Map - Japanese Shipping Lanes in Pacific

[Reece]

Just found this on web, a map of Japanese shipping lanes during WW2 (see legend)::yep:
http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1/Images/p_047.jpg (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1/ch06.htm#p163)

[jasondef]

Cool. The one major difference I notice with the game map is the game map shows a lot more traffic to and from Kobe. But a pretty close representation overall it seems.

[donut]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9657/p047tyi8.jpg (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)

[eatmafish]

thanks for the up. Gonna be useful in anti-shipping missions.:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9657/p047tyi8.jpg (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)


:rock: yes it would.



Lurker, LukeFF, Swdw,Kriller..........can any one of you get this ingame? Would be great on the navigators table also.

[C DuDe]

It would be great yes...

I only have 1 but to it... I see there's no traffic at Fromosa (Luzon Straights) at all, which is weird, as in game when sent there you have some good hunting (sunk me a Fuso, Kongo and a few passenger liners).

[SteveHump]

Thank you, Reece. There are interesting maps in the previous chapter which show the detail of the SW Pacific islands, including one that gives Japanese positions in the Solomons. While we submerged turtles don't really have to worry too much about the details of the landlocked enemy, I wonder how much shoreline detail has been programmed into the AI. Oh well, I like maps, and the reference you provided is great reading too. Thanks again.

[AkbarGulag]

Now thats a great find.

Pull down map ftw!

Amazing to see the japs could still operate ships all the way to Timor if needed in late 44. I guess by that stage the clearness of the routes was less important than the fact they were running out of boats.

Good to read something with the New Zealander's in it also. We would have done far more in the pacific if we weren't so busy trying to save England. Sometimes strategic imperatives are a real pain in the backside :-?

I don't know how well known it is, but the NZ airforce also operated from US carriers in the pacific. They were known for their style of dropping onto the carrier decks... hard and fast. It's amazing when I see some footage of it in doco's, with the intention to let the viewer think they are Americans. It's even more impressive that the Americans allowed us to use our own doctrine while on their vessels. Especially considering how reckless they thought we were ^^

[Digital_Trucker]

Lurker, LukeFF, Swdw,Kriller..........can any one of you get this ingame? Would be great on the navigators table also.

Gonna have to look at the navigators table and see if there are any mods that affect that graphic, but just for the fun of it, I put together a pull down for anyone using Captain Cox's pull down map, one for TM and one for RFB (which can also be used on stock). I haven't tried out either TM or RFB since I don't use either mod, but if there are any problems with those versions, let me know and I'll get it right.

Traffic Map - Captain Cox version (http://files.filefront.com/Traffic+Map+Captain+Coxnrar/;9553846;/fileinfo.html)

Traffic Map - TM version (http://files.filefront.com/Traffic+Map+Trigger+Marurar/;9553849;/fileinfo.html)

Traffic Map - RFB and stock version (http://files.filefront.com/Traffic+Map+RFBrar/;9554011;/fileinfo.html)

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?

[Digital_Trucker]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?

Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

DT, you always come through in the pinch! I will definitely give this a go!

[DrBeast]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?
Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:

Or, in the words of Martin Walkyier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_(band)), Deja Vu Ain't What It Used To Be :cool:

[JREX53]

Digital_Trucker,

I just tried your pull-down map mod for the stock game and only a small corner of the map is being shown. I am running at 1280x1024 5:4 60Hz resolution.

I tried downloading a second time and it does the same thing.:damn:

I tried using the mod for Trigger Maru and it worked great.
Haven't tried it with RFB thou.

Do you have any suggestions.
Thanks

[Digital_Trucker]

Digital_Trucker,

I just tried your pull-down map mod for the stock game and only a small corner of the map is being shown. I am running at 1280x1024 5:4 60Hz resolution.

I tried downloading a second time and it does the same thing.:damn:

I tried using the mod for Trigger Maru and it worked great.
Haven't tried it with RFB thou.

Do you have any suggestions.
Thanks

Not to be a smart alec or anything, but did you read the installation instructions in the documentation folder? Some changes have to be made to the menu.ini file in order for the map to display. I included the section that needs to be changed in a .txt file if you want to paste it in manually and a .ini file for JimiMadrid's JTxE program if you want to make the changes that way. The reason the TM version works is that TM already has a pulldown with the same specifications and only the graphic file needs to be changed. The same goes for anyone using Captain Cox's pull down map (or any mod that includes it, ie MHSMC). I really should have stressed that when I put the links up:oops:

If you did one of those and it still doesn't work right, let me know and I'll see what the problem is.

[JREX53]

Digital_Trucker,

I just looked at the Documentation Folder and the only file there was
InstallationInstruction file and this is all it said:

"Enable with JSGME and have fun!

Credits to Captain Cox for the original pull down map."

There was only 2 files in the mod, that I could see, the usergramophone.dds and
InstallationInstruction.txt files.

So I am a little confused,:hmm: Not trying to be a Pain.
I really like your mods.

PS I think Capt Cox also made a mod that put the map on the navigation table

[Digital_Trucker]

Oops, I may have forgottent to put something in there:oops: Lemme check. Which one were you looking at, the RFB, TM or Captain Cox version? The RFB/stock is the only one that needs the menu.ini change. And don't worry about being a pain (which you're not, BTW), if it doesn't work, then we'll hammer it 'till it does

and yep, CC did make a map table mod. I still need to check to see what other mods change that texture to see if there needs to be more than one version.

[Digital_Trucker]

I just double checked my copy of the RFB version and the one on Filefront and they both have the correct installation directions in them. If yours doesn't, I'd download it again and check it.

[JREX53]

I actually downloaded all 3, but the one giving me
problems was for the stock install. (ie the captain cox version)

Thank you,

[Digital_Trucker]

That's where the confusion lies. The one for stock is actually the RFB version. The CC version is only for an installation that already has CC's pull down installed. Hope that clears it up.

[JREX53]

OK. My mistake.:88)

Thanks for setting me straight.:up:

[Digital_Trucker]

No problemo, dude:cool: Enjoy!

[Doolittle81]

What is the value of the detailed map unless the Campaign MODs (I use RSRDC) have written convoys/shipping which matches the Map? I mean, the map looks nice and provides historical detail/accuracy, but does RSRDC (for example) 'match' these routes precisely? Or, is this map just for 'show', 'immersion'.

[Digital_Trucker]

I can't speak for Lurker, but if the map is historically correct (within reason) and RSRDC is historically correct (within reason), then shouldn't the two be reasonably close to in-game reality?


I use RSRDC myself and have caught traffic in places that are shown as traffic areas on the map. To me, it's more of a suggestion of where to look for traffic rather than a "be all, end all" of places to find traffic in the game.

[Doolittle81]

I can't speak for Lurker, but if the map is historically correct (within reason) and RSRDC is historically correct (within reason), then shouldn't the two be reasonably close to in-game reality? ....

Your Logic seems solid. Unless Lurker stipulates otherwise, then, with regard to any specific differences between RSRDC and this map, I'll proceed to use the Map.

[DrBeast]

I can't speak for Lurker, but if the map is historically correct (within reason) and RSRDC is historically correct (within reason), then shouldn't the two be reasonably close to in-game reality? ....
Your Logic seems solid. Unless Lurker stipulates otherwise, then, with regard to any specific differences between RSRDC and this map, I'll proceed to use the Map.

Aye aye, same here! :up:

[Sailor Steve]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?
Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:

Or, in the words of Martin Walkyier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_(band)), Deja Vu Ain't What It Used To Be :cool:
DT's quote was from the inimitable Yogi Berra, who was famous not only as a baseball player but for his 'Yogi-isms'. Beast, your guy actually ripped off another Yogi quote, "The future ain't what it used to be."
http://www.yogiberra.com/yogi-isms.html

[Digital_Trucker]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?
Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:

Or, in the words of Martin Walkyier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_(band)), Deja Vu Ain't What It Used To Be :cool:
DT's quote was from the inimitable Yogi Berra, who was famous not only as a baseball player but for his 'Yogi-isms'. Beast, your guy actually ripped off another Yogi quote, "The future ain't what it used to be."
http://www.yogiberra.com/yogi-isms.html

Leave it to Steve to know this stuff:rotfl: . I didn't even know (consciously) that I was quoting the "Yogster". Wherever you are, Yogi, my apologies for my copying plagiarism (double redundancy intended:arrgh!: )

Edit : BTW and totally off the originally off topic, thanks for the pointer to Skyclad, Beast. I've been wanting something different to listen to and they are certainly different. Kinda like an Ozzy Osbourne meets Jethro Tull kinda sound.

[DrBeast]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?
Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:
Or, in the words of Martin Walkyier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_%28band%29), Deja Vu Ain't What It Used To Be :cool: DT's quote was from the inimitable Yogi Berra, who was famous not only as a baseball player but for his 'Yogi-isms'. Beast, your guy actually ripped off another Yogi quote, "The future ain't what it used to be."
http://www.yogiberra.com/yogi-isms.html
Leave it to Steve to know this stuff:rotfl: . I didn't even know (consciously) that I was quoting the "Yogster". Wherever you are, Yogi, my apologies for my copying plagiarism (double redundancy intended:arrgh!: )

Edit : BTW and totally off the originally off topic, thanks for the pointer to Skyclad, Beast. I've been wanting something different to listen to and they are certainly different. Kinda like an Ozzy Osbourne meets Jethro Tull kinda sound.

It was a Skyclad trademark to use word games and paraphrases in their lyrics. It's what really set them apart from any other metal group, IMHO. Their music wasn't all that bad either ;)

And to bring this train back on track (great, now I have The Great Brain Robbery stuck in my head!), I think this map will become my captain's next best friend :yep:

[Nuc]

Funny another m8 and I were just talking about that. Deja Vu anyone?
Yes, it's like Deja Vu all over again.:hmm:
Or, in the words of Martin Walkyier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_%28band%29), Deja Vu Ain't What It Used To Be :cool: DT's quote was from the inimitable Yogi Berra, who was famous not only as a baseball player but for his 'Yogi-isms'. Beast, your guy actually ripped off another Yogi quote, "The future ain't what it used to be."
http://www.yogiberra.com/yogi-isms.html
Leave it to Steve to know this stuff:rotfl: . I didn't even know (consciously) that I was quoting the "Yogster". Wherever you are, Yogi, my apologies for my copying plagiarism (double redundancy intended:arrgh!: )

Edit : BTW and totally off the originally off topic, thanks for the pointer to Skyclad, Beast. I've been wanting something different to listen to and they are certainly different. Kinda like an Ozzy Osbourne meets Jethro Tull kinda sound.

It was a Skyclad trademark to use word games and paraphrases in their lyrics. It's what really set them apart from any other metal group, IMHO. Their music wasn't all that bad either ;)

And to bring this train back on track (great, now I have The Great Brain Robbery stuck in my head!), I think this map will become my captain's next best friend :yep:

I was down at the Groton sub base museum last week and they had picture of the sub base baseball team which Yogi Berra played on. This is from an interview at the link below:

Q:So when you came back from World War II, did you go straight back to baseball?

Yogi Berra: Yeah. I had played one year in Norfolk, Virginia, and when I came back to Norfolk again, they said, "We're going to send you up to the submarine base." I said, "Wait a minute. I didn't volunteer for any submarines. I'm not going..."

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/ber0int-3

[JamMasterJR]

Great link! One note: the legend on the Army site is "Enemy Shipping Routes Destroyed during the New Guinea Campaign".

The direct link for the high-resolution image (3.56MB) is http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1/Images/p_047.jpg


Just found this on web, a map of Japanese shipping lanes during WW2 (see legend)::yep:
http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1/Images/p_047.jpg (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/MacArthur%20Reports/MacArthur%20V1/ch06.htm#p163)