Environmental MOD continues adjusting

[W_clear]

I travel and just come back today. Begin to continue adjusting the work of environmental MOD .
Correct the mistake of 4.0 color at first, then begin to adjust the reflection light in the sea, Increase the area of water specular intensity. Increase the luminance of water specular intensity ,But a lot of problems need solving. I will continue adjusting the wave. Look at several sectional drawings of mine first :

http://img111.imagevenue.com/loc1121/th_85610_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.14.32_515_122_1121lo.jpg (http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85610_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.14.32_515_122_1121lo.jpg)http://img215.imagevenue.com/loc81/th_85628_SH4Img12008-03-29_17.17.41_546_122_81lo.jpg (http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85628_SH4Img12008-03-29_17.17.41_546_122_81lo.jpg)http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc510/th_85630_SH4Img02008-03-29_17.18.25_062_122_510lo.jpg (http://img238.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85630_SH4Img02008-03-29_17.18.25_062_122_510lo.jpg)http://img172.imagevenue.com/loc1029/th_85632_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.36.56_640_122_1029lo.jpg (http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85632_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.36.56_640_122_1029lo.jpg)

[MONOLITH]

Welcome back. Check your PMs. :up:

[andycaccia]

I travel and just come back today. Begin to continue adjusting the work of environmental MOD .
Correct the mistake of 4.0 color at first, then begin to adjust the reflection light in the sea, Increase the area of water specular intensity. Increase the luminance of water specular intensity ,But a lot of problems need solving. I will continue adjusting the wave. Look at several sectional drawings of mine first :

http://img111.imagevenue.com/loc1121/th_85610_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.14.32_515_122_1121lo.jpg (http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85610_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.14.32_515_122_1121lo.jpg)http://img215.imagevenue.com/loc81/th_85628_SH4Img12008-03-29_17.17.41_546_122_81lo.jpg (http://img215.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85628_SH4Img12008-03-29_17.17.41_546_122_81lo.jpg)http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc510/th_85630_SH4Img02008-03-29_17.18.25_062_122_510lo.jpg (http://img238.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85630_SH4Img02008-03-29_17.18.25_062_122_510lo.jpg)http://img172.imagevenue.com/loc1029/th_85632_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.36.56_640_122_1029lo.jpg (http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85632_SH4Img22008-03-29_17.36.56_640_122_1029lo.jpg)

The water is very realistic, great job!!:up:

[W_clear]

New wave.The result is better than 4.0, but need to adjust again:-? .

http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_080329/20080329_71a46765c459b4258c6darVAucXMsUKG.jpg

http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_080329/20080329_a8c76d7ed0419e04ed87o7pnt6OL92R1.jpg

[kriller2]

Hi Wclear, looks good, if we keep on inspiring eachother.. this game will turn into the most realistic experience of being in the middle of the sea..

Keep up the good work :up:

[Paajtor]

awesome!:up:

[cherbert]

Why don't you both work together on this? Its not nice having to choose!!

[AVGWarhawk]

W_clear, you made that small tweak file for smaller wave for me. It works great. No more sub on rails and it looks very natural.

[W_clear]

Thanks Kriller2

I wish eagerly to make MOD together with Kriller2, because my English is poor, unable to exchange with Kriller2, this is very sorry. :cry: .

I think, if we two make environmental MOD in cooperation, I can believe, sure to be better.

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Having adjusted the wave of wind speed of 0-4-8-15 meters just now, here was the sea of wind speed of 0 meters, calmness that.


http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_080329/20080329_e54e8a63fc8d0879dd85m1kvKfl3OKuL.jpg


http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_080329/20080329_4f95e3667e685b499b21qtEHG8cGxqjA.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

W_clear,

the windless sea looks like glass. Very nice:up:

[W_clear]

W_clear,

the windless sea looks like glass. Very nice:up:

Thanks.:oops:

[DrBeast]

My ancestors used to say: "power comes from unity". If you and kriller2 worked together, the results would not only send our jaws to the floor, but also our brains splattered on the opposite wall, that's how good the results will be! :rotfl:
That's why I LOVE this community guys, the will of the modders to help each other out. :up:

[Paajtor]

W_clear, you made that small tweak file for smaller wave for me. It works great. No more sub on rails and it looks very natural.
Is that tweak called Small_wave_forEnv4.0.rar? I installed that one a week ago or so.

[MONOLITH]

Thanks Kriller2



Having adjusted the wave of wind speed of 0-4-8-15 meters just now, here was the sea of wind speed of 0 meters, calmness that.





Looks great W_clear. :up:

[capt_frank]

W_clear, you made that small tweak file for smaller wave for me. It works great. No more sub on rails and it looks very natural.
Is that tweak called Small_wave_forEnv4.0.rar? I installed that one a week ago or so.

This is the one I saw in the original thread:

http://files.filefront.com/Smoll+waverar/;9858362;/fileinfo.html

[AVGWarhawk]

W_clear, you made that small tweak file for smaller wave for me. It works great. No more sub on rails and it looks very natural.
Is that tweak called Small_wave_forEnv4.0.rar? I installed that one a week ago or so.

This is the one I saw in the original thread:

http://files.filefront.com/Smoll+waverar/;9858362;/fileinfo.html

Yes, sometimes the waves are just out of hand and the sub is flying!

[TheBlobThing]

This is awesome. Love your work w_clear! Simply stunning! :up:

When Ducimus incorporated your work in TMO SP2 I almost cried :oops:

[Paajtor]

W_clear, you made that small tweak file for smaller wave for me. It works great. No more sub on rails and it looks very natural. Is that tweak called Small_wave_forEnv4.0.rar? I installed that one a week ago or so.
This is the one I saw in the original thread:

http://files.filefront.com/Smoll+waverar/;9858362;/fileinfo.html
Yes, sometimes the waves are just out of hand and the sub is flying! Yeah, that's the one...I remember now, I renamed it. (sorry, W_Clear...I wish the language wasn't such a barrier).

[W_clear]

It is very difficult to adjust the wave. 0, 4, 8, 15 meters all can't adjust alone, they have a connection each other, are similar to adjustment of the fog, so will adjust to reality, will need long-time test.



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[W_clear]

The sea surface of wind speed of 0 meters is adjusted and finished. The adjustment of the wave of wind speed of 8 meters is the most difficult.



http://i32.tinypic.com/19t30i.jpg

[ryanwigginton]

Excellent work!

[TheBlobThing]

I use TMO sp2, so I guess I can't just overwrite the scene.dat file with your new one, without disturbing a lot of TMO stuff?

[W_clear]

4 meters of wave are finished, tired out. Will go out to come back to go on and adjust after 5 days later again .

http://i32.tinypic.com/wum8td.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/546u02.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/103g96q.jpg

[kriller2]

Nice work Wclear, I know how it is to try an improve on the scene.dat's wave settings, just one little mistake somewhere and all the wave settings are destroyed :o

Take your time and remember to enjoy RL allso ;)

[THE_MASK]

or instead of just 4 wave states what about adding more array items via silent editor and have 16 diffrent wave states . Have a 0 wave state for no wind and a diffrent one for every m/s wind up to 15m/s .

[W_clear]

Nice work Wclear, I know how it is to try an improve on the scene.dat's wave settings, just one little mistake somewhere and all the wave settings are destroyed :o

Take your time and remember to enjoy RL allso ;)

Thanks. ;)
If I work with you, that will be easier. But my English is too poor. :cry:

[W_clear]

Adjust success in wind speed of 8 meters.
This is 9 o'clock in the morning, Left deviation, right.


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This is 12 o'clock at noon, Left deviation, right.

http://img21.imagevenue.com/loc1123/th_57219_SH4Img42008-03-31_17.50.09_937_122_1123lo.jpg (http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57219_SH4Img42008-03-31_17.50.09_937_122_1123lo.jpg)http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc649/th_57225_SH4Img92008-03-31_17.50.30_078_122_649lo.jpg (http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=57225_SH4Img92008-03-31_17.50.30_078_122_649lo.jpg)

[Paajtor]

That looks absolutely gorgious, W_clear.
I'll continue using your mod, because I really like it.:up:

I wish I could spend more time on SH4, to be able to give more feedback.:oops:

[Fish40]

Clear, it looks great! I really wish you and Kriller could join up somehow, because both your work is exceptional. With the two of you putting your heads togeather, and taking the best of both your mods and putting it togeather in one d/l, would be a win, win situation. Without question, choosing which mod to use is becoming a real chore!:yep: Keep up the good work:up:

[W_clear]

You can like my MOD, I am very glad to you like my MOD . Thanks !:)

Depending on some friends' suggestion is me, I revise and is over.

。The sea in both sides is not red that the sun rises.

。The foam has been reduced.

。 I find one question ， It is over to change . (whether cloud before the sunrise should dark a blue one in cloudy weather).


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http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc721/th_61444_SH4Img02008-03-31_18.48.15_609_122_721lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61444_SH4Img02008-03-31_18.48.15_609_122_721lo.jpg)

http://i29.tinypic.com/eq7a7l.jpg

[W_clear]

or instead of just 4 wave states what about adding more array items via silent editor and have 16 diffrent wave states . Have a 0 wave state for no wind and a diffrent one for every m/s wind up to 15m/s .


Certainly different, I am from 0 ----15 ones that test separately.

[kriller2]

Clear, it looks great! I really wish you and Kriller could join up somehow, because both your work is exceptional. With the two of you putting your heads togeather, and taking the best of both your mods and putting it togeather in one d/l, would be a win, win situation. Without question, choosing which mod to use is becoming a real chore!:yep: Keep up the good work:up:

Hi Fish.
Thanks for the suggestion, I am allso willing to join with Wclear (or make you Wclear appart of ROW as I PM'ed ), but we would have to take the best of both our mods and discuss what should be used from each of our mods, that wouldn't be an easy task if we can't understand eachother 100%

As it is now you can run both mods, by first install PE2 and then apply Wclears nice work on top of it.

[AVGWarhawk]

That dark cloud morning blue pic looks great!:up:

[Will-Rommel]

I want to add your mod on top of PE2, could you add a link so i can download your new adjustments?

[W_clear]

I want to add your mod on top of PE2, could you add a link so i can download your new adjustments?+


Will release environment 4.1 next week, some questions need adjusting and increasing .

[W_clear]

Adjust and finish at the cloudy sunrise .:D I am very happy .hahah.........
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[W_clear]

Is it too red? Which one is correct ？

http://i25.tinypic.com/dxv8h.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gtdwy1.jpg

[M. Sarsfield]

When the sun is just over the horizon before rising or after setting, you still see a sun reflection on t e water as if the sun is actually being viewed through the water - refer to the pictures in one of your last posts. Is there any way to change that?

[Sailor Steve]

That dark cloud morning blue pic looks great!:up:
It looks great because he cheated...that's a photograph!:rotfl:

Fantastic work, W_Clear. It really does look real.:rock:

[W_clear]

When the sun is just over the horizon before rising or after setting, you still see a sun reflection on t e water as if the sun is actually being viewed through the water - refer to the pictures in one of your last posts. Is there any way to change that?

Thanks.

I have found this question too, have already changed. ;)

[W_clear]

That dark cloud morning blue pic looks great!:up:
It looks great because he cheated...that's a photograph!:rotfl:

Fantastic work, W_Clear. It really does look real.:rock:

hahahhahahhahahaha......................:lol:

This travel of mine, in order to watch the sea.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2eq86ci.jpg

[TheBlobThing]

So, I ask again, this "small waves fix" for Environments 4.0 is not compatible with TMO SP2?

Thanks in advance!

[swdw]

Clear, it looks great! I really wish you and Kriller could join up somehow, because both your work is exceptional. With the two of you putting your heads togeather, and taking the best of both your mods and putting it togeather in one d/l, would be a win, win situation. Without question, choosing which mod to use is becoming a real chore!:yep: Keep up the good work:up:
Hi Fish.
Thanks for the suggestion, I am allso willing to join with Wclear (or make you Wclear appart of ROW as I PM'ed ), but we would have to take the best of both our mods and discuss what should be used from each of our mods, that wouldn't be an easy task if we can't understand eachother 100%

As it is now you can run both mods, by first install PE2 and then apply Wclears nice work on top of it.
The best way around this is to have the testers in on the communication so more than one person is assisting with the interpretation. You'd need to have patience with each other too.

For anyone testing, they'd need to understand they can't use any slang in their communications. That way if W_clear needs to use a translator, it won't produce an answer that makes no sense.

In this area, you probably have an advantage kriller. Most americans have terrible sentence structure and grammar. Your english communications probably make more sense to W_clear than the replies from americans.:D

Time to confess. I run a combined version of the 2 mods using W-Clears waves + his sea related textures and your fog/ clouds/ sun. I went through and manually edited all the wave values, while keeping al the PE2 sky, fog, water reflection, and other values.

Could post a couple of screenshots tomorrow.

[swdw]

Is it too red? Which one is correct ？

This one. The second picture.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2gtdwy1.jpg

[tedhealy]

I agree, the 2nd picture looks better. Sometimes less is more. Going overboard with color can make the game look just like that, a game...or if you go way too far, almost sci-fi like.

[mrbeast]

I'd say that the second picture looks better and more realistic IMO:up:

[MONOLITH]

W_clear... Really looking great!

Eagerly awaiting 4.1 :up:

[MONOLITH]

If you guys install W_clears over PE2; it's going to override the scene.dat file and the env_colors. So you'll basically get W_clears visuals, and only get krillers ship skins and other non environmental stuff. Isn't that correct?

[kriller2]

If you guys install W_clears over PE2; it's going to override the scene.dat file and the env_colors. So you'll basically get W_clears visuals, and only get krillers ship skins and other non environmental stuff. Isn't that correct?
Yes thats correct, you will only get the terrain-textures and trees / docks (no pink pows, why did the devs make pink POW's!? :lol: ) + optimized wakes + seafloor + camera mod and the 21 warships retextured and the parts of ROW PE that don't have anything to do with the enviroment.