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USS_Trigger
01-18-08, 10:37 PM
currently in the game as nightime falls, the sub is "rigged for red" however on the few ww2 subs that i have been on it has actually been blue not red, i was wondering if it is possible to change the interior lighting at night time to blue. i would imagine that its just a matter of changing a filter from red to blue, i may be wrong, but it just drives me nuts. as i play on 100% realism it makes me feell like in back in sh3 in a u-boat

Ducimus
01-18-08, 10:41 PM
VERY easy to change.

I like the blue myself, but left it alone because i thought the red filter was historically accurate. I know the S class rigs for blue, but if anyone can provide some evidence that other boats indeed rigged for blue, id be more then happy to change them. Although anyone here can change them very easily with S3D, you really dont need me to do it for you.

USS_Trigger
01-18-08, 11:02 PM
i only say this because i have been on the uss lionfish many times atleast 3-4 times a year, its a balao class, and in both the control room and the conn have the blue lighting. however during the war it may have been different as it was used up into the 1960s for training

Lt commander lare
01-18-08, 11:06 PM
hi ducimus i have never used S3D and would like the blue can you tell me how to change this since im not familiar with it i would greatley appreciate your help

lt commander lare

Lt commander lare
01-18-08, 11:07 PM
and also where do i get S3D

lt commander lare

USS_Trigger
01-18-08, 11:11 PM
yes same here, i have never used it all the modding i do is done through the text files i am able to acess

Donner
01-19-08, 12:24 AM
S3D info here.... http://http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=608770&postcount=1

Lt commander lare
01-19-08, 12:58 AM
ok i downloaded the program can someone tell me how to make the lights blue in the control room and conning tower thanks

lt commander lare

Lt commander lare
01-19-08, 01:20 AM
ducimus i downloaded the program how do i change the lights from red to blue can you please help me with this becuase i know nothing about S3D and its confusing and i need step by step intructions on how to do this then i can change it


lt commander lare

Lt commander lare
01-19-08, 06:38 AM
hi is there anyone here that can tell me exaclty what to do to change the rig for red light from red to blue using S3D im trying but its confusing and i dont know where to go or what to do to change this feature if someone can help me please do thanks

lt commander lare

Hitman
01-19-08, 07:43 AM
the sub is "rigged for red" however on the few ww2 subs that i have been on it has actually been blue not red, i was wondering if it is possible to change the interior lighting at night time to blue

AFAIK, in real WW2 US submarines they rigged for red, and not for blue. Sources are several, and all point in the same direction (At least in fleet boats, not in the S-Boats) in the books I have readed: O'Kane, Calvert, etc. The red light was even responsable for one boat running aground: In the early stages of the war, where that rigging for red was new (As proven by the fact that older S-class boats rigged for blue) one navigator plotted the course under red light (Anything written/painted in red becomes invisible under red light) thus missing that there was a red mark in the map indicating coral reefs :huh: . The boat went aground!

Donner
01-19-08, 11:37 AM
The red light was even responsable for one boat running aground: In the early stages of the war, where that rigging for red was new...one navigator plotted the course under red light (Anything written/painted in red becomes invisible under red light) thus missing that there was a red mark in the map indicating coral reefs :huh: . The boat went aground!

Just curious...do you recall which boat this was? I would like to see how that incident was written up in the patrol report.

Seadogs
01-19-08, 12:33 PM
the sub is "rigged for red" however on the few ww2 subs that i have been on it has actually been blue not red, i was wondering if it is possible to change the interior lighting at night time to blue
AFAIK, in real WW2 US submarines they rigged for red, and not for blue. Sources are several, and all point in the same direction (At least in fleet boats, not in the S-Boats) in the books I have readed: O'Kane, Calvert, etc. The red light was even responsable for one boat running aground: In the early stages of the war, where that rigging for red was new (As proven by the fact that older S-class boats rigged for blue) one navigator plotted the course under red light (Anything written/painted in red becomes invisible under red light) thus missing that there was a red mark in the map indicating coral reefs :huh: . The boat went aground!

Yep the same was resposible for the flooding of a magazine on the Wahoo. Couldn't see the red indicator. :oops:

Hitman
01-19-08, 07:34 PM
Just curious...do you recall which boat this was? I would like to see how that incident was written up in the patrol report.

Sorry I readed it in Blair's "Silent Victory", and finding it there is nearly impossible :oops: The boat apparently didn't get lost, as I have used the index to check all subs which were lost due to reasons other than enemy action, and none was the case.

ReallyDedPoet
01-19-08, 08:05 PM
hi is there anyone here that can tell me exaclty what to do to change the rig for red light from red to blue using S3D im trying but its confusing and i dont know where to go or what to do to change this feature if someone can help me please do thanks

lt commander lare

Post on skwasjer's thread, he may have some suggestions :yep:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119571


RDP

candy2500
01-19-08, 09:32 PM
when the boat gets dammaged The reason why it is blue instead of red is to prevent the crew from seeing wrong colors in the engine room it is necessary during repairs of electrical stuff. The crew needs to see the right colors of the wires they are handling with.

with red lights,Red looks yellow.yellow looks white.green looks black

The crew needs to see the right colors of the wires they are handling, with blue light that eliminates the problem.

AVGWarhawk
01-19-08, 09:55 PM
when the boat gets dammaged The reason why it is blue instead of red is to prevent the crew from seeing wrong colors in the engine room it is necessary during repairs of electrical stuff. The crew needs to see the right colors of the wires they are handling with.

with red lights,Red looks yellow.yellow looks white.green looks black

The crew needs to see the right colors of the wires they are handling, with blue light that eliminates the problem.

That is about the best explanation I have heard thus far. It sounds very logical:up:

skwasjer
01-19-08, 10:09 PM
Here ya go... You'll have to do this for the _CT.dat as well, and the other boats...

You may also want to change the (night) colors of the omni lights (point lights). The only problem is, v0.5.4 doesn't support this yet (you can only change daylight colors). v0.5.5 will support this, coming soon ;)

Also, afaik, the navmap has an overlay tga/dds that is reddish as well...

http://sh4.skwas.net/media/misc/interior_light.gif

Lagger123987
01-19-08, 11:09 PM
For me, rig for green is best.

pythos
01-20-08, 12:06 AM
To my knowledge only the control room, and conning tower had red lighting, to preserve the night vision of the crew headed to watch stations on the bridge. The rest of the boat, engine room, torpedo rooms, crew's quarters, ect, were either white (most likely not), or blue.

The lighting in the USS Pampanito, at San Fransico has it's conning tower bathed in a red light, as seen from the control room.

The S-boat has so little info about it, the blue light is feasable. I like the blue light of the S-boat, but the red of the fleet boat is much more freindly to the night vision.

Lt commander lare
01-20-08, 11:53 AM
after reading the posts i have decided that rig for red is the most historic and i know blue was never used in the conning tower or control room so i have decided to leave it as red

lt commander lare