sh4 is completey freezing up

[Lt commander lare]

hello im in serious trouble i just bought the graphics card nvidia 8600 gt and upgraded the power supply and now after like 6 mins of play with 1.5 installed and the rsrdc added the screen and dials and everything change color and the computer is completley frozen wont shut down nothing just frozen can anyone help me with this should i get rid of this grahpics card i had no problems with my ati radeon x1600 pro

lt commander lare

[MONOLITH]

Sorry, but of course I have to ask....

You did get the latest Nvidia drivers from the nvidia website, yes? Not the ones on the disc that came with the card.

[Lt commander lare]

yes i downloaded them from nvidia is there something im doing wrong i never had this problem before

lt commander lare

[Lt commander lare]

is there anybody here that can help im desperate to play the game

lt commander lare

[MONOLITH]

I know you said you upgraded your power supply, but did you get a big enough PSU to accomodate both the card and everything else on your PC?

Even after upgrading my PSU when installing my X1950 Pro, it wouldn't run, because there wasn't enough power to run the new card, and two disc drives, two hard drives, a Physics card, a sound card, etc.


With a brand new card, it's either not enough power, overheating (you did say after 6 minutes of time), or driver conflicts.

[Lt commander lare]

i went from a power supply of 2.79 to 500 watts and the card should handle silent hunter 4 perfectly inst the card I bought an upgrade from the ati raedon x1600 pro because thats what best buy told me


lt commander lare

[Lt commander lare]

how do i resolve the driver conflicts because its not overheating

lt commander lare

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
Try with drivers that came with the card.
also maybe something from ati drivers is still there, and may cause problems.:up:

[Lt commander lare]

ok thanks loading cd drivers now

lt cmdr lare

[MONOLITH]

Hello
also maybe something from ati drivers is still there, and may cause problems.:up:

Yes..did you uninstall the ATI drivers?

[Lt commander lare]

yes and the game is not working at all now as soon as the game starts the whole computer freezes not the game but the whole system no response to anything just frozen like a popsicle

lt commander lare

[Lightning61]

vid cards are notorious for coming with inadequate cooling "out of box".
take the side cover off your case and let a fan blow through.
If no help, clean the entire mobo, ram, cpu heatsink, etc. and reseat all connections.
If you have an SATA drive be very careful the cables are in no bind whatsoever.
I would also do a full vid driver uninstall, including registry entries before going from ATI to NV.
Please don't forget to check your mobo manufacturer for the latest northbridge chipset drivers.

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
Try "safe" mode, then you will use only basic vga driver. and can do maitenance.
or put back in box your working ati card, this way at least you can change drivers etc. :up:

[Lt commander lare]

hi uninstalled the nvidia graphics card and put back my ati radeon x1600 pro how do i make sure that nvidia is completley off my system please help me with this before i retry silent hunter 4 we should be back in business

lt commander lare

[Lt commander lare]

now trying silent hunter 4 ati's way let you know the results thanks for everyones help on this you guys are great and wonderful and its so much appreciated


lt cmdr lare

[vinceor]

Do you have the "Orders_Bar_Al1" mod installed?
If you do, then remove it to see if that is your problem.

vinceor

[MONOLITH]

how do i make sure that nvidia is completley off my system please help me


http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745

[jimbob]

Some tips:

I had trouble with them intro movies in
\Data\Movies\Intro

After deleting them game boots allrite.

That was an issue with some codecs, I've read it somewhere in teh internets.
You may want to move those elsewhere just to test how it goes.

Also, when installing them drivers, using a tool that removes the crap
old drivers leave behind is what I do.

Driver cleaner, or whatever it was called.
I think guru3d (http://guru3d.com/) has it atleast.

:arrgh!:

[jimbob]

Someone beat me to it.

:D

[Lt commander lare]

i installed the ati radeon card x1600 pro and silent hunter 4 is back up and running just fine it was the graphics card not any of the mods i just completed a patrol


WARNING !!!!!!! CURRENT GRAPHIC CARD LOOKERS STICK WITH ATI DO NOT GO TO NVIDIA IT REALLY SUCKS WITH SH4 thanks again for everyones help with this

lt commander lare

[jimbob]

NVIDIA IT REALLY SUCKS WITH SH4
lt commander lare

Got 8800GTX and no problems here.
Apart from that codec issue...

;)

[Doolittle81]

8800GTX 768Mb card here and also no problems...

[Digital_Trucker]

7800GS (AGP) here and no problems either

[Slick Wilhelm]

I'm glad you're back up and running, LCL. But you made a huge leap in logic in declaring that all nVidia video cards are crap, or don't work with SH4.

It could be, that

A) The video card you got was defective(hey, it happens)

B) Your new power supply is not of sufficient quality or watts to handle all the hardware in your case

C) You had some sort of driver conflict that was wreaking havoc.

or even

D) You may not have had the new video card properly seated in the bus.

The only reason I bothered posting is that someone may find this post in a search, and maybe the possibilities I listed above might help them.

Anyway, I'm happy that you're back up & running. Sink'em all! :sunny:

[Lt commander lare]

your right slick i did make a huge leap and i shouldnt have said that and i aplogize for saying it i just could not believe why it wouldnt work on my system and i was frustrated and thats not how a lt cmdr acts im now putting myself on latrine duty

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

We are not done yet. Did you remove all of ATI stuff? Did you do a complete file and folder search for ATI left overs? You might be surprised. I think 3DGuru has a progam to remove all ATI related files. I was running a X1300. I went and purchased the Nvidia 7800 GS. I had to remove hidden left overs from ATI. I was also running it with a 350 watt power supply. I would say your power supply is not the issue. I would say, bad card or conflict in drivers. Go find the removal tool of all ATI drivers. Then find the tool to remove all Nvidia drivers....I think it is called Driver Detonator. You can also do this I think in the device manager on your computer. Once cleaned up, load the current driver and see how she goes. Go to 3DGuru.com. I believe your answers are there.

[ridgewayranger]

Hi,
I have an FX7300LE PCI card, not very powerful by any standards, but I cannot afford the luxury of an upgrade yet, so I O/C'd it to the max, just before artifacts cut in, without increasing voltage, and I'm happy with it. F.P.S. always above 25 and can even use max TC and get 6 FPS. Remember the old saying about the bad workman blaming his tools.
RR

[Lt commander lare]

hi warhawk i uninstalled all ati and nvidia cards and returned the nvidia card and bought the ati radeion HD2600 pro and updated the drivers and sh4 is working perfectly no problems so it was either a driver conflict or bad card the geek squad agents at best buy werent for sure but they feel it was a bad card so i just bought the ati card instead so all is well and i have made several patrols with the last patrol bagging to escort carriers


lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

All is well that ends well as they say:up:

[Lt commander lare]

you bet and i really appreciate you all here im glad im a part of this forum and websight and part of neals fine submariners as well


lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

I will tell you that getting the ATI things off my computer was just a bit nuts. Once done searching files and folders everything seemed to work just find. Send us some screenshots in the screenshots forum of your new improved 3D world.

[Lt commander lare]

hi im registered with photobucket can you tell me how to post screenshots and i will post them

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

Sign in to photo bucket. You will see at the top were you can get the pics off your computer to upload. Also, see option at the top for the size of the pic you want it displayed. Normally 800x600 is good. Click browse and find the pic you want on your computer. Click save and then upload. Once done, keep this page open on the internet. Open another page for Subsim. When you start a post or reply, at the top you see a small pick of two mountains and the sun over it. Click on that, a small window pops up for the link to your picture. Go to the page you have open at photobucket and click on "direct link" under the picture you want. It will copy automatically. Switch back to the Subsim page and paste it to the small window you just created. It takes longer to type this then actually do it :rotfl:

Send as .jpg pics. Normally SH4 saves your screenshots in .BMP form. I just open then with Windows Paint, click save as and make it a .jpg.

[AVGWarhawk]

That worked. Do you have AA turned on?

[Lt commander lare]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-20-12-04.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-20-24-99.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-20-08-60.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-19-49-12.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-19-22-98.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-15-33-33.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1212-15-21-42.jpg


here is the pics you wanted i hope everyone likes them will post more soon

[Lt commander lare]

what is AA

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

Anti Alaising. I noted on your pictures jaggies as they call them. In your ATI card set up, look for AA X2 or X4. This helps clean up the jaggies. Need to fine tune that card you got!

[AVGWarhawk]

Read this for your card set up:up:

http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

[Fish40]

what is AA

lt cmdr lare


Lt. Cmdr.Lare, AA is anti-aliasing. It is a graphic card function which smooths out the "jagged" lines on objects. That's about as basic an explanation you can get:yep:



Oops, AVG you beat me too it. Sorry about that

[Lt commander lare]

where do i go to change this im not real good with graphics cards

lt cmdr lare

[FIREWALL]

Another great How-To Fix that will be lost to posterity that could have been put into a How-To Fix Sticky. :damn:

[Lt commander lare]

got i tweaked it to 8 x from 2x is there anything else i should tweak while i have the settings up that i dont know about

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

where do i go to change this im not real good with graphics cards

lt cmdr lare
When you loaded the driver a CCC(cataylist control center) should have loaded. Go to your programs list off the start button lower left hand corner. Open this progam once found on the list and look for the 3D application. This is were you will find it.


It will look like this when open:

http://www.classicsunveiled.com/blog/aticcc68.png

Very simple tool to tweak your card

[Lt commander lare]

i tweaked averything it should be good to go now going to try it out

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

10-4. Send a pic again. I hope it looks a bit more polished for you now!

[andycaccia]

@ lt cmdr lare

Do not push Anti Aliasing and Anisotropic too much or you will loose FPS.
Best settings are 4X and 8X respectively. keep in mind that the higher is the resolution the lesser is the benefit of having a full power AA.

If you press Ctrl+F8 (or is Shift+F8??) during gameplay a FPS counter will appear in the top of the screen. Press again and it will disappear. It may be useful for a performance check.

Good luck!!

[Lt commander lare]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg320/airwolf716/sh42008-03-1216-24-33-37.jpg

here is the updated pic

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

Now you are looking good :up:. What do you think now is all that matters. So, what do you think? Seems a bit washed out to me. Have you played with the gamma slider in game to get some color to your picture while playing?


BTW, today was a good day for you. Got Photobucket running and got AA working!

[Lt commander lare]

yeah and the color is great i just altered the photo a bit but the game is woring and aa is working great and photobucket is up as well so i will be going on patrol later tonight so i will be in touch take it easy for now

lt cmdr lare

[AVGWarhawk]

Well I will tell you what, I looked at the tweaked card pic again and it looks a 100% better. Time to get the new purchase working like it should:up: