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Drake
01-13-08, 03:31 AM
Well I decided to take on a task force.. I was laying hidden, as 3 Destroyers (i belive all were tribal Class) and 3 Southhampton Class (light cruisers?) steamed by me..

I launched 2 torps at the first cruiser, and both hit.. the destoryers closed in as I intented, and as they got close, I launched a torp with the shallowest depth possible....

It went right under the keel, but no hit:damn:.. I used an Impact pistol btw, the magnetic dont seem to work that well on small ships.

ive tried redo-ing this many times, and every time it goes under the ship... so whats the deal here?.. is it impossible to sink them? :dead:

btw, im using GWX2 if it makes a difference.

GoldenRivet
01-13-08, 03:34 AM
i have found that a magnetic torpedo at 4 meters depth will eliminate just about any DD on the high seas.

try that next time.

of course if you are using manual targeting things get interesting when one is closing in on you from less than 1500 meters and you have to get a "snap shot" solution together in a matter of seconds.

Drake
01-13-08, 03:43 AM
i have found that a magnetic torpedo at 4 meters depth will eliminate just about any DD on the high seas.

try that next time.

of course if you are using manual targeting things get interesting when one is closing in on you from less than 1500 meters and you have to get a "snap shot" solution together in a matter of seconds.

well manual targeting is WAY too confusing for me :hmm:

ill try the magnetic torpedo, but even at 1 metre it seems to go under the DD.... maybe i let him get too close?

GoldenRivet
01-13-08, 04:04 AM
Could be... the torpedo has to travel more than about 300 meters to arm.

Stealth Hunter
01-13-08, 05:21 AM
i have found that a magnetic torpedo at 4 meters depth will eliminate just about any DD on the high seas.

try that next time.

of course if you are using manual targeting things get interesting when one is closing in on you from less than 1500 meters and you have to get a "snap shot" solution together in a matter of seconds.

well manual targeting is WAY too confusing for me :hmm:

ill try the magnetic torpedo, but even at 1 metre it seems to go under the DD.... maybe i let him get too close?

Bah, it's not that hard. You might want to try reading some of the advice threads that this forum has on manual targeting, firing, etc. They can come in handy (we've all had to consult them at one point or another). Threads like that are all like the School of Athens: many great minds (in this case hunters) are sharing their knowledge and tips on "how to sink ships".

Einzelganger
01-13-08, 05:50 AM
It went right under the keel, but no hit:damn:.. I used an Impact pistol btw, the magnetic dont seem to work that well on small ships.

And right there lies your answer. A torpedo used with impact setting will only exploded after actually hitting the target. If it passes under the keel, well, that's about it.

Now a magnetic setting would have given you the desired result in this situation.

I've had no real problems with smaller ships and the magnetic setting. I've actually blown a fishing boat out of the water with one. And i ''mean out of the water'' , it actually flew up pretty high and fast :rotfl:

TomcatMVD
01-13-08, 09:10 AM
Do not use impact! When a DD is heading towards you your AoB is extremely bad for the torp's trigger to get a good hit! So it most surelly will bounce off the hull.
A magnetic does it most of the time

Hanomag
01-13-08, 09:44 AM
Kaluens,

Not trying to hijack this thread BUT...

I have had successful torpedo impacts at 215 meters.. I know that they need 300 m to arm.

So how does this occurr? :hmm:

Brag
01-13-08, 11:06 AM
Do not use impact! When a DD is heading towards you your AoB is extremely bad for the torp's trigger to get a good hit! So it most surelly will bounce off the hull.
A magnetic does it most of the time

That's right, impacts seldom work on a destroyer coming at you, also a torpedo will not arm if a destroyer coming at you is 500 meters or less.

Jimbuna
01-13-08, 11:10 AM
Better using magnetics agaunst escorts because an impact with a magnetic setting will still detonate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Brag
01-13-08, 11:11 AM
Kaluens,

Not trying to hijack this thread BUT...

I have had successful torpedo impacts at 215 meters.. I know that they need 300 m to arm.

So how does this occurr? :hmm:

If the ship is sailing away from you, let's say at 6 knots or faster, it will take longer for the torpedo to reach the target and it needs to cover a longer distance and it will arm at approx 200 meters, I often do 200 meter shots when in fog. Get behind the target, match its course and let him have a magnetic shot. It will explode near the bow and sink it. :D

Boris
01-13-08, 02:29 PM
Better using magnetics agaunst escorts because an impact with a magnetic setting will still detonate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Except in storms where the bloody things blow up halfway to the target.

Drake
01-13-08, 06:00 PM
Thanks for all the responses.. It seems my problem was I was letting him get too close.. even with magnetic it wouldent explode under him. so this time I did things a bit different...

I fired one at the lead Escort, he was crippled. by now they knew where I was, so to hell with Silent running, i put full power and started to close in on the Cruisers. once I had a better angle I launched my rear tube at the escort behind me. it just narrowly hit him on the rear, destroying his rudder, and eventually sinking the ship.. he was down for the count. I fired 3 more torpedos, one at each of the cruisers. 2 were hit on the rear, and one I think the middle.

at this point the 3rd escort was closing in fast. so I started loading my rear tube. he tried DCing me, but I managed to dodge any heavy damage. we cris-crossed about 3 or 4 times before I was ready to strike. and I launched the rear torpedo, hitting right on the bow of the ship. he eventually ran himself into the depths as it quickly flooded.

One of the cruisers was crippled, and limped away at 6 Knots slowly slowing down until its engines flooded. I put another torpedo in her, and she sunk. I caught up to the next ship, making about 8 knots.. I put another in her, and she sunk as well.

the 3rd I couldent find and eventually my game crashed, and my saves seems to be corrupted :huh:

So now im going to try and do it all over. :arrgh!:

Jimbuna
01-14-08, 03:21 AM
Better using magnetics agaunst escorts because an impact with a magnetic setting will still detonate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Except in storms where the bloody things blow up halfway to the target.

Yeah, on occasion :lol:

Sniper_Fox
01-14-08, 10:49 AM
you're a lucky bastard... as soon as a destroyer locates me, its only a matter of time... i rarely can nab him when im detected. if its a flower corvette, ill blow ballasts and take him on with the deck gun... sounds like suicide... but not when you know how to out manouver them.

Jimbuna
01-14-08, 04:41 PM
Not erribly realistic I know....but the best way to deal with a Flower using the deck gun is to surface right behind him http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

gimpy117
01-14-08, 07:30 PM
oh, they can be killed, shoot a torpedo under her keel, about a meter below it.

Puster Bill
01-14-08, 08:13 PM
Hey, if it was THAT easy, they'd be called 'destroyees', not 'destroyers'.

Stealth Hunter
01-15-08, 01:21 AM
In Soviet Russia, destroyer destroys you!:88)

danurve
01-15-08, 10:05 AM
While I don't normaly go after dd/ee's most of the ones I have blasted have been with T1's m/p running 2m. Having said that it is when I detect them first. :ping:

Trying to duke it out with surface ships is maybe a little on the nutzo side. :doh:

Von Schmidt
01-15-08, 07:09 PM
Not me, I take on Flowers with the deck gun, Black Swanns , clemsons and VW I kill on site with a vengenace. During early careers of mine I lost some good crews to these types of DD's. I will pass up a fat tanker to Kill one of the above, BDU gets really pissed at me though.