Uberboat ?

[Sirten Deth]

Is there an "Uberboat" mod for SHIV like in SHIII ? I am a cheater at heart. I play to win (without loses) , losing my men within a game is "ALMOST" as unacceptable as in real life. Death is a gift for the enemy to enjoy.

Happy New Year To All.. And To All A Good Fight.. :yep:

[Mush Martin]

Patience young paduan patience Ive only been in the pacific
three days. here maybe this will wet your whistle a bit.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2007-12-31_134904_718.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2007-12-31_111310_390.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2007-12-31_111358_015.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2007-12-31_135018_109.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-01_041903_875.jpg
Albeit a productive three days I am working some other projects upfront first though.
Now in truth theres a few uber like shiv mods I havent tried but Im told
are pretty fun so if you would like try them out for now but rest assured

Something wicked this way comes
M:arrgh!:

[AVGWarhawk]

You are a nut Mush! I guess I will be making a sticky of this when ready? :p

[Sirten Deth]

I Liike It.....I Liike It :rock: lol Just installed SHIV lastnite, also DLed JSGME , ROW (10 parts) , also P 1.4 Have not started a game yet. Will see what else I can find then begin. Thank You VERY much..:up:

[Fincuan]

Here's an Überboat for you guys :)

Yep, those are 5 inch guns
http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/guns1.jpg

You wouldn't want to look at them from this angle
http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/guns2.jpg

In action
http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/guns3.jpg

[phil1979]

me wanty

[Sirten Deth]

:hmm: NICE for surface action.. but if a seagull flies over you are dead. NO triple A. Its all in the balance. TY.

[Fincuan]

:hmm: NICE for surface action.. but if a seagull flies over you are dead. NO triple A. Its all in the balance. TY.

That was just an experiment with the guns

By editing the appropriate files you can allow any gun to be installed at any position, for example like this:

Der Fleet-Flak(only twin 20 mms) :lol: No action shots, but I assure you aircraft are not a problem as long as you have ammo

http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/guns4.jpg

[Mush Martin]

Nice Paint once my boats done we should duke it out.:arrgh!:


be advised ammo aint a problem either

[AVGWarhawk]

Oh Lord, it is MM second creation of Frankenboat!!! :o Pieced together and welded to MM specifications to rule the sea and rue the day life was breathed into her.

[Ducimus]

I have to admit, mods like these are fun in their own right.


I'd be lying if i said i never made a global thermal nuclear torpedo, or make a submarine skip accross the water like a speedboat with a dire need for a down draft air wing. Compared to my unpublished shennanigans, the uberboat looks historical!

[Sirten Deth]

:oops: Is it really that easy to edit ? Do these weapons REALLY work in game or are they just "eye candy" ? If it is that easy to do ? How ? I am a NERD I havent even updated my GWX 1.02 to GWX 2 yet, because I dont want to mess up what I have. I just found out there is an update lastnite after making a donation to subsim & found an email from them this AM. I DLed their inst. but I have to go to work (uhg) in an hour & wont git home till about 8:00 am (about 16 hrs). :cry:

[Mush Martin]

In the case of shIV it is easier to a certain extent than SH3
if you go back up to my screenies they are largely of a gun
trials test to make sure they are working and although in
none of the pics there the twin forties dont appear to be
being fired I just didnt get a screenie of that all the guns
I mounted worked fine.

M

[ReallyDedPoet]

In the case of shIV it is easier to a certain extent than SH3
if you go back up to my screenies they are largely of a gun
trials test to make sure they are working and although in
none of the pics there the twin forties dont appear to be
being fired I just didnt get a screenie of that all the guns
I mounted worked fine.

M

More screens man :roll:, get at it :yep:


RDP

[Mush Martin]

I have to admit, mods like these are fun in their own right.


I'd be lying if i said i never made a global thermal nuclear torpedo, or make a submarine skip accross the water like a speedboat with a dire need for a down draft air wing. Compared to my unpublished shennanigans, the uberboat looks historical!

You know thats quite an admission from a respected and succesful
modder with a dedication to improving the game. makes me feel like im
part of the community thanks.:up:

M

[kiwi_2005]

Here's an Überboat for you guys :)

Yep, those are 5 inch guns
http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/guns1.jpg



:rotfl::rotfl:

This looks good! :up:

[Mush Martin]

In the case of shIV it is easier to a certain extent than SH3
if you go back up to my screenies they are largely of a gun
trials test to make sure they are working and although in
none of the pics there the twin forties dont appear to be
being fired I just didnt get a screenie of that all the guns
I mounted worked fine.

M
More screens man :roll:, get at it :yep:


RDP

What did your last one die of being on deck while you were at the gun?
:|\\
First off uberesque like stuff advanced radars and a new view
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-02_221900_328.jpg
followed by a few power screenies of my guns and my radars

.................Oh and my paint the last shot is part of a short series of
the theme I will put over on screenies.

[Mush Martin]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-04_011501_625.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-04_011728_140.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-04_011813_781.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-01_205506_125.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/SH4Img2008-01-02_220426_515.jpg

[ReallyDedPoet]

Thats more like it, now get to work on those combat pics:arrgh!:


RDP

[Mush Martin]

See thats a problem because atm im not doing any combat testing
and in my playing install im playing legit, so it will be a week or two
before my combat cameraman hat goes on.

M

[msb80sc]

Dual 5_25 deck guns, check.
Dual twin 40mm AA guns, check.
And for final exam, dual 16 inch Iowa turrets.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/msb80sc/16inchtest.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/msb80sc/16inchtest1.jpg

[Mush Martin]

Thats quite a feat for a first poster
welcome aboard msb80sc
from the look of things Im sure you will have
a fine time here at subsim even without help.

MM:up:

[Travis Reed]

Been awhile since I mooded the gun on my uboat, not since SH3 and several months ago...and I've forgotten how to do it...:cry:

Would someone care to re-enlighten me as to how to accomplish this?


Wonder if you can fire all three guns on those Iowa turrets...

[Fincuan]

Hahahh... I'd love to see the DD skipper's face when he rushes to take out the sub and comes against the Iowa's guns. Those of Yamato are of course even bigger... :)

Has anyone btw gotten rid of the CTD when firing the twin 40mms?

[Mush Martin]

Hahahh... I'd love to see the DD skipper's face when he rushes to take out the sub and comes against the Iowa's guns. Those of Yamato are of course even bigger... :)

Has anyone btw gotten rid of the CTD when firing the twin 40mms?

What ctd? I havent had one yet but my gun tests have all been
extremely short "Ok the gun is working tests"

?????:hmm:

[Mush Martin]

Been awhile since I mooded the gun on my uboat, not since SH3 and several months ago...and I've forgotten how to do it...:cry:

Would someone care to re-enlighten me as to how to accomplish this?


Wonder if you can fire all three guns on those Iowa turrets...

its a different method in shIV
I guess a good start would be to
just have you examine the upc files
in the games main data folder
make a copy though before you
make any changes

it all opens and edits in a standard
text editor like word or notepad or whatever.
if youve already done it before it wont take
long to figure out and you can always ask for
help.
MM

[Fincuan]

What ctd? I havent had one yet but my gun tests have all been
extremely short "Ok the gun is working tests"

?????:hmm:

I always get a CTD when trying to fire the Twin 40mm gun, and I've seen others complain about the same thing.

edit: USS Balao firing a broadside:

http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tutorial/yamatoguns.jpg

I wonder how they kept her from rolling over :)

[Mush Martin]

I can admit it im man enough :shifty:

Nice Boat:up: it reminds me of the first thing
I ever said to my wife.

[Thendash]

What did you say? Love me because I'm freaking awsome looking?:up: When adding guns to a sub, can they only be placed in certain places or can you move them around? Because I think it'd look better if they were spaced a bit apart. Also, can the watch see through the guns or will you have to rely on the periscope to see outside your sub?

[Xypher]

allright! where the heck can i get my hands on any of the tubs thats been posted on here. i want to take them for a spin!

[Travis Reed]

Guess I'll have to take a look when I get home then. I never did figure out how to put differrent turrets on the SH3 boats, but I worked around that and changed the damage for my 88mm to equal that of the 16" guns from one of the British BBs...and the radius as well...was nice blowing those pesky DDs in half with one shot...

[Travis Reed]

Oh, yeah... Mush, you really should consider trying to implement a set of 4 Twin 5" DP guns like those found on certain US DDs on the Balao (including AA shells) and see how well they can shoot down planes.

[Mush Martin]

Travis you are a gentlemen and a scholar.
M

[Mush Martin]

What did you say? Love me because I'm freaking awsome looking?:up: When adding guns to a sub, can they only be placed in certain places or can you move them around? Because I think it'd look better if they were spaced a bit apart. Also, can the watch see through the guns or will you have to rely on the periscope to see outside your sub?

I havent gotten a look at finucans stuff yet so I cant speak for
all but in my case at least these are simple not complex changes
done with a text editor not a hex editor which is what you would
need to relocate the gun mount on the model. we are just spinning
stuff onto and off of the existing mounts and the big turrets will always
overlap on such a small hull.

M

[Ducimus]

Dual 5_25 deck guns, check.
Dual twin 40mm AA guns, check.
And for final exam, dual 16 inch Iowa turrets.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/msb80sc/16inchtest.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/msb80sc/16inchtest1.jpg


:rotfl: Thats alot of boom!

[msb80sc]

Here's my little test of an upgunned porpoise. It defaults to the late war tower and does have a ctd bug that Fincuan mentioned. If you fire the stern twin 40 it will CTD! Also you cannot man the 16 turrets, think it needs a .cam file for that. Neither of these problems bother me, was planning on the crew manning them anyway. You can equip dual deck guns, 3's, 4's, 5's and 16's, also dual AA guns.

JSGME ready. Have fun.

http://hosted.filefront.com/msb80sc/

[Sailor Steve]

That must be quite a special boat, considering those 16" turrets each weigh 2000 tons!:rotfl:

[Travis Reed]

Hmm, having some difficulty in finding out what weapons are on what ships so I can try putting some on my sub...

[Travis Reed]

Eep! Looks like it's more complicated than I thought...

To do it properly requires far more tweaking than my meager mod on SH3 (where I tweaked the shell damage for the 88mm and the larger gun to do the same damage as a shell from a Brit 16" gun...).

Some questions:

1.
a. Do I have to specify what type of ammo is carried for guns (i.e. 5 in ammo for 5 in guns, 20mm ammo for 20 mm guns)?
b. Or is it assumed that the right type is carried for the guns mounted?

2. Where do I change the amount of ammo carried?

3. Where can I find info on what weapons a particular class of AI ship uses (as I'm looking to use the same guns as a Somers DD)?

4. Any special tools besides S3D and a text editor helpful (as I want to make the new turrets available as an upgrade to all sub classes that have gun mounts)?

[Mush Martin]

Ok Travis its not going to be that straightforward though.

I am currently pumping out a few email lessons on simple text
based modding in shiv its currently going out to RDP and AVG
but if you flip me a pm with your email addy I will send off the
first two emails to you for now. the third hasnt been written
yet.

we arent at the guns yet but will get there right now we are
just going over the orientation of the file structures which is
really what your asking about.

I'm doing it one every couple of days
so it wont be tommorow that your ready but
by two or three weeks from now you will be
ready for that and quite a bit more.
maybe I should just do it on a thread but
that is more time consuming with broader
questions and answers needing more attention.
and I have other projects of priority.

Regards
M

[clayp]

Is it possible to just add one(1) gun to a sub and could we be told how to do this in fairly simple term's?

[Mush Martin]

What gun specifically and in what location then Clay ?

[clayp]

Hi MR Martin thanks for the reply..:D I'm thinking if I could add a 5" gun to the front of the Tambor and maybe Gato class boats..Now keep in mind I'm not very computer savy...:oops:

[Mush Martin]

No Worries Clay its all text based modding and straightforward
enough.

give me a minute to figure out the shortest distance
between two points.

M

[clayp]

No Worries Clay its all text based modding and straightforward
enough.

give me a minute to figure out the shortest distance
between two points.

M

Please take your time sir...I wont be able to do anything today,in fact I have to get off now.Thank you so much for your help and time....:up:

[Sirten Deth]

:hmm: Morning everyone I just got home from work. I also would like a SIMPLE walkthrough. I would like to start a new career in a "Tambor" or "Gar" class boat (limited selection) with fore & aft 5" mains and 1 single 40mm, 1 twin 20mm AA (boy I do like those quad 20mm on my SHIII uber). Which lines in which files to edit. What about ammo & crew ? Change what to what ?? Guess I had better take my shower, etc then check back. Thank You.. :ping: P.S. In case you cant tell I am VERY simple minded. LOL :lol:

[Sirten Deth]

:D I hope everyone realizes that I did not really expect an answer that fast. It can atleast wait till I get back from coffee.. LOL :rotfl: LOL.

[Mush Martin]

Ok Ok Ok ........ Due to an overwhelming amount of pm's and my ineptitiude
with simple things like utilizing the BCC feature in my gmail.
im going to change formats a bit.

Im going to send out an email to those on the list once I am sorted out
at a bit on which way to go with it either a thread or I will just do the whole
thing as a compressed dl.

running dialogue has some advantages non running dialogue has some
advantages. decisions decisions....................

[msb80sc]

I think I found a fix for the aft twin 40mm causing a CTD when fired. I changed the highlighted value to 31, matching the foreward AA gun type.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/msb80sc/Conning_x_0x.jpg

[CapnHeck]

Whatever happened to this mod? A very busy, bustling thread and then. . . . flooey. :06:

[Sirten Deth]

Whatever happened to this mod? A very busy, bustling thread and then. . . . flooey. :06:



HERE...HERE or is it HEAR...HEAR, HEAR...HERE ???

I got layed-off in Dec., so I'm baack. Again


P.S. Thanks for the other come-back, Mr. M

George

[Mush Martin]

In simplest terms my sub hasnt been in the water in about eight or
nine months now.

I have Been flying P-38's instead this year.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Newpaintbat2.jpg
(aircraft and rocket skins by D.T.)

that said I showed up back here at Subsim last week so
ya never know.
M

[ReallyDedPoet]

In simplest terms my sub hasnt been in the water in about eight or
nine months now.

I have Been flying P-38's instead this year.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Newpaintbat2.jpg


that said I showed up back here at Subsim last week so
ya never know.
M

Now that's a nice skin :yep:

By the way, were glad your back :up:

[Mush Martin]

Me too... I edited in the skin credits after yer post.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Me too... I edited in the skin credits after yer post.

D.T. eh', :yeah:

[Mush Martin]

TBH I may take my boat out for a few cruises but I am thinking
I will likely get back into it when Battlestations Pacific comes
out.

http://www.battlestations.net/en-US/front

[ReallyDedPoet]

TBH I may take my boat out for a few cruises but I am thinking
I will likely get back into it when Battlestations Pacific comes
out.

http://www.battlestations.net/en-US/front

Yeah, it looks good. I bought it's predecessor not long ago, it was cheap and is not that bad a game.

Not to get way off topic in this thread, but have you played OM for the ATO side of SH4, lurker did a nice job :yep: Still playing the PTO some as well I am trying to get back into SUB Command. Have been reading up on and watching some nice vids from the pre-nuclear and early nuclear era :yep:

[Mush Martin]

Nope havent seen the water in a while and it was only last week
that a dvd copy of gold showed up locally that I could find.
M

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nope havent seen the water in a while and it was only last week
that a dvd copy of gold showed up locally that I could find.
M

Picked mine up at EB about a month ago. I also have the one from Direct2Drive, but wanted the Gold Edition as well :doh:

[Ka_Jose]

Hi guys, I was so inspired by some of your works (specially Mr. Martin's) that I spent the whole day reading tutorials and basically tinkering around with files using trial and error method. I finally got a third deck gun to work. All guns are mounted independently, so you could use different guns for each slot.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/Ka_Jose/sub2.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/Ka_Jose/sub.jpg

[Mush Martin]

Nice ride :up:

[CapnHeck]

Now THAT is U-cruiser, American-style! Are you going to upload that mighty battle truck? Because I, for one, REALLY want to play it, since Mush has his head in the clouds :up: and has long forgotten about us uberboat lovers :damn:

[Mush Martin]

Now thats a little harsh I tell all the other pilot types im a subsimmer
on sabatical.:|\\

[The Fishlord]

Ask Xantrokles if he's done with the Type XIB:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=137574

Lightly armored and heavily armed version of the Type IXD2, if you want a German 1337boat.

[Sirten Deth]

In simplest terms my sub hasnt been in the water in about eight or
nine months now.

I have Been flying P-38's instead this year.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Newpaintbat2.jpg
(aircraft and rocket skins by D.T.)

that said I showed up back here at Subsim last week so
ya never know.
M






I LIKE your kite M.M. I like p 38s, F4Us, & P47s. The P47 (Jug) has always been one of my favs, my nickname has been Jughead since I was about 2yrs old. I even have family members that dont know my name is George. :salute: :rotfl:

[NEON DEON]

In simplest terms my sub hasnt been in the water in about eight or
nine months now.

I have Been flying P-38's instead this year.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Newpaintbat2.jpg
(aircraft and rocket skins by D.T.)

that said I showed up back here at Subsim last week so
ya never know.
M

Ummmm. Where is the periscope?:D