SUBSIM's totally awesome Empire: Total War thread

[Raptor1]

I've been using Darth mod and AUM. The Darth mod ups the unit size a lot, a single unit (except England) will have 375 troops in one unit of line infantry!!! I've wondered why England gets smaller army units than all of the other countrys??

Somebody pointed out on this thread that their infantry is generally better. Also, IIRC, they historically generally had a smaller land army than most European countries and instead relied on their fleet for defence.

Oh, Darth mod is great BTW, at least until a proper realism/historical accuracy mod comes out.

Oh, 1000 replies for this thread

[Skorn]

It's a great game, but the campaign settings leave a bit to be desired, and there's some quirks it seems with alliances and war being declared. I played the Brits on regular/medium setting and won pretty handily. Currently I'm playing Sweden on hard on the 100 year campaign and I achieved the goals after about 25 years. Almost all of Europe is mine (not my fault!) due to everybody and their brother declaring war on me when I had no intention of invading them.

Twice I've had trade routes set up with countries and their relation to me was 'very friendly' only to have them declare war on me out of the blue. I'm allied with United Provinces and every turn they offer a territory and some gold for 2 territories that I will not be parting with. I'm waiting for the declaration of war from them anytime now.

I almost declared war on the UP when I was attacking a territory and my army was like 1 space away from being able to siege the capital, and out of nowhere the UP came and swooped it from right under my nose. I was ticked :damn:

Side note: I really like the variety of ships in the game but at least 1/3 of them I would never use in combat. Once you have the ability to use SoL there really isn't much of a reason to use any of the frigates that come available to you.

[rubenandthejets]

Had a look at AUM-seems pretty good. After spending a lot of time with people who were really nit picky about uniforms (table top gamers spend 99% of their hobby time either researching or painting and 1% actually playing) I really appreciate accurate uniforms!

Seems my submarine sim time is getting pretty limited these days. I'm spending most of my gaming time on ETW!

[Task Force]

After a long stalemate on the western front... (As you know, im playing as the marathada confederacy, we control all of russia..) We are getting nowhere... we have too little military manpower in that region and too little recources to take down sweden, and prussia.

britian has taken a region in india...

the ottoman empire has an army behind my lines... I tying to get there last 3 regions.

Back to sweden. they were at war with poland, and I was at war with russia... so russia didnt stand in there way with poland...
now they had a stockpile of troops...

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Well I got bored of playing as Russia and started playing as England. And now after getting to 1800 there are four nations in Europe:Russia,Sweden, Persia,Denmark, and my long standing allies the Dutch. While India is totally under English control as are the Americas( with the execption of two native american countries and territories belonging to the Dutch.) The next target on the English Empires list is Russia. The plan is a multi-front blitz from North,South and West, they will be gone by winter 1802(maybe).:salute: and my armies will be more prepared than the "Little Corpral's" army was.!!

[Task Force]

well... installing the darth made me give up the marathade confederacy...

wounder what il do next... and ideas...:hmmm:

[rubenandthejets]

I've been playing a bit-daryh+aum+minor factions.
When I get bored I play as pirates-lots of ship battles and as soon as you capture somewhere with a free building slot aum's brothel / coach house lets you build the musketeers you need.

The Gulf of Mexico is my personal lake-tookover Hispaniola, Cuba and Jamaica and holding off the counter attacks as I rule the waves!

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

The Times June 20,1809
Special Edition

All of Britiannia Celeberates the Defeat of Russia!!!


The war that started in December of 1803 is now over today as Parliment recived news from General Duff commander of the 20th Army in a letter that "Russia is no longer a threat to the Empire. God Save the Queen." The defeat of Russia started with the capture of Moscow, followed that summer by the capture of Arkhangelsk,Norway, and Karelia.
A few years later after the destruction of smaller field armies left behind the lines to cause mayhem, the capture of Komi by an all Scots army that had also taken Arkhangelsk. Then came the fall of Tatarlya three months later. Finally on the 10th of June 1809 the last city still held by the Russians was captured. The news sparked wild celebrations across the Empire, it was even reported that the governor of New York declared that the taverns would give free beer to all citizens of New York. In London there was a grand display of fireworks and a military parade attened by the Royal Family. With an empire the extends from India across Europe to the Americas the saying "The Sun Never Sets of the English Empire", is true.

[rubenandthejets]

Had to ditch Darth-Bessy the laptop just can't handle the big units, smoke and all the new uniforms with AUM too.:cry:

Back to vanilla+minor factions+AUM; thinking about the US Civil War Mod....:hmmm:

[stabiz]

Using Darth right now, and it rocks! Had a two full stack ultimate unit size vs one full stack-battle right now and there was smoke everywhere.:)

Oh, and if anybody want massive performance improvement in Empire get a Velociraptor or some other 10,000RPM HD. I bought a 300GB for OS and games, and its slightly expensive, but my oh my does it do wonders for loading and AI turns. Noisy little bugger, but very worth it so far. (It did zero for Arma 2, that game just seem to run **** no matter what I do, and my computer is pretty good)

[Arclight]

Or instead of a raptor, get 2 cheaper drives and put them in a RAID0 array. Got 2 250GB drives here, forming a 500GB array, hosting the page-file and game installs. But you'll need a decent board with RAID controller for that.

imho raptors are overpriced, noisy, hot and produce a lot of vibration (more noise). :-?

[Raptor1]

imho raptors are overpriced, noisy, hot and produce a lot of vibration (more noise). :-?

Discrimination! :O:

[Arclight]

:rotfl:

Figured it was only a matter of time before you popped in. ;)

[stabiz]

:)

So you are saying two 7200RPM discs match a 10000RPM disc when in raid 0? If so, damn it!

(I have rubbered monting points for HDs, so not feeling/hearing the vibration bit)

[Arclight]

I can't say for certain, it's not like I did any benchmarks with both configurations. But I think moving from 7200 to 10000RPM is an incremental step, while a RAID0 theoretically doubles performance. Of course it doesn't work out like that in practice, but I still think RAID holds the advantage, both in performance and price. :hmmm:

A raid array with Raptors, now that is insane. :o :D

Maybe pick up another (identical) one of those drives in the future and give it a try. ;)

*2x WD 640GB Black edition. Beats anything but 2 VelociRaptors in RAID0, and even 1 of those drives beats the older Raptor. Tip for the budget minded. ;)

[stabiz]

How do one set up a raid 0? I am a complete n00b at stuff like that.

[Arclight]

Well, for starters you need a MB with a HD controller that supports RAID. Then you need 2 HDs, freshly formatted and preferably identical. During boot, you can press a key or combination to get in the RAID BIOS, much like regular BIOS. There you tell it what 2 drives are to be used and set up some settings, the controller combines the 2 drives into 1, and thats'it. It'll show up as a single drive in OS.

Basically, all data is broken up into chunks (stripes) and divided across the 2 HDs. Half of a file on 1 and the other half on the 2nd. When reading and writing, data is read/written from/to 2 drives at once, so theoretically at 200% speed.



Other configs are possible with more drives for security: if 1 of the 2 drives fails in RAID0, all data is lost, because the remaining drive only contains half files. A RAID4 array for example, uses a third disk that contains the complete file, but because the results when reading from the combined drives is checked against what is on the 3rd (parity) disk, most speedbenefits are lost. RAID0 offers highest speed boost but with lowest security. There are many options available, though most consumer level controllers only support 2 or 3 levels; standard RAID levels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels)

[stabiz]

Damn, this game is really good now. When it first launched I had a weaker computer, and the game had more bugs than Arma 1.0. Now I am really enjoying it, and with Darthmod it becomes spectacular. Its 1786 at the moment, and I am getting to that late game thingy where I have to much money and steamroll everybody, but I had a blast up until that, and caught myself thinking this game can handle being compared to Medieval 2 (maybe not Rome). When the supermods come i think this game is truly going to be epic.:yeah:

I am playing Hard/Very Hard, will try VH/VH next with a really suicidal starting point. Maybe Preussia. :)

Thanks for the pointers on RAID, Arclight!

[Task Force]

I like the darthmod, I really do. but the smoke effects really kill my system... to a standstill...

[stabiz]

I never go below 20 fps. Usually stays around 45-55 all maxed out in 1920x1200. The ATI HD4890 is a good GPU.

[Task Force]

Im stuck with an 8800gts... and it hate particles...
(Waiting for the 300 series to upgrade.)

[stabiz]

300 series? Something new? To tired to google, off to bed.:)

A cool incident from a battle tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro5aFaVbYfs

[Task Force]

300 series? Something new? To tired to google, off to bed.:)

A cool incident from a battle tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro5aFaVbYfs

yea, new nvidia card to come out his year... to replace the 200 serise cards...

From what Ive hear they have skipped DX10.1 and went on to DX11...:yep: Everything sofar makes them sound good, theyve been developeing the for a while...

[stabiz]

CGI and trailer mix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGmfBpjldQg&fmt=22

[Task Force]

Anyone ever had ETW crash on startup... right after the first page?...

[Arclight]

Nope, though I've seen it do all kinds of weird stuff. :doh:

* 190.xx Nvidia drivers solved my issues (Win7 64b).

[Task Force]

D*** I need this game to get running within the next hour... (MP with hunter and raptor.)

[Arclight]

Only thing I can think of is latest driver, fixed my issues at least. :cry:

[Task Force]

yea, im useing the latest drivers.... I got this D*** issue after uninstalling the darth mod, and ETW, then I reinstalled ETW, now it dosent work...:/\\!!

[Arclight]

Doesn't work after fresh install? That's pretty bad...

How did this mod install? Was it an installer, or some method like with JSGME? If it was done by installer, there might be invalid stuff left over in the registry after (bad) uninstall. :hmmm:

Maybe run a regcleaner. Longshot, but who knows.



Normally I'd say uninstall, regclean, defrag and install to different location, but I guess there's no time for that. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/55666
John open up steam and RMB on Empires, click on properties, then on the local files tab.

Click on 'Verify Integrity of Game files' this will make stream check your files online and update anythang wrong.

Cant guarantee it will fix your problem, but it solves alot of corruption issues.

Good Luck.

Also you may still have the Darthmod userscript in place, the CA folder in documents is NOT deleted when you unistall empires, so you need to do that one manually.
(look at the original darthmod to see where the userscript can be found)

[Task Force]

What is this regestry cleaner you speak of...

Maby installing to programs files instead of my games folder I made would help....
(I also hate this steam BS)

[Arclight]

CCleaner is an option (http://www.ccleaner.com/), but check what I posted just above first. Someone with exact same issues as you.

[Task Force]

rgr... Im going to reinstall the game, to a complete new part of my HD... If that dosent work I will try what he did...

[Task Force]

At times like these I feel like beathing my computer up...:damn:

YES, I fixed It...

[Arclight]

Just buy a console then. :O:

* Fixed? Good. :up:

[Raptor1]

Just buy a console then. :O:

*clobbers Arclight to death with his keyboard*

[Task Force]

Just buy a console then. :O:

Hmm... (insert sicksmilie here...)

[Arclight]

:rotfl:

Did that MP campaign mode make it in yet? Forgot to check last time. :06:

[Task Force]

no, we just did single battles...

[mengle]

patch 1.4 end this month
they also tell that this patch gone make the way for the new upcoming expansion
http://www.9lives.be/games/empire-total-war/nieuws/empire-total-war-krijgt-nieuwe-update

[Arclight]

Rough translation for people who can't understand a word of that article:

SEGA Europe announced that the 1.4 update for ETW will arrive late September. The update will affect the AI on the campaign map and in real-time battles. There are also improvements to sieges and naval battles. These will now progress more balanced, offering more immersion.

"All players of ETW will be pleased with this update because we have continuously listened to the feedback we received through our forum", says Mike Simpson, Creative Director of The Creative Assembly and the founder(?) of the Total War series. "Thanks to all the players of ETW we've been able to lay the foundation for all the fascinating content that will be released in the future." To show that the company will continue to support ETW, CA has announced that this patch will pave the way for future DLC, including the expansion pack that will be unveiled soon.

[mengle]

thanks arclight to translate, i diden't find the proper words to translate myself :up:

[Arclight]

:salute:

Yeah, can be tricky. How the heck do you translate "geestelijk vader" to English? :doh:

[HunterICX]

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/gameinfo/news.php?n=3422

HunterICX

[Arclight]

I like mine better. :O:

[Task Force]

Today was a glorious day for the subsim alliance(britian, the dutch, and austria.). anainst the other cowards... (prussia, france, and spain.)

[Raptor1]

Today was a glorious day for the subsim alliance(britian, the dutch, and austria.). anainst the other cowards... (prussia, france, and spain.)

And a rather less glorious day for the British and Ottoman armies...

[Task Force]

yes... in one of the closest fights ive ever seen in ETW... lol:yep:

[HunterICX]

And a rather less glorious day for the British and Ottoman armies...

I think that we could call that a battle of atrition between us , with really close end results.
still I enjoyed the match, it was undecided till the last minutes :salute:

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

I still claim I would've won if my rifles would have shot your cavalry like I told them to... (And having my general not killed on the first minute would also have helped, but I guess that's bad luck)

Was really annoying that every single attack command I gave my units didn't seem to get through, have to check if that's a common multiplayer issue.

[HunterICX]

I still claim I would've won if my rifles would have shot your cavalry like I told them to... (And having my general not killed on the first minute would also have helped, but I guess that's bad luck)

Was really annoying that every single attack command I gave my units didn't seem to get through, have to check if that's a common multiplayer issue.

Yes I had issue with the non responsive units too, sometimes had to click twice or three times before they finally responded it would have spared me some blunders too if they did respond immediatly.
also I noticed the game freezed for a couple of seconds from time to time.
I guess that evening we had a bit of bad internet latency between us.

however I guess it wouldnt have been a desicive victory for the both of us even if we didnt have this little penalty with the sometimes non-respondive units.

HunterICX

[mr chris]

Empire's Expansion announced.

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/campaigns/index.php?t=EnglishUK

Will only be available via download from steam.


Also in other news the latests patch is to be released tomorrow.

[Raptor1]

Empire's Expansion announced.

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/campaigns/index.php?t=EnglishUK

Will only be available via download from steam.


Also in other news the latests patch is to be released tomorrow.

I have to say, of all the things they could've made an expansion about, this is the most boring topic...

[HunterICX]

I have to say, of all the things they could've made an expansion about, this is the most boring topic...

+1

HunterICX

[mr chris]

Totally agree i was looking forward to a couple of different smaller campaigns involving Europe and maybe India. Over a varied time scale.

I for one will not be getting the expansion.
I will just enjoy Empire until Napoleon total war comes out.

[Biggles]

Jeeez, CA finally makes a wrong move:hmmm:

[Arclight]

Yeah... I like archers, but not when going against muskets. :nope:

Musketball beats arrow most of the time. :roll:

[Raptor1]

Hopefully this will be the first in a series of M2TWK-like small campaigns so we'll have a chance of getting something more interesting next time.

But I won't be happy until I get my pike and musket TW...

[stabiz]

Ouch, I have no interest in this either. Thats a first from CA.

[Oberon]

Interesting, a chance to be historically massacred by the new guys on the block :hmmm:

[Raptor1]

Interesting, a chance to be historically massacred by the new guys on the block :hmmm:

About 2 centuries too late for that, it was quite well modelled in M2TWK though

I might buy it if the additions to the campaign map, factions and everything is transferred to the original Grand Campaign though, will add a bit more variety to the enemies you face as a colonial power

[Raptor1]

1.4 is out

2 new historical battles (Rossbach and Fontenoy, pretty good picks, but I want my Blenheim and Ramillies!), but the thing I like the most about it is this: Missile cavalry can now fire and reload whilst on the move, not sure if it's totally historically accurate, but it will greatly increase the value of horse skirmishers

[Task Force]

yep... downloads slowest ever...:shifty: maby it will finish before 4:00... who knows...

[Raptor1]

Murderers...

[Oberon]

About 2 centuries too late for that, it was quite well modelled in M2TWK though

I might buy it if the additions to the campaign map, factions and everything is transferred to the original Grand Campaign though, will add a bit more variety to the enemies you face as a colonial power

I meant more the end stage 'Manifest Destiny' era, Custer and all those arses.

[Raptor1]

I meant more the end stage 'Manifest Destiny' era, Custer and all those arses.

Century too early, they put this nonsense right in the most unsuitable time

And now they murdered the main menu! I DEMAND BLOOD!

[HunterICX]

Century too early, they put this nonsense right in the most unsuitable time

And now they murdered the main menu! I DEMAND BLOOD!

Which throat first:stare:

HunterICX

[Task Force]

I honestly dont give 2 s**** about the menu... I only see it for 5 seconds at max...

[Raptor1]

Alright, here's what I've seen from the patch for now:

-Main menu, stupid advertising, hopefully modded back out soon because I can't stand the music

-Rossbach, one of Frederick the Great's greatest victories turned into some kind of boring minor skirmish

+Dragoons and Carbine cavalry are much more useful now that they can fire on the move (And the normal Dragoons get rank fire too)

+Land battle AI seems much better, I've seen them do stuff like sending a part of their troops in a decoy attack on one part of the line while taking a large infantry/cavalry group to attack the flank on the other side

+Many people say that the AI does naval invasions properly now, and say that the diplomacy is better

Didn't play a campaign yet though

[HunterICX]

I honestly dont give 2 s**** about the menu... I only see it for 5 seconds at max...

Still, it feels like I'm launching the wrong game :88)

HunterICX

[Oberon]

I always thought Dragoons dismounted before they fired, or am I thinking in the wrong century again? :hmmm:

[mr chris]

I really hate the new menu screen.
Very tacky piece of advertising. :nope:

[HunterICX]

I always thought Dragoons dismounted before they fired, or am I thinking in the wrong century again? :hmmm:

in ETW you have
Dragoons (they have to dismount before they can fire)
Light Dragoons (can fire when mounted)
Carbine Cavalry (Same as light dragoon)

HunterICX

[mr chris]

If you check out some of the extra unit mods out there you can get mounted skirmisher etc.:up:
Never trained any before as to stop fire then move again made them to much of a target but might try a few out now that they can fire on the move.

[Oberon]

in ETW you have
Dragoons (they have to dismount before they can fire)
Light Dragoons (can fire when mounted)
Carbine Cavalry (Same as light dragoon)

HunterICX

Aaah :salute: That makes sense.
What about Hussars? Are they in as well?

EDIT: Just realised that they would probably fall under the category of Light Dragoon ;)

[HunterICX]

Aaah :salute: That makes sense.
What about Hussars? Are they in as well?

EDIT: Just realised that they would probably fall under the category of Light Dragoon ;)

Hussars are in the game as well, some are bit different like Austria for example has Hungarian hussars and Poland-Lithuania has Winged hussars.

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Aaah :salute: That makes sense.
What about Hussars? Are they in as well?

EDIT: Just realised that they would probably fall under the category of Light Dragoon ;)

The Hussars in the game are sabre cavalry (Or, in the Polish Winged Hussar's case, lancer), they don't have their pistols or carbine (As far as I know they weren't universally equipped with guns)

Carbine cavalry and Light Dragoons aren't the same either, Light Dragoons have longer range guns now and can dismount to act like regular light infantry

[HunterICX]

Menu Fix: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=297813

HunterICX

[HunterICX]

Another add with the Update 1.4
is the Officers of Line infantry yelling the stuff you expect them to yell

example the British ''Make Ready! Take Aim! Fiyaaah!'' synced pretty much with the animation :yeah:

HunterICX

[HunterICX]

:huh: the hell???

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1931/defeat.jpg

Now..when they declare war..you better be prepared, I focused to much in the indies that the 1 fullstack I had wasn't enought against 3 - 4 full stacks the french used against me. and naval blocade which I couldn't counter.

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

To the French?!

Guess the Tirailleurs finally caught up with Hunter...

[Castout]

I want my samurai and ninjas.....where is my Shogun II Total War :06:
I'm obsessed with feudal Japan...

ETW is a GREAT game and I'm looking forward to Napolean too but I would certainly pick Shogun II over Napoleon if given the choice and just had to make a pick.

Been watching that BBC heroes and villain Shogun episode, playing Shogun board game, reading about Ninja and Samurai and a 1,000 page book titled Taiko which tells the story of the life of Toyotomi Hideyoshi a poor peasant who rose to power and reigned over whole Japan after Nobunaga was killed and before Tokugawa Ieyasu took over Japan for 250 years. Like I said obsessed :rotfl2:. I find feudal Japan to be fascinating much more appealing than the modern today's Japan :D.

[HunterICX]

Like I said obsessed :rotfl2:
:huh: No kidding,

I must of all the Total War games, Shogun is also one of my favorites..due it's the introduction to this series and I have wasted many hours in battles and campaigns and ofcourse train ninjas..because the assasination videos where the best thing in the game and where worth training ninjas for :rock:

if they remake Shogun, they better bring back the loads of cutscenes and videos like in the original.

and as I've posted somewhere before Shogun the original had the best TW music IMO

HunterICX

[Lurchi]

ETW is a GREAT game and I'm looking forward to Napolean too but I would certainly pick Shogun II over Napoleon if given the choice and just had to make a pick.
I second that too!! I miss my lovely Geisha who killed all my enemies with her hair needle ... :88)

[Raptor1]

I'd rather have a good 17th century game before another remake, can't say that feudal Japan is more interesting to me than the Thirty Years' War, and the pike and musket era is also perfect for the TW battle system.

[Task Force]

:huh: the hell???

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1931/defeat.jpg

Now..when they declare war..you better be prepared, I focused to much in the indies that the 1 fullstack I had wasn't enought against 3 - 4 full stacks the french used against me. and naval blocade which I couldn't counter.

HunterICX

yea, the french started on me early last time...:shifty:

[Castout]

:huh: No kidding,

I must of all the Total War games, Shogun is also one of my favorites..due it's the introduction to this series and I have wasted many hours in battles and campaigns and ofcourse train ninjas..because the assasination videos where the best thing in the game and where worth training ninjas for :rock:

if they remake Shogun, they better bring back the loads of cutscenes and videos like in the original.

and as I've posted somewhere before Shogun the original had the best TW music IMO

HunterICX

Yes I agree with you Shogun has the best music of all. The cutscenes are still the best in all TW series. Now cutscenes are goofy and feel more like a comedy.

But instead of bringing back the old cutscenes they better make even a much better ones.

Just imagine the current engine to model a fully armored samurai with his katana and martial art moves :wah:


I second that too!! I miss my lovely Geisha who killed all my enemies with her hair needle ... :88)

I don't mind a little soft porn for Geisha cutscene in Shogun II Total War :O:

[NeonSamurai]

I also agree (have said it before repeatedly here too). STW was also my top favorite of the series and I still play it from time to time. I would love to see STW 2, though I do worry they would mess it up if they did.

[Castout]

I also agree (have said it before repeatedly here too). STW was also my top favorite of the series and I still play it from time to time. I would love to see STW 2, though I do worry they would mess it up if they did.

STW won't run in Vista environment.:damn:

[Raptor1]

Apparently the aweful menu is an advertisement and also apparently 'temporary'


There are a number of you who dislike the new Warpath menu screen, it was implemented temporarily in order to let everyone know that a new DLC was coming shortly. Whilst those of you who read the forums regularly and follow Total War developments (thank you) will be aware of the expansion, many players at home will not. The menu screen is a good way of letting those players know that an expansion is coming and that it'll be of a native american theme.


New multiplayer maps in 1.5


• Grassy Flatlands - This is a flat, balanced map designed for competetive/tournament play.
• Austrian Pinnacles - A maze like European landcape with plenty of opportunities to outflank and maneuver around your opponent(s).
• Syrian Ridge - A desert map with several oasis scattered around and a large sandy hill near the centre to dominate the opposition.
• Siberian Plateau - A balanced flat snowy tundra map, heavily forested to allow for ambush and conealed fighting.
• Homestead - An American plains map with several cabin dwellings and low rolling hills with oportunities to seize elevated positions.


Hope these maps make more sense than the stock maps...

[HunterICX]

the new maps are indeed interesting :hmmm: and hopefully they are any good.
I hope it isn't just a Generic mess like the stock maps

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Hmm, a Ninja patch!




Fixed a bug which which occasionally allowed factions who were not allied to be invited to join a war
Improved campaign map performance
Republics will no longer dispute a claim to a throne via a war of succession
Fixed a crash when pathfinding for embarking/disembarking
Fixed situation where balance-of-power bar on battle screen was not considering the correct set of reinforcements
Made the decision of which third-party factions can be involved in a campaign battle slightly fairer
Interceptions are no longer suppressed when blockading a port
Fixed rare crash after naval battles
Fixed rare crash caused by successful revolutionary armies containing units that were not permitted for the resulting government type
Fixed crash in AI logic structures
Reduced AI army clustering
Improved AI invasion troop movement
Various light infantry behaviour fixes
Naval and Land unit balancing
General AI improvements



Interesting...

[Dowly]

Yes, interesting patch indeed. So interesting, that my Steam decided to go haywire and either it downloads at 1b/s or just doesnt even connect to my account. Awesome stuff. :rock:

[Task Force]

ROFL!!!

Me hunter and raptor just got aut of a etw battle... lol, but it was more than a battle...:har:

Raptor took abunch of rockets, hunter abunch of mortars, and I abunch of Peckle guns... (raptor as britian, hunter as the ottomans, and me as prussia, with there new unit supreme line infantry (or something like that)

agains the natives... who are over powered in all there overpoweredness...

In the end raptors rockets made the natives S*** there pants, hunters Mortars flattend the earth. (and lots of houses) and my peckle guns well... made a pile of dead people... (and Im not jokeing, I killed a s*** load of them... but they charged me with a s*** load of stuff and I lost alot, but still killed well over a thousand of them...

Those peckle guns are something else... They turnt a horse charge of 60 into 12 when they reached my lines... (had about 10 units of them)

:rotfl2:
revenge from an earlyer battle.

[Onkel Neal]

Got this game from a very generous friend through Steam. But, other than a land battle tutorial, cannot find the game manual or instructions on how to upgrade farms, docks, combat capabilities, etc. Help me before I have to resport to blindly pushing keys in hopes of finding the HELP section of the game. :wah:

[mr chris]

Neal double click on your steam icon to bring up the steam page.
Then click on the my games tab that is listed along the top of the page.
Then right click on empire total war then click on view player manual.:up:

[Raptor1]

Got this game from a very generous friend through Steam. But, other than a land battle tutorial, cannot find the game manual or instructions on how to upgrade farms, docks, combat capabilities, etc. Help me before I have to resport to blindly pushing keys in hopes of finding the HELP section of the game. :wah:

There's an advisor thingy when you start a campaign (Enabled when you start a campaign in the 'Gameplay Options' screen, though it should be on by default) that tells you all sorts of stuff. Also, the first parts of the Road to Independence campaign are also sort of tutorials.

Generally, the game is much simpler than the earlier TW games, upgrading things usually only requires clicking on them and upgrading to a better version or opening the research screen and picking something.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, and what he said.

[Onkel Neal]

For crying out loud! I should have been a cryptologist, I had the My Games screen up, I guess I should have started clicking around more. :stare: Sheesh!

Thanks, Chris! :salute:

[mr chris]

For crying out loud! I should have been a cryptologist, I had the My Games screen up, I guess I should have started clicking around more. :stare: Sheesh!

Thanks, Chris! :salute:

No worries.
Enjoy conquering the world:arrgh!:

[Onkel Neal]

There's an advisor thingy when you start a campaign (Enabled when you start a campaign in the 'Gameplay Options' screen, though it should be on by default) that tells you all sorts of stuff.



Yeah, she keeps telling me to lower taxes and build a shipyard, etc. but I do not see any way to do it :hmmm:

[Raptor1]

Yeah, she keeps telling me to lower taxes and build a shipyard, etc. but I do not see any way to do it :hmmm:

There's a 'Show Me How' button on the next to the advisor thing, not sure how it works though, I learned from playing ridiculously complicated wargames that the only way to learn how something works is to push buttons until you get the desired effect. :O:

[HunterICX]

For crying out loud! I should have been a cryptologist, I had the My Games screen up, I guess I should have started clicking around more. :stare: Sheesh!

Thanks, Chris! :salute:

:DNeeeeeeeaaaal....could you be so kind to give us your Steamnick
I have a bunch of Dutch line infantry that would like to give you a musket welcome :O:

Ow and ofcourse, Me, Raptor, Taskforce play ETW online regulary (Tuesdays , Thursdays and sometimes sundays)
so we can have some team matches if you feel like :yeah:

HunterICX

[Task Force]

yep... lol welcome to etw neal... :up:

(now off to try to capture all of mainland europe with the dutch...)

[elanaiba]

Dutch infantry ? Perhaps they would meet my Coldstream guards?

[Raptor1]

Let's see how they hold up in the face of my Windbüchse Jägers...

[elanaiba]

Oh, those sneaky buggers? Lucky for me they only have very limited ammo.

No match for well trained Green Jackets!

[Raptor1]

Aye, the ammo is a problem, but as long as they have it, they're probably the single most powerful infantry unit in the game.

[Task Force]

BUWAHAHAHA!!! I have officialy declared this fort with this small garrison of troops on my southern front unenterable... lol

for the past fiew years Wruttemburg has not gotten in as of yet! the worst they have dont is get on my walls... and slaughtered!

[Onkel Neal]

Steamnick is SUBSIM, naturally.

I am enjoying the heck out of this game, discovered that the trade, govt, and other icons slowly become available as you play through the game. In the first few missions, they are greyed out and that advisor chick keeps telling me to lower taxes, built a dock, and a bunch of stuff the player cannot do at first, that was what was giving me trouble. All better now.

Play online? Yeah, but I need to fully understand the game. Right now there are nuances that are lost on me. So, I need to practice a few months first. :shucks:

[Castout]

Got this game from a very generous friend through Steam. But, other than a land battle tutorial, cannot find the game manual or instructions on how to upgrade farms, docks, combat capabilities, etc. Help me before I have to resport to blindly pushing keys in hopes of finding the HELP section of the game. :wah:

Neal playing ETW this should be put into subsim front page news :O:
It's a GREAT game! :yeah:

[elanaiba]

Play online? Yeah, but I need to fully understand the game. Right now there are nuances that are lost on me. So, I need to practice a few months first. :shucks:

Be aware that the online play is limited to "battles" at the moment, so you don't need to worry about all the campaign stuff for that.

[Task Force]

The fort on my sothern front has gotten a new name... The meat grinder lol

Just had a battle, my garrison V there 1,500+ troops...

I lost around 300 men, they lost 1,300ish before calling it off.:yep:

Trying to climb walls is never a good idea... lol

[stabiz]

Yeah, ETW is very good, but I have been pondering as to why I am not all over it as I was with Rome. I think its the SH3\Das Boot thingy all over, as every time I see legions or hear somebody do a meaty monologue in some documentary about Rome, I instantly drool for some Rome 2 action. Maximus lookingus forwardus. Oh, and bows are much cooler than muskets. Hands down. But yeah, samurais would be cool too.

[Raptor1]

I still like Rome better than Empire, mostly because Empire, while a very good game, is a very bad representation of actual 18th century warfare.

[Task Force]

hmm... Is it just me or does the AI suck at fort assults...

I just held off are new enemys (Hannover)at are homeregion... and all 5 of there line infantrys were killed off by my 2 half distroyed line infantry and some armed citizentry...

There losses were Extremly high... while ares was under 100 men...

In other news... hannover really likes horses... cause there entire army had over 6 calvary units... lol

[Castout]

Yeah, ETW is very good, but I have been pondering as to why I am not all over it as I was with Rome. I think its the SH3\Das Boot thingy all over, as every time I see legions or hear somebody do a meaty monologue in some documentary about Rome, I instantly drool for some Rome 2 action. Maximus lookingus forwardus. Oh, and bows are much cooler than muskets. Hands down. But yeah, samurais would be cool too.

Perhaps because Rome is the more macho of the two ?:DL
Spitting out your enemy guts with a short sword in a brawl is every boy's dream of the kind of man they are aspired to become. Well not me but I guess is everyone's else. I prefer the katana instead that blunt Roman sword. Ugh it reminds me again to whine about my Shogun II Total War :damn:. WHEEEEEEEEEEEN

For me I think ETW is much more epic than any other previous TW series offering. And there's the naval battle to die for with majestic looking tallships!

Edit: But come to think of it my favorite weapon is the double edge flaming sword of God's! Now that is THE sword! My Diablo II disc is damaged no chance to play that though lol

[Raptor1]

Pfft, the sword, katana and musket are such inelegent weapons. The pike is clearly superior to them all...

[nikimcbee]

Yeah, she keeps telling me to lower taxes and build a shipyard, etc. but I do not see any way to do it :hmmm:

You do need to watch out when she advises you to scrap the military and go for socialized health care though.:haha:

so how do you like it so far? We should play sometime.

[nikimcbee]

Steamnick is SUBSIM, naturally.



Play online? Yeah, but I need to fully understand the game. Right now there are nuances that are lost on me. So, I need to practice a few months first. :shucks:

okay, times up:yeah:

[Task Force]

I think for his first match... Neal did good yesterday.... :yep:

[JHuschke]

Oh yes, I cannot wait until I buy Empire: Total War..but I have to get the money first!

[stabiz]

Its 50% off on Steam now, lasts until tomorrow.

[Task Force]

BAA... Sweden decided to take over hannover... and now they want us...:damn:

and this funny little country I thought I had shown I could kill them (hence the fort of death decided the want war...

this might be the end of are sucess... we have war on all fronts now... west,south, and east...(and I think someones gonna try to damage my northern sea trader routes...)

Kind of reminds me of 1944...:hmmm:

[Task Force]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9410/holycrap.jpg
Just had this battle... Look at the results, if you can read them. lol

I play on the hard difficulty... A huge hill can make a HUGE difference in a battle... lol

[Onkel Neal]

I think for his first match... Neal did good yesterday.... :yep:


Thanks, but I had it easy, the enemy focused on you and Raptor, I was free to do all the fun flanking stuff. Plus rockets--lots of rockets!

I have been playing through the North American campaign. Those Brits sure get fussy when I jack up the taxes on them to build the Royal Navy. But I had to teach those Frenchies who's boss of the high seas. :smug:

Man, it took all day to wear down the French and capture their capital. I would get a big army built, and the people would start rioting, so I had to throw the army into battle to cut costs.

Still learning stuff. Do fences and walls and trees actually have an impact against projectiles? The advisor chick keeps talking about upgrading my capitals but I don't see how to do it. And where the heck is this control panel?
http://guides.gamepressure.com/empiretotalwar/gfx/word/-1338426500.jpg

And those stubborn Huron Indians finally decide to do some trade, but I think I got mixed up and gave them Newfoundland for free :88) That's ok, I'll just got take it away from them later.


But, that's all ok, because after this, the game got officially, totally, and completely cool! :yeah:
http://www.subsim.com/images2/1776.jpg

[Raptor1]

Still learning stuff. Do fences and walls and trees actually have an impact against projectiles? The advisor chick keeps talking about upgrading my capitals but I don't see how to do it. And where the heck is this control panel?
http://guides.gamepressure.com/empiretotalwar/gfx/word/-1338426500.jpg


Yes, fences and walls block projectiles, not sure about trees but your infantry should be harder to spot in the woods, so they help, especially for light infantry.

Upgrading your capital, click on it and look on the bottom, you have a list of structures you can upgrade.

The research panel is in one of the smaller buttons on the bottom-right corner in the campaign map.

[HunterICX]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4136/researchp.jpg

click on that icon for the Research panel.

to explain how that works -

for research you need a school (if you start a campaign by default you have one in the province)
you get more school when taking over a enemy province that has one.
or when towns in your provinces grow and you get the option to upgrade that town with a Church, School, Weaver's cottage or (forgot it's name but increases people's happiness)

when you build schools it spawns Gentlemen's once in a while, which you can put into these school to increase the Research rate (takes less turns to research something).
with these Gentlemen you can also go out and go to enemy school and try to steal a technology or duel with the enemy's gentlemen (this gives you a quiet fun video)

hope that explains the research a bit.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

Good idea... burn down the schools, they cause a S*** load of problems...

makes the population very angry...:yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Man, I cannot get past the point where the Spanish declare war on me. Then they gang up on my and wipe me out :wah:

[Castout]

Man, I cannot get past the point where the Spanish declare war on me. Then they gang up on my and wipe me out :wah:

Really?
Are you playing on very hard campaign AI? and or very hard battle AI? You should do just fine on normal/normal.

The battle AI is not very good while I find the campaign AI is best set at normal.

[Onkel Neal]

No, I'm not very good. I think the AI is in the middle. I am stuck, every time I load I get the same situation, British and Spanish attack my capital, and I am outnumbered. I guess I need to go back to a previous save and start over. :dead:

[Onkel Neal]

Learning as I go, I see there is a good reason to send my agents to universities. And never charge a wavering cavalry unit with Militia!

Summer of 1794, won't those Brits get the message and go back to their island? :doh:

[HunterICX]

I salute you, Neal :salute:

that was a great battle you put up against me in that 1 vs 1 last night.
for a rookie your doing a heck of a job inflicting heavy casualties on my troops in that fight.

HunterICX

[Onkel Neal]

Lol, yuh, right. I got creamed!

Thanks for helping me figure out how to access the unlocked American Grand Campaign :salute:

Now, how do I add more universities to the tech tree? I have New Haven, but that's it :( In the RTI campaign I saw up to three in there at a time, but not sure how. I have all the east coast US schools and some scholars in them, but they don't show up in the tech tree? Is there a list of tech-able schools somewhere?

Great game, but damn, I spend 1/2 my time searching for answers to basic stuff like this. Creative Assembly should have included an ingame Google feature if they could not be bothered to include this in the manual. :dead:

[Task Force]

so... yer asking how to make a collage...

ok click on a empty city... at the bottom of the screen you should have a option to build a church, a factory thingy, something else, and a school...

build the one that says School.

And dont forget to stuff your scholars there... they speed the process up.:up:

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, I am beginning to understand. I need a new location, or destroy an existing location and rebuild as a school... thanks

[Dowly]

Ok, I am beginning to understand. I need a new location, or destroy an existing location and rebuild as a school... thanks

Yup, that would be the case. From my own experience and the way I play, I've been good with just 2 schools. One to research infantry tactics and the other to whatever I feel like at the time, usually the economic stuff. If you're mainly fighting on land, you dont need to get better units as you go = no need for über economy. Just get the fire by rank/line stuff researched and your regular troops will mow down the enemy as if they had MG42s. :salute:

[stabiz]

Yeah, I usually research land combat stuff and alternate between the industrial stuff along the way. I find the naval battles incredibly boring so I dont bother with that at all. I also try to steal as much research from other nations` schools as possible with gentlemen.:)

[Onkel Neal]

Oh man! I was just one turn away from completing all the objectives in the American grand campaign before the 1825 deadline :dead: My general was one move away from New Mexico, just one move...:wah:

Well, now I can start over knowing a little more about the basics....

[HunterICX]

My French Grenadiers shooting at British troops in a battle somewhere on the march towards New York

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8724/grenadiers.jpg

HunterICX

[Task Force]

Im playing as Prussia... we have a huge army now, 2 full stacks, and half a stack) but barley enough income to finance it...

so now we must distroy austria! (which isnt actualy too hard....)

Campaign settings...
Campaign Very Hard

battles Hard.

campaign= World Domination...

oah yes, and in my campaign hunter... you are now french... lol

[Task Force]

Scratch that Prussian campaign... Poland decided to declare war on me, and had alittle blitz warefare on my north... :shifty:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I started a new world domination campaign in ETW as the Ottomans. So far it been pretty easy, the Poles give me money for farming techs, had a land swap with the Mathera Confederacy and Genoa. Had a short war with my own protectorate, and now I get dragged in to war with Spain thanks to Austria. Then there was the Battle of Cartagena between my fleet and a full stacked Spanish fleet. Here are the resualts, Spain Deployed 20 ships, lost 9, killed 3 enemy ships and had 11 ships captured, remaining 0. Ottomans Deployed 14 ships, lost 4, killed 7 enemy ships, captured 0, remaning 10.:arrgh!::yeah:Now thats a slightly lopsided battle isn't it?

[Red Heat]

I just love the Creative Assembly games...and im playing since Shogun total war!|
One question please, before i buy the Empire total war special forces edition, Portugal is represented in the game and its able to play with Portuguese forces?

Thanks! :)

[HunterICX]

@Red Heat: Sorry, but Portugal is a NoN-playable nation.

the playable nations are:

-United Provinces
-France
-Spain
-Ottoman Empire
-United States (needs to be unlocked, by playing the ''road to independance'' campaign)
-Great Britain
-Prussia
-Poland Lithuania
-Austria
-Russia
-Maratha Confederacy
-Sweden

HunterICX

[Red Heat]

Oh i see...another negative point in the World History, I JUST CANT BELIVE IN THIS...because Portugal WAS a great Empire and the History proves that fact...and we deserve to be there! :wah:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire

Any away...im a man-of-arms and the next country near Portugal (under protest, of course lol) its Spain...so Alea jacta est :arrgh!:

But i will NOT buy the dam game! :mad:

P.S. Thank you for your info HunterICX...

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Heres something for you Red Heat, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=262048 it makes all factions playable of course Portugal is included.:yeah:

[Raptor1]

Oh i see...another negative point in the World History, I JUST CANT BELIVE IN THIS...because Portugal WAS a great Empire and the History proves that fact...and we deserve to be there! :wah:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire

Any away...im a man-of-arms and the next country near Portugal (under protest, of course lol) its Spain...so Alea jacta est :arrgh!:

But i will NOT buy the dam game! :mad:

P.S. Thank you for your info HunterICX...

But was it a comparable great empire in the 18th century? Especially since the most important parts of it at the time are not on the ETW map.

Anyway, it is rather annoying that they didn't include nations that should obviously been playable as ones (Mostly Denmark-Norway, Portugal and the Mughal Empire).

[Red Heat]

Heres something for you Red Heat, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=262048 it makes all factions playable of course Portugal is included.:yeah:

Thank you very much, Kptlt. Hellmut YOU ARE MY HERO!
I will buy the game and try the mod! :D

@Raptor i full agree with your point o view... :DL

P.S. My first battle it will be in your Honour, guys! :up:

[Task Force]

YES!, I hated that FOW bug...:shifty:

anyone know of a good music mod for etw?

[HunterICX]

My France campaign is getting really interesting.
pretty much due half the globe is in war with me.

My Goal was -

Europe:
Not to go on the offensive against the German States or Britain.
secure borders and keep a good relation with my Ally Spain.

America:
take over some of the provinces from the Native tribes in the North and move myself South towards my Protectorate Louisiana.
I was to take over some provinces so Louisiana would fall under my control

now, what happend:

Europe:
Soon it was clear that the German states where not going to stay at peace soon Whestphalia, Wurtenberg and Prussia declared war on me.
Whestphalia went on the offensive and was pushed back and eventually to eliminate the threat I took over their only capital and Whestphalia was history. Same fate to Wurtenberg.

Prussia made one attempt by attacking me in the Rhineland province but their attack was halted and they retreated.

United Province attacked me twice in Rhineland untill I sieged Amsterdam and took it after 2 fierce battles. still the province is rebelling from time to time.

meanwhile in America:
Thing wheren't going as fast as I hope due that the natives put up quiet a resistance but also I got myself into War with Britain, it got me some territorial gains on the westcoast but to avoid that britain starved my trade I had to get myself a peacetreaty with them.
Eliminated 2 Native tribes from History which threatent me from the North and East and was moving to the south to get the last province so Louisiana would join my empire.

but then back in Europe:

My king died and Austria declared a war of succesion on my as it didn't aprove my new heir to the throne the son of the died king, which pulled Bavaria in a war with me too. Sweden who was a ally at the time pulled out of the alliance and stayed at peace but wouldn't help me.
so far nothing happen from Austria's side as they seemed to be kept busy with the Ottomans and Poland-Lithuania.

and now the worst part:
Spain declared war on Louisiana, and together with Britain they gobbled up Northen Louisiana (by the British) and Southern Louisiana (by the Spanish) and there goes my protectorate....
those Spanish traitors!
I immediately lay siege on Flanders who was still in Spanish Controle while Bavaria invaded me with a large army and took Rhineland who was poorly protected at the time.
I'm now having a siege at Rhineland with half my forces from United provinces I took flanders from the Spanish and have to worry about the Southern part of France as it's pretty much unprotected I will try with diplomatic manners to force Spain into a peace so I can by myself time to secure the North-West of Europe and protect my South.

Vive la France!

HunterICX

[Task Force]

After you get everything stright in the east... id just take over spain... you still have military access... march your army down there... get outside there capital, break your alliance and declare war on them... once you do that, they are not as strong as they were in europe... there ships have no docks and they have no ports to there capitals (once you take over all of continental spain, and there itilian and med. stuff...)

and once you kick them out of europe there colonys in the americas turn to rebels, who have little to no armys.

[Onkel Neal]

Hunter, great write up :salute:

I restarted my American campaign, and knowing a little more about the game, managed to take all the objectives by 1825 and continue as a grand campaign.

My goal was to remove the Spanish from all regions north of Panama (great natural choke point). But after kicking them out, they would not agree to peace & kept raiding my shipping lanes. So I took them out completely. They were holding France, so I gave that region back to the French (my allies).

I guess the British saw that as a threat, because then they declared war on me, and they came to play. I had to defeat them in NA, and decided wth, maybe it was time to finally invade the British. So I conquered that little island to the left of Britian, and then it was pretty easy to conquer the rest of their main island, it is pretty small.

Of course, there are Brits all over the globe, in India and N. Africa, so I waited and waited but again, no peace. So I took them out.

Now I am fighting with Austria, and Russia and Martha declared war on me, even though I have been kissing up to them with regular state gifts.... Prussia decide not to be my ally, only the French are with me. It's not looking good, Russia and Martha are the other two main powers, besides the US and Austria. And Austria is a handful, they have 8 stacked armies...but all in the north. I am sending a force through the Balkans next...

Meanwhile, many of my cities are starving. Why? I have set all taxes to zero, and the regions are all fully developed.... is there any way to get more food in there? I do not see how to create new farms. I have demoed the trade ports in several places and replaced with fisheries... any suggestions?

[HunterICX]

Have you updated your farms?
(ofcourse you have to research agriculture)
see research panel

HunterICX

[Onkel Neal]

My research tree is maxed out, I think.

[HunterICX]

and your farms have been upgraded yes?
apart from your capital you can upgrade the buildings in your provinces like the Churches, Schools and weaver/Work -shop and ofource Farms and some other buildings as well.

HunterICX

[mr chris]

Neal if any of your buildings have a golden spanner above them they can be upgraded.

[Dowly]

Or then ETW has the same issue as RTW & MTWII had. If you have biiiig cities and their population keeps on growing you will encounter problems with sanitation and food. :hmmm: In other words, your cities have grown too large for the game.

PS. I havent myself encountered this problem with any of the games, but I keep hearing about it every now and then.

[Task Force]

youall tried building fisheries....

Task Forces british camaign...

my goal in europe....
1 kick the french and spanish out... im currently chokeing the french, Ive taken over paris, and am thinking of how to get flanders (wish the dutch would help.) and savoy which they took over... eventualy push the spanish out of western europe...

In the americas I lost rupters land to the natives, but have taken over florida... I have 2 plans...

1 take over the cherokee... they might get agressive if I do plan 2...

plan 2 attack spain and lousiana... get there teritorys...

my main issue is money... and keeping my units full... Im gonna test out the waters in the trade theatres... if I have too many enemys Ill pull out, if not im staying.

other issues it that the populace attitude in paris... is very low, Ive had it take over a decade to get them happy before...

[Onkel Neal]

Neal if any of your buildings have a golden spanner above them they can be upgraded.


Yeah, I know about those. I check for them but I don't get them anymore. Is there a "list" of areas waiting to be upgraded? The advisor chick usually tells me about one each turn, if there is one available.


Or then ETW has the same issue as RTW & MTWII had. If you have biiiig cities and their population keeps on growing you will encounter problems with sanitation and food. :hmmm: In other words, your cities have grown too large for the game.

PS. I havent myself encountered this problem with any of the games, but I keep hearing about it every now and then.


I think that's my problem. I need to draft some of these people into my Anti-Austrian Armed Forces :cool:

[Task Force]

holy crap, austira... how far have you gotten... and what difficulty...:hmmm:

[Onkel Neal]

I'm on the middle setting, "Normal".

[Task Force]

lol... Try on hard, or very hard...:lol:

you will see how quick the ai will kick yer butt...:rotfl2:

[Biggles]

I think normal is a good start. It's not extremely difficult, but the enemy can be a real annoyance!

[HunterICX]

As long you keep the BATTLE dificulty on NORMAL

HARD and VERY HARD will give the AI insane bonuses (accuracy & Morale) but does nothing about the AI tactics.

Campaign dificulty will make the AI more agressive and raise some economic penalties on the player and economic bonusses on the Enemy.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

Well, one of the nations I have an alliance with (Hannover) went to war with sweden...

and guess who went with the... well... we took over norway... (who would want norway... oah wait, the Vikings...) and are starting to build up troops there...(at least they like me.)

The war that lasted years, that went away, and got quiet, then came back again...

yep, me and the frogs declared peace... but are revolutionary friends in France decided to revolt... and that didnt set well with me, I needed there tax money... (and there american colonys.)

we took back france... now they have just one small region... (how they pay for there military is beyone me...)

and are spanish buddies are blocking my seaways... , and unlucky here dosent have the ships to stop it, nor the money to make the ships to stop it... (I disslike the spanish in this game with a passion now...)

(where are those heavy first rates when you need them... stupid lack of techs...)

my gentleman sir isaac newton... (yes I said it right) is steeling the naval techs from the swedes nicely... lol)

[stabiz]

(who would want norway... oah wait, the Vikings...)

:stare:

[HunterICX]

a short After Action Report Video of the Siege of Rhineland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-okvodEgRlk

Enjoy

HunterICX

[Captain Birdseye]

Does anyone know how I can cheat and get some extra funds with this game? i'm aware no cheats exist but hoped you computer whizzes could show me a way to fill my coffers :DL

[HunterICX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3yvYXqI8c

Some info and footage of the upcomming NTW

HunterICX

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

December, 1702 The Battle of Flanders. The first Dutch Army under the command of Hendrick van Nassau-Ouwerkerk invades the Spanish held territory of Flanders, the declaration of war with Spain of course the Frogs declare war on the United Provances in support of the Spainish.
The battle begins with a Dutch artillery battery on the Spanish solders.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7315/empire2009111412232003.jpg
A farmhouse that the Spainish troops used for cover is reduced to rubble by the 24 gun battery.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9227/empire2009111412235270.jpg
Finally the Spanish realize that running back and fourth isn't going to win this battle so they start to send troops foward, and what do they send? PIKEMAN!!!!:har:Who are soon running in the other direction.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/865/empire2009111412562242.jpg
So after most of the Spanish forces retreat theres only one regiment of firelock armed citizenry and one regiment of artillery.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6756/empire2009111413122753.jpg
And the battle result.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4739/empire2009111413194939.jpg
Next stop Paris!!!

[Task Force]

Yay! NTW!!! I want...

But anywho...

My glorious prussin campaign has ended with a stall in advanceing...

poland was a little a**hole and brought the Russians in the campaign...

austira Is also being an a**hold...

so... business as usual... rebelions, fighting, retreating (well the enemy retreating)...

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

July, 1703 The Battle of Paris. At the onset of war with Spain,the French side with Spain and declare war on the United Provences. After the victory at Flanders the First Dutch Army still under the command of Hendrick van Nassau-Ouwerkerk advances on Paris. The French have a large welcoming commity waiting for the Dutch forces.
The battle begins with the French running around like chickens with their heads cut off and getting blow to bits by the Dutch cannons.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6136/empire2009111413355451.jpg
A side view of the 24 gun battery.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7775/empire2009111413363032.jpg
The French decided to bring out their artillery too but it doesn't last too long.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/958/empire2009111413393456.jpg
The French manage to form two battle lines but don't advance so the Dutch artillary continues its bombardment.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9318/empire2009111413484987.jpg
The view from the Dutch artillary battery as they fire on the French.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1228/empire2009111413503900.jpg
The French still refuse to advance as they continue to be bombarded.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5241/empire2009111413512646.jpg
Now the French start to advance only after a building that a French regiment was using for cover was destroyed by the Dutch artillery.Which is seen on the left flank burning.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9019/empire2009111414021023.jpg
The Dutch artillery continues to desimate the French forces.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/136/empire2009111414023642.jpg
The French start to retreat after being fired at by musket and cannons.
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9774/empire2009111414043395.jpg
The battle ends after three Dutch regiments cut off the remaining French troops and fire on the fleeing French.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5606/empire2009111414213612.jpg
Next stop action in the East!:salute:

[Task Force]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4752/revolutionm.jpg
Hmmm... A revolution...:yep: Good bye old prussia, hello new... (now at war with the frogs, brits,and ruskis...)
I got a peace treaty with austria, courtland and poland...

[Task Force]

hmmf... TFs prussia campaign... (the save after the revolution broke...:shifty:)

Well... my fiew ships i have paying attention to britian have found something that is really gonna cause me issues... they have created a landing force and are sailing it out of the channel now... Im surspecting they will land on brandonberg or attack hannover (which I dont own.)

Austria is gone... It was split up into 3 fractions in 3 regions...

It appears they went wholesale... and gave hannover one region, I took there capital and the ottoman empire took the southern half... the populace in my part is PISSED!!!

Poland has gave up and we are at peace (pushed into just 3 regions now, rather small... but russia is starting to scare me... (they have been quiet...)

My plans...

1 fight off british invasion (I was planing for one, but they beat me to it...), take army that has experience and give them a How do ya do in ireland, or scotland...

2 secure borders, and create a decent navy (which is almost non existant now...

3 prepare for the invasion of MOTHER RUSSIA!!! (or maby expanding france.)

4 Get some colonies in the americas...

5 invade denmark, then sweden (not sure about the order tho lol.)

[Task Force]

The invasion of britian

Time to do what Adolf couldnt... Invade britian.

were landing on scotland. and will work out from there... as long as there navy dosent sink the ship there on all should go as planned...

they invaded hannover, which gives them a direct path to berlin... so we will soon have to invade them there.

russia just sent a scouting party (Im pretty sure they wernt just raiding. I expect more out of them... (but sadly i have no rakes to spy.)

[HunterICX]

Neal's remaining units before launching his last assault, both armies at this point where in poor shape:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7411/sinttulo1bn.jpg

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

I am going to assume he won this one, then.

EDIT: Actually, the force strength bar seems to indicate a draw, so I don't know.

[HunterICX]

I am going to assume he won this one, then.

I managed to win thought, due that I had taken the higher ground and was in a forest my units where hidden untill they came in close range and having stuborn Black watch that held their ground.

had aprox 150 fighting men over the rest ran off the battlefield when it was over.

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Ah, having any sort of Guard unit intact helps a lot, they take a ton to break, have platoon fire and give the rest of your troops morale bonuses.

[Task Force]

I could use a unit of those now.:damn:

[Task Force]

The invasion of britian was a sucess, scotland is ours, and london is next.

[haz]

world domination playing as briish, french only have one piece in new world.newfoundland,have all trade points covered pacific etc,they have on providence in france ne corner cant remember name.but when i attack their last city,they somehow come up with 4-5 main units in a turn.and a ton of civilian rebel.where they getting funds all time?? they have no ports,schools,etc.any ideas what Im doing wrong here,they have defeated me 4 times now,and i have superior forces.anyhow on to austria they need a whipping.got to love this game.hows the on line play?

[Nickolas]

no one is having trouble with the HUD since one of the last patches?
My HUD, unit cards, map displayed at the diplomacy window, everything actually. They all went cattywumpus.

[Raptor1]

The MP campaign beta is out (http://www.totalwar.com/empire/beta/), if the server was working.

[Task Force]

YAY!!! And no more native menu... too bad its only 1v1...

[Pillar]

Is there some kind of realism mod for this yet?

[Nickolas]

personally i really like the Darth Mod. it might not be a "realism mod" per se, but it's fun.

[Task Force]

Is there some kind of realism mod for this yet?

There probably is, but other than darth mod and afiew others... Nope...

ETW is a good game, but its not realy *realistic* it seems quite simple...

[Castout]

Hi guys there's the multiplayer beta up for grab. Will this go beyond beta status? I thnk all ETW owners could download the BETA MP campaign.

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/beta/

[Raptor1]

Hi guys there's the multiplayer beta up for grab. Will this go beyond beta status? I thnk all ETW owners could download the BETA MP campaign.

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/beta/

The MP campaign beta is out (http://www.totalwar.com/empire/beta/), if the server was working.

You're late, way late...

[Castout]

You're late, way late...
lol I'm not sorry I would rather wait until they sort out the bugs :)

[HunterICX]

I hope it will succeed and be released in the next patch.

HunterICX

[Castout]

They haven't fixed that damn naval battle compass. They are sliced into three now since the previous patch. Am I the only one who is nuts about this?:damn:

[Task Force]

Me and hunter were messin around with the MP ETW campaign, Him as russia, me as sweden... I was in a battle with poland and right in the middle. steam decided that server stuff... Great timeing steam.:shifty:

[Arclight]

But it works? Kinda? :06:

[Task Force]

yep, it works. only issue we had was with my modded startpos.(something) after fixing, all was well.:yep:

[Raptor1]

But it works? Kinda? :06:

Yes, it works. There are still some bugs and disconnects, but as long as you save often there aren't too many problems.

Only problem is that there's no bloody option to pick whether you want to fight instead of the AI or spectate...

[Task Force]

Is it just me or can you not retreat from a battle in the MP campaign?

[Raptor1]

Is it just me or can you not retreat from a battle in the MP campaign?

You can retreat an AI battle by deploying your troops on the far side and ordering an immediate retreat (Hunter did this a few times in our campaign when he decided that the AI-assembled army was insufficient for besieging my cities. Bah, coward). You can also normally retreat your own armies.

[Arclight]

Time to get back into ETW me thinks. Only completed a short campaign as Sweden and got started on a long Dutch campaign, but then got "distracted". :oops:

[Task Force]

Oah well... Those people in courland will feel my wrath... and eventualy poland...

[Raptor1]

If half my troops weren't busy besieging Warsaw (Despite the Hunter-led Polskalitewskiewaffe's attempt to break the siege with their superior numbers) and the other half trying to hold onto Minsk I would've gotten rid of these Courland pests ages ago.

Courland is clearly the scourge of the world...err...Well, after Westphalia...

[HunterICX]

@Arclight: the MP beta works quiet well apart from what beeing said that you sometimes have problems with ''Out of Sync'' or connection errors or you get stuck in a diplomatic screen due a lag spike or something.

lucky there is a autosave that saves the game after each turn.

HunterICX

[Biggles]

Can you play campaigns with humans players rather than against them?:D

[Raptor1]

Can you play campaigns with humans players rather than against them?:D

Well, you could make an alliance with the other player in the campaign. But when there's a battle that involves one of the players and an AI faction, the other player will take the troops of the AI (Unless he's set to spectate before you start the campaign, but that makes it quite boring).

[Biggles]

Well I've started using Darth Mod. It's pretty fun. Here is my troops, lifting the siege at St. Petersburg.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8518/empire2009123020230737.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1766/empire2009123020233276.jpg

[Raptor1]

I was not too thrilled about NTW when it was first announced, but, looking at the new trailers (http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/gallery/videos.php) and info, it seems that much of my problems with Empire are being corrected.

A few things I notice is that they show Winter attrition (A feature sorely missing from ETW), the maps obviously have many more provinces, turns are apparently 2 weeks (I see Early/Late, Month, Year). The maps also seem bigger to me, looking at the minimap, and the units are clearly not as bland and generic as they were in ETW.

[Task Force]

That looks Very good.:DL Cant wait till we see the finished product in afiew weeks.:D

[Task Force]

LOL, I just got the laugh of the day...

I set up a quick mission, me prussia, with a large force of artillary, and light infantry, and france they had a fort, and a large force of light infantry and 2 artillary...

well the battle was almost over, but this 1 light infantry unit, with 1 man stayed. lol... He came running into my unit and started fighting... I put them on guard to see how long he would last, 1v1...

HE killed about 7 of my guys LOL... Before the 8th one killed him.:rotfl2:

He cant be french.

[AJ!]

Has anyone played a campaign as the maratha confederacy?

I found that only having the mughals to deal with is alot less stressful then going for a european country sharing boarders with multiple empires :shifty:

My only enemy now is England which after two failed invasions of my turf have had their island pillaged.

After a long voyage from india my forces arrived at port royal and have been working there way up the coast taking town after town in their bid to kick the british out of america for good :D

[Onkel Neal]

I haven't played this in a few weeks, but to you who know the series well and know all the opinions about this game, a couple questions, sirs:

When the game was released, what was the general opinion of the media?
What was the opinion of most players?


I ask because, I went into this series knowing nothing about it, other than seeing some hype on a magazine cover about it last year. I got the game as a gift, and I thought it was freakin' fantastic. I noticed a small detail here and there that I thought could be better, but overall, it rocked. :rock:

That's the opinion of a Total War noob, me. Now, the reason I ask is because there are Subsim guys like us, who judge Dangerous Waters, PT Boats, and Silent Hunter 3/4/5 on our scale, and we make up, say 5% of the total sales (an example, I do not know the actual percentage).


Then there are the remaining 95% who judge subsims on their scale, like me and ETW. I wonder, are we too critical and unrealsitic? Or, do our demands keep the series improving?

[USS Sea Tiger]

I play Rome total war with the Napoleon Total war II mod to it and it is great but it seems you have a different game here, what is it please??

[HunterICX]

Empire Total War the latest in the Total War series, and keep your heads up for the upcomming Napoleon Total War.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

empire total war, soon to be replaced by Napoleon Total war...:yep:

[AJ!]

I do not understand Napoleon Total war. If it was a downloadable xpack like the native american campaign then it would make sense but they are packaging it as a brand new game in the total war series :doh:

Surely this this going to be 90% Empire with a few reskind units and a new campaign??

[Raptor1]

I do not understand Napoleon Total war. If it was a downloadable xpack like the native american campaign then it would make sense but they are packaging it as a brand new game in the total war series :doh:

Surely this this going to be 90% Empire with a few reskind units and a new campaign??

That's what I thought, but hopefully (And, so far, apparently) it's a much bigger improvement over ETW.

[Skybird]

I know the first titles of the series, Shogun, Medieval, Rome, and Medieval 2. Always nice concept, but what struck me in Rome and Medieval 2 was the weak campaign AI and weak battle AI, especially when it came to the issue of manouvering armies in cities.

How is the AI in Empire? Strategy games stand or fall with their AI.

[Task Force]

I know the first titles of the series, Shogun, Medieval, Rome, and Medieval 2. Always nice concept, but what struck me in Rome and Medieval 2 was the weak campaign AI and weak battle AI, especially when it came to the issue of manouvering armies in cities.

How is the AI in Empire? Strategy games stand or fall with their AI.

Still stupid, IMO... sometimes running around like chickens with there heads cut off...

[tater]

How is the naval aspect of this game? Does it suck?

[Task Force]

Its all right, but the ships dont handel like real sailing ships. ( but there is a mod that helps with that.) and some otherstuff...

[tater]

Are they motorboats with sails?

[Task Force]

in stock, well... my main complaint is there turning... they accelerate alittle to fast IMO also... they also seem very small even tho in real life some (ex 1st rates)are quite large...

Im hopeing they do better in NTW...

[tater]

Should I buy this, or wait for the new one out soon I think?

What mod maximizes naval realism?

[Task Force]

hmm... well, were less than a month from NTW... NTW is what I would get, but If you want to get empire, and do get it... pm me, ill upload the mod somewhere, forgot where it is, raptor linked me to it.:up:

I feel etws naval stuff hasnt matured to be that great yet, but with time it will.

[tater]

Assuming it has some sort of sailing model to start with and it's not motorboats with sails, maybe I can fix it.

[Task Force]

well with the mod, Id say the naval warfare is not perfect, but pretty good.

an example of how it changed a MP match... hunter,raptor, and I V the ai.

well, awhile back we use to play ETW me. one day we started up a naval battle, to see how this thing worked...

everyone got 3 ships of the line, and 3 smaller ships.

The Mod made a huge difference, battles use to last 30 mins maby, but this one went on for over and hour and 30 mins, around 2 hours...

at the end, there were only 2 ships still running, I had 1 and raptor had 1, hunter had gotten in the center of the battle, and was sunk...

Every other ship was ither sunk, blew up (powder bunker) or surrenderd...

I think we posted about it awhile back, I will take alook.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1201857&postcount=929
hunters post. (yea, he got his camera underwater. lol)
mine is below it.

[Castout]

I'm ANGRY at CA for LYING about multiplayer campaign in ETW...heads must roll . . . :/\\chop

I didn't sign up for the beta I thought it was going to be released in subsequent patch . . .

[Raptor1]

I'm ANGRY at CA for LYING about multiplayer campaign in ETW...heads must roll . . . :/\\chop

I didn't sign up for the beta I thought it was going to be released in subsequent patch . . .

What were they lying about, exactly?

[Castout]

What were they lying about, exactly?


I believe they promised a multiplayer campaign as part of ETW feature.....:hmmm:

[Raptor1]

I believe they promised a multiplayer campaign as part of ETW feature.....:hmmm:

No, IIRC they promised it would be a patch after release, and so it is...

[tater]

I was reading a readme thread for patch 1.4 (what is the latest?).

It explained some stuff about ships that was disheartening.

Ships of the Line are slower. less maneuverable and and less accurate with gunfire while frigates are faster. more maneuverable and more accurate, and small ships (sloops, etc) are faster, more nimble, and even more accurate.

They clearly don't have a care for accuracy. A SOL should be a BETTER gun platform IMO, certainly not a worse platform. Speed? Again, smaller ships are certainly going to accelerate faster and be more nimble. They can also sail closer to the wind. As for the ultimate speed? No, the smallest craft (for and aft rigged) might be faster in most wind conditions, but running large with the wind (particularly a light wind), I'm not at all sure a SOL could not keep up with a frigate or anything else. Sailing is complicated.

At the very least their accuracy of gunfire needs serious modding, the LEAST accurate ships should be the small ones. Bigger means more accurate and a higher weight of metal thrown into the bargain. Handling sounds like at least the order of ships is right, speed? The range of top speeds should not be very large, IMO. COurse it should be entirely dependent on the wind speed and point of sail.

[tater]

I bought it yesterday. After some Steam issues (I figured it out after some good forum FAQ crap, but it was by no means turnkey, frankly) I got it running. AFter a brief naval battle or two I immediately looked for naval mods (darthmod lite so far) to fix the horrible sailing. On top of that, IMO the ships move too fast.

From the look of it, you control the speed by setting sail. The wind seems an afterthought to the game. Speeds in the game seem overly high to me in general, the naval battles are at normal speed in "fast forward." In RL, with battle sails set (top'sls, etc, no courses) they've be creeping around at maybe 3-4 knots. Walking speed.

Needs to slow down a lot, IMO, everything is too responsive.

Still, pretty cool for screwing around, and my son likes seeing naval battles (he can reproduce them with his fleet of playmobil ships (yeah, I had to buy him enough to have small engagements :) )

[tater]

All the speeds seem grossly fast. From the discussions of the naval mods, they set the max speeds properly, but I think they forget that time is grossly accelerated. Same is true for land battles. Things that should take hours to evolve take minutes.

Makes it rather too twitchy. If you slow time down, then the animations are slow.

[Castout]

No, IIRC they promised it would be a patch after release, and so it is...


Umm I believe they mention MP campaign before release and I read somewhere when it wasn't on release it was promised to be given as part of patch . . . .

I missed the beta now no MP campaign for me :hmmm:


Well I'm not that angry just kind of upset...because I feel I've been mislead with false information.

[Task Force]

All the speeds seem grossly fast. From the discussions of the naval mods, they set the max speeds properly, but I think they forget that time is grossly accelerated. Same is true for land battles. Things that should take hours to evolve take minutes.

Makes it rather too twitchy. If you slow time down, then the animations are slow.

what mod are you useing... and how many ships in total?:hmmm:

[tater]

I just put darthmod in.

It's far better than stock (ships appear to slow and even stop into the wind), but they accelerate fast, under easy sail they are almost always making near what I imagine to be top speed.

I could park a ship of known length, then use a stopwatch to calculate the speed. I was thinking in general, though. Things seems to happen quite fast even on land.

The worst thing about the naval stuff is boarding and collisions. Ships don't ever seem to foul, and even a head-on at speed doesn't send anyone's masts by the boards. I also have yet to see a naval engagement in anything but blue water—no terrain, lee shores, etc.

Oh, and ships sink far too easily and fast, IMO.

[Task Force]

I just put darthmod in.

It's far better than stock (ships appear to slow and even stop into the wind), but they accelerate fast, under easy sail they are almost always making near what I imagine to be top speed.

I could park a ship of known length, then use a stopwatch to calculate the speed. I was thinking in general, though. Things seems to happen quite fast even on land.

The worst thing about the naval stuff is boarding and collisions. Ships don't ever seem to foul, and even a head-on at speed doesn't send anyone's masts by the boards. I also have yet to see a naval engagement in anything but blue water—no terrain, lee shores, etc.

Oh, and ships sink far too easily and fast, IMO.

hmm, would you like for me to sent you the mod... it fixes the ships sinking fast, increases hull strength... (adds some new ships also.)

[tater]

Which one is it? The rebel fleet thing? I saw that one. I DLed a few but have not tried them yet.

[Raptor1]

There's a mod called 'Naval Mod', it's somewhere deep in the TWC forums.

The large 'DarthMod Ultimate Commander Edition' pack should include it as well.

@Castout - Are you sure you can't sign up for the beta right now? The signup page is still there...

[Castout]

@Castout - Are you sure you can't sign up for the beta right now? The signup page is still there...
Oh really I'll check it out it's on steam right?

Edit

Doh never checked SEGA site
Umm got it thanks now it's up just need to find someone to play with to test it out lol
Will it ever pass the beta stage for ETW? Been so long in beta . . .

[Raptor1]

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/beta/

Pretty sure you can still get in...

[Castout]

Yea I got it Now to find someone to play with probably at the weekend :hmmm:

[tater]

So I tried to use modmanager to enable another naval mod while disabling darthmod.

Crashed. Removed new mod. Reenabled darth. Crashed. Now I can only start it up vanilla.

Great.

[tater]

Turns out Steam autopatched it and broke everything. Odd, I checked steam right away and it iddn't have todays date in there for recent patches.

[Raptor1]

Turns out Steam autopatched it and broke everything. Odd, I checked steam right away and it iddn't have todays date in there for recent patches.

Bloody new DLC...

There's a new patch announced, BTW. They say they're improving the BAI...

[tater]

BAI is Battlefield AI? CAI is Campaign AI?

[Raptor1]

Battle AI and Campaign AI, yes.

[Task Force]

Did they release a new patch... my ETW now mysteriously stops working after the start up screen now... But worked yesterday.:shifty: