[WIP] What is it?

[Madox58]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/What_is_it.jpg

[Samwolf]

http://www.uboatwar.net/images/bachstelze.jpg
The Bachstelze Gyrocopter?

[Mush Martin]

I know but wont say.............:cool:

[-SWCowboy.]

I see an elevator and rudder along with landing gear and what looks like an engine and possibly wings...

Some sort of post-WW1 biplane perhaps?

[iambecomelife]

Is it one of those observation helicopters they were going to deploy on U-Boats?

[Madox58]

Most definitly WWII.
Not the Bachstelze.

[CapZap1970]

to me it looks like a basic sketch of the Sopwith Camel... :hmm:
CapZap

[Madox58]

Served in the Baltic, North Aegean, and Mediterranean Seas.

[Mush Martin]

Can I say now :damn:

[Madox58]

No.
Let the guys explore.
:rotfl:

[Mush Martin]

:damn::damn::damn:


your just enjoying this too much :hmm:

[Mush Martin]

Where's the other half?

[Samwolf]

http://www.johnjgobbell.com/images/neptune/fieseler_s.jpg

Second guess - Fieseler Storch

[Madox58]

She's sitting in the chair beside me.
:rotfl:

[Madox58]

Samwolf,
Nope.

[Mush Martin]

Oooh nice parry , Im bested.

[3Jane]

This :p

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8086/flettnerdwglk5.jpg
Flettner Fl-282 'Kolibri' Helicopter

[Madox58]

Very Good!!!
:up:
This is the intended final result.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/flettnerrl_4.jpg

[Mush Martin]

Damn he beat me too it.....

[Samwolf]

http://www.flying-bike.demon.co.uk/helistuff/fl282.jpg

OOH! OOH!

FL-282 Kolibri

ARRRGH got Beat

[Mush Martin]

This unit saw active regular service

[Madox58]

http://helicopter-history.org/Films/Fl282-2.mpg

[Madox58]

Skinning in progress.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Kolibri_Update.jpg

[Hitman]

Awwww I thought at first you were doing the Gyrocopter used by the Monsoon boats in the Indian Ocean for recognition :88) Is that already included in SH4 expansion??

[Madox58]

Actually,
I am going to do a FA-330.
The model work is simple.
Figureing out a way to work it in game is the hard part.
:hmm:
No matter how it's implemented,
someone, somewhere will carp about it.

I'm open to suggestions.

[sh3rules]

The Germans had a helicopter? I thought those things were a relatively new invention :doh:

[Madox58]

They had 2 that actually served on Combat fronts.
the Drache and the Kolibri.
The FA-330 was a gyro that had no engine.
the sub had to bust out full ahead to get enuff wind up for it to rise.

[Jimbuna]

This unit saw active regular service

In a friendly/cordial/respectful kind of way http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/img412/4774/thumbsuplargeon1.gif

How the hell did you know http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif

I suppose you've heard/been told about this as well http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img144/3336/tonguecm5.gif

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/377/manta2uh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2876/manta1jo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Wolfehunter]

:huh: :hmm: Jim... what the hell is that?:p Not from James Bond?:smug:

[gimpy117]

looks like a Hydroplane submarine,
im guessing that those are 4 torpedos on the "wing" most likley they are non reloadable .
the boats object was (i'm guessing) to be submerged and go out to an attacking ship
it would then surface closer to a target and make a high speed run on it.

[Jimbuna]

@Wolfehunter.......no, not James Bond mate, definitely WWII.

@gimpy117....very close sir.

I'm just waiting on MM to come in on this.....he's probably waiting on responses to his PM's from privateer :lol:

@MM........payback for the Bates bottle-thrower challenge ;)

[Madox58]

:rotfl:
MM hasn't PMed me.
But it would do him no good.
I remember the first time I saw this but forgot
the details.

[Mush Martin]

I did nearly post on this last night but decided to wait as it seemed a
ressurected thread.

I have no Idea what it actually is but I would have to go with

the Bates four tubed Swath hulled two man composite submarine
fighter with fibre optic sensor mast,,,,,,,naw too wordy.


@ Jimbuna, Theres no revenge to be had by you and no way for me
to better the eight barrelled bottle thrower thing. as far as Im concerned
you did your best with WWII's most obscure weapon of all and I cant
top that.

M:rotfl:

[edit] after scrutinizing the first 3d image I will change my guess
to experimental attack hydrofoil

[Mush Martin]

MTB 109:know:

[Jimbuna]

Here ya go matey.....The Manta.

Gimpy and you were very close to the money :up:


http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Manta.htm

[Mush Martin]

Keeeeen :up:

What I have on it.


a derivative of the Schwertwal prototype,

Schwertwal
appriximated between 11 & 14.7 tons
two 21"TT or 1 mine?
surface speed / not noted
submereged speed/ 25-30kts
schwertwal unlike manta may have
reached completion the notes indicate
that schwertwal was itself an
evolution of the type XXVIIF which
listed a proposed weaponry itself of
the rocket torpedo's.
(they would have had to solve supercavitation
wouldnt they I am dubious as to whether
they couldve done then even with more time)
its also noted that schwertwal had more speed
than could be safely managed by its crew. the final
note indicates that manta may have been simply
two schwertwal hulls pinned together to form a
new craft.

M

[Jimbuna]

Hmm....interesting :hmm:

A few more views:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1567/manta3ej0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mush Martin]

I think that submerged it would have had poor handling at most speeds
. to look at it anyway

[Jimbuna]

@30 knots.....nigh on impossible I should imagine.

I'd feel a lot safer in one of these:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8914/biber1gx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2776/biber2fn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[bigboywooly]

:hmm:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/BIBER_01.jpg

[Gaz2]

Thats a Seehund [Seal] German midget submarine :smug: if I,m not mistaken?

[Cheapskate]

Thats a Seehund [Seal] German midget submarine :smug: if I,m not mistaken?

My money's on the BIBER

[bigboywooly]

Thats a Seehund [Seal] German midget submarine :smug: if I,m not mistaken?

:nope:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SEEHUN01.jpg

Seehund

[Gaz2]

Am I right then?

[bigboywooly]

Am I right then?

Wasnt the :nope: a bit of a give away
The 2nd shot I posted is a Seehund

[Mush Martin]

Lovely detail in the model.:up:

[Jimbuna]

@BBW

ROFLMAO :rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Something a little different.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2476/seeteufel1zv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Jimbuna]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9651/seeteufel2gh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Cheapskate]

I knew that, Jim :smug: :smug:

An amphibious sub. Wonder why that idea didn't catch on?

Remarkable restoration job BTW :rotfl:

The Biber looks genuine though. Where did you get those shots??

[Jimbuna]

I knew that, Jim :smug: :smug:

An amphibious sub. Wonder why that idea didn't catch on?

Remarkable restoration job BTW :rotfl:

The Biber looks genuine though. Where did you get those shots??

They come from reference materials I've collected over the years.......I'll post some more over the weekend. http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9026/wolfthumbsuprw5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Madox58]

It's getting there.
Alot of the detailed skin work is from Mark Adam's Kolibri for Flight Sim.
I've asked permission to use his skin, with modifications as needed for the Sh series.
I hope he grants permission as I am not a graphics person.
However, it still looks nice!!

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/tail_tst.jpg

[Jimbuna]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8920/kobrajy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4567/kobralinsern4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mush Martin]

A one way tripper. any volunteers for this one.
maybe we could draft from the suicide hotline.
(oh come on you laughed when achmed said it)
M

[Jimbuna]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/853/shhhhhob3oa7.gif They must all be sleeping on this day of rest http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif

[-SWCowboy.]

A one way tripper. any volunteers for this one.
maybe we could draft from the suicide hotline.
(oh come on you laughed when achmed said it)
M

OMG - Mush my wife stormed in here when I fell off my chair at that one!! :lol: That's wrong on so many levels but it's still pretty funny :lol:

[Madox58]

Received this from Mark Adam's regarding his skin.

"Hi Jeff

I am happy for you to use the textures as long as you credit them to "Mark Adams www.dodosim.com" and they are only used in freeware.

I don't know anything about Silent Hunter, if it has a Gmax plugin it might be easier to export my model in the correct format than to finish off your own.
The main LOD exterior model has 18700 polys, I don't know how that compares to the SH platform.

Good luck and I would really like to see how it is developing

Regards
Mark Adams"

:up:

[Jimbuna]

Received this from Mark Adam's regarding his skin.

"Hi Jeff

I am happy for you to use the textures as long as you credit them to "Mark Adams www.dodosim.com" and they are only used in freeware.

I don't know anything about Silent Hunter, if it has a Gmax plugin it might be easier to export my model in the correct format than to finish off your own.
The main LOD exterior model has 18700 polys, I don't know how that compares to the SH platform.

Good luck and I would really like to see how it is developing

Regards
Mark Adams"

:up:

I would say you've got a result there http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Mush Martin]

A one way tripper. any volunteers for this one.
maybe we could draft from the suicide hotline.
(oh come on you laughed when achmed said it)
M
OMG - Mush my wife stormed in here when I fell off my chair at that one!! :lol: That's wrong on so many levels but it's still pretty funny :lol:

like the man said.............That was dark No? :|\\

[HundertzehnGustav]

yall are twisted, twisted...:arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/513/haimarderneger1go0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2793/haimarderneger2ay1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Madox58]

Ok Jim.
:hmm:
What Gang Spray Painted the Neger?
:stare:
:rotfl:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/abr/lowres/abrn229l.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Ok Jim.
:hmm:
What Gang Spray Painted the Neger?
:stare:
:rotfl:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/abr/lowres/abrn229l.jpg

LOL :lol:

[Jimbuna]

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1295/molchnegermarderhaicr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Madox58]

A little further along.
Most of the UV mapping of the main body is done.
Forward area build is in progress.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/Render.jpg