Request for assistance from someone good on graphics [Archive]

JScones

02-23-08, 09:59 PM

I've been meaning, for some time, to get SH3Cmdr to produce certificates to go along with the medals that you have been awarded.

For example, on the Personnel File each medal would be linked to a personalised copy of the associated award certificate.

The result would be something like the below, but with *your* name and *your* received date and newer looking, of course.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2341/ek1ai3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Adds no real value I guess, but I know some guys were once quite keen for this.

The problem is, I'm utterly useless on graphics.

Soooo....I wonder if anyone here would be kind enough to dummy up certificates (with blanks for where the name and date would go) for each medal type that can be awarded.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/ contains examples as a reference.

If you want to be artistic and overlay an image of the actual medal on the corner or something, that would be great too (then I don't need to provide a separate image).

Alternatively, I believe one can buy repro templates. I'd be happy for scans of those even

emaluzer

02-23-08, 11:47 PM

http://www.ohiosellers.com/SH3/medals.jpg

emaluzer

02-23-08, 11:55 PM

http://www.ohiosellers.com/SH3/medals1st.jpg

here is a cleaner version:
http://www.ohiosellers.com/SH3/medalsclean1.jpg

HundertzehnGustav

02-25-08, 08:42 AM

huh yea.
me want.
:hmm:

but i won' t print them out and pin them on the wall....
peeps would think i'm a lil' different...
looking good no less.

if we could have the reason on it, too?

...for sinking the Battle Cruiser HOOD on december 17, 1939
...for shadowing.....convoy....
...leading wolfpack....
...bringing home battered sub.....
...reaching 100000 BRT tonnage in one patrol...

:D

FIREWALL

02-25-08, 09:13 AM

That looks kool JS. It's touches like that add to the immersion and gameplay. :up:

ReallyDedPoet

02-25-08, 09:30 AM

SH Commander has been a great program these past few years Jaesen, I'll give this component a sticky for a week or so, give it some more exposure here :yep:

RDP

danlisa

02-25-08, 09:37 AM

@ JS

Do you have any requests in terms of file format & size (pixels)?

How would this eventually work? Would the certificate output in HTML (ala Patrol Record)? If so, you could probably have 1x cert template and then only change/renew the medal graphics as needed.:hmm:

Otherwise, I can easily get a full set together in any format you like, doing my best to replicate the originals from scratch. They're misaligned and pixelated <shudder>.:D

danlisa

02-25-08, 04:09 PM

Anyway, one clean version & one messy.

BTW, I've seperated all the awards and cleaned them up should you want one certificate template and just sub the award.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/JS-Test.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/JS-TestMessy.jpg

Steel_Tomb

02-25-08, 05:33 PM

That looks awesome, lovely work there guys! :up:

Boris

02-25-08, 05:33 PM

Not sure if I like the font, it's a little too english :hmm:

Also, theres spelling errors ( I know, gothic font is hard to read and it's easy to confuse some letters with others).

The award is also for an iron cross, not a deutsches kreuz.

Sorry for ripping you work to shreds :lol::oops:, please forgive me

Hellraiser

02-25-08, 05:35 PM

That looks awesome, lovely work there guys! :up:

Looks great...except...the last 2 say 'Mehrmacht"! :rotfl:

danlisa

02-25-08, 05:40 PM

LOL, Boris.

I knew there would be problems with my example.:rotfl: I couldn't read the originals for sh*t and I don't understand it.

So, if someone *cough Boris*, would be kind enough, please put up an easy to read version with the necessary changes for each award, I'd be more than grateful.

Should of kept quiet.:rotfl:

Edit - Oh and I can add the umlauts if needed.

Madox58

02-25-08, 05:43 PM

@Danlisa,

:lol:
Now I don't feel so bad about the FN key thing!
:lol:

Boris

02-25-08, 05:49 PM

Here's the text in plain, you did pretty well to give you some credit. :)
Also, it's an iron cross, so the little iron cross logo at the top should stay.

Im Namen des Führers
und Obersten Befehlshabers
der Wehrmacht
verleihe ich
dem

das
Eiserne Kreuz 1.Klasse

...................,den ................... 19

danlisa

02-25-08, 05:51 PM

@ Privateer

Touche!:D

At least JS wil have a giggle when he gets online.

Either way, spell it out for the englander dummy and I'll make them.

danlisa

02-25-08, 05:53 PM

@ Boris

Which line relates to the award? JS want's one for each.

Eiserne Kreuz 1.Klasse

I'm guessing that one.:p

I can see this will be painful if done in public.:rotfl:

Boris

02-25-08, 05:58 PM

@ Boris

Which line relates to the award? JS want's one for each.

Eiserne Kreuz 1.Klasse
I'm guessing that one.:p

I can see this will be painful if done in public.:rotfl:

Yep :yep:, but it's probably best to check out what each real certificate looked like.
I'll PM you with more details.

danlisa

02-25-08, 06:02 PM

Sweet.:up: Thanks.

PS. Going to bed now, got a better offer.;)

Boris

02-25-08, 06:03 PM

ight, good night then. :)

Boris

02-25-08, 06:19 PM

Those first two look great! Love the font.

Would anyone on these forums happen to have that, or the other gothic font used on the iron cross certificate, or as close to as only possible?

Laufen zum Ziel

02-25-08, 07:06 PM

Here is all I have.http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePilotandObserverDocuments1.jpg?t=12039846 31http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePilotandObserverDocuments2.jpg?t=12039845 78http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePilotandObserverDocuments3.jpg?http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePilotandObserverDocuments5.jpg?t=12039844 58http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePilotandObserverDocuments6.jpg?http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePromotionDocuments1.jpg?t=1203984376http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePromotionDocuments2.jpg?t=1203984329

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/LuftwaffePromotionDocuments3.jpg?t=1203984100

Hope these show. I am not good at getting my images here...

JScones

02-26-08, 02:21 AM

Wow, great stuff everyone.

SH Commander has been a great program these past few years Jaesen, I'll give this component a sticky for a week or so, give it some more exposure here :yep:
Thanks. :up:

Do you have any requests in terms of file format & size (pixels)?

How would this eventually work? Would the certificate output in HTML (ala Patrol Record)? If so, you could probably have 1x cert template and then only change/renew the medal graphics as needed.:hmm:

Otherwise, I can easily get a full set together in any format you like, doing my best to replicate the originals from scratch. They're misaligned and pixelated <shudder>.:D
No constraints. I picture it working this way - on your current Personnel File, the medal names will contain a hyperlink to a tga/bmp or some kind of image file that will be the associated certificate. This means one certificate for each of the medals *and* the three badges.

I envisage that when SH3Cmdr generates the Personnel File it will print the personal details directly onto the tga file.

Of course, that's the plan...

Would anyone on these forums happen to have that, or the other gothic font used on the iron cross certificate, or as close to as only possible?
Just emailled you a few, including the closest one I have - Behrens-Schrift. Also check here for a vast selection of Germanic fonts... http://moorstation.org/typoasis/designers/steffmann/index.htm including aforementioned Behrens-Schrift.

JScones

02-26-08, 03:08 AM

Talking about fonts, does anyone have a good, and freely distributable, typewriter font? I would like to replace the courier new font in the Personnel Files with something a bit more authentic.

Freely distributable means that I can include it with SH3Cmdr and register it when loading.

danlisa

02-26-08, 03:24 AM

See anything you like? All Free.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/1942report2.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/lastwords2.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/hammerkeys2.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/mtypewriter2.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/teletype2.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/typewriter_new_roman.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/typical_writer2.gif

JScones

02-26-08, 03:35 AM

Maybe 1942 and the New Roman one.

I tried Typical Writer, but it was too solid and overpowering.

BTW, does everyone's machine have Lucida Handwriting, Mistral and Rage Italic installed?

danlisa

02-26-08, 03:39 AM

1942 - http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/1942_report.html

New Roman - http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/typewriter_new_roman.html

BTW, does everyone's machine have Lucinda Handwriting and Rage Italic installed?

I'll check mine later but if they're not standard XP fonts, I doubt it.

JScones

02-26-08, 04:07 AM

Thanks.

Otherwise I guess I'll be looking for good free handwriting fonts too. ;)

bert8for3

02-26-08, 06:08 AM

Typewriter fonts ... there's also one called Old Typewriter, although possibly a bit heavy-looking. See www.dafont.com (http://www.dafont.com) .

ToySoldier

02-26-08, 08:43 AM

Hello out there!

Sorry to disturp ya all!

I´ve searched a bit and found some Kriegsmarine documents!

Not to insult one of ya posting here but the one JScones posted is for Infanterie, you can see it by the signiture!

So here the one for Eisernes Kreuz:
http://www.wehrmachtlexikon.de/archiv2/details.php?image_id=286&sessionid=572fd086f0e1de6a9c104e01682ad564

And one for the U-Boot Kriegsabzeichen:
http://www.wehrmachtlexikon.de/archiv2/details.php?image_id=45&sessionid=572fd086f0e1de6a9c104e01682ad564

And normaly they where writen with a typwriter (IMHO this http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/typewriter_new_roman.gif
would fit the best!

Just a suggestion!

And if somebody preferred a handwriting ... this will be a pain in the ars til 1942, because till then the "official" handwriting was Korrent (mostly false called Sütterlin)
and beginning with 1943 we germans us also Latin Letters.
Here is a free DL for Sütterlin ... but I didn´t check it :)
Edit: (Upppssss sorry forget the Link *schäm* .... also:
http://www.computerwissen.de/download/suetterlin-co-neue-schriften-fuer-window.html
in the right corner where "Sütterlin" stands)

In diesem Sinne
Gott mit Uns
Frank B. aus K.

Boris

02-26-08, 09:07 AM

The handwriting taught in schools during the NS-Regime was actually Sütterlin, which was a reformed form of kurrent, which is much older. Kurrent is falsely called Sütterlin, but Sütterlin is a development and standardisation of Kurrent, which was made official in 1935.
Most German today can't even read it though, and it's considered a Nazi-script by many. No way the average silent hunter player could read it, that's for sure. :)

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 09:29 AM

Hi everyone.

I have highlighted what needs to be coded for the Ritterkreuz and above and will do so for the lower awards as well.

I hope that helps.

First, here is the Knights Cross:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6897/kcyy8.jpg

Here's for the Oak Leaves
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1655/oaksoi1.jpg

Regarding the award names (what needs to be coded into the yellow space):

Oak leaves = Das Eichenlaub - as in the example.

There is a bit of a problem regarding the upper grades (swords, Diamonds) , as I do not know how the urkunden looked. MY best guess would be like the example above, with only the Award names changed.
Like this:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1655/oaksoi1.jpg

With the words "DIE SCHWERTER" or "DIE BRIllIANTEN" replacing "Das Eichenlaub.

Another possibility is this:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/453/oaks2ap9.jpg
As above with die Schwerter etc. replacing the yellow part, and the green part replaced by

"DES RITTERKREUZ DES EISERNEN KREUZES MIT EICHENLAUB" (for the swords)
"ZUM RITTERKREUZ DES EISERNEN KREUZES MIT EICHENLAUB UND SCHWERTERN" (for the diamonds)
or
"ZUM EICHENLAUB DES RITTERKREUZ DES EISERNEN KREUZES"

For the golden Oak leaves, swords and diamonds replace the yellow part in this image
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1655/oaksoi1.jpg
with DAS GOlDENE EICHENLAUB MIT SCHWERTERN UND BRILLIANTEN.

I will post the lower grades next, since there is no confusion left. If no one has a real example of the Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern and above, I guess you should just pick whatever looks best.

Boris

02-26-08, 10:00 AM

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6897/kcyy8.jpg

Are these real documents? What's with the spelling of Fregattenkapitän... here: Fregettenkapitän?

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 10:01 AM

Here is the same for the U-Boat War Badge.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9826/ukamt5.jpg

The difficulty here is the name of the BDU (which I mistakenly called FDU in the edited picture, which is quite wrong as that was abolished in 1939).

Important information:
- only the surname is printed on the thing (green).

The BDU:
Name: Karl Dönitz until the 30th January 1943, after that Hans-Georg von Friedeburg
Rank: Konteradmiral (after 01 Oct 1939); Vizeadmiral (01 Sep 1940); Admiral (14 Mar 1942) for Dönitz. Friedeburg: Vizeadmiral (01 Feb 1943); Admiral (01 Apr 1943); Generaladmiral (01 May 1945)

I was unable to find a signature picture of Friedeburg, so that will be a problem.

I was unable to find a picture for the U-Boot Frontspange, but I suggest just replacing the top icon and the name of the award (replace the "das" above the part in yellow with "die" and the writing in yellow with Ubootfrontspange.

Regarding the location (highlighted in red):
there is no info on whether it was the base name, but since the commander of the U-boots signed it, I would simply write "Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine" (Navy Command).

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 10:09 AM

Are these real documents? What's with the spelling of Fregattenkapitän... here: Fregettenkapitän?

They were posted by someone else in this thread. I do not know anything about their origins,

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 10:14 AM

I have checked my literature - according to some sources, the documents actually looked like that. As for the typo, I don't know about that, but the general design is correct.

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 10:34 AM

Alright, here is the EK template - this is confirmed and authentic

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8730/ek2hl9.jpg

Important information:
- in contrast to the Ubootkriegsabzeichen, the full name is printed on the document.
- ranks should read as : "Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse" (EKII) and "Eiserne Kreuz 1. Klasse" (EKI).

The BDU:
Name: Karl Dönitz until the 30th January 1943, after that Hans-Georg von Friedeburg
Rank: Konteradmiral (after 01 Oct 1939); Vizeadmiral (01 Sep 1940); Admiral (14 Mar 1942) for Dönitz. Friedeburg: Vizeadmiral (01 Feb 1943); Admiral (01 Apr 1943); Generaladmiral (01 May 1945)

I was unable to find a signature picture of Friedeburg, so that will be a problem.

I have not indicated the location, since Befehlsstelle means "Command post".

Also, I was unable to find a template for the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold. So I would suggest just a replacement of Iron cross icon with the Deutsches Kreuz and the award name should read as "Deutsche Kreuz in Gold".

Paul.Saenger

02-26-08, 10:44 AM

Regarding the knights cross and above: There were two types of documents. One, the actual document as posted above, the other the "vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis", a document signed by the unit commander, which was valid until the Ritterkreuz was officially awarded in a ceremony. This was mainly done in the case of the Heer when there was no opportunity for such a ceremony (After all, one could not stop fighting just to sent an officer to Berlin to get a medal).

Since this is not the case in the Kriegsmarine, one should probably disregard that. But just to post an example of such a Heer document (I cannot vouch for the authenticity):

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5366/ritterkreuz04ze9.jpg

JScones

02-27-08, 01:36 AM

Cool stuff.

And if somebody preferred a handwriting ... this will be a pain in the ars til 1942, because till then the "official" handwriting was Korrent (mostly false called Sütterlin)
and beginning with 1943 we germans us also Latin Letters.
Here is a free DL for Sütterlin ... but I didn´t check it :)
Edit: (Upppssss sorry forget the Link *schäm* .... also:
http://www.computerwissen.de/download/suetterlin-co-neue-schriften-fuer-window.html
in the right corner where "Sütterlin" stands)

In diesem Sinne
Gott mit Uns
Frank B. aus K.
Thanks for the font. Didn't realise just how illegible it was though.

Is there a more legible (free) German handwriting font available (for a different reason, not linked to the certificates)?

ToySoldier

02-27-08, 08:40 AM

Hi out there!

@JScones
That´s the problem with Korrent/Sütterlin, because we Germans use this handwriting til 1942. Then the Nazi´s detect in the history of this writing a jew as editor and forbid it ... that´s the reason that in germany now is the roman-letter in use. :cry:
So if you would like a more legible handwriting you can use everyone you like ;)

But I will keep an eye open and post the link!

In diesem Sinne
Gott mit Uns
Frank B. aus K.

Edit: maybe you find here one which you like:
http://pagespro-orange.fr/dephitro/telechf1.htm

Gewehr98

02-28-08, 09:16 PM

I suggest www.myfonts.com and their utility, WhatTheFont...although I just ran it and it didn't come up with anything too close.

sh3rules

03-02-08, 09:09 PM

This mod is looking good...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/18/Marlene_Dietrich_1932.jpg

Madox58

03-02-08, 09:32 PM

Just a question and a Hmmmm.

Are we gonna get a nice note from BDU if we don't return?

Kind of a "We regret to inform you" thing?

And since I don't know the files involved,
Posthumous Awards?

ReallyDedPoet

03-03-08, 08:27 PM

Just removed the sticky, seems like you got a lot of helpful info. Again, good luck
with it :up:

RDP

SquareSteelBar

03-04-08, 10:40 AM

Is there a more legible (free) German handwriting font available (for a different reason, not linked to the certificates)?
These fonts aren't typical german but they look like written by hand:

2 Fonts (http://www.mediafire.com/?dmdtyggkgdt)

Maybe here you'll find something useful:

http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts.html#Free%20Fonts (http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts.html#Free%20Fonts)

So long,
SquareSteelBar

JScones

03-04-08, 06:58 PM

Thanks. Some nice fonts there. :up:

iambecomelife

03-04-08, 09:14 PM

Just a question and a Hmmmm.

Are we gonna get a nice note from BDU if we don't return?

Kind of a "We regret to inform you" thing?

And since I don't know the files involved,
Posthumous Awards?

Great idea. That reminds me of my days playing "Sub Battle" on my 486 as a kid. My parents tended to receive quite a few consolation messages from the Kriegsmarine...:dead:

Madox58

03-04-08, 09:27 PM

486.
:rotfl:
I remember when I thought a CoCo 128K was wicked!
:lol:
First thing I wrote for that was a version of Risk!
:up:
I collect Risk Board games.

Carotio

03-05-08, 09:45 PM

If you're still looking for old German fonts, I would like to lead your attention to the Fraktur fonts. You can get some for free here:
http://www.morscher.com/3r/fonts/fraktur.htm

EDIT:
Some info about German language and font use:
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/german.htm
This is where I found the link for the Fraktur fonts

JScones

04-11-09, 11:50 PM

I was conversing with Laufen zum Ziel last night and decided to resurrect this initiative, which kinda just fell by the wayside.

Here is an example of something I threw together in the wee hours this morning. It's a jpg file that is generated completely by code within SH3Cmdr.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5553/deathnoticejohannhessleb.jpg

Ignore size, typos etc, it's just a proof of concept.

So going back to my initial request, what I need from people/someone are raw templates in bmp format of the array of certificates that U-boat Kaleuns could receive (as they apply to the awards offered by the game).

Now I have tons of examples; I know what the documents look like, what they say and such, but what I am after is someone with graphical skills to dummy up correct size bmp templates where I can just use code to add the personalised details.

The certificates would then appear as links from the Personnel Files page.

Pls post here if you can help, or if you seek further clarification.

Task Force

04-12-09, 12:23 AM

Nice, I look foward to this.:yeah:

JScones

04-12-09, 02:25 AM

Nice, I look foward to this.:yeah:
It will only materialise though with the support and assistance of this community.

Sharkley

04-12-09, 06:12 AM

Well, you have my full support. What a amazing little program SH3Commander has turned out to be, I can't even imagine not having it.

SH3 needs it and wants more of it !!

:up:

irish1958

04-12-09, 07:03 AM

My graphic skills are even worse than my Kaleun skills, so if I get involved I could sink the whole project; but I volunteer to do any alpha or beta testing on CMDR or JSGME.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-12-09, 08:50 AM

I am in for what ever I can do. I am not a super graphics person but I do have plenty of time to give it a shot.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-12-09, 12:36 PM

JS,

Is this the type you want?

It's the real thing but minipulated to be blank.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/JSconesforumpost1.jpg

iambecomelife

04-12-09, 08:13 PM

Beautiful work, and a touching tribute to our lost commanders. When I start playing again, hopefully I won't ever get the chance to see it. :rotfl:

JScones

04-12-09, 08:55 PM

JS,

Is this the type you want?

It's the real thing but minipulated to be blank.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/JSconesforumpost1.jpg
Yes. Nice. Thanks.

Just need to replace the seal and Commandant details with Kriegsmarine details, and size it to real size (what size were they anyway?) and it will be sweet.

JScones

04-12-09, 09:10 PM

Here's an example of a U-boat one...

http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/pictures/h906a.jpg

Replace the 2 with 1 and you have the Class 1 covered as well.

And one for the war badge...

http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/pictures/h906.jpg

These in "real size" (which they might be), cleaned up and sans recipient details, would be perfect.

JScones

04-12-09, 09:45 PM

I found a Wehrmacht issued Death Certificate...

http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/pictures/h64a.jpg

Maybe it's better to use it rather than the newspaper announcement?

Laufen zum Ziel

04-12-09, 10:10 PM

JScones

04-12-09, 10:22 PM

Knowing that the War Badge certificate was A4, it looks like the EK certificate was A5 (going by the folder holes).

JScones

04-12-09, 11:41 PM

Nice looking. I will clean them up tomorrow (Monday 4/13)
Thanks. Hope you don't mind, but I've had a start on the EK certs...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6170/ek2johannhessler.jpg http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6576/ek1johannhessler.jpg

Close to proper A5 size (pixel-wise).

I plan on only adding one style of each certificate by default, however, I will make it possible for players/modders to add different variations of each certificate however they like. For example, players can create and add one style of EK2/EK1 certificate covering the early years (Fraktur fonts) and one covering the later years (Antiqua fonts). Or ones with different sig blocks etc etc etc.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-13-09, 12:05 AM

Thanks. Hope you don't mind, but I've had a start on the EK certs...

Not at all. Is there anything I can clean up or sterilize?

JScones

04-13-09, 02:03 AM

..

Not at all. Is there anything I can clean up or sterilize?
:yep: There will be - I'm about at the limit of my graphical capabilities, LOL!

Here's a War Badge example...

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8551/warbadgejohannhessler.jpg

That's about all I have.

I still need templates for:
-German Cross in Gold (254mm x 356mm)
-Knight's Cross (and all subsequent additions)
-Front Clasp (A5)
-Wound Badge (A5)

JScones

04-13-09, 05:16 AM

And Death Certificate/Card combination...

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6461/deathcertjohannhessler.jpghttp://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2643/deathcardjohannhessler.jpg

And that's all I can do. Although I'd be happy if someone could "de-crease" the Death Certificate (source file here).
(http://www.mediafire.com/?mmgtzmyztmy)
If anyone has scans of certificates for:

-German Cross in Gold (B4 - 250mm x 353mm)
-Knight's Cross (and all subsequent additions) (~B2 - 500mm x 707mm)
-Front Clasp (A5 - 148mm x 210mm)
-Wound Badge (A5 - 148mm x 210mm)
-Promotions (A4 - 210mm x 297mm)

pls post here.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-13-09, 10:29 AM

Best I can do on crease remaval.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/JSxonesDeathCardNew1creaseremoved.jpg

Archive1

04-13-09, 01:14 PM

Nice to see this resurrected. And I agree, 'Commander' just keeps improving on an excellent base.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-13-09, 02:59 PM

More examples-
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/RaderLetterhead1finished.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/Krigsmarinerubberstamp.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/IronCross1Hitlerfinished.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/GermanCrossinSilverDonitzfinished.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/GermanCrossinGoldRaeder1finished.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/laufen345/GermanCrossinGoldDonitzfinished-1.jpg

Jimbuna

04-13-09, 03:11 PM

Can't believe I've never noticed this thread before :hmmm:

looking really good though :up:

TarJak

04-13-09, 05:42 PM

For a Kreigsmarine certificate you might want to get rid of any mention of the Wehrmacht. Simple word replacement of KM for WM will do the trick.

JScones

04-13-09, 05:50 PM

For a Kreigsmarine certificate you might want to get rid of any mention of the Wehrmacht. Simple word replacement of KM for WM will do the trick.
Why? The Kriegsmarine was part of the Wehrmacht and thus some certificates (like the Iron Cross ones above) make perfectly valid reference to it (ie "In name of the Fuehrer and highest commander of the Wehrmacht", rather than "Commander in Chief of the Kriegsmarine").

I am, as much as possible, sourcing copies of certificates issued to the U-boat Branch, or at the least, the Kriegsmarine.

Dowly

04-13-09, 07:25 PM

Luftwaffe promotion thingy:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/LWpromotion.jpg

I also have German cross, Knight's cross, iron cross thingies in high(ish) resolution (and some others. Got the from a CD and all the descriptions are in german, so noo idea what they are). Throw me a PM if you need them and I'll zip them up. :salute:

JScones

04-13-09, 08:44 PM

Thanks Dowly, I've sent you a PM. :up:

Can someone pls remind me - SH3 doesn't award players Wound Badges does it? I mean, there is no provision for a Kaleun to get a Wound Badge?

If that's the case, no Wound Badge certificate is required.

irish1958

04-13-09, 09:12 PM

That is correct. No wound badge for the Kaleun.
Bummer

JScones

04-13-09, 09:43 PM

Well I just wasted an hour on this...

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8849/woundbadge.jpg

:(

JScones

04-14-09, 12:53 AM

Not overly happy with this, but it's the best I can find that was issued by vF...

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5613/frontclaspjohannhessler.jpg

Better than nothing and will suffice until something better is found.

Dowly

04-14-09, 03:29 AM

PM sent. :yeah: Right, now for my murning coffee. :yawn:

JScones

04-14-09, 05:04 AM

Thanks Dowly. :up:

First two Knight's Cross...still a WIP though...
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7236/kcigjohannhessler.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7761/kcigojohannhessler.jpg

I've decided to keep all the larger documents to ~A4 size for ease of printing/viewing.

JScones

04-14-09, 08:30 AM

JScones

04-14-09, 09:54 AM

And the German Cross certificate, again scaled back to ~A4 size...

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1929/gcjohannhessler.jpg

By my reckoning that's it for medals and badges. Just gotta clean up the templates.

BTW, for those interested, here's a page with examples of the real things... http://www.unterseeboote.co.uk/awarddocuments.htm The last two documents shown are provisional documents, presented before the full certificate (folder). I'm not doing those; I'm only doing the certificates.

Laufen zum Ziel

04-14-09, 10:08 AM

Looking good. Great site.

JScones

04-14-09, 10:10 AM

And thanks for your assistance LzZ. :up:

Here's a site full of Knight's Cross document examples... http://www.der-brillanten.com

Murr44

04-14-09, 05:08 PM

And the next two...
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6898/kcigosjohannhessler.jpghttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/74/kcigosdjohannhessler.jpg

No "Golden Diamonds" one though for I don't think one existed, and I'm not gonna make up a fantasy one, as that kinda defeats the purpose.

Gotta better match the colours and fix the backgrounds, but that's about it.

Looks pretty cool.:up:

The Golden Oakleaves, Swords & Diamonds was awarded only once; to Hans-Ulrich Rudel. I have never seen pics of either the preliminary award certifficate or the formal award document for that one.

That's a pretty interesting site. I have a KM KVK II mit Schwertern (War Merit Cross 2nd Class with Swords) formal award document issued to Mar. H. Verw. Insp. (civilian contract employee) Karl-Heinz Hoppe on Sept. 1 1943 at St.Q. It's signed by Vizeadmiral Ernst Schirlitz - Der Kommandierende Admiral Atlantikkuste. KVK II's are almost a-dime-a-dozen but it is an interesting document all the same.

Lupo

04-15-09, 02:22 AM

hi!
looks awesome!!!!!:rock:
we need more of does great works........
sppy for my bad english.:oops:

mfg lupo!

Archive1

05-03-09, 11:00 PM

Anybody know about the status of this thread?

urfisch

05-26-09, 12:45 PM

any news on this topic? nice idea!!!

fist_mlrs

05-27-09, 05:47 PM

JScones

05-27-09, 07:45 PM

Anybody know about the status of this thread?
Whether this is implemented depends largely on the letters from home mod. My plan was/is to implement the two features together. I don't know the status of it.

My concern with this feature is that only one person (thanks LzZ) volunteered to help clean up the images. Some look quite poor and I am loathed to use them as they are, but my graphics skills aren't up to the task of cleaning them myself.

Archive1

05-28-09, 11:31 PM

JScones: I understand. I wrote not inconsiderable stuff for the Letters from Home thread...but it looks like it has crashed and burned. I suspect that the enthusiasm for writing those letters faded as the effort and discipline required for even semi-professional writing became evident.
I think the document images you and LzZ developed were actually first class. Maybe they can be filed and used for future mods. I certainly hope so.

FIREWALL

05-28-09, 11:51 PM

Why do the letters have to be semi-professional ?

The spelling and gramer shouldn't be perfect.

They weren't scholars writeing those letters.

Archive1

06-05-09, 06:48 PM

Firewall:
Sorry, that was not my point - maybe I was unclear. I was discussing the problem that arises for people who do not write a great deal, in discovering the amount of discipline and effort that needs to be invested to bring a long-term project to a successful conclusion. Intentions may be, usually are, quite sincere, but reality intrudes and things just start to unravel.

I agree that the letter writers would not have been super literate, but I have no idea how to imitate poor German syntax or expression, and have little interest in reading poorly written English - much better to have 'letters' that are well-composed and really tell a good story, no?

But the project may not be entirely dead after all. Perhaps just delayed a bit.

onelifecrisis

06-05-09, 06:51 PM

My concern with this feature is that only one person (thanks LzZ) volunteered to help clean up the images. Some look quite poor and I am loathed to use them as they are, but my graphics skills aren't up to the task of cleaning them myself.

I only just saw this. I would be more than happy to try and clean up any images you have. Send me the images if I can help.

Laufen zum Ziel

06-07-09, 10:37 AM

Thanks OLC. JS does great work & this project could add a lot to GWX.

My graphic skills are not the best but I am always willing to try.

onelifecrisis

06-07-09, 10:54 AM

Hi LzZ,
Hmm, I hope I didn't misunderstand what JS was saying. :hmmm:
At any rate the offer still stands. If I can be of any assistance let me know. :yeah:

Archive1

06-08-09, 11:09 PM

JScones:
Don't want to hijack the thread but merely respond to the comment re: the Letters from Home project.

You might look at the "Letters from home" thread. GR and I have communicated and he has decided to put the "Letters from Home" project on hold for the summer...too many other distractions and demands in the N Hemisphere... and revisit it in the Fall. So the whole project may not be dead as I feared. It will depend upon how many 'writers' we can lure into the stable. We'll see. I proposed that we not demand that contributors write a full 4 years of stuff, but send in 12 months that can stand alone, or be expanded...maybe will intimidate people less than a demand that they provide a full career's worth of material. Again, we'll see.

Sorry, but I'm not a graphics guy - just two dimensional words - so cannot help with any graphics editing. I have to say, though, what is already on display is quite nice.
Archive1

Alex

06-12-09, 07:47 PM

JS does great work & this project could add a lot to GWX.

Indeed ! :yep:
I wish good luck to all people involved in the making of this mod. :|\\

JScones

11-07-09, 02:56 AM

Does anyone know the name of the typewriter font (or something similar) that's used on these documents?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7987/dkig2.jpghttp://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1055/dkig.jpg

urfisch

11-07-09, 05:44 PM

use a "courier", a "letter gothic" or a "P22 typewriter"

;)

Hitman

11-08-09, 04:06 AM

But since you have already good scans of those documents, why don't you simply put a field for the text in the proper place and use the image as it is now? Couldn't SH3Commander simply write the name of the commander and the data in a prearranged field of the graphic? :hmmm:

JScones

11-08-09, 04:40 AM

The player's details are written onto stock templates. I'm looking for the best font to use as the "typewriter".

For now I've settled on Typewriter Condensed (http://www.dafont.com/typewriter-condensed.font) for the German Cross document. I'm fairly certain that the actual font used in the above examples is Fuehrertype, but it doesn't seem to exist in digital form.

Some work in progress examples below. Full credit for the templates goes to fellow forum member Annatar.

Note the correct signatories for the time period.

They've been scaled to roughly 8" x 11", so that they can be printed nicely to either Letter or A4 paper. That means they're smaller than actual size, but anything larger would be pointless for most people.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5512/franzhessler19420512gc.jpg http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4619/johannschmidt19440123gc.jpg