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Ducimus
12-27-07, 06:24 PM
I've played alot of MMO's and have seen alot of online communties, but i think WoW's takes the cake.

These are my observations from the last few months, without exxaggeration.

- Everyone's an expert.
- Everyone has an opinion that is authoritve, It is the one one true light and the way.
- Everyone who doesn't share that opinion is a "Noob".
- WoW for the majority, isnt a diversion, it is a serious issue that must be discussed and expanded upon at length.


Realism arguments in SH3 or Sh4, can't hold a candle to this crowd of people.

Dowly
12-28-07, 12:26 PM
Hah, wouldnt expect less from that bunch! :rotfl:

darius359au
12-28-07, 04:43 PM
I gave up playing WOW for those very reasons , most of the people i met really needed to get out more ;):D

If you really want to see how bad most wow players are , just tell them how crap wow is and how "Insert game name of choice here" is better and watch them go up in flames:lol:

Ducimus
12-28-07, 05:32 PM
Proof that they take themselves way too seriously:
http://www.figureprints.com/

TheBrauerHour
12-28-07, 05:45 PM
Oh hell...

That is one game I never played and never plan to.

darius359au
12-28-07, 10:10 PM
Proof that they take themselves way too seriously:
http://www.figureprints.com/

Actually , thats a pretty cool idea if they could do it for other games - Ive got a Hobbit Burglar and a Hobbit Guardian in Lord Of The Rings Online that I wouldn't mind having statues of :D

kiwi_2005
12-29-07, 12:45 AM
I play WoW im on Tichcondrius US server, an ORC Hunter lvl 61. Guild i use to belong to was 'Horde Elite' but i left cause they were to elite for my liking I play for fun not to see who has the best gear or most honor I found myself getting too serious when i was with them it was like i got to get this gear today cannot go to bed until i have enough gold or find it in a drop before i do. Became abit crazy at times so i left Horde Elite guild and now just play wow how i want to. No pressure.

But Why is WoW so successful (9 million players and counting) when it has average graphics and sometimes tedious quests - go get 50 sabertooth skins and bring back to the wiseone etc., Its because its blardy addictive! :rotfl:Seriously once you get past the noob low levels if you leave the game before say level 20 then your okay your still have a life otherwise past that and Wow has got you and wont let you go.

Just brought Burning Crusade expansion which is a huge improvement over WoW, Im making 100 to 150gold per day and thats just in drops and quests, if i do it right within 50 days or so i should beabe to buy the Flying Mount which costs 5000g. Then i'll be flying all over the outlands :rock::lol: :roll:

Blizzard Entertainment beats all game developers out there! They know the human Psyche well:yep:

NefariousKoel
12-29-07, 01:36 AM
I've played the vast majority of MMOs out since UO in 1997. I've never really played a certain one for more than a few months at a stretch before it gets old. For the last few years, the fantasy settings have really got on my nerves and I've moved around quite a bit.

After playing the PotBS open beta, I think I've found a new life sink. :smug:

Rotary Crewman
12-29-07, 02:39 AM
After playing Guild Wars for some time (Now pretty fed up of the quests and don't bother playing anymore) I decided to give some other MMORPGs a go.

I only got to WoW and realised I don't want to have to pay for something I can just do in Guild Wars. Yes the game looks nice, it plays nice (Simple controls) and it has a MASSIVE community with literally hours and hours of gameplay available.

But i'm afraid WoW just didn't grab me. The idea of paying a monthly subscription doesn't grab me. I'm quite a fickle gamer that will shift into what I call 'Gaming Cycles'. I genenrally got for FPS, Flight Sims, Subsims/Naval, Strategy (WW2 and Age type games), RPGs and MMORPGs. These all last around 3-4 months and then I move onto another. With WoW being pay monthly it would be annoying to have paid and not be in my MMORPG cycle (Or be in Iraq). Wasted money!

I might have to try it again in the future when my game genre cycle comes round to RPGs again. At the minute i'm stuck on subsims and Close Combat Cross of Iron.

kiwi_2005
12-29-07, 05:07 AM
After playing Guild Wars for some time (Now pretty fed up of the quests and don't bother playing anymore) I decided to give some other MMORPGs a go.

I only got to WoW and realised I don't want to have to pay for something I can just do in Guild Wars. Yes the game looks nice, it plays nice (Simple controls) and it has a MASSIVE community with literally hours and hours of gameplay available.

But i'm afraid WoW just didn't grab me. The idea of paying a monthly subscription doesn't grab me. I'm quite a fickle gamer that will shift into what I call 'Gaming Cycles'.
Theres a huge difference with GW's and WoW. I played GW for 2yrs or more and thought i was pretty good in that game, well i was had completed the campaign 4 times got to the end of the campiagn as you would know these games never run out of quests. All my characters were at peak levels i had the best gear you could get back then - this was before the expansions came out. And i owed in PVP. I was a master at it in my own mind probably:) So i thought i did try out this WoW game it should be no problem for me learning the ropes and getting up in the ranks, boy how wrong was I, i see myself still a noob in WoW, Im okay questing and the odd ganking (killing other players) but im no where in top form, i have greens and blues as my gear which is considered still pretty noobish.

Best part of WoW is ganking others. Horde v Alliance players you must play the game on PVP servers not those wimpy Normal or PVE but roll a character on PVP and then your see how good this game is. Nothing better than running in an area like Stranglethorn Vale questing when unknown to you theres an Alliance Rogue in Stealth mode creeping up on you then stabbing you in the back! - Notice WoW has the jump option compare to GW, Im sure they put this in cause thats the first reaction you do when getting hit by a player you jump like crazy in a wide circle in my case being hunter with a sniper rifle i jump in circles shooting at him while my pet saber cat is having him for dinner - I dont always come out the winner especially those Hated Gnome players with that ability they stun you only to then watch this little guy about 2feet in length owns you. Anyways I got alot of respect for Rogue players, its a good character to master. Sneeky bast**ds. But there is so much to do in WoW, the good gear the instances/raids the professions and you can also be bad and hated :) Now and then i'll head to an Alliance area and gank the noobs happily questing away - I just love to ruin their day:yep:

The $40 for two months gameplay is not alot when you think about it, I just head down to the computer shop and buy the gamecards. GW is free cause it is so limited compared to wow that its not worth charging for, I mean you cannot get ganked in GW when you do the campaign no one can harm you only time you want to challenge other players is you have to enter a PVP match. Pretty basic but kids will probably loved that way.

Rotary Crewman
12-29-07, 05:36 AM
Ganked? :hmm:

nikimcbee
12-29-07, 05:37 AM
I've played alot of MMO's and have seen alot of online communties, but i think WoW's takes the cake.

These are my observations from the last few months, without exxaggeration.

- Everyone's an expert.
- Everyone has an opinion that is authoritve, It is the one one true light and the way.
- Everyone who doesn't share that opinion is a "Noob".
- WoW for the majority, isnt a diversion, it is a serious issue that must be discussed and expanded upon at length.


Realism arguments in SH3 or Sh4, can't hold a candle to this crowd of people.

You are right on the money!:rotfl: The funniest thing, is listening to grown adults (>35 years old) talk about this game like it is real life! ...or boast of their accomplishments. "My gnome found a magic blah-blah-blah." The south park WoW is a riot.

darius359au
12-29-07, 06:08 AM
Ganked? :hmm:

Ganked ,short for Gang Killed - means a buch of players attack and kill a single player for what they call fun:down: , usually with characters called "noobkiller" or "Pwnerofnoobs"

kiwi_2005
12-29-07, 07:30 AM
Ganked? :hmm:
Ganked ,short for Gang Killed - means a buch of players attack and kill a single player for what they call fun:down: , usually with characters called "noobkiller" or "Pwnerofnoobs"

Yep. But thats why Wow also have the Normal & PVE servers for those players that dont like to be ganked when playing but instead wave to the enemy maybe even do some quests with them and to top it off blow a kiss when its over. Where PVP servers its all about You and your side in my case the Horde. I head out there and gank as many alliance players as i can with no hint of mercy whatsoever! :lol: I mean i wont even have a character on the Alliance side cause i hate the Alliance. When i was a low level i got ganked so many times by the Alliance that in the end i vowed to avenge my deaths when im a higher lvl. I didn't mind been ganked by players that were a few lvls higher than me but when a lvl 70 would gank me i would think why! Hes not going to get any honor for it and im no match for him - damn when im 50 or higher im never going to gank players lower than 5 lvls than me. But here i am 61 and im ganking players that are in their 30's in Strangelthorn Vale and i love it! :p Its alot of fun also i help out low lvl Horde players that are there trying to do quests without the hassle of getting ganked, usually they will say in chat "Someone come help me! Ally lvl 50 ganking in area. So of we go to hunt him down. Im ganking left right and centre, then a ally lvl 70 will turn up and gank me:shifty: :oops:

For the Horde! :rock:

:roll:

Dowly
12-29-07, 08:28 AM
Gah, RuneScape kicks your WoW & GW butts! :rock:

Rotary Crewman
12-30-07, 08:05 AM
Ganked? :hmm:
Ganked ,short for Gang Killed - means a buch of players attack and kill a single player for what they call fun:down: , usually with characters called "noobkiller" or "Pwnerofnoobs"

Sounds a bit rubbish to me. Maybe they should setup a WoW police force and go get them

kiwi_2005
12-30-07, 08:12 AM
Its no different than if you were in GW & go up against others in a PVP match. Except in WoW its free to roam and kill the enemy at random. With no mercy whatsoever:lol:

For the Horde!:rock:

I had this funny incident tonight I came across a player that just didn't know when he was beat he chase me all the way back to base only for him to get ganked a 3rd time:rotfl:

In outlands while i and my pet were questing along comes this gnome on his machanical mount, jumps off and starts attacking my pet - my cat was attacking another character so he must of thought getting him out of the way is the best option then take care of me. I laid a freezing trap moved back and started firing away cat also hassling him, he then comes running for me walks right into the trap. I then call my pet and get ready no gnome is going to gank me today - I use itimidation on cat send him off fire a Aim shot while cat is hassling him, then Concussion shot, and a few others in no right order in fact i just went ballistic with the keyboard and hit all the numbers bind to my shots hoping sooner or later hes going to go down. The gnome is lvl64 im 61. Anyways he goes down. I quickly mount and head back to base as i got this feeling this battle aint over he'll want to avenge his death and the Alliance flight path is very close. So im riding back to Thrallmar looking behind me to see if hes following, nope. Then just before i get to base i dismount & seconds later i see him again, he dismounts and starts attacking me, my cat hassles him, i lay another freezing trap and move back surely he aint going to fall for the same trick again yet he walks right into it. LOL. I then run to base which is just a few yards. He wont try it when im in base. Wrong he runs in trying to get me i send cat to attack and npcs attack him. He dies again. 5 min later im in base and i get stunned the dudes back in stealth form this time he nearly gets me but i fire a flare which he shows up and the npc close by kill him


Hard to explain in words but i was laughing at his downfall. Usually you get ganked you accept it and move on. This guy was in a rage:rotfl:

Rotary Crewman
12-30-07, 09:35 AM
Apart from gold and glory do you get anything else for killing random people? Do you find you have to go round in a group to stay safe?

kiwi_2005
12-30-07, 05:45 PM
Apart from gold and glory do you get anything else for killing random people? Do you find you have to go round in a group to stay safe?
You dont get any gold for killing others not that i know off unless when your 70 and doing raids you do? Not quite sure. You get Honor points if they are round the same lvl as you or higher does help to be with a group or your guild but alot of the time the ganking is one on one or two on one. Raids on camps is a group thing. A place called Nessyway which is a tiny camp in Stranglethorn vale both sides can do the quests given there. So alot of the time your got the Horde and Alliance in this camp getting quests usually alot of ganking goes on here and its groups v groups it can't be helped its like two waring gangs turning up at the same place they dont want to fight then someone from one side wont beable to control himself and attack the other side and thats it let the ganking begin everyones going crazy ganking each other.

I mean We are the Horde we are the Master race the rest are subhumans they must be eliminated! :rotfl::rotfl:

:roll:

Rotary Crewman
12-31-07, 05:59 AM
Getting the Trial so I can come after you Kiwi and teach you a thing or two!

WoW Police at your service!

kiwi_2005
12-31-07, 07:44 AM
:up:

If you ever need help and your on Tichcondrius server Horde side then let me know.

Rotary Crewman
01-03-08, 05:59 AM
Well, given WoW another go. Decided to be a Night Elf Hunter but later changed to a Dwarf Hunter (Not sure why, just did :p) and I have to say I am enjoying it. Still in two minds though if I actually want to go ahead and not only buy it but also pay monthly to play the game.

I'm enjoying running round and doing the various quests but also having the profession of a blacksmith and mining everything I can find to create armour I can flog for plenty of cash ;)

Even though I am enjoying it I'm finding it a little repetitive. The constant fighting, getting into trouble with my health running low, running away, regenerating, fighting again...etc etc

I understand that raids would make it much more exciting but I'm a bit of a loner when it comes to RPG games (Go figure why I play MMORPGs :doh:).

Will play until the end of my 10 days then I will give a final verdict. At the minute though, even though I would like to pay for it, I think I would leave it.

kiwi_2005
01-03-08, 07:57 AM
Well, given WoW another go. Decided to be a Night Elf Hunter but later changed to a Dwarf Hunter (Not sure why, just did :p) and I have to say I am enjoying it. Still in two minds though if I actually want to go ahead and not only buy it but also pay monthly to play the game.

I'm enjoying running round and doing the various quests but also having the profession of a blacksmith and mining everything I can find to create armour I can flog for plenty of cash ;)

Even though I am enjoying it I'm finding it a little repetitive. The constant fighting, getting into trouble with my health running low, running away, regenerating, fighting again...etc etc

I understand that raids would make it much more exciting but I'm a bit of a loner when it comes to RPG games (Go figure why I play MMORPGs :doh:).

Will play until the end of my 10 days then I will give a final verdict. At the minute though, even though I would like to pay for it, I think I would leave it.

Yeah the early stages can put you off the game, once you get to 20 and higher (30 more like it) the game gets interesting enough to stay everything starts to fall into place and your see why so many ppl play it. Are you on a PVP or normal servers. Also if you stay with the game i recommend you get the expansion Burning Crusade. You get to play the Bloodelf or Dranei but once any character hits lvl58 your get to go to the Outlands in BC. There your make a lot of gold. :yep:

Anyways have fun

Rotary Crewman
01-03-08, 02:55 PM
I have a night elf on the normal servers but have started a Dwarf Hunter on an RP server. Can't see anything different to a Normal server though.

Might even start one up on a PVP server and get wiped out pretty quick :o

NefariousKoel
01-03-08, 07:39 PM
RC-

I'd recommend finding an easy-going guild and joining them. Even if you like to solo a lot, they're always a big help and often a good source of amusement while you're playing. That goes for any MMO, really.

kiwi_2005
01-03-08, 07:43 PM
I have a night elf on the normal servers but have started a Dwarf Hunter on an RP server. Can't see anything different to a Normal server though.

Might even start one up on a PVP server and get wiped out pretty quick :o

Very unlikely your get ganked at low level, usually if you come across a horde he/she will ignore you cause your lvl wont give them any honor. Although you might come across one bastard that will gank you cause they hate Alliance so much :rotfl:But i rarely got ganked when 1 to 30 once i was in my 30's though and headed to Stranglethorn Vale for quests that when the killing started.

:up:

Rotary Crewman
01-04-08, 04:10 AM
Well seeing as the game is very cheap in ASDA/Walmart at the minute then I may purchase it and give it a month if I can reach lvl 20 on my trial.

Had a guild in Guild Wars but they never got into the Guild Battles and I found it quite boring just doing quests.

But to be fair to WoW I am enjoying mining away and making armour! Profession system is excellent.

kiwi_2005
01-04-08, 07:07 AM
Well seeing as the game is very cheap in ASDA/Walmart at the minute then I may purchase it and give it a month if I can reach lvl 20 on my trial.

Had a guild in Guild Wars but they never got into the Guild Battles and I found it quite boring just doing quests.

But to be fair to WoW I am enjoying mining away and making armour! Profession system is excellent.
:up: Engineering is another great profession you can make weapons -guns, dynomite, scopes, goggles to many to mention and later on your own Mount. Engineers is a profession of its own, what you make only u can use. Although you can sell some but most are for engineers only.

You can create some weird looking gadgets some dangerous to use eg some will at times explode without any warning when using them. lol

TheSatyr
01-04-08, 03:50 PM
I have a level 70 Night Elf Hunter and a few that are still in their 20s including a Dwarf Warrior Engineer who has less IQ than a doorknob and has enough explosives to blow up Stormwind...not a good combination.:rotfl:

I play over on Elune,but I'm going to be closing both my WoW and Star Wars Galaxies accounts so I can free up the cash to subscribe to POTBS and Age Of Conan.(When it gets released that is.). I do plan on returning to WoW when their next expansion comes out though.

But what I'm really looking forward to is Bioware's upcoming MMO. It was supposedly the deciding factor on EA buying Bioware...so it must be a killer game even in the stage it's in now. I still think it's going to be a MMORPG based on the KOTOR universe,but we'll see in 2009.

AFRIKAKORPS
01-04-08, 06:54 PM
WoW never pulled me in, im not a fan of the whole swords and magic sort of thing and I think its overrated. Now EVE on the other hand, amazing game, especially with the new update, its easily the best looking MMO around.

kiwi_2005
01-04-08, 09:25 PM
I have a level 70 Night Elf Hunter and a few that are still in their 20s including a Dwarf Warrior Engineer who has less IQ than a doorknob and has enough explosives to blow up Stormwind...not a good combination.:rotfl:

I play over on Elune,but I'm going to be closing both my WoW and Star Wars Galaxies accounts so I can free up the cash to subscribe to POTBS and Age Of Conan.(When it gets released that is.). I do plan on returning to WoW when their next expansion comes out though.

But what I'm really looking forward to is Bioware's upcoming MMO. It was supposedly the deciding factor on EA buying Bioware...so it must be a killer game even in the stage it's in now. I still think it's going to be a MMORPG based on the KOTOR universe,but we'll see in 2009.

Yeah the Age of Conan might make me leave WoW temperary. Ive been keeping one eye on AoC looks very promising.

Rotary Crewman
01-05-08, 07:58 AM
Well, I started a new character. A Gnome Warlock with the idea of being the best engineer in all of Azeroth!

Engineering sounds damn fun and I need to give it a go!

kiwi_2005
01-07-08, 12:41 PM
STV Gankster! :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpigcYNyUg4&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaIRlSpHPfk&feature=related

Rotary Crewman
01-07-08, 05:22 PM
Had to search for STV to know what that meant...

WoW ordered from Asda...now I just have to wait to see if it gets me hooked.

kiwi_2005
01-08-08, 01:48 AM
WoW ordered from Asda...now I just have to wait to see if it gets me hooked.

Well it was nice knowing you man, with wow on your PC i wont expect you back for months! :lol:

Joking.

Sigurd
01-10-08, 10:04 AM
Now EVE on the other hand, amazing game, especially with the new update, its easily the best looking MMO around.
Agreed. I havent gotten the chance to play since May, but its the only game I would consider paying a monthly fee for. The community is great, and easily 100x better then WoW's.

GlobalExplorer
01-12-08, 03:01 PM
Very interesting thread for an outsider like me.

Personally, I never liked the idea of playing a MMORPG. I play games because I want some escapism, because I want to be something I cannot be in real life. And not compete with a lot of other suckers about everything I want, and learn to live with them, like in real life.

The only thing that would fascinate me (and some close friends) is the idea to play a RPG cooperatively with a party 2-4 friends. Unfortunately there are no such games.

kiwi_2005
01-13-08, 12:34 AM
The only thing that would fascinate me (and some close friends) is the idea to play a RPG cooperatively with a party 2-4 friends. Unfortunately there are no such games.

Neverwinternights 1 & 2 allows that. In Wow you can join groups or a guild and do the quests together - which helps each other to level up quickly than going alone.

NefariousKoel
01-13-08, 02:34 AM
The only thing that would fascinate me (and some close friends) is the idea to play a RPG cooperatively with a party 2-4 friends. Unfortunately there are no such games.
Actually, that's a big draw for a lot of MMOs. Partying up and doing instances in WoW and similar such things in other MMOs are high on the fun factor. Not to mention I've met some fun people - it's not all assmonkeys playing these types of games. :know:

kiwi_2005
01-14-08, 12:22 AM
The only thing that would fascinate me (and some close friends) is the idea to play a RPG cooperatively with a party 2-4 friends. Unfortunately there are no such games.
Actually, that's a big draw for a lot of MMOs. Partying up and doing instances in WoW and similar such things in other MMOs are high on the fun factor. Not to mention I've met some fun people - it's not all assmonkeys playing these types of games. :know:

Exactly. Im sratching my head at what GlobalExplorer means when he mentions no such co-operative rpg's exists? There's many RPG's today with the co-op options. Wow & most mmos are big on co-op play. Thats what keeps the wheels rolling and thats why they are huge compared to single player games. I play for the fun factor, the socialising, and the hard work you have to put into it to earn your gear. Another thing i notice everyday when playing wow is players have manners - You get lost, ask in chat and many are there to help, theres always a Thankyou, You have a good day or Glad i could help replies - politness is big in wow. I'm yet to come across someone thats nasty to me maybe im just playing on the right servers?
Far as what ive seen in the game we're all well mannered adults enjoying ourselves in a make believe world....Then theres the ganking that goes on to let out the tension:lol:

NeonSamurai
01-14-08, 10:11 AM
I think what he meens is that most mmo's are not realy designed with small groups of 2-4 players in mind. Wow is realy designed for 6-8 person groups for the smaller instances and then you have the huge raid groups.

Dowly
01-14-08, 02:49 PM
But what I'm really looking forward to is Bioware's upcoming MMO. It was supposedly the deciding factor on EA buying Bioware...so it must be a killer game even in the stage it's in now. I still think it's going to be a MMORPG based on the KOTOR universe,but we'll see in 2009.

Correction: It was supposed to be a killer game, but now that EA is around, it will most propably suck. EA tends to have that kind of effect to games near it. ;)

Ducimus
01-14-08, 08:02 PM
Anything EA buys, will not be around for very much longer.

AFRIKAKORPS
01-14-08, 10:23 PM
EA buys out any game company who makes quality products, then they screw with it and turn it into crap. Sadly I'm sure Bioware's game will turn into something like that in the end.

robbo180265
01-22-08, 08:39 PM
Makes me laugh to hear you all going on about how we Wow players take the game too seriously - have you read the SHIII or IV forums recently ? lol

I have a lvl 62 Rogue (and - yes they do kick ass,except against Hunters) Part of the reason you don't see me as much in these forums anymore, is because I'm well and truly hooked. The other reason was the petty arguments.

Some of the comments about other players and the way they act is true,but my mates 7 year old plays. This is what a lot of people don't realise, during the day, a lot of kids play which is why I mainly play at night.

I've met a lot of friendly, helpful people from all over Europe and hardly met any idiots. I even run a guild now.

If you're ever on the Bronze Dragonflight server - look me up, I'm a rogue called Balvennie;)

GlobalExplorer
01-22-08, 10:12 PM
The only thing that would fascinate me (and some close friends) is the idea to play a RPG cooperatively with a party 2-4 friends. Unfortunately there are no such games.
Actually, that's a big draw for a lot of MMOs. Partying up and doing instances in WoW and similar such things in other MMOs are high on the fun factor. Not to mention I've met some fun people - it's not all assmonkeys playing these types of games. :know:

Exactly. Im sratching my head at what GlobalExplorer means when he mentions no such co-operative rpg's exists? There's many RPG's today with the co-op options. Wow & most mmos are big on co-op play.

MMOs suck imo. I'm only interested in singleplayer games, but I would like to have a LAN option to play these with one or two friends.

Ducimus
01-22-08, 11:32 PM
MMOs suck imo

Im inclined to agree with you, and ive played MANY of them. The MMO genre promised to be the "next big thing" in gaming, but i think its lost its direction, and gotten out of hand. These days, MMO isnt about the gameplay, so much as getting the end user addcited enough so they keep shelling out the 15 clams. The first MMO's were truly innovative, but now, they all seem to follow the same standard mold - designers going with whats been proven to work, rather then trying to come up with a better game. WoW is no different, at its core, its basicaly diablo2, asherons call, and everquest all rolled into one.

That and whats the point of an MMO when everyones concerned about soloing? That is what the majority do, or want these days. To solo. Ok, so why play a multiplayer game then? Seriously, a game like ES4: Oblivion has everything alot of people are looking for, sans chat window to wave their epeen around in.

kiwi_2005
01-23-08, 12:33 AM
MMOs suck imo
Im inclined to agree with you, and ive played MANY of them. The MMO genre promised to be the "next big thing" in gaming, but i think its lost its direction, and gotten out of hand. These days, MMO isnt about the gameplay, so much as getting the end user addcited enough so they keep shelling out the 15 clams. The first MMO's were truly innovative, but now, they all seem to follow the same standard mold - designers going with whats been proven to work, rather then trying to come up with a better game. WoW is no different, at its core, its basicaly diablo2, asherons call, and everquest all rolled into one.

That and whats the point of an MMO when everyones concerned about soloing? That is what the majority do, or want these days. To solo. Ok, so why play a multiplayer game then? Seriously, a game like ES4: Oblivion has everything alot of people are looking for, sans chat window to wave their epeen around in.

Yeah but oblivion is a single player once you get to the end then what - wait for mods ok thats great too, but it misses one good thing which only mmo's can achieve and thats playing with others, group questing, doing instances/raids, 25 of you heading to attack say the alliance camps <-- that there what makes mmos or wow so big. Then once you get to 70 you think thats its thats only the begining you got Epic gear to worry about

I know i sound like a stauch wow supporter but really i just support any game that offers playing alongside other people instead of just going up against the AI all the time. when playing SH2 v Destroyer command multiplayer even tho just one on one i played it for years over a lan, if Ubisoft brought out Destroyer Command 2 for SH4 or 3 i did probably drop WoW... Temperary :lol:

kiwi_2005
01-24-08, 01:58 AM
Although this is going way to far:nope: To most ppl when you log off (any game) your back in the real world so put those fantasy thoughts away till you log on again.

Doesn't work for everyone though...

Chinese Teen Plays World of Warcraft. Fire Mage In Real Life, Seriously Burns Classmate

A 17 year old Beijing boy had a fight with a classmate and lost. He took revenge a few days later by dumping a water bottle full of gasoline onto the classmate and lighting him on fire. The victim ended up with burns on 55% of his body, including third-degree burns on 38% of his body. (Click here to read the Chinese article.)

The perpetrator claimed he had lost himself in World of Warcraft and when he committed the crime he had transformed into a Fire Mage.:roll:

http://bbb.typepad.com/billsdue/2007/12/chinese-teen-pl.html

GlobalExplorer
01-25-08, 02:42 PM
One keeps hearing stories like that, always from Asia (China / Korea).

Imo that proves that repressing emotion isn't a good thing .. if that's what makes the Chinese do these things.

Travis Reed
01-25-08, 04:58 PM
I play over on Elune,but I'm going to be closing both my WoW and Star Wars Galaxies accounts so I can free up the cash to subscribe to POTBS and Age Of Conan.(When it gets released that is.). I do plan on returning to WoW when their next expansion comes out though. Great, now you've got me addicted to PotBS...

But what I'm really looking forward to is Bioware's upcoming MMO. It was supposedly the deciding factor on EA buying Bioware...so it must be a killer game even in the stage it's in now. I still think it's going to be a MMORPG based on the KOTOR universe,but we'll see in 2009. EA has or will screw that over and make it rather bad...prepare to be greatly disappointed...

NeonSamurai
01-25-08, 09:44 PM
I have to admit ive also completely lost interest in MMO's as well, to me they have become just a giant repetitve grind fest/time sink. I honestly find playing them very dull and boring. In fact I pretty much only play single player stuff any more (though i would be interested in small multiplayer rpgs and the like so i could mess around in games like Oblivion with friends).

Unfortunatly it seems to me the general game industry is becoming more and more focused on multiplayer only games, games with a very small amount of single player content and mostly multiplayer, and mmo's

Back to MMO's about the only MMO I would be interested would have to be either a modern day mmo warfare sim, or maybe an rpg in a relativly untouched area (like say a feudal japan mmo, or futuristic space and land mmo). I am utterly sick to death of the standard fantasy MMO's. Preferably one which didnt require you to play 12 hours a day as a second job to get anywhere.

kiwi_2005
01-26-08, 01:48 AM
Last night i reach peak lvl in wow, im now 70 :rock:

Started playing wow July07 5 months of grinding was well worth it. I can truely now relax the motive to play wow daily cause i got to level up is not there. So now what do i do, well while waiting for the Lich King expansion to come out 2009 its now all about getting Epics gear doing arenas 2v2.-5v5 or battegrounds capture flag, take bases etc., with the honor i get i use to buy epics. I just did an Alterac Valley raid with 20 others v Aliance players it was awesome kinda like hold the bases to FPShooters, we won totally kicked the Alliance ass.

But heres the catch i went into Hall of legends last night to look at what i could be fighting for, for example to get my a epic gun its going to cost me 21000 honor and many badges, 60 for this item. Thats just for the gun i still want the armor, and other weapons.

Thats many months of gameplay right there, plus now as a 70 whenever i do a quest theres no XP rewards but a hefty gold reward. That there is great as i need lots of gold.

So yeah wow has grabbed me by the nuts once again and wont let go... But hey i dont mind! :)

Its taking over my life...:shifty::)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Kiwi_Frank/7070707070.jpg

NefariousKoel
01-26-08, 02:07 AM
I've been playin' the hell out of Pirates of the Burning Sea. I've said my goodbyes to fantasy MMOs lately.:rock:

Atom Bomber
01-26-08, 02:38 AM
Anything EA buys, will not be around for very much longer.

NFL football has been around a long while

GlobalExplorer
01-26-08, 06:47 AM
I have to admit ive also completely lost interest in MMO's as well, to me they have become just a giant repetitve grind fest/time sink. I honestly find playing them very dull and boring. In fact I pretty much only play single player stuff any more (though i would be interested in small multiplayer rpgs and the like so i could mess around in games like Oblivion with friends).

Exactly what I meant.

Unfortunatly it seems to me the general game industry is becoming more and more focused on multiplayer only games, games with a very small amount of single player content and mostly multiplayer, and mmo's

The industry has ceased to be a place for the kind of creative minds that brought us the wonderful games of the 80's and 90's. No matter where you look, the creativity and enthusiasm has gone, all that matters is churning out graphically impressive games, that sell and become boring quickly.

Fortunately the field is open for creative people to start their own companies. Nowadays I mostly play games like GalCiv2 , Ageods American Civil War , Battle of Britain 2.

The last big title I bought in a shop and really enjoyed was SHIII, thats almost 3 years ago now.

I also play a lot of classics that I missed when they were new (Jagged Alliance 2, Fallout 1+2, Close Combat).