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Laufen zum Ziel
02-01-08, 10:32 AM
First adopted by the Royal Navy, the long barrelled 50-caliber Molins gun was added to the Mosquito airframe as an anti-tank gun but Costal Command used the Tsetse in the role of sub-busting. If anyone is interested there are more pictures,http://www.svsm.org/articles/mosquitofbxviii/Mosquito-01.jpg

Sailor Steve
02-01-08, 10:35 AM
OUCH! No, I don't like that! Make it go away!:rotfl: :rock:

NealT
02-01-08, 10:41 AM
I hate mosquitos...pesky little critters...all the more reson to swat them from the sky...

STEED
02-01-08, 12:27 PM
If anyone makes that then we are all doomed.

Dowly
02-01-08, 12:36 PM
From GWX 2.0:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/TseTse.jpg

onelifecrisis
02-01-08, 12:40 PM
:o

I want my mummy.

Dowly
02-01-08, 12:42 PM
:o

I want my mummy.

:rotfl::rotfl:

STEED
02-01-08, 12:42 PM
We're doomed. :damn:

JCWolf
02-01-08, 12:55 PM
:o Now I get what the GWX team wants for our future!

This is the way to get us killed before 1942 year starts !:dead:

Jimbuna
02-01-08, 03:30 PM
From GWX 2.0:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/TseTse.jpg

Beat me to it ;)

wildchild
02-01-08, 04:08 PM
am i right in saying that this ider was used later to make the A10 tank buster :hmm:

Laufen zum Ziel
02-01-08, 04:28 PM
This is even more frightning. It's what is inside the Mosquitohttp://www.svsm.org/articles/mosquitofbxviii/MolinsA1.jpg

Pablo
02-01-08, 09:51 PM
am i right in saying that this ider was used later to make the A10 tank buster :hmm: Hi!

No, the Mosquito-Tsetse carried a 6-pounder (57mm) Molins antitank gun; it was semi-automatic, with a rate of fire of about one round per second, and could penetrate over 60mm of armor plate at a range of 1 km, easily punching a hole in a U-boat's pressure hull.

The A-10 has a 7-barreled 30mm antitank Gatling gun that shoots about 70 depleted uranium rounds per second. These rounds can penetrate 38mm of hardened armor at a range of 1 km, and 69mm at a range of 500 yards, and so would also have punched through the U-boats pressure hull, but with many more holes.

Pablo

Sailor Steve
02-01-08, 10:45 PM
The original post said 50 caliber and I wondered from the look of the thing if it wasn't 50mm. Fifty-seven millimeters, eh?

On the other hand, Japanese sailors had to face this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/040315-F-9999G-005.jpg

That's a 75mm field gun in the nose of that B-25-G

JU_88
02-02-08, 03:32 AM
Like the Tesse, the A10s gun is no longer powerful enough to penetrate modern modern tank armour, so its now used against helicopters, one to two hits from it will bring down any known chopper. Both aircraft were given alternative roles due to advances in tank technology.

melnibonian
02-02-08, 04:25 AM
We're doomed. :damn:
No mate we are not doomed.......We're F&*^ED :damn: :damn:

nikbear
02-02-08, 06:09 AM
The original post said 50 caliber and I wondered from the look of the thing if it wasn't 50mm. Fifty-seven millimeters, eh?

On the other hand, Japanese sailors had to face this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/040315-F-9999G-005.jpg

That's a 75mm field gun in the nose of that B-25-G

DEAR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!.............run and hide:o :huh: :dead:

Koondawg
02-02-08, 06:28 AM
DEAR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!.............run and hide

.................................................. .....................:huh:

papa_smurf
02-02-08, 07:11 AM
DEAR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!.............run and hide:o :huh: :dead:

Just go back to the bar, and never leave the sub pen.

Jimbuna
02-02-08, 10:24 AM
Sail along the coast, snorchel for 6 weeks, then return ;)

-SWCowboy.
02-02-08, 11:04 AM
If you must surface, do it at nite :o

gimpy117
02-02-08, 08:14 PM
Stop giving more guns to the british!!!!

Graf Paper
02-02-08, 08:28 PM
ASW Aircraft with field artillery mounted? :huh:

Putting tank busters on ASW patrols is just plain wrong!:nope:

PLEASE tell us you didn't add that B-25 in GWX! :o

If you see any men in black leather trenchcoats looking for an AWOL Kaleun, just tell them I volunteered for the Eastern Front where life is so much more safe!

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to grab my bullhorn and go trot around naked in front of Russian lines while shouting insults about Stalin and the proletariat. At least I can expect to live longer this way.

CapZap1970
02-02-08, 09:30 PM
ASW Aircraft with field artillery mounted? :huh:

Putting tank busters on ASW patrols is just plain wrong!:nope:

PLEASE tell us you didn't add that B-25 in GWX! :o

If you see any men in black leather trenchcoats looking for an AWOL Kaleun, just tell them I volunteered for the Eastern Front where life is so much more safe!

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to grab my bullhorn and go trot around naked in front of Russian lines while shouting insults about Stalin and the proletariat. At least I can expect to live longer this way.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Very true!!! :yep:
CapZap

Hartmann
02-02-08, 11:26 PM
Another powerful weapon but is not for british planes

"
In 1942, the need for an effective antitank weapon led to the construction of the final variant. The Ju. 87 G-1 was characterized by the installation of two 37 mm BK 3.7 cannons beneath its wings. The cannon proved to be a deadly and effective weapon and the G-1 a stable platform for its role. The cannon weighed 801 lbs (363 kg) and was fed by six-shot loaders. The G-1 was derived from mounting the cannon on a D-5 airframe. Most of these aircraft were used against russia and on the eastern front. It was in this aircraft that hans rudel scored his remarkable record of no fewer than 519 Soviet tanks destroyed .

Sailor Steve
02-02-08, 11:36 PM
The Germans also used a 50mm cannon in the nose of an Me-410 to attack B-17s. Unfortunately the only way to hit one was to sit a precise distance behind the bomber box, which left the attackers very vulnerable to counter-attack by the escorts.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Me_410_with_BK50.jpg/180px-Me_410_with_BK50.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Me_410_with_BK50.jpg)

Pablo
02-03-08, 12:02 AM
ASW Aircraft with field artillery mounted? :huh:

Putting tank busters on ASW patrols is just plain wrong!:nope:

PLEASE tell us you didn't add that B-25 in GWX! :o
Hi!

The B-25G's successor, the B-25H, was a purpose-built strafing machine, with a 75mm cannon, eight forward-firing 0.50-caliber machine guns, eight 5-inch air-to-ground rockets, and six 500-lb bombs; however, the 75mm cannon was not that successful in either aircraft since the bomber could only get off about four shots on each strafing run, and the gun had a strong recoil. Fortunately for most of you U-boat skippers, it was used primarily in the Pacific to shoot up Japanese cargo ships and ground targets.

B-25s were pressed into service as ASW patrollers off the U.S. east coast during Operation Paukenschlag, but they were the older B-25B, -C, etc., medium bombers with just a single 0.50-caliber machine gun in the nose.

We didn't put the B-25 in GWX this time since we thought rocket-armed B-24's would be enough; however, it seems we may have been mistaken about that... :arrgh!:

Pablo

NealT
02-03-08, 08:46 AM
As I recall...both the Hurricane and the Typhoon had some fairly effective tank/sub busting weapons slung from the wings...

bigboywooly
02-03-08, 10:07 AM
As I recall...both the Hurricane and the Typhoon had some fairly effective tank/sub busting weapons slung from the wings...

:yep:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/AAF-H-DDay-p15.jpg

Graf Paper
02-03-08, 11:18 AM
We didn't put the B-25 in GWX this time since we thought rocket-armed B-24's would be enough; however, it seems we may have been mistaken about that...

Can some kind soul lend me 50 bucks? Guido says he'll need that much more for gas money and spare ammo if he's going to hit every name on the list of GWX devs. :p

I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid about leaving port and being harassed while Im at sea!:gulp:

Kpt. Lehmann
02-03-08, 12:34 PM
The B-24 isn't the only ASW aircraft armed with rockets in GWX.

Teehee.:lol:

Sailor Steve
02-03-08, 01:11 PM
The B-25G's successor, the B-25H, was a purpose-built strafing machine, with a 75mm cannon, eight forward-firing 0.50-caliber machine guns...
Not quite true. It was convertible. It could carry the 75mm gun and four machine guns; or eight machine guns plus side-packs under the cockpit, for a total of twelve; or a glass bombardier's nose.

Water boy
02-03-08, 04:26 PM
For those interested,
These taken at the Mosquito museum just down the road from me, actually its the dehavilland museum.
Its where the 'Mossie' was developed and has a lot of DH aircraft and stuff, there is I'm sure, one of these Tsetse guns there but I didn't take a photo.
Anyhow its really small, without kids who can get into and play pilot in several aircraft, its about 1,5 hrs to see the lot.
Its just off J22 M25, if heading West take the exit, take first left and its half a mile down on the right.
I took a photo of the plaque outside, wrong angle but to get it needed flash and flash in front of stainless = no picture. It did have a prop above it but see the link.

http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee100/M0ttiebucket/mixed012.jpg
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If you've watched 633 Squadron where the little scots fella stands next to the pilot leaning casually on the back of his seat - forget it, there's no room........

Jimbuna
02-03-08, 04:50 PM
Great shots....here's one out of the GWX museum (nothing near as cool as yours) :up:

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7742/mosquitotsetsecq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sniper_Fox
02-04-08, 04:16 PM
AAALAAAAAARMMMM!!!!!:damn: