[WIP]-New Fishing Trawlers

[iambecomelife]

I was disappointed with the overly-modern looking trawlers from stock SH3. I decided to create some new ones now that I am almost finished with my larger vessels. I have almost finished the first of several different designs. Hopefully I will be able to add large processing trawlers, transport conversions (yes, they did carry troops sometimes), and of course military variants for escort duty. This trawler is based on the default NKSS, but with a Liberty Ship hull. I used a lifeboat cover to create the sail.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Trawl1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Trawl2.jpg

Note that it supports hull text and symmetrical funnel logos. BTW, it would be a great help if someone has any info about registration numbers and paint schemes - I just made this registration number up.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Trawl3.jpg

Stern view, freighter in the distance...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Trawl4.jpg

An earlier version of the same ship, with pieces from merchant ships visible.

[bigboywooly]

Nice unit
Remember the bulk of fishing trawlers of any size were commandered by the Admiralty for use as minesweepers\patrol boats etc

MSTrawlers that were taken over

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=341&navy=HMS

ASWTrawlers taken over

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=332&navy=HMS

Those 2 groups alone totalled over 700 commandered ships

Whalers commandered http://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=602&navy=HMS

Tugs commandered http://uboat.net/allies/warships/class.html?ID=360&navy=HMS

No help with registration numbers as they all had penant numbers being military

http://www.adls.org.uk/ lists all vessels involved in Dunkirk but again no reg numbers
Note no trawlers named other that RN usage
All sizes of ships listed there

[iambecomelife]

Thanks for the links - I'll check them out. I never knew the RN used most of the trawler fleet ... I guess it just shows how bad the escort situation was.

Damage model testing.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Test1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Test2.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/Test4.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

Looks nice! I already have a bunch of names set aside for them.

I sent you a PM.

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

U just keep theam coming. U r making 1 hell of a good job. Wery good. I hope u will relis it soon.:up:

[iambecomelife]

New designs and skins, including a military variant.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2172008-03-1703_20_24.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2162008-03-1703_20_05.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2152008-03-1703_19_50.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2142008-03-1703_16_55.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2132008-03-1703_16_27.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2122008-03-1703_16_05.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2102008-03-1703_15_39.jpg

[Barbac]

Amazing job done here iambecomelife ! :rock:
The realease will be like a wonderful gift
You are really talented amigo :up:

Barbac

[iambecomelife]

Amazing job done here iambecomelife ! :rock:
The realease will be like a wonderful gift
You are really talented amigo :up:

Barbac

Thanks. Next I would like to use this hull for several other types of light units, if possible:

-German ASW Trawler
-German Flak Ship (Small)
-British ASW Trawler - Escort Variant (more DC racks and fewer guns)
-British AA Ship (Small)
-Coastal Freighter
-Coastal Tanker
-Collier
-Tug

[Steiner88]

very good, nice:)

[rod_oil]

Thanks. Next I would like to use this hull for several other types of light units, if possible:

-German ASW Trawler
-German Flak Ship (Small)
-British ASW Trawler - Escort Variant (more DC racks and fewer guns)
-British AA Ship (Small)
-Coastal Freighter
-Coastal Tanker
-Collier
-Tug

Wow! Sir, its incredible!:up: :up: :up:
BTW hows pass Merchant Fleet Pack development? I dont know news bout it since ur last PM to me. I still test 1.2 Beta but its nothing to report, sir, coz all bugs and flaws which I discover was mention here on subsim by many other testers.

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

Did u change somthing in sh4 effects for sh3 or not?
Needles too sey u doing a fantastic job :up:

[HundertzehnGustav]

heh i ll take the AAA ships!:D

[denis_469]

Amazing job done here iambecomelife ! :rock:
The realease will be like a wonderful gift
You are really talented amigo :up:

Barbac

Thanks. Next I would like to use this hull for several other types of light units, if possible:

-German ASW Trawler
-German Flak Ship (Small)
-British ASW Trawler - Escort Variant (more DC racks and fewer guns)
-British AA Ship (Small)
-Coastal Freighter
-Coastal Tanker
-Collier
-Tug

What about soviet armed trawlers?

[iambecomelife]

Did u change somthing in sh4 effects for sh3 or not?
Needles too sey u doing a fantastic job :up:

I am using the Low Detail 8KM version of OLC's mod.



What about soviet armed trawlers?

It should be simple to create them too. Any pictures would be helpful.

I am still working on the Merchant Fleet Mod; I just wanted to try something different for a while. These may be released along with the MFM.

[rod_oil]

For example, sir:
Soviet armed trawler "Zarya" ("The Dawn")
http://vmk.vif2.ru/battles/WWII/tuman/images/pic1.jpg

Soviet fishing trawler type Vaer:
http://vmk.vif2.ru/battles/WWII/tuman/images/pic2.jpg
Soviet coast monitor Project-161:
http://commi.narod.ru/bmc/mk1ka/ka25i.jpg

[iambecomelife]

Excellent! That's just the type of drawing that I wanted. :up:

[iambecomelife]

Additional work on the Large ASW Trawler. It's a small ship, but pretty large for a trawler of the era. I was surprised to find out that some of them were about as well armed as a Corvette.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2182008-03-1806_28_30.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2232008-03-1806_33_01.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2242008-03-1806_33_26.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2252008-03-1806_34_15.jpg

[iambecomelife]

The German Large Flak Ship is almost complete. I may change the armament before release. If any one has recommendations about how an AAA ship of this size would have been armed, I'd like to hear from you. :hmm:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2222008-03-1806_30_53.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2202008-03-1806_29_24.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/iambecomelife/MWSnap2212008-03-1806_30_10.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Nice http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9026/wolfthumbsuprw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[bigboywooly]

Not sure what your tonnage is there Iam for the Ge AA

The Nymphe

Size (Max): 3858 t
Length (Total): 92,85 m
Length (Waterline): 85,03 m
Beam: 14,78 m
Draft: 5,38 m

Weapons
10,5 cm Flak: 6
4 cm Flak: 2
2 cm MG: 14

The Undine

Size (Max): 4371 t
Length (Total): 96,60 m
Length (Waterline):
Beam: 15,13
Draft: 5,79

Weapons
10,5 cm Flak: 8
4 cm Flak: 5
2 cm MG: 16

The Medusa

Size (Max): 2657 t
Length (Total): 105,00 m
Length (Waterline): 104,40 m
Beam: 12,30 m
Draft: 5,00 m

Weapons
10,5 cm Flak: 5
3,7 cm: 2
2 cm MG: 4

The Arcona

Size (Max): 2657 t
Length (Total): 105,00 m
Length (Waterline): 104,40 m
Beam: 12,30 m
Draft: 5,00 m

Weapons
10,5 cm Flak: 4
4 cm: 2
2 cm MG: 6

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/aabattery/index.html

[LordNeuro"Serbia"]

I m sorry but me english is wery bed as u cann see. I meant on the nomber of dead bodys frmo boat . And i must say u r full of inspiration and will too make great adons, and make comunty rech. Thx for hard work u r investing too make r game beter.:up:

[HundertzehnGustav]

The German Large Flak Ship is almost complete. I may change the armament before release. If any one has recommendations about how an AAA ship of this size would have been armed, I'd like to hear from you. :hmm:


i would like to see
GWX 2.1
1939 GE20mmssingles and 37mmsingles and maybe an 3 inch cannon.
1940 a mix of single 20mm and twin 20mm, single 37mm and a 3 inch cannon
from 42 on; double 37ers with double 20mm, and the 127mm cannon from the Raubtier Class Torpedoboat
from 1943 on, twin 20mm, and the twin 37ers replaced with 20mm Quads.

BUT- and that is a real blower :damn: :damn: :damn:
The GWX twin 37ers and the quad 20mm are not working properly. YET.

so for now:

GWX2
to 1941:
single 20mms, single 37mms and a 3 inch up front or so.
to 1943
twin 20mms and british Guns
to 1945
twin 20mms and british guns, maybe even that 8xpompom monster.:cry:

[Barbac]

Hi folks,

@ iambecomelife
I can see all the ongoing projects about new merchants fleet which sound really great and therefore 2 thumbs up for your graphic skills friendo :up: :up:
I have understood that almost everything will be included in the coming GWX update 2.1 but is there any of your ships previously created that can already be added in my running GWX2.0 as they will not be in 2.1 ? Another way to ask you if until now I have missed something :smug:

Thx and congrats !
Barbac

[Jimbuna]

Hi folks,

@ iambecomelife
I can see all the ongoing projects about new merchants fleet which sound really great and therefore 2 thumbs up for your graphic skills friendo :up: :up:
I have understood that almost everything will be included in the coming GWX update 2.1 but is there any of your ships previously created that can already be added in my running GWX2.0 as they will not be in 2.1 ? Another way to ask you if until now I have missed something :smug:

Thx and congrats !
Barbac

I'm not aware that IAL's ships will be included in GWX2.1.....but believe that (subject to his permission) may be made into a compatable addon sometime in the future. :hmm:

[Barbac]

Morning Jimbuna,

My bad ! I thought I had read somewhere before that some iambecomelife' ships would be someway included in the next 2.1 update.
So except for the ships (cargos, liners etc ...) already included in GWX2.0, are there any new modeled ships that can be added ?

Btw thx
Barbac

[Jimbuna]

Morning Jimbuna,

My bad ! I thought I had read somewhere before that some iambecomelife' ships would be someway included in the next 2.1 update.
So except for the ships (cargos, liners etc ...) already included in GWX2.0, are there any new modeled ships that can be added ?

Btw thx
Barbac

I think there are a good many ships that CAN be added....but that will be down to certain individuals after the release of 2.1 http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[iambecomelife]

The German Large Flak Ship is almost complete. I may change the armament before release. If any one has recommendations about how an AAA ship of this size would have been armed, I'd like to hear from you. :hmm:


i would like to see
GWX 2.1
1939 GE20mmssingles and 37mmsingles and maybe an 3 inch cannon.
1940 a mix of single 20mm and twin 20mm, single 37mm and a 3 inch cannon
from 42 on; double 37ers with double 20mm, and the 127mm cannon from the Raubtier Class Torpedoboat
from 1943 on, twin 20mm, and the twin 37ers replaced with 20mm Quads.

BUT- and that is a real blower :damn: :damn: :damn:
The GWX twin 37ers and the quad 20mm are not working properly. YET.

so for now:

GWX2
to 1941:
single 20mms, single 37mms and a 3 inch up front or so.
to 1943
twin 20mms and british Guns
to 1945
twin 20mms and british guns, maybe even that 8xpompom monster.:cry:

Thanks for the armament info. BTW, did the Germans use AA ships early in the war? I was under the impression that they weren't used until the strategic bombing campaign began to intensify around 1942.

FYI I am probably going to reclassify the trawlers as "large trawlers" and "fish processors" because they are larger than I thought. The AA ship model is also being used to design a coastal transport/small passenger ship. I am aiming for a Thursday/Friday release of these vessels.

[bigboywooly]

Have told you before HunterG

The Ge AA guns are fixed in GWX 2.1

Iam
See my post about 8 up
Gives a link to a page with Ge AA ships on :up:

[HundertzehnGustav]

Hey BBW
you told me you folks had the twin 37er "in the workshop":hmm: , last i heard 4 weeks ago.
that they are done and ready for issue to the shipyards is new to me, and a GREAT relief, one of these YESSSSSSSSSS moments.:rock:
Lets call the RAF for some Barbecue now. Rotten Flying bastards, aint they.:lol:

I shall stop Nagging now, and present You and "da Crew" my humble apologies.



as for the earlywar armament... depends. This Flakship will probably only be used from 42 on, but could it not represent a british Flak-Trap in Convoys? Do i not remember that subject from a long time ago?