Moderator bio

[Linton]

I think it may help a few people if we had a bio on some of the moderators especially in this forum.Is Takeda Shingen our moderator really a Japanese man of over 400 years of age? I would like to know more of the man behind the mask so that I can evaluate his moderating decisions.Sometimes he does not always walk the middle road and he has a strong Victorian idea of what is prurient.
My initial impressio is that he is also very pro-German and anti-British.

[Tchocky]

This a joke?

[FIREWALL]

Become a Moderator and everyting will become clear ... grasshopper.:rotfl:

[Letum]

I disagree.
This is not necessary, the forum is not a democracy or a public service.

[Jimbuna]

http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img233/1673/adminwatch2af0.gif

[Linton]

I disagree.I think a little biographical information is usefull especially for new joiners.

[Letum]

I disagree.I think a little biographical information is usefull especially for new joiners.
Why?

So they can judge the moderators?

What kind of criteria do you think they should be judged upon?
Nationality? Age? Education?

I am happy just to judge them on their actions as moderators.

[Linton]

If I was a moderator,which incidentally I believe is the kiss of death on this part of the forum,I would have a sticky with my biographical details and a short note covering my ethos.This would allow new visitors to see something of me and my position as moderator.I would try to be impartial at all times and maintain a detachment over all the issues that are raised.I would not have a personal opinion.I would offer encouragement to those that are being unfairly flamed and douse the heat of those that try to do this.

[Letum]

If I was a moderator [...] I would have a sticky with my biographical details and a short note covering my ethos. This would allow new visitors to see something of me and my position as moderator.

Why? how would that help anyone? What would it achieve?

Curiosity is not a good enough reason.

[Wolfehunter]

Personally I have to disagree with you Linton. Why would I want to know about moderators personal life?:nope: :-? Why does anyone need to know how many dogs or cats they own?:lol: Jezz man if anyone wants to date go to the bar.;) :rotfl: :()1:I hear theres plenty of hot babes to get to know if you know what I mean. hehehe.:smug: :|\\

[Linton]

Personally I have to disagree with you Linton. Why would I want to know about moderators personal life?:nope: :-? Why does anyone need to know how many dogs or cats they own?:lol: Jezz man if anyone wants to date go to the bar.;) :rotfl: :()1:I hear theres plenty of hot babes to get to know if you know what I mean. hehehe.:smug: :|\\
Who are you??A new person would be asking the same of the moderators in any part of this forum!!What I am suggesting is merely a polite introduction.Something that gentlemen do when they first meet.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Seems kind of silly to me. Moderators need to be able to do their job without question, kind of like military officers giving orders...or forum discipline is nonexistant. As was said before, this isn't a democracy. Understanding why the mods locked/edited your thread just isn't part of the process.

PD

[Tchocky]

A silly idea. Moderators are beings at the edge of things, to stop us falling off.

Also, there's a certain amount of private data that you have to hand over to SUBSIM at the beginning, namely an email address. That should be it.

[Wolfehunter]

Linton relax I'm not attacking you. Just some cheezy humour. Yet it is a little strange to know people personal lives.. If anyone is curious about someone ask in PM.:up:

[STEED]

Your all going in to my little Black book. ;)

[Linton]

I do not want to know a mod's inside leg measurment!I want to know he is passionate about gaming and above all fair.If he has a naval background or has special knowledge I want to know as well.Unfortunately you have all taken this the wrong way and I must offer you this quote:
"A gentleman is a man who can disagree without being disagreeable."

[Letum]

but why?

[Wolfehunter]

:p Ok Steed write this down. 666 Elm's Street, Helltown, Hell, 96669zip, phone number is 555-666-9666:huh: :rotfl:Now I'm in your Black book.:yep:

[Linton]

but why? See me after class and I will explain it in words of one syllable or pictures.

[Letum]

but why? See me after class and I will explain it in words of one syllable or pictures.

"A gentleman is a man who can disagree without being disagreeable."

Take a leaf from your own book and do not patronise people.


I still do not know why. Is it just curiosity?

[STEED]

:p Ok Steed write this down. 666 Elm's Street, Helltown, Hell, 96669zip, phone number is 555-666-9666:huh: :rotfl:Now I'm in your Black book.:yep:

For that your highlighted in Red and underlined. :stare:

Better add a Red cross as well. ;)

[STEED]

The one person this tread is about happens not to be here to voice his opinion. :yep:

Your all going around in circles but feel free to continual.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Everyone knows the vast majority of my life anyway :lol:

[kiwi_2005]

Become a Moderator and everyting will become clear ... grasshopper.:rotfl:

:)...

Well i got asked on a kiwi site to be a moderator i kinda freaked out as i was not expecting it at all, they wanted a moderator that wasn't into wild debates and arguments - besides whats the point l always come out the loser in arguments anyways :)

Anyways abit worried about moderatoring a site with 40,000+ members but only a few hundred using the forums i thought the best place to get some good advice and tips was from the subsim moderators so thats what i did. I PM one and this is the wise words i got:yep:

KP might like to read it too.


First, let me officially welcome you to the global brotherhood of moderators. The paddling will come later. :p I had a real advantage when I started on <snip> because I had moderated for Neal on several different forums over the past few years. I knew what he liked and how he wanted his boards moderated. That should be the first thing. Either observe the webmaster in action, or ask him what how he wants things approached. Moderation is like being between two parties: The Webmaster and the members. You have to keep both satisfied while maintaining order. It is a tricky tightrope. You won't always be able to keep the members happy, but you must always keep the Webmaster on your side, as all of your authority will, ultimately, stem from him. As it relates to SubSim, I am powerless without Neal, just as you will be without your webmaster.

With the members, you have to let them get to know your style. One of the biggest problems that I have is that I had when I took over <snip> was that I approached it as though they already knew me as a moderator. This was a mistake. Everything changes when you get that little asterix next to your name. Your friends will drift away, and you will be regarded as the cop; an outsider and one not to be trusted. I did the worst possible thing: To go in there like gangbusters on my first big flare-up, and I got egg all over my face. I toned down the rhetoric and got much better results. Once they get used to you, you'll only have to post the occassional 'Hey knock it off', and the members will respond. Really, I only lock threads as a last resort.

Moderators on SubSim do not have the direct power of suspension. I can enforce a 24-hour ban, but that is it. All of our brig time and bans must be appealed through Neal. I prefer this system, but if you have the power to ban, be sure to use it only as a last, last resort, and have a clear and systematic system of warnings in place to cover yourself. No issue is more contentious.

Finally, be aware that moderation is a lonely job. As I said before, you will be stuck in the no-man's-land between the webmaster and the members. You will lose a lot of friends, and you will not be able to participate in the discussions like you used to. You have to really like the website to do the job. Otherwise, you will start to wonder what you are doing there in the first place.

[TteFAboB]

I think it would work the other way around. People would look at their bio and explain the mod's actions by it, claiming unfairness and imbalance towards members with different bios.

[Onkel Neal]

Become a Moderator and everyting will become clear ... grasshopper.:rotfl:

:)...

Well i got asked on a kiwi site to be a moderator i kinda freaked out as i was not expecting it at all, they wanted a moderator that wasn't into wild debates and arguments - besides whats the point l always come out the loser in arguments anyways :)

Anyways abit worried about moderatoring a site with 40,000+ members but only a few hundred using the forums i thought the best place to get some good advice and tips was from the subsim moderators so thats what i did. I PM one and this is the wise words i got:yep:

KP might like to read it too.


First, let me officially welcome you to the global brotherhood of moderators. The paddling will come later. :p I had a real advantage when I started on <snip> because I had moderated for Neal on several different forums over the past few years. I knew what he liked and how he wanted his boards moderated. That should be the first thing. Either observe the webmaster in action, or ask him what how he wants things approached. Moderation is like being between two parties: The Webmaster and the members. You have to keep both satisfied while maintaining order. It is a tricky tightrope. You won't always be able to keep the members happy, but you must always keep the Webmaster on your side, as all of your authority will, ultimately, stem from him. As it relates to SubSim, I am powerless without Neal, just as you will be without your webmaster.

With the members, you have to let them get to know your style. One of the biggest problems that I have is that I had when I took over <snip> was that I approached it as though they already knew me as a moderator. This was a mistake. Everything changes when you get that little asterix next to your name. Your friends will drift away, and you will be regarded as the cop; an outsider and one not to be trusted. I did the worst possible thing: To go in there like gangbusters on my first big flare-up, and I got egg all over my face. I toned down the rhetoric and got much better results. Once they get used to you, you'll only have to post the occassional 'Hey knock it off', and the members will respond. Really, I only lock threads as a last resort.

Moderators on SubSim do not have the direct power of suspension. I can enforce a 24-hour ban, but that is it. All of our brig time and bans must be appealed through Neal. I prefer this system, but if you have the power to ban, be sure to use it only as a last, last resort, and have a clear and systematic system of warnings in place to cover yourself. No issue is more contentious.

Finally, be aware that moderation is a lonely job. As I said before, you will be stuck in the no-man's-land between the webmaster and the members. You will lose a lot of friends, and you will not be able to participate in the discussions like you used to. You have to really like the website to do the job. Otherwise, you will start to wonder what you are doing there in the first place.


Yep, every board needs moderation, and no one likes to be told to ease up. The moderators here and me try to use a light touch, acting only when necessary, as best we can judge. We're not perfect and we cannot make everyone happy all the time, but with the cooperation of the members here, we've earned a solid reputation as a good, civil, and fun community.

As for moderators listing their "biographical information", I think everyone should use their real names and list their true background. :ping: What have they got to hide? I'm always amused at some people who worry their real name will get publicized :lol: So, what?

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Someone mentioned paddles *shifty eyes*

Ah you see! I'm everywhere! :rotfl:

[Stealth Hunter]

I disagree.
This is not necessary, the forum is not a democracy or a public service.

And saying that to a newbie gives them the impression that it's a new Forum Reich, not a fun place to be. Can kill a web site quicker than anything, save for the old users who've always been there.

[Sailor Steve]

Everyone knows the vast majority of my life anyway :lol:
There's so little of it so far, what's not to know?

You were born, you grew up, you fell in love. That seems to be about it.

[Jimbuna]

Someone mentioned paddles *shifty eyes*

Ah you see! I'm everywhere! :rotfl:

Here....you can have mine.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8631/eyes0153fqqp8.gif (http://imageshack.us).........................http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8631/eyes0153fqqp8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Konovalov]

My opinion is that this is a bad and ill-advised idea. Theres my 2 pence.

[TDK1044]

The subsim Moderators are by far the best out there in my view. I was honored to take the role when offered to me by Neal, and I've just had to step down due to real life getting in the way.....for now anyway.

Neal selects the Moderators. This is his house. The criteria he uses is based on his sense of what's needed in a Forum in order to keep it a place where all can flourish and take part in useful and sometimes spirited discussion.

Sometimes, a member may feel that a Moderator is not being fair to them in some way. On those occasions, if you take a time out and then look at the issue in its entirety in the cold light of day, you'll see that the Moderator wasn't as unfair as you thought he was.

There's a fine line between spirited discussion and a thread getting out of control and off topic. The Moderators walk that line every day. If you want to see how good the subsim moderators are, check out some other Forums. :D

[STEED]

And now we bring you more of the same, over to the next poster. :lol:

[HunterICX]

A moderator Bio?

Ok here is mine

Photo:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ranks/diehard.jpg

Name: HunterICX
Location: Malaga, Spain
Occupation: Moderator of the Helo/Flightsim section
Born: 23th of April
Years in moderating service: almost a year now
Amount of closed thread: Lost the count :88)
Amount of Suspension and bans given out: You may be the first ;)
Main interest : Flight sims and other World war 2 simulations
Homepage: www.subsim.com (http://www.subsim.com)

HunterICX

[STEED]

That's about as exciting as a wet weekend in Manchester. :lol:

[Tchocky]

Wet indoors or out? ;)

[STEED]

Wet indoors or out? ;)

Lol :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


I would put a a tenner on out doors. :lol:

[GlobalExplorer]

I remember TakedaShingen made a short post on the sticky thread with the regulars bios.

I only remember that in real life he is a school teacher which .. fits!

[AVGWarhawk]

You do not want to know my bios unless you are looking to fall asleep:oops:

[Jimbuna]

You do not want to know my bios unless you are looking to fall asleep:oops:

That's understandable....we've all seen your picture :lol:

;)

[GlobalExplorer]

did I not get a joke here?

[TDK1044]

THe OP's lucky that Gizzmoe isn't around any more. The response would have been two words, and one of them would have been "off". :D

[AVGWarhawk]

You do not want to know my bios unless you are looking to fall asleep:oops:
That's understandable....we've all seen your picture :lol:

;)

And there you have it! :D How easy was that??? Thanks Jimbuna!

[Jimbuna]

A moderator Bio?

Ok here is mine

Photo:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ranks/diehard.jpg

Name: HunterICX
Location: Malaga, Spain
Occupation: Moderator of the Helo/Flightsim section
Born: 23th of April
Years in moderating service: almost a year now
Amount of closed thread: Lost the count :88)
Amount of Suspension and bans given out: You may be the first ;)
Main interest : Flight sims and other World war 2 simulations
Homepage: www.subsim.com (http://www.subsim.com)

HunterICX

Dear Hunter (I shall not post your real name in a public forum)....mate :up:

There is sooooooooooooo much I could add to the above that would be of entertainment value to so many on this forum :lol:

When I think back to some of the challenges you have laid before me over on the TS server I can truthfully say.......I'm bloody glad your not in The Lair because I suspect you would have been a stern test of my moderating abilities :hmm:

I cannot begin to imagine how I would cope.....Dowly is usually controllable, but the two of you together would make for a very interesting mixture indeed :rotfl:

Oh....and BTW.....I've probably laid myself open to some right flack now :doh:

Cya tonight, usual time mate (divvun ferget to wake Dowly and Kratos up) :sunny:

[STEED]

BTW.....I've probably laid myself open to some right flack now :doh:

Read all about jim in Brags new book.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9670/booksi9.jpg

[Brag]

I don't need to know who the moderators are, nor their backgrounds as long as they don't mess with my smoking habit. :|\\

[geetrue]

I think Linton just wanted to bring Takeda out of his stealth mode ...

By the way spearfish your blog is not real heavy with bio information.

I thought you were a libarian in the UK, right?

Here's Tak's bio ... I've known of him for nine years in fact he was here
when I got here in 99 waiting for SH II ...

I can tell you one thing I've found about him ... He is very smart and would've made a great officer on submarines.



Join Date: 03-14-2000

Age:
31 Biography:
Dual-major Music Performance/Composition. Masters in Education. Ph.D Musicology. Location:
Allentown, Pa, USA Interests:
Literature, Aikido, Musicology, History, Chess, Cycling, Photography, Submarines Occupation:
University Professor Favorite subsim game:
Janes 688(i)

Takeda Shingen is not a member of any public groups

What is a public group by the way ... Sub Club is the only one I knew of ...

[RickC Sniper]

Geetrue go into your control panel here at Subsim. You will find:

The following groups are available for you to join
Subsim Crew Contributors of book & game reviews, artwork, and articles for Subsim. If you want to be a contributor, contact Neal Stevens (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/private.php?do=newpm&u=209959)before joining.
Requests to join must be approved by a group leader.
Group leaders: Subsim Admin (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=1)

[Takeda Shingen]

He is very smart and would've made a great officer on submarines.

That is one of the highest compliments that I have ever been paid. I thank you.

You can read my bio in my profile and in the bio thread. Also, Kiwi did not want to say so as per ettiquite, which I appreciate, but I will reveal that the quoted text is mine.

More effective than moderator bios would be member bios. After all, new members will spend more time interacting with the general membership than they will the moderators. Thus, the individual could get the name of that guy that flamed them, look up the bio, and decide for themselves whether or not to respond based on personal preference and ideology. It would lighten my work load. :p Of course, then we would have nothing buy 100 pages of member bios, and room for no discussion. Maybe not such a great idea after all.

[Linton]

"I thought you were a librarian in the UK, right?"
That must be somebody else you are thinking of.I have always been driver airframes.
Did you like my blog?
I would like to see our moderator take a less anti anglo-saxon attitude and more of a Swiss roll!!!!
http://www.touchsouthampton.com/media/business/2373982/swiss%20roll.jpg

[Linton]

"Of course, then we would have nothing buy 100 pages of member bios, and room for no discussion. Maybe not such a great idea after all."
This aspect is already covered by the sticky at the top of the page and was not what I was suggesting.Interesting information on Hunter has appeared.Who of you knew that Bill Nicholls served on Nautilus?

[Letum]

"I thought you were a librarian in the UK, right?"
That must be somebody else you are thinking of.I have always been driver airframes.
Did you like my blog?
I would like to see our moderator take a less anti Anglo-Saxon attitude and more of a Swiss roll!!!!

Anglo-Saxons?!

The Anglo-Saxon traditions ended a few hundred years after the Norman invasion of
1066 and the Anglo-Saxon gene pool is indistinct in England and makes up only a tiny
proportion of the country, the mainly Anglo Saxons areas in 1066 and before being
confined mainly to the South and East of England and acounting for a fraction of the total population.

If it is true that the admins don't like Anglo-Saxons, I demand to know if they also
dislike Jutes, Bemicians, Britons, Celts, Surreymen and all other past peoples.

Anyway, didn't you say they where Pro-German?
Anti Saxon and pro German? :doh:

[Linton]

Letum you must really learn to keep control of your emotions.
What would you call us?I see you are from York so are you a Viking or a Scot?I am a Celt by the way.

[Letum]

Letum you must really learn to keep control of your emotions.
What would you call us?I see you are from York so are you a Viking or a Scot?I am a Celt by the way.
My Nationality is British
My Country is English
My race is white European
My heritage is German, Scottish, Hebrew and English

(is this going in your data base?)

The Vikings and Scots no longer exist and it is almost impossible for the vast majority to claim heritage from the. People travel around and the world has become too much of a small place for a long time for that.

[AVGWarhawk]

more of a Swiss roll!!!!

Nah, I'm tired of the Swiss rolls. I'm a Dunkin Donuts fan so I'll have the Boston Cremes or perhaps a jelly donut. It is all part of my comprhensive weight loss plan. Oh, I need a large coffee as well. Thank you:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Bill Nicholls served on Nautilus?

I did:D

[Linton]

I would try telling Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond that the Scots do not exist and you might be in for a shock!OK I will rephrase it and say I find the moderator is occasionally anti-british and this is the only posture against another countries citizens I have ever seen him take.

[AVGWarhawk]

the moderator

Which one?:hmm:

[Venatore]

My thinking is that if you are a member of Subsim you have agreed to the terms and conditions of this site.

So for me I think its a case that each and everyone of us are moderators, if you see something happening that you believe to be against what this community stands for then you should inform the person/s responsible of their obligation to withdraw comments, pictures or gestures that are against Subsims terms.

If you have no joy then you simply move it up the chain of command - official moderator who has the ability to close posts/threads, keel haul, or in extreme cases ban.

But for me they are a good source of help and information and I have used them on many occasions to help with my account/faults with posting etc.

I think they should remain silent and let their actions do the talking.

[Letum]

I would try telling Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond that the Scots do not exist and you might be in for a shock!OK I will rephrase it and say I find the moderator is occasionally anti-british and this is the only posture against another countries citizens I have ever seen him take.
well yes, the Scots still exsist as a distinct genetic group, but that is distinct from the Scottish, like Brown, who may or may not also be a Scot.


Can you give quotes for the anti-British thing?
I haven't seen it my self, but if you can provide evidence I will stay open minded.


Talking about modderators, what happend to Wastegate?

[AVGWarhawk]

the moderator

Which one?:hmm:

Well, I'm guessing it is not me because I say anti-things about everybody. I'm a firm believer in equality.

[John Channing]

I think everyone should use their real names and list their true background. :ping: What have they got to hide? I'm always amused at some people who worry their real name will get publicized :lol: So, what?

Well that's just crazy talk, I tell yah.... crazy talk.

What kinda lunatic would use their real name on the internet? You would just be askin' fer trouble.

JCC

[Jimbuna]

I think everyone should use their real names and list their true background. :ping: What have they got to hide? I'm always amused at some people who worry their real name will get publicized :lol: So, what?

Well that's just crazy talk, I tell yah.... crazy talk.

What kinda lunatic would use their real name on the internet? You would just be askin' fer trouble.

JCC

Precisely....not even John erm...Marion Wayne used his real name :p

[Dowly]

Dowly is usually controllable, but the two of you together would make for a very interesting mixture indeed :rotfl:

Interesting means good in this case, right? Yeh.. it has to mean (Come oon Dowly, keep convincing your self!). :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

I think everyone should use their real names and list their true background. :ping: What have they got to hide? I'm always amused at some people who worry their real name will get publicized :lol: So, what?

Well that's just crazy talk, I tell yah.... crazy talk.

What kinda lunatic would use their real name on the internet? You would just be askin' fer trouble.

JCC

Yes, true, true... especially if they used their real name on the Internet over a period a ten years or more. Could you imagine the loss of privacy? The burden of actually standing behind one's remarks?

[Jimbuna]

Dowly is usually controllable, but the two of you together would make for a very interesting mixture indeed :rotfl:

Interesting means good in this case, right? Yeh.. it has to mean (Come oon Dowly, keep convincing your self!). :yep:

Just don't stop taking the medicine :lol:

Signed
jimbuna (Dlamini-Zuma, Nkosazana)

[geetrue]

My thinking is that if you are a member of Subsim you have agreed to the terms and conditions of this site.

So for me I think its a case that each and everyone of us are moderators, if you see something happening that you believe to be against what this community stands for then you should inform the person/s responsible of their obligation to withdraw comments, pictures or gestures that are against Subsims terms.


I think they (mods) should remain silent and let their actions do the talking.

I agree we should be more helpful to the mods and I think in many ways we are ...

We should also be kind to the newbies, before Sailor Steve gets hold of them on their spelling and grammer ... just kidding.

The Navy had a way of taking care of the weaker sailors, especially on submarines, just make fun of them till they change.

But that was in person, not a message board where people are even more easily offended ...

Lets try not to cause a grudge that sticks in people's backs till they explode ... I've seen that happen before.

One guy on the USS Ethan Allen had a girlfriends picture on the wall of his bunk, like many sailors do ...

He use to brag about her and talk about her even though she was not that attractive.

One of the sonarman had to wake this guy up for his watch and noticed the picture of the girl he had always been bragging about.

The sonar tech gently lifts the picture and frames it with a toilet seat that he found in the supply cache between the missile tubes.

He then hangs the picture in sonar and waits for the poor unsuspecting sailor to come through the door.

SSBN's had their own sonar room in those days ...

The guy comes in see's the picture and explodes ... real anger too.

The two sonar tech's got seperated and never made another patrol together again.

You got to learn how to handle yourself, roll with the punches ... what better place than a submarine or a subsim forum to do it in?

A foxhole would be too late with the other man having a weapon too ... that would be scary.

[TDK1044]

You know, none of the Moderators want to intervene in any thread. To a large degree, subsim moderates itself. The vast majority of the members here are here for the right reasons and they engage in positive, constructive dialogue......a few have personal agendas. Personal agendas usually lead to personal attacks, and that's the point where a Moderator will step in.

[STEED]

You know, none of the Moderators want to intervene in any thread. To a large degree, subsim moderates itself. The vast majority of the members here are here for the right reasons and they engage in positive, constructive dialogue......a few have personal agendas. Personal agendas usually lead to personal attacks, and that's the point where a Moderator will step in.

And what book did that quote come from? :roll:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

You know, none of the Moderators want to intervene in any thread. To a large degree, subsim moderates itself. The vast majority of the members here are here for the right reasons and they engage in positive, constructive dialogue......a few have personal agendas. Personal agendas usually lead to personal attacks, and that's the point where a Moderator will step in.
And what book did that quote come from? :roll:


The one on the shelf called "STEED needs to be a good boy and take these things to heart"

(its a bit dusty)

;):rotfl::rotfl:

[STEED]

You know, none of the Moderators want to intervene in any thread. To a large degree, subsim moderates itself. The vast majority of the members here are here for the right reasons and they engage in positive, constructive dialogue......a few have personal agendas. Personal agendas usually lead to personal attacks, and that's the point where a Moderator will step in.
And what book did that quote come from? :roll:


The one on the shelf called "STEED needs to be a good boy and take these things to heart"

(its a bit dusty)

;):rotfl::rotfl:

Go Spin. :p :p :p :p :p

[Jimbuna]

:roll: .................:oops:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4571/spinningmh1.gif (http://imageshack.us)http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8562/wetornadohl2sl7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Dowly]

Someday, Jim, those smileys will get they revenge on all the things you've made them do for our amusement. Sleep well! :yep:

[STEED]

:roll: .................:oops:

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Watching KP go round and round and round is making me giddy. :lol:

[Jimbuna]

Someday, Jim, those smileys will get they revenge on all the things you've made them do for our amusement. Sleep well! :yep:

....and you matey :up:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Watching KP go round and round and round is making me giddy. :lol:

*sings* "You spin me right round baby, right round, like a record baby right round round round" :rock::rock:

[STEED]

Watching KP go round and round and round is making me giddy. :lol:

*sings* "You spin me right round baby, right round, like a record baby right round round round" :rock::rock:

@KP

Don't give up your day job. :lol:

[Sailor Steve]

Precisely....not even John erm...Marion Wayne used his real name :p
You mean Marion Michael Morrison? And what about Archie Leach? Ramon Estevez? How about that famous British actress Joyce Penelope Wilhelmina Frankenberg?

My real name is well hidden and will never be revealed...except to anyone who reads the 'How Did You Find Subsim' thread.:rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

...grammer...
:nope:




Gotcha!:rotfl: