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AVGWarhawk
03-06-08, 08:00 PM
Ok gents, CO2 was never a factor for game play before the add-on. Now CO2 seems to be working. But it is working a bit too good. In other words, the boat never vents. The little icon is cool. Click on it and the boat will surface but the CO2 never gets vented. Anyone here know what the root cause of this is? Repairable?

Ducimus
03-06-08, 08:19 PM
Hardcoded stock issue i think. (honestly id rather it be a mod problem, at least then its fixable)

I'm more interested in finding what makes the problem occur, and to find a workaround. My first shot in the dark GUESS, is loading a game that was saved while submerged?
That is a THEORY, that i hope can be proved true, because then we have a workaround. "(Dont save while submerged)".

If that isn't the case, then we have problem, a big one.

Zantham
03-06-08, 08:36 PM
I had this bug too... I "think" I fixed it by saving surfaced with a different filename, then reloading the new save....
But in case that doesn't work I might have saved it submerged with a new name, then reloading and surfacing...
I'm sorry I can't remember exactly what I did, but it did 'fix' it and I was able to continue on my career (UBM).

Clyde00
03-06-08, 09:34 PM
I've also had this bug several times. I just saved a few times while surfaced, and eventually it loads with the CO2 status as vented.
I've also have gotten this bug while surfaced with rough seas (modified wave amplitude, etc...)

THE_MASK
03-06-08, 09:39 PM
When my CO2 gets to a certain level , the little icon at the top right of the screen will appear with CO2 on it . I click on this and it says "surfacing the boat" . Now my CO2 will expel .

AVGWarhawk
03-06-08, 09:40 PM
It is strange. I'm submerged, my little icon pops up. It shows 10% co2. Ok, no problem. I kept motoring along and surfaced later. No vent. I TC'd but no vent. The icon still showed 10% but the meter on the orders bar kept climbing. I saved at that point but have not restarted yet.

THE_MASK
03-06-08, 09:46 PM
Did you surface by clicking the little CO2 icon up the top right ?

AVGWarhawk
03-06-08, 09:47 PM
Yes, all it did was "surface the boat" but I was already surfaced. I went to PD and then hit the icon again. "surface the boat". Up I went. No vent and no change.

THE_MASK
03-06-08, 09:55 PM
I am just trying to figure it out . Ok , so you pressed the CO2 when already surfaced . Maybe this stuffs something up , i dunno . Maybe try going to PD again and just surface via the menu buttons down the bottom panel . I had to travel for a while for it to vent BTW . It didnt happen straight away .

Anvart
03-07-08, 04:40 AM
Ok gents, CO2 was never a factor for game play before the add-on. Now CO2 seems to be working. But it is working a bit too good. In other words, the boat never vents. The little icon is cool. Click on it and the boat will surface but the CO2 never gets vented. Anyone here know what the root cause of this is? Repairable?
:hmm:
I have no Add-On ...
But in SH4 ver. 1.4 ян2 dial and ventilation work (after adjustment of dial values) ...

AVGWarhawk
03-07-08, 09:53 AM
I am just trying to figure it out . Ok , so you pressed the CO2 when already surfaced . Maybe this stuffs something up , i dunno . Maybe try going to PD again and just surface via the menu buttons down the bottom panel . I had to travel for a while for it to vent BTW . It didnt happen straight away .

I attempted that as well. I TC on the surface all night, the CO2 climbed. Perhaps when the CO2 icon pops up and you finally decide to surface, the icon needs to be clicked so you surface thus venting the boat? Not sure and I will attempt that as well. I'm at about 44% CO2 level now but my men are not turning green so that is a good thing.

Galanti
03-07-08, 01:09 PM
Who in the hell still saves while submerged, after years and thousands of posts regarding the pitfalls of doing so in SH3 AND SH4?

AVGWarhawk
03-07-08, 03:51 PM
Who in the hell still saves while submerged, after years and thousands of posts regarding the pitfalls of doing so in SH3 AND SH4?
Other than Zantham who MIGHT have saved submerged, no one else here who is experiencing this saved submerged. Read the posts Galanit. BTW, I have saved submerged plenty of times in SH4 without any ill effects.

Zantham
03-07-08, 04:28 PM
I have saved submerged plenty of times in SH4 without any ill effects.

As have I, many many times, inside of convoys, taskforces, wherever. I've not had the CO2 bug since, and I've logged a lot of hours on this game. The one time it happened to me was pretty much right when I got it, I think I had alt-tabbed out and back in. I just cannot remember how i fixed it... not that it was a real fix, it just vented the CO2 after and didn't reoccur again.

Fincuan
03-07-08, 05:22 PM
BTW, I have saved submerged plenty of times in SH4 without any ill effects.

So have I, but the add-on really made me think again. Besides the CO2 bug I also came across the pressurized air bug(you start losing pressurized air rapidly the moment your boat goes under the surface) on my very first U-Boat Add-on session. That too seems to be related to saving. Didn't even have to load the save, just saving itself was enough. On the next session I didn't save, and didn't see neither of the two bugs.

kylesplanet
03-08-08, 11:20 AM
I am just trying to figure it out . Ok , so you pressed the CO2 when already surfaced . Maybe this stuffs something up , i dunno . Maybe try going to PD again and just surface via the menu buttons down the bottom panel . I had to travel for a while for it to vent BTW . It didnt happen straight away .

I attempted that as well. I TC on the surface all night, the CO2 climbed. Perhaps when the CO2 icon pops up and you finally decide to surface, the icon needs to be clicked so you surface thus venting the boat? Not sure and I will attempt that as well. I'm at about 44% CO2 level now but my men are not turning green so that is a good thing.

AVG, is this happening to you in a Fleetboat or just the U-Boats? I have the add on but have yet to install it, just waiting on the mods to become compatable which they seem to be.

Zantham
03-09-08, 03:31 PM
Well I got the CO2 bug again. I was submerged in a u-boat and had to alt-tab out of the game for a few minutes. I paused the game, pressed Esc to get to the menu, then alt-tabbed. When I got back into the game a few mins later I resurfaced, and noticed a while after this I was very slowly accumulating CO2. I then submerged, saved the game, exited the game to the main menu, and reloaded the save I had just made. Resurfaced, all my CO2 disappeared.

I have since tried to reproduce this, alt-tabbing while on the surface and also submerged and it hasn't happened again, except oddly enough, now when I submerge I don't build up any CO2 at all.

AVGWarhawk
03-09-08, 05:34 PM
I am just trying to figure it out . Ok , so you pressed the CO2 when already surfaced . Maybe this stuffs something up , i dunno . Maybe try going to PD again and just surface via the menu buttons down the bottom panel . I had to travel for a while for it to vent BTW . It didnt happen straight away .

I attempted that as well. I TC on the surface all night, the CO2 climbed. Perhaps when the CO2 icon pops up and you finally decide to surface, the icon needs to be clicked so you surface thus venting the boat? Not sure and I will attempt that as well. I'm at about 44% CO2 level now but my men are not turning green so that is a good thing.

AVG, is this happening to you in a Fleetboat or just the U-Boats? I have the add on but have yet to install it, just waiting on the mods to become compatable which they seem to be.

Happening in the fleet boats.

SuperCavitation
03-11-08, 01:29 AM
Hey guys, I posted this thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=132775) where I had the C02 bug.

My .02...

My patrol started at Pearl with a 48hr troll in the Celebes. I worked my way down, sunk some shipping, yadda ya. I was damaged. I had batt damage which is the worst since I have to micromanage it. Along with that, what I can remember, was hydrophones, both guns, planes, the deck attack scope, and electric engines. I refitted at Brisbane and took off for the Gilberts via the Solomans.

I saved as I left Brisbane.

After I passed the Solomans, dinking and diving, I took the stretch to the Gilberts. Somewhere after that, I got spooked by an aircraft and dove again. It was when I rose that the C02 hit. I hadnt saved since Brisbane. About 20 min real time.

So, I dunno, just adding my chips to the pot as it were. The fix I found is in that thread.

AVGWarhawk
03-11-08, 09:25 AM
After my save and restart, the CO2 level was at zero. I still have not put my finger on the way to make this issue go away. Maybe it is the beans they are serving in the galley all the time.

Delareon
03-12-08, 03:23 AM
in these cases saving and reloading works for me.
But sometimes i get another issue that the CO2 never raises up and i can
stay submerged for months if i dont move ;)

Ricky_75
03-12-08, 08:55 AM
in these cases saving and reloading works for me.
But sometimes i get another issue that the CO2 never raises up and i can
stay submerged for months if i dont move ;)

Since the update, the crew seems to forget some essential things:
1) Go into the sub when diving - perhaps they invented a special snorkel?
2) Open the hatches after surfacing - ok, they are afraid of fresh air ... must be IT-Pros :-)

I think, the problem is inside the depth-trigger. These features happen at my computer, when using time compression while dive and surface procedures.

andycaccia
03-12-08, 03:23 PM
:eek: Coff Coff!!

All this carbon dioxide is killing me... or are the bugs??

kylesplanet
03-12-08, 11:15 PM
This is not encouraging me to install this thing. I've had it since day one but I was waiting on the mods. Now that they seem to have cought up, I've just been waiting to get a little farther in my career but I keep hearing about bugs and complications. I will probably never play as a U Boat so currently, I have a great sim that I don't want to mess up.:hmm:

Maybe things will work out in a week or two, meanwhile, I can keep plugging away at my career. (I've never made it to the end) Eventually though I will have to install it because all the modders will be building for 1.5. I suppose putting it into perspective though, this is really small potato's.:sunny:

Clyde00
03-14-08, 12:34 PM
Got the CO2 bug again last night. This time the crew would not go to the watch positions. It was still as if I was submerged. I tried different depths and back to the surface again with no luck. It took two save games, exits, and reloads to get the crew and CO2 back to normal.
This was with an US campaign with no enemy units, rough seas, no land in sight, and on the surface save game. (note that I was getting a depth of 20 meters message in the rough swells). Also I use a slightly higher wave amplitude.

dize
03-14-08, 12:48 PM
i never had this bug yet. i played like 12 patrols now with the 1.5 update, and i never had that bug yet. i never click on that co2 button tho. i surface manualy.