Hardcore Mod for SH Veterans

[Gato76]

The reason sh4 so easy is because of the thermal layers if sh3 had thermal layers it would be an easy game to,so with a simple tweak u can make sh4 twice as hard as sh3 Open the Data/Cfg/Sim.Cfg ,in Sonar change sonar sensitivity from 1.0 to 0.05 (this is TMaru setting) Enemy Surface Factor to 120 and Thermal Layer attenuation to 1.0.Now go to Hydrone section and change the other thermal layer attenuation to 1.0,this will disable the thermal layers u most do this while on port .This is sh4 stock 1.5 i dont use any of the super mods.Now u must run silent and deep you can still get away if u know what you doing, sometimes you wont,the external camara helps,if you are commanding an sboat just hunt for lone merchants.I know this mod is not for everybody only for those who like to be challenge and deadcharge for hours below crush depth
for me this is the only way to play the game

[AVGWarhawk]

Thermal layers are a real thing. Why take them away to be a hard core SH simmer? The game reduces the detection from DD by half I believe. Removing them is not the way to go IMO. Increasing the DD detection is probably better as I have found with improved DD mods. Try Ducimus Bongo Pete and see how you do. Peto made a evasion mod. First time I used it, my butt was sunk in under 15 minutes and this is using the layers.

[Gato76]

Avg you are right i have try T.Maru and Peto evasion mod and the game still alittle to easy for me ( Bungo Pete was imposible got sunk every time) with thermal layers disable the game is hard but not imposible

[AVGWarhawk]

I like the thermal layers but I think it a a blanket for the whole area where as in RL you could go in and out of the layer and the layer was not always at the same depth as we see in the game. Some work needed here on that but for now to over come it better DD or stronger depth charges. Something like that.

[momo55]

And you play at 100 % difficulty settings Gato76? :hmm:

[Gato76]

Momo 92% i need the xternal view to avoid the escorts and i love the eye candy

[CCIP]

Momo 92% i need the xternal view to avoid the escorts

Well that explains why it seems too easy :88)

That makes a big difference. It's very easy to avoid escorts if you have eyes outside the sub. Playing by ear really changes things!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome to SUBSIM :up: Gato76


RDP

[AVGWarhawk]

Momo 92% i need the xternal view to avoid the escorts and i love the eye candy

Gato76!!!! external view to avoid the escorts.....:shifty: That is to funny. Try 100% and spend a few hours looking up at the ceiling of submarine wondering if the next can is coming for you.

[Gato76]

I play 100% dificulty before and you can see the scorts coming at you trough the observation periscope.i just can't be without the external view

[momo55]

Momo 92% i need the xternal view to avoid the escorts and i love the eye candy
Gato76!!!! external view to avoid the escorts.....:shifty: That is to funny. Try 100% and spend a few hours looking up at the ceiling of submarine wondering if the next can is coming for you.

Lol ..i even catch me looking at the ceiling of my room somethimes :rotfl:

[Ducimus]

Hardcore Mod?

Your not hardcore unless you shut that external camera off! :p

[AVGWarhawk]

I play 100% dificulty before and you can see the scorts coming at you trough the observation periscope.i just can't be without the external view


External view is great and I'm like you, I like it. Very hard not to use it. But, over time 100% made the game totally different in feel. Making a contact 8 miles off and you cannot hit outside view to see it. 100% start tracking to find it a friendly tugboat:rotfl:

[Ducimus]

Time to repost ye old anti-external cam post :D

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134693

[andycaccia]

I always thought that sh4 was a bit too easy, and I was wondering which is in you opinion the best single mod (I mean a mod with this single feature/purpose, not a mega mod with a lot of other stuff) to improve the escorts' effectiveness...

[swdw]

Momo 92% i need the xternal view to avoid the escorts and i love the eye candy
Gato76!!!! external view to avoid the escorts.....:shifty: That is to funny. Try 100% and spend a few hours looking up at the ceiling of submarine wondering if the next can is coming for you.

That's what sonar and the attack map are for. Reducing the attenuation does not make you a hard core simmer, just make you easier to find.

[Gato76]

Originally posted by swdw
That's what sonar and the attack map are for. Reducing the attenuation does not make you a hard core simmer, just make you easier to find. That's exactly what i want out this game , a challenge, been depth charge into oblivion .You take the thermal layers away and you have to fight for your life, thats the way a like the game and not trying to be hardcore i realize now i should have use a different name for this tread I know the thermal layers were real i just dont care about that, the game is really challenging now, before it was just to easy even at 100% difficulty ,dive under the thermal layer and you are safe, how fun is that