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muppet
02-11-08, 12:39 AM
The water acts like a bowl of jello ,It has a jiggling effect.Anyway to fix this or is it caused by a mod?

Thanks guys.

wolfast
02-11-08, 12:44 AM
what mods do you have?

AkbarGulag
02-11-08, 12:58 AM
The fault is related to time compression. I think this was accentuated by ROW, but to be frank, it's a small price to pay.

There's a note somehwere from LeoVampire explaining a quick in-game workaround to solve this, it is most likely in one of the ROW threads.

joegrundman
02-11-08, 02:43 AM
I think the workaround is to not jump straight out of high TC on the navmap to a screen with the sea in it. You should slow down to 1TC first.

At first i kept forgetting to do this, but now it's second nature and i seldom get the wobble. I take the oportunity to read some of the messages before going outside.

skwasjer
02-11-08, 09:16 AM
If using ROW, make sure to use the ROW addon - which was released last month ago - on top of the ROW mod. Check the first post (at the bottom) in the ROW sticky thread in this forum (I think it's under list number 10.). The ROW addon apart from other improvements, also fixes the jiggle as best as possible (note: the effect is also visible in stock).

DavyJonesFootlocker
02-11-08, 09:21 AM
Time compression is the problem. I get that when I use TC for a long period. The screen graphics need time to 'catch up' so to speak. I got that problem last night. Now what I do is pause the game and wait a few minutes.

momo55
02-11-08, 10:33 AM
If using ROW, make sure to use the ROW addon - which was released last month ago - on top of the ROW mod. Check the first post (at the bottom) in the ROW sticky thread in this forum (I think it's under list number 10.). The ROW addon apart from other improvements, also fixes the jiggle as best as possible (note: the effect is also visible in stock).

If i may quote kriller2 ....You don't need the addon ...the "new pacific enviroment for ROW" overwrites every files from that .

Keeping up with the latest mod(s) update(s) and , only and correct , installorder in JSGME :hmm: is a challenging one .

(groetjes laaglander , hartelijk bedankt voor al je harde werk voor ons allen ;))

AkbarGulag
02-11-08, 10:35 AM
If using ROW, make sure to use the ROW addon

To be honest, the first time you use ROW, don't use the addon if you have a low spec machine. It eats frames. Kriller does great work, but i'm sure he has a mega nice rig :hmm:

This is why I spent so much energy convincing Leovampire to avoid making his LBO a super MOD in one package.

If the ROW looks nice and runs well, try the addon then.

muppet
02-11-08, 10:48 AM
If using ROW, make sure to use the ROW addon

To be honest, the first time you use ROW, don't use the addon if you have a low spec machine. It eats frames. Kriller does great work, but i'm sure he has a mega nice rig :hmm:

This is why I spent so much energy convincing Leovampire to avoid making his LBO a super MOD in one package.

If the ROW looks nice and runs well, try the addon then.

I have a good pc.
vista premium
amd athlon 64 x2 5400
2gb ram
8800gts 640 mb
320gb harddrive
550 watt ps
x-fi extreme music.

ReallyDedPoet
02-11-08, 10:51 AM
Should be fine, I have lower specs than that, no problems with the add-on.


RDP

skwasjer
02-11-08, 11:11 AM
If using ROW, make sure to use the ROW addon - which was released last month ago - on top of the ROW mod. Check the first post (at the bottom) in the ROW sticky thread in this forum (I think it's under list number 10.). The ROW addon apart from other improvements, also fixes the jiggle as best as possible (note: the effect is also visible in stock).

If i may quote kriller2 ....You don't need the addon ...the "new pacific enviroment for ROW" overwrites every files from that .

Keeping up with the latest mod(s) update(s) and , only and correct , installorder in JSGME :hmm: is a challenging one .

(groetjes laaglander , hartelijk bedankt voor al je harde werk voor ons allen ;))
Very well, I don't keep up with what mods are available because I don't play the game really. All I know is that the original ROW mod (by Leo) had a hard bug (file corruption) that made the jiggle worse than it was in stock or some of the first ROW-mods. This bug has been fixed by the addon. Of course if the addon is superceded by a newer version, that's also fine.

PS: Any mod that is derived from the the pre-addon ROW-scene.dat will contain the bug as well.

(graag gedaan)

AkbarGulag
02-11-08, 11:48 AM
Should be fine, I have lower specs than that, no problems with the add-on.
RDP

Muppet certainly has a nice rig, maybe get a second monitor and play two games at once :lol:


PS: Any mod that is derived from the the pre-addon ROW-scene.dat will contain the bug as well.

Now i'm interested... anyone know what I can do to my scene.dat to rectify this? I don't find the jiggling a real problem. But removing it would be pleasant also.

kriller2
02-11-08, 12:51 PM
The scene.dat used in the Pacific Enviroments for ROW are the same file as the one used in the Addon (and TM) with just some small changes to help correct the problem with the dark water after sun sets.

Both have Skwasjers corrected 2 bugs, so no need to edit anything unless you are running the old ROW reflection and sky controls.

BTW I am only seeing the jiggly water if I press "ctrl + n" or if I load a game where I saved without being in port. It allso looks like you will get the jiggly water effect more if you use the external camera... :hmm:

sneekyzeke
02-11-08, 01:44 PM
Sometimes when i come out of time acceleration, in addition to the jellies, the water appears to rush away from me as if i'm in fast reverse; it's been like that since v1.2 at least. Kinda gives me vertigo for a second, which is cool, 'cause i like beer. Cheers! :dead:

M. Sarsfield
02-11-08, 02:58 PM
The only time that I get this effect is when I forget to turn off my AVG virus scanner. Problem immediately disappears when I switch to desktop and close out AVG.

{V_E_N_O_M}
09-27-09, 11:51 AM
Hi, i have the same problem whit the water, i try mods everything and nothing fix it. If i pause the game the water don`t jiggles, also this apear only in calm sea. Before i isntall the uboat addon 1.5 this issue was not so noticeably but steel exsis. When im on the bridge is very noticeably, all the ocean jiggles, its awfully. and underwater too, ruining the water animation. I use XP and 8800gts 320 2gigs of ram and core duo 6420, 2.13 the game run at max settings on 1680x1050, 60pfs. Now i play SH3 this water bug make me crazy i dont know if any one know how to fix it, also am a bit worried if SHV use this water rendering metod and the water behave the same way.

vickers03
09-27-09, 12:55 PM
do you have vsync enabled?
tried real environment?
does it only jiggle when you move the camera?

Armistead
09-27-09, 03:55 PM
Can you reset the water with Control-N? If it's just a random thing, that usually works for all the water glitches. It's a sonar command, but if you use it at the cam it resets the screen. Also clears the weather, so be careful....

Webster
09-27-09, 07:36 PM
wow? i havent seen a jello water thread since v1.3 lol

Armistead
09-27-09, 07:52 PM
My graphics are fine. Once in a blue moon if I use the next cam on another ship I''ll get choppy or real fast water. Never happens to my screen or in my area, just using the next cam.....when Control N comes in handy

{V_E_N_O_M}
09-28-09, 03:21 AM
do you have vsync enabled?
tried real environment?
does it only jiggle when you move the camera?

Yes it only jiggle when i move the camera, when i use the free camera stationary the water is fine and when on the bridge and not moving the sub. I try Real environment mod and the water behave the same way. Try Ctrl+n but the water still jiggles. I also turn off the vsync, but nothing change.

miner1436
09-28-09, 05:15 PM
Yes it only jiggle when i move the camera, when i use the free camera stationary the water is fine and when on the bridge and not moving the sub. I try Real environment mod and the water behave the same way. Try Ctrl+n but the water still jiggles. I also turn off the vsync, but nothing change.

I have the same problem.

Wilcke
09-29-09, 10:56 AM
Yes it only jiggle when i move the camera, when i use the free camera stationary the water is fine and when on the bridge and not moving the sub. I try Real environment mod and the water behave the same way. Try Ctrl+n but the water still jiggles. I also turn off the vsync, but nothing change.

Please post a list of your activated mods via JSGME. That will give folks an idea of what maybe happening. The TC issue was a problem at one time but again it depended on what mod one was running.

Happy Hunting!

{V_E_N_O_M}
10-01-09, 01:45 AM
Please post a list of your activated mods via JSGME. That will give folks an idea of what maybe happening. The TC issue was a problem at one time but again it depended on what mod one was running.

Happy Hunting!

The only mod i use was real environment, but now i made a fresh install of the game, with mod or without the water still is the same.

vickers03
10-01-09, 01:58 AM
try some other environment mods, some have
more, some less jiggle.