Snow In Gwx

[L_DOG]

Is it possible to have it snow sometimes instead of all the Rain ??
just curious

[LukeFF]

Make a wrong turn somewhere?

[con20or]

:rotfl:

[rik007]

Snow would be a good idea but I'm affraid rain is hard coded.

[danlisa]

It's not hardcoded ;) but it's all or nothing.

Either Rain or Snow, you can't have both.

[The Bad Wolf]

If it's not hard coded, could you use SH3 Commander "random" for the winter months.

[wildchild]

If it's not hard coded, could you use SH3 Commander "random" for the winter months.

mmmmm that sounds a good one :hmm:

[rik007]

If it's not hard coded, could you use SH3 Commander "random" for the winter months.

Are you sure? I just check SH3 Commander and didnot see a "random" option. So how can it be activated?

[rik007]

It's not hardcoded ;) but it's all or nothing.

Either Rain or Snow, you can't have both.

Danlisa: how can it be actived then?

[The Bad Wolf]

Look in SH3Commander Folder you'll see a folder called Random. Many people use it to automatically put music into the game on correct dates.

[HEMISENT]

In SH3 Commander there are Random folders allowing for randomised files to be issued. There are also Date folders which enable certain files to be issued per date. Example dated pinup pictures by month, dated messages etc.

Theoretically if there is a file that allows snow then that can be set to be issued from a certain date onward. The "rain" file would be issued again in late winter/early spring lasting until the snow file kicked in.

[The Bad Wolf]

But if you use the random option as well, you would not know if you'll get rain or snow during your winter patrol. If it snows then it will snow all that patrol instead of rain and vise-versa.

[L_DOG]

i remember Star Trek when it first came out they had communicators and now we do..
they had Triquarters now we do.
the had wide screen TV now we do..
ANY THING IS POSSIBLE

[JScones]

In SH3 Commander there are Random folders allowing for randomised files to be issued. There are also Date folders which enable certain files to be issued per date. Example dated pinup pictures by month, dated messages etc.

Theoretically if there is a file that allows snow then that can be set to be issued from a certain date onward. The "rain" file would be issued again in late winter/early spring lasting until the snow file kicked in.
:up:

I would use a combination of a few things...

Firstly, I would only want snow if I'm "up north", say in 11 Flot careers, certainly not in the Med or Indian. Secondly, I'd only want snow during the winter months, albeit variable each season.

With this in mind, as SH3Cmdr has a limitation on combining flotilla data with date-based data, I'd create a JSGME package which I'd install into SH3Cmdr when I played in 11 Flot campaigns or when I was posted up that way in 1944 (in other words, I'd install a copy of JSGME into my SH3Cmdr folder and enable a package that alternated rain/snow files based on dates throughout the war - yeah, it means duplicate copies of the same files, but it's a simple solution).

I'd then disable when leaving 11 Flot to return to rain all year round.

FWIW I wouldn't use the Random folders for this task simply because of what "The Bad Wolf" stated - I'd find that too annoying.

[The Bad Wolf]

But weather is unpredictable even in winter, which surely means you have to have a random factor somehow. In England it doesn't snow every year.

[JScones]

That's correct, but one has to compromise every now and then in order to best "fit in" with the constructs of a computer game. ;)

I mean, if I had rain for all of patrol 1, then snow for all of patrol 2, then rain for all of patrol 3, then etc etc, it would distract me as I don't think "static" weather behaviour should be based on a U-boat captain's patrol schedule. I reckon within three patrols the files would be removed (even though Winter would be well over by then).

But if it suits you, then yeah, don't use the Date folder but use the Random folders. That's what SH3Cmdr is about - individual tailoring and flexibility. :up:

[The Bad Wolf]

I agree on the limitations and personal flavours. But with randomness you could get a winter with all or no snow. If that could be connected to efficiency i.e Gunfire rate in snow for example, it would add a new dimension to the game.

[JScones]

Absolutely! There's certainly much more that should be considered in addition to just changing a rain "image" to a snow "image". Presumably visibility impacts, crew efficiencies and so much more could be adjusted for the snow image. Add to that U-boats with ice and other "wintery" visual effects and you almost have an "SH3Cmdr Winter Add-on" pack.

Would just need to make sure that tweaking to suit snow doesn't break clear weather behaviour, which should be the same regardless of whether rain or snow files are installed.

[The Bad Wolf]

Thankyou for that conversation. A lot of interesting ideas came out of it. Lets hope someone takes on the winter mod. I can't because I'm committed at the moment with the a new GUI (hopefully).

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I hope we'll see some result of this in the near future:yep: . It would be pretty cool to see some snow during the winter months up north. But would it be possible to randomize the weather during these mounths, such as snow when leaving port and a few weeks later, the weather clears or turns to rain and fog, you know typical winter weather.

[The Bad Wolf]

You can only have rain or snow installed at one time, not both together. Because it is inadvisable to change files mid patrol this would mean instead of rain you would get snow when selected by SH3commander for all that patrol.

Because of the limitations you could only randomise for each winter patrol. As JScones pointed out, using the SH3Commander Random file would be a waste. Much better to randomise using a similiar idea that Merchant Variety Pack by iambecomelife does, in which an external program selects at random and then is installed into SH3Commander or you could use historical data.

[irish1958]

A winter JSGME pack for SH3CMDR would be awesome.:rock::rock:I wish I had the computer skills to do it.

[rik007]

A winter JSGME pack for SH3CMDR would be awesome.:rock::rock:I wish I had the computer skills to do it.

That mod was on the wishlist in earlier threads but it never materialized.

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Well there is a seonal option for waves in SH3 Commander. This could be impllamented for precipt. And I have noticed that diffrent areas have diffrent seabeds. I dont know how the seabed areas are chosen but maby the zones and seasons could be combined to create accurate snow fall. But this may be hardcoded. :-?

[bunkerratt]

so if we use the same reasoning...it could be possible to have winter skins on u-boots and surface vessels which would mean a compleate new set of skins ...?

[The Bad Wolf]

If there was enough interested modders it could turn into a huge mod. Not only would you have winter skins for vessels but also land scenery would have to match conditions. Then there is the resulting effects in efficiencies and maybe equipment icing up. It was a huge problem for allied convoys going to Russia, icing could capsize a ship.

[WilhelmSchulz.]

so if we use the same reasoning...it could be possible to have winter skins on u-boots and surface vessels which would mean a compleate new set of skins ...?

No because the units are not fixed. They move throught the world. But who knows, for modders nothing is impossible.

[The Bad Wolf]

Yes but it a case of Einsteins Relativity it only concerns your position and time.

[The Bad Wolf]

One problem would be if you had a long distance patrol from a winter area to a warmer zone.

[Wave Skipper]

When I was trying to build a new German base in New Swabia (Antarctica) I wanted snow and wished I could get my crew out of those summer uniforms when the waters were calm - and I longed for some data change that would have allowed caked ice all over my conning tower and deck gun like those seen in real U-boat pictures in cold regions.

Its too bad the fatigue was not keyed to seasonal weather like winter as opposed to summer and to latitudes. In calm weather a crew is still going to wear out faster near the north or south poles or in the dead of winter faster than they would in the summer. Really I want my summer south Atlantic crew up on the deck with their shirts off - or like one picture I saw recently - three crew men on the stern of a U-boat that is submerged with water 1 foot over the deck, while they bath in the sea water naked. (I can hear it now: "that's not by the book and that's not safe!" Yeah, like U-boating was safe anyway - tell it to the REAL crew who made the photo).

[bunkerratt]

it would be alot of work..but it would be awsome ...:hmm:

[panzer 49th]

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