TM 175 Question

[Zero Niner]

Used to be, in TM174, that the ";" key would send the boat to snorkel depth (or radar depth in SH4).

Now the read me says that this has been mapped to Shift+D and sends the sub *very* deep.

I find the "radar depth" command useful, what can I do to re-enable this?

There's also a 'T' command, which is bound to "toggle snorkel". What does this do?

Thanks.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Used to be, in TM174, that the ";" key would send the boat to snorkel depth (or radar depth in SH4).

Now the read me says that this has been mapped to Shift+D and sends the sub *very* deep.

I find the "radar depth" command useful, what can I do to re-enable this?

There's also a 'T' command, which is bound to "toggle snorkel". What does this do?

Thanks.

I am thinking it had to do with being able to raise lower the SD Antenna, I am sure it could be mapped back in, the Radar Depth.


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[LZ_Baker]

There should now be an option somewhere to raise the radar mast when you are at periscope depth so you do not need to go to radar depth anymore to use the radar.

[Zero Niner]

Thanks. I guess the way it was represented in TM174 wasn't quite historically correct?

The 'T' key extends/retracts the SD radar mast, I think.

Now, I've encountered another problem. I just installed TM175 + RSRDC. I followed Ducimus's instructions on re-enabling the next & previous unit camera. It's the same procedure as in 174 which I did sucessfully, but in 175 pressing the '<' or '>' key shows the ocean but no ship.

Any idea what could be wrong? I've removed the semi colon in front of the key for cmd50 & 51.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Thanks. I guess the way it was represented in TM174 wasn't quite historically correct?

The 'T' key extends/retracts the SD radar mast, I think.

Now, I've encountered another problem. I just installed TM175 + RSRDC. I followed Ducimus's instructions on re-enabling the next & previous unit camera. It's the same procedure as in 174 which I did sucessfully, but in 175 pressing the '<' or '>' key shows the ocean but no ship.

Any idea what could be wrong? I've removed the semi colon in front of the key for cmd50 & 51.

Check RSRD, maybe that mod overrode the Trigger file you edited.


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[dmlavan]

ZeroNiner,
I made the changes to mine and they work (See below). There may be a few other reasons why it doesn't work.
After you select the external camera (F12) and then "Camera on next unit", it should go to your boat. The next time you press it, the camera will shift to the nearest VISIBLE target. What I've learned is that if the other ship is not within VISUAL range of your boat (i.e. your deck crew has spotted them or you can see them through the periscope) then the camera will not go to them.

[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Ducimus]

RE SD Radar mast and radar depth:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=732975&postcount=17
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=733850&postcount=60


RE, Why did i remap snorkel depth from radar depth to deep diving?
Allows me to keep the D key, "dive planes set to normal dive" functinality of leveling you off at your saftey depth.


RE: next previous unit camera.
Could be changes made in the ROW camera. I don't use this next/previous cam, so if there was a change to it, i wouldnt have noticed it.

[Zero Niner]

ZeroNiner,
I made the changes to mine and they work (See below). There may be a few other reasons why it doesn't work.
After you select the external camera (F12) and then "Camera on next unit", it should go to your boat. The next time you press it, the camera will shift to the nearest VISIBLE target. What I've learned is that if the other ship is not within VISUAL range of your boat (i.e. your deck crew has spotted them or you can see them through the periscope) then the camera will not go to them.

[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714 It's weird. The camera shifts as it should, eg my sub was underwater so the camera jumped undewater, but the game didn't render the sub or ship. F12 works fine though.

RDP - I made a small mod containing my own commands.cfg file and that is installed last. And I don't think RSRDC changes TM's commands.cfg. I'll remove my own mod & see.

[ReallyDedPoet]

ZeroNiner,
I made the changes to mine and they work (See below). There may be a few other reasons why it doesn't work.
After you select the external camera (F12) and then "Camera on next unit", it should go to your boat. The next time you press it, the camera will shift to the nearest VISIBLE target. What I've learned is that if the other ship is not within VISUAL range of your boat (i.e. your deck crew has spotted them or you can see them through the periscope) then the camera will not go to them.

[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714 It's weird. The camera shifts as it should, eg my sub was underwater so the camera jumped undewater, but the game didn't render the sub or ship. F12 works fine though.

RDP - I made a small mod containing my own commands.cfg file and that is installed last. And I don't think RSRDC changes TM's commands.cfg. I'll remove my own mod & see.

Ok ZN, let us know how you make out :up: I am wondering if there are other changes in the commands.cfg file regarding Trigger that you may overwrite. Not the things that you want to change, but other stuff.

Just keep this in mind during your testing.


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[lurker_hlb3]

ZeroNiner,
I made the changes to mine and they work (See below). There may be a few other reasons why it doesn't work.
After you select the external camera (F12) and then "Camera on next unit", it should go to your boat. The next time you press it, the camera will shift to the nearest VISIBLE target. What I've learned is that if the other ship is not within VISUAL range of your boat (i.e. your deck crew has spotted them or you can see them through the periscope) then the camera will not go to them.

[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Ctxt=1
Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714 It's weird. The camera shifts as it should, eg my sub was underwater so the camera jumped undewater, but the game didn't render the sub or ship. F12 works fine though.

RDP - I made a small mod containing my own commands.cfg file and that is installed last. And I don't think RSRDC changes TM's commands.cfg. I'll remove my own mod & see.


RSRDC "does not" change the command.cfg file

[Zero Niner]

Thanks. What I did was just to map keys to my preference, and saved the commands.cfg under the mods folder. I use the SH4 key configurator for this. That way whichever mod I use I'll always use the same keys. Of course I read the readmes to see if the mod changes anything, keystroke wise.

[Zero Niner]

Update: now everything seems fine. However, I noticed that the camera angles are different now. Previously (TM174) "<" or ">" would snap the view to the starboard side, and you couldn't zoom very close. Now (TM175 + RSRDC) I get a view of the vessel from the forward starboard angle, and I can zoom in all the way past the vessel.
Thanks all.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Update: now everything seems fine. However, I noticed that the camera angles are different now. Previously (TM174) "<" or ">" would snap the view to the starboard side, and you couldn't zoom very close. Now (TM175 + RSRDC) I get a view of the vessel from the forward starboard angle, and I can zoom in all the way past the vessel.
Thanks all.

Ducimus changed some stuff with the cameras, for the better :yep:


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[u.Prestige]

How to use observation periscope while your boat at "periscope depth"?
It just can't get out of water!:cry:

[Zero Niner]

Update: now everything seems fine. However, I noticed that the camera angles are different now. Previously (TM174) "<" or ">" would snap the view to the starboard side, and you couldn't zoom very close. Now (TM175 + RSRDC) I get a view of the vessel from the forward starboard angle, and I can zoom in all the way past the vessel.
Thanks all.
Ducimus changed some stuff with the cameras, for the better :yep:


RDP
Thanks RDP. I agree that the new camera angles look better.

[ReallyDedPoet]

How to use observation periscope while your boat at "periscope depth"?
It just can't get out of water!:cry:

Not sure I follow here, has always worked on this end, O, page up and down to raise and lower. Using TM as a mod.


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[Zero Niner]

Observation periscope is raised and lowered by th eInsert & Delete keys respectively.

[ridgewayranger]

Hi All,
For purposes of historical accuracy, raising radar at periscope depth would be useless since radar depth was 10-15 feet less, as the mast did not go through the pressure hull.
RR