20° ... ???
... and look #93 P.P.S. ...

...
I think that as a result of difficult communications with him... we have collectively lost out on some good things that might have been done in days past.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/237/okyn8.gif

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Cheers Anvart.:up:

To all observers,

I think I should clarify my post regarding the tilt angle problem shown in the screenshots I posted.

When in the radio room, looking fore or aft, the contortion is lateral... not longitudinal. The longitudinal angle appears to be okay.

Unlike the correct function in the control room using this mod, the lateral contortion remains after the maneuver is complete... as if the boat were stuck or listing to one side.

[vickers03]

guilty:lol: i knew this was coming sooner or later,
but i had the expression that it doesn't
happen all the time:roll:

ok now for the technical part:

Anvart, i tried to rotate the whole radioroom
(in.dat file) to avoid this strange behaviour
but all i got was even more strange.

i think there may be some differences between
type2, 7, 9, 21 camera behaviour but i can't
figure out what it is. (maybe room position/rotation?)
i changed the room rotation, angles, camera position
to no avail.:hmm:

another problem is, i can't open your NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat with silent editor,
so i don't know if you changed some coordinates there.

[Cheapskate]

Well, Good luck in your attempts to find a solution to this problem - if there is a practical one!!

If it's any consolation to you, the problem doesn't seem to be caused by your mod. It happened to me the other day ,and I'm not even using it!

I was in the training navigation mission. Moved through to Radio Room using Station shortcut. As usual there was the wild camera swing from side to side. This normally settles after a couple of seconds. Only this time it didn't! I was stuck at 45 degree angle and when I sat down on Captain's bunk, it was like I was laying down.

The good bit is I managed to get out of it :smug:

The bad ( and embarrassing ) bit is that I don't remember exactly how:oops:

I THINK that I went to shift+F2 and then walked through the open hatch to Radio Room. When I left Shift+F2 by using a Station Shortcut, the lean had gone from the standard view.

This had never happened before, and I've not seen it since. I just put it down to one of SH3's little glitches.

Maybe just switching camera view will correct this intermittent problem with your mod without requiring you to rewrite any camera behaviours??

[Reece]

@ Cheapskate, are you using the Depthcharge shake or LRT mod, these alter the camera.dat file & has this same effect.:yep:

[Cheapskate]

No , matey, I'm not using either of those.

The only obvious camera alteration mods I've got are DD's Open Hatch and Sergbuto's Camera mod. BTW, this happened to me on a modded Stock 1.4b install.

The wild swinging when first changing station goes back to the OH mod as far as I remember. Although I never had a freeze until the other day.

Just changing the view camera seemed to sort this out.

Possibly this approach will work with the Diving Angle Mod. Don't have any plans to try this out though - I'm having more than enough trouble getting other things to work at the moment :damn:

Cheers!

Cheapskate

Oh, by the way, been meaning to ask you for ages, do you still have a copy of Flakmonkey's original Twisted Periscope Thingy ?? He pulled it before I could get it. I know you did a reissue ,and I've got those, but they break my Anvart RDF loop activation .

Sorry to go off topic but if you can come up with the original I'd be ever so grateful:D

[Reece]

Somewhere I'm sure, it's 12.15 am here now so I will have a look after a good nights sleep, just got back from the big smoke about an hour ago, we're expecting a frost in the morning, so you can imagine it was quite cool riding the old beamer!:roll: (about 100mls one way) I'll pm you if I have any luck, cheers!:yep:

[Cheapskate]

Thanks mate :up: :up: :up:

[Anvart]

...
i can't open your NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat with silent editor,
...
???
Oops.
While? ... Ooh, yes, S3ditor cannot consider all cases ...
You did not look NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat file ... ???
How you did your mod?
...
I have fixed Type2 UBoat interior mistakes - NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat file, because it is the big file and not all modders can work with such file ... It was my main task ...
Tilt (inclination) was my optional task ...
This work is made for a long time, therefore I already do not remember details ...

P.S.
Now I have started SH3 with my mod ... Works excellently ...
Cameras rotate in a vertical plane along a longitudinal axis of a submarine ...

Crush dive:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1865/crushdiveextiv4.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9041/crushdiveintbf6.jpg

Emerg. surf.:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1413/emergsurfextyi9.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/531/emergsurfintlk4.jpg

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Maybe just switching camera view will correct this intermittent problem with your mod without requiring you to rewrite any camera behaviours??

I already tried that as a part of my testing. It did not correct the problem.

[Reece]

That's great news Anvart, are you going to release this?:D
PS. No offence Vickers.

[vickers03]

That's great news Anvart, are you going to release this?:D
PS. No offence Vickers.

the type2 in my mod is working just like that..

the problem is that in type7 and type9 the radioroom
tilts to the side and not up/down

PS
Anvart, i did open the type2 commandroom .dat,
but only the gwx and stock one.
i edited the radioroom rotation coordinates there
for the dummy_cam.

[Reece]

the problem is that in type7 and type9 the radioroom
tilts to the side and not up/down
How do I get this to show, I go to radio room when diving or surfacing in type 7 and works correctly as in Anvarts pictures though still haven't tried with a crash dive yet!:roll:

[Anvart]

That's great news Anvart, are you going to release this?:D
PS. No offence Vickers.
Look #95 ...

[Letum]

the problem is that in type7 and type9 the radioroom
tilts to the side and not up/down How do I get this to show, I go to radio room when diving or surfacing in type 7 and works correctly as in Anvarts pictures though still haven't tried with a crash dive yet!:roll:

The problem does not happen with the open hatch version of the type 7.

[Anvart]

...
PS
Anvart, i did open the type2 commandroom .dat,
but only the gwx and stock one.
i edited the radioroom rotation coordinates there
for the dummy_cam.
Look Cameras.dat file...
_Dummy_Cam_InteriorFore structure (hierarchy) and _Dummy_Cam_RadioRoom structure are identical...!!!
Next...
Look in NSS_Uboat7_RR.dat and NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat structure (hierarchy) of cameras (Dmy_CAMparent(_RR), Dmy_CAM_RR_01, ... 04)...
And you will see small nuance... :yep:
I have applied X-controller (in NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat) in my mod to cameras:
Dmy_CAMparent
Dmy_CAM_RR_01
Dmy_CAM_RR_02
Dmy_CAM_RR_03
Dmy_CAM_RR_04
Dmy_INTCAM1
Dmy_INTCAM2
Dmy_INTCAM03
Dmy_INTCAM04
Dmy_INTCAM05
...
Here there is a space for ideas... think and experiment...
Conning Tower - it's more complex case... (third case)!

P.S.
For the analysis of NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat (in my mod) you can use HexEditor :D

[Reece]

Look #95 ...
That's no good Anvart, I have heard that the power of suggestion might work ... Anvart ... you are getting the urge to play & mod SH3 again!:yep:
Did it work?:sunny:

[Reece]

The problem does not happen with the open hatch version of the type 7. I have closed hatch!:yep:
However, remember this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136808&highlight=Reece

[Anvart]

Look #95 ...
That's no good Anvart, ...
Sorry ...

[vickers03]

Anvart, thanks for your support.
i'm aware of these things and will take a closer
look into camera hierarchy:ping:

[Xmalhautl]

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[Sailor Steve]

I've never worried about the diving angles. I'm usually too busy checking the maps and guages over and over again. If it does start to bug me I just Shift+F2 and stay in the back of the control room. The food always swings the right way.

[GoldenRivet]

in my opinion this mod has been needed for a long time.

Im glad it seems to work just fine on my installation.

thanks!:rock:

[Marksoldier]

Hi!

I'd like to change the interior diving angle. Which value I have to modify? I want to set own interior diving angle.
Pls Help!

Thanks!