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kapitan_zur_see
01-20-08, 09:25 PM
Hi captains! :arrgh!:

Following some very stubborned attempts at importing a 3dmodel inside SH4 and making its texture to work, i've finally made it :know:
I've had to deal with certain restrictions so as for now, it doesn't quite match the level of quality we'll be able to reach in a near future, especially regarding how light reacts on the model... But can't say i'm quite proud :rotfl:Skwasjer will know why lol :lol:

Ok, as some of you may already knows, US submarines of that era were using 4 blades propellers during war instead of the 3 blades one the devs modelled. So i've modelled one myself and got it retextured. Propellers have now their own separate texture also instead of sharing a tiny part of the hull general texture (hence very low-res).
I'm releasing the balao as for today since ,first, i gotta have to sleep :rotfl:and second, so you can test it and give feedbacks and comments on how to improve it.

First, some little comparison...
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3033/4bladevl8.jpg

It's 100% latest ROW COMPATIBLE. All you have to do is installing it AFTER ROW (or ROW would overwrite it...)

...CLICK ON THE PROPELLER TO DOWNLOAD...
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5729/propvy6.jpg (http://www.4shared.com/file/35420459/6fbe5f7a/Balao_4_blade_prop.html)

Hope you'll like it!!

ReallyDedPoet
01-20-08, 09:32 PM
Very nice work :yep::up:


RDP

Donner
01-20-08, 09:35 PM
All that hard work and you then use a three-bladed propellor for a download icon! :o :rotfl:

GREAT WORK!! :rock:

kapitan_zur_see
01-20-08, 09:45 PM
All that hard work and you then use a three-bladed propellor for a download icon! :o :rotfl:

GREAT WORK!! :rock:
Oops! lol i just realised that :rotfl:just changed it...

skwasjer
01-20-08, 09:50 PM
All that hard work and you then use a three-bladed propellor for a download icon! :o :rotfl:

GREAT WORK!! :rock:
The past week I've seen some funny postings in here. Kriller2 posting beautiful environmental screenshots with his two scopes up, me posting beautiful ROW shots with a mousecursor at the center of the screen, Kriller2 teasing me for doing this, then doing it himself in another thread (:rotfl: ), Ducimus whining S3D is too cool for him to stop modding (yes!! :ping:), and now this... :88):88)

Anyway, nice job kapitan, next goal: AO map! :up:

kapitan_zur_see
01-20-08, 09:59 PM
All that hard work and you then use a three-bladed propellor for a download icon! :o :rotfl:

GREAT WORK!! :rock: The past week I've seen some funny postings in here. Kriller2 posting beautiful environmental screenshots with his two scopes up, me posting beautiful ROW shots with a mousecursor at the center of the screen, Kriller2 teasing me for doing this, then doing it himself in another thread (:rotfl: ), Ducimus whining S3D is too cool for him to stop modding (yes!! :ping:), and now this... :88):88)

Anyway, nice job kapitan, next goal: AO map! :up:

wait,wait,wait! i've changed that propeller now... ;)
People seems to have focused more on this lol than on the mod :rotfl:
As for the AO, can't say i'm not looking forward to start working on them :smug:
they're easy to get on 3Dsmax, so don't expect lots of problem on this side :smug:

Will-Rommel
01-20-08, 11:01 PM
I wish i command a Balao right now !

My Sargo's jealous. :yep:

panthercules
01-21-08, 12:38 AM
Looks intriguing, and waaaayyy over my head from a modding capability perspective. Can't wait to see this released for all the boats. One question though - I noticed that the prop blade pitch on the 4-bladed prop appears to be reversed from the 3-bladed picture, and I remember seeing a lot of discussions in threads a while back about whether the devs had the props turning the wrong way (but I can't remember the outcome or whether it ever got fixed if it was a problem) - was this reversal of the blade pitch on the 4-bladed prop in your picture on purpose and are these new ones now historically correct in terms of their rotation?

donut
01-21-08, 01:03 AM
Been a waiting for these:up:

JSF
01-21-08, 01:11 AM
Looks intriguing, and waaaayyy over my head from a modding capability perspective. Can't wait to see this released for all the boats. One question though - I noticed that the prop blade pitch on the 4-bladed prop appears to be reversed from the 3-bladed picture, and I remember seeing a lot of discussions in threads a while back about whether the devs had the props turning the wrong way (but I can't remember the outcome or whether it ever got fixed if it was a problem) - was this reversal of the blade pitch on the 4-bladed prop in your picture on purpose and are these new ones now historically correct in terms of their rotation?

His blades have the correct pitch. The wheels in the game are not turning the right way.

Torps
01-21-08, 02:02 AM
been waiting for these for a longggggggggggggggggg time.

I also ran across this. The starboard prop is is hitting the stern dive plane, a very long prop shaft I think :up:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9868/propbk7.jpg

kapitan_zur_see
01-21-08, 05:28 AM
been waiting for these for a longggggggggggggggggg time.

I also ran across this. The starboard prop is is hitting the stern dive plane, a very long prop shaft I think :up:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9868/propbk7.jpg
Nice finding! gonna have to correct this for sure! that's why you make beta release lol ;)
It seems that the right propeller model was not an exact copy of the left one as i thought in the first place... Gonna have to check also if it's turning the other side so as to know if mirroring it is needed (if not painfull to do lol)

Next Test release on the Sargo (for will-rommel ;))
Techniques will be refined:
I'll check first if higher-res for more details is worth it vs optimization (you have to remember this mods makes your PC handle another 512x512 texture, but you gonna have to think ahead of future mods and their impacts on FPS)
May test some "false" shaded light on the texture to counter the restrictions in terms of rendition i must face for now (actually, the model is rendered "using" SH3 like engine capabilities instead of SH4)
Left and right propellers will still uses the same texture but will have their own different UVW mapping coordinates so corroded and barnacles parts on the blades do not appear on the exact same places on both of them
Will correct this shaft problemStay tuned :arrgh!:

AVGWarhawk
01-21-08, 08:35 AM
Absolutely brilliant work:rock:. I can not thank you enough for this major correction.

Torps
01-21-08, 11:03 AM
Nothing wrong with beta releases, her Kapitan . Shoot me all the test beta's ya want:up:

kapitan_zur_see
01-21-08, 02:46 PM
have refined the technique in the early afternoon...
No more beta, i'm about to release the entire mod (i.e all subs) in the next hours or so ;)


Will feature higer-res texture
each propeller as it own pitch so now, left and right propellers turns the right way (i.e they're "mirrored")
Shaft correctedThanks for the feedback ;)
in the meantime, stay tuned

Will-Rommel
01-21-08, 02:54 PM
Well done!

AVGWarhawk
01-21-08, 03:00 PM
Super nice and great work!!!

kriller2
01-22-08, 01:11 AM
:cool: Nice work Kapitan..

swdw
01-22-08, 02:25 AM
What- no bright shiny props? Wassa matter- you don't send divers overboard to polish the prop blades and hub? :88)
Shame on you.:p

I'll bet you don't polish your brass on board either :D

Looking good!!!!- like your prop texture better (which is why I harrassed you about it;))

Looks like another mod we'll need to roll into RFB. Can't have a "real" fleet boat with a 3 bladed prop.:)

Kpt. Lehmann
01-22-08, 06:09 AM
"The file link that you requested is not valid." :(

GOZO
01-22-08, 06:14 AM
Thanks.

I was looking at USS haddock yesterday wondering exactly about the thing you just have fixed.

Great work.:D

Mush Martin
01-22-08, 06:23 AM
I cant get this one.

everytime I press on the link (4bladed)
I get this

The file link that you requested is not valid. Please contact link publisher

so I thought I would contact you.
M

[edit] I see now that you have released an all boats version thats why
disregard this post.

USS_Trigger
01-22-08, 10:11 PM
i too am getting the same error, so sadly for now my dear USS Lionfish will remain a three bladed deformed freak :-P

Donner
01-22-08, 10:21 PM
i too am getting the same error, so sadly for now my dear USS Lionfish will remain a three bladed deformed freak :-P

This mod was updated this morning for all boats except S-class. See this link for new download...http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129367

:ping:

Edit: Locking this thread to prevent confusion.