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Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-11-07, 07:33 PM
here i will list the MP game crashes ;)


mission: Bismark Breakout crashes before loading

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-11-07, 10:47 PM
Mission Bismark Breakout keeps crashing before loading :-?

Kpt. Lehmann
12-11-07, 11:02 PM
here i will list the MP game crashes ;)


mission: Bismark Breakout crashes before loading

Thanks KJM. We'll look into it in the coming days.

bigboywooly
12-11-07, 11:57 PM
Mission Bismark Breakout keeps crashing before loading :-?

Try that http://files.filefront.com/Bismarck+Breakout7z/;9239765;/fileinfo.html
And let me know what happens

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-12-07, 01:18 AM
mission: Movie Moments
airplanes are dead on the ground at mission start, insane heavy lagg, enemy ships and planes somhow get pulled backwards while moving forward as if someone pulls a sting attached to them from time to time :huh:

Kpt. Lehmann
12-12-07, 01:33 AM
mission: Movie Moments
airplanes are dead on the ground at mission start, insane heavy lagg, enemy ships and planes somhow get pulled backwards while moving forward as if someone pulls a sting attached to them from time to time :huh:

What you are describing here, on all counts is lag related and not related to GWX.

It is related to slow internet connections and/or MP host server issues.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-12-07, 02:01 AM
mission: Movie Moments
airplanes are dead on the ground at mission start, insane heavy lagg, enemy ships and planes somhow get pulled backwards while moving forward as if someone pulls a sting attached to them from time to time :huh:
What you are describing here, on all counts is lag related and not related to GWX.

It is related to slow internet connections and/or MP host server issues.

uh, the lagg is coused by the 50 or so units (ships, subs and planes), the more you destroy the better the game runns
the coastal arty helped us with it

@BBW
the game loaded with your file, i used a XXI, sand 2 destroyers, the Hood and the Prince of Whales (correct ?) and then it happened :huh:
i ordered back flank becouse 4 DD's were heading for me, few seconds after i pressed the button i didnt got a CTD but a reboot of my computer :doh:

Kpt. Lehmann
12-12-07, 02:38 AM
JKM, the behavior you describe... specifically "enemy ships and planes somhow get pulled backwards while moving forward as if someone pulls a string attached to them from time to time" is directly related to internet lag. Not GWX.

I've experienced the same behavior in other multiplayer games that were far less advanced, and far more "busy" than SH3/GWX is.

It is a symptom of the vagaries of internet bandwidth allocation and the transmitted data packet. Nothing more, mate.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-12-07, 03:07 AM
JKM, the behavior you describe... specifically "enemy ships and planes somhow get pulled backwards while moving forward as if someone pulls a string attached to them from time to time" is directly related to internet lag. Not GWX.

I've experienced the same behavior in other multiplayer games that were far less advanced, and far more "busy" than SH3/GWX is.

It is a symptom of the vagaries of internet bandwidth allocation and the transmitted data packet. Nothing more, mate.
ok, i was just thinking ;)
we had great fun with it anyway :D

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-12-07, 08:49 PM
mission: Carrabean Convoy (or somthing like that)
Problem: no discription

johnno74
12-12-07, 09:08 PM
the game loaded with your file, i used a XXI, sand 2 destroyers, the Hood and the Prince of Whales (correct ?) and then it happened :huh:
i ordered back flank becouse 4 DD's were heading for me, few seconds after i pressed the button i didnt got a CTD but a reboot of my computer :doh:

If your puta crashed/rebooted, then the problem isn't GWX or even SH3. Its either a bad driver, or bad hardware. Possibly bad memory, or maybe overheating.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-12-07, 10:26 PM
If your puta crashed/rebooted, then the problem isn't GWX or even SH3. Its either a bad driver, or bad hardware. Possibly bad memory, or maybe overheating. probaly the last :p

anyways, Kpt Lehman, may i suggest looking at the behavor (correct ?) of the avenger.. it swirls, drops down, bounces up, crashes in the sea and bounces up again :huh:

aslo i still get pinged even when all DD's are kaput and while im far away from the place they sunk

when you look from northeast to southwest the smoke, flags and aircraft proppellors disapear

Kpt. Lehmann
12-13-07, 12:06 AM
If your puta crashed/rebooted, then the problem isn't GWX or even SH3. Its either a bad driver, or bad hardware. Possibly bad memory, or maybe overheating. probaly the last :p

anyways, Kpt Lehman, may i suggest looking at the behavor (correct ?) of the avenger.. it swirls, drops down, bounces up, crashes in the sea and bounces up again :huh:

aslo i still get pinged even when all DD's are kaput and while im far away from the place they sunk

when you look from northeast to southwest the smoke, flags and aircraft proppellors disapear

These matters were all experienced in multiplayer setting right?

(MP is so quirky... it does our heads in.)

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-13-07, 02:13 AM
If your puta crashed/rebooted, then the problem isn't GWX or even SH3. Its either a bad driver, or bad hardware. Possibly bad memory, or maybe overheating. probaly the last :p

anyways, Kpt Lehman, may i suggest looking at the behavor (correct ?) of the avenger.. it swirls, drops down, bounces up, crashes in the sea and bounces up again :huh:

aslo i still get pinged even when all DD's are kaput and while im far away from the place they sunk

when you look from northeast to southwest the smoke, flags and aircraft proppellors disapear
These matters were all experienced in multiplayer setting right?
thats correct sir, dont have seen a avenger in career yet, although i must say im verry impressed how you made the new bombers... at first it looks like they already are out of bombs... but dont believe that trick :dead:

danlisa
12-13-07, 03:55 AM
......anyways, Kpt Lehman, may i suggest looking at the behavor (correct ?) of the avenger.. it swirls, drops down, bounces up, crashes in the sea and bounces up again :huh:
This is a MP bug but it's very random. I have seen it on other mods but have never seen it in a full campaign. LOL, in MP I have even seen a partially sunk DD start to sink at the stern, jump forward, sink, jump etc...... MP is just plain weird.:doh:

Kpt. Lehmann
12-13-07, 05:10 AM
Another quirk about MP play in SH3 (and also in GWX as a result of SH3) IIRC... the propellors on ships do not rotate.

@KJM, regarding the aircraft bombs... some are wing-mounted and others are stored internally. In a perfect world, we could animate the bomb-bay doors snapping open to reveal the eggs!

Also, if you'd like to observe the Avenger aircraft's flight characteristics in game, just load the regular non-MP mission "U-505." It has Avengers in it... and they fly normally.:up:

Checkmate King 2
12-13-07, 12:11 PM
I just had my 1st crash with GWX2.0.

I had just finished off a medium cargo ship with my deck gun; (1st ship sunk during career). I went to the crew management screen and saw I had one crew member in the forward torpedo room with a red exclaimation mark; I moved him to get rested. Next I clicked on "surface cruise mode" and that was the end of everything. Next, the screen went to my desk top, and after about 10 seconds I received an "error has occurred" window. "Do you want to send a report?"

danlisa
12-13-07, 12:48 PM
Next I clicked on "surface cruise mode" and that was the end of everything. Next, the screen went to my desk top, and after about 10 seconds I received an "error has occurred" window. "Do you want to send a report?"

Yep, that's a stock/original bug. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

We can't fix it but you can avoid it by doing it manually i.e surface & move your WO.

mr chris
12-13-07, 01:13 PM
KJM,

Just a question on your MP crashes.
Are you play online by yourself or with others?
If you are playing with others you should make sure that you ALL have the excate same setup or a CTD is bound to happen at some time in game or in the loading of the game.

As the Kpt and the other GWX devs have stated already MP is the most weridest part of SH3 and is full of little quriks. It is the price we pay for MP being a last minute addition to the game before it was realesed.

Anvart
12-13-07, 01:36 PM
May be all MP players must to have installed GWX 2.0 ...? :hmm:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-13-07, 08:02 PM
the MP's are only L_DOG and me, both of us use GWX 2.0 with the same things ;)

rascal101
12-13-07, 11:00 PM
Hi to all thanks for a great mod, a question, I dont normally bother with single missions preferring to get stuck into a new career.

I did just that today after finally successfully re-installing SH3 and the patches and GWX2.

Ok so I'm off the NW cost of Ireland sunk a small merchant, nice graphics no problems, then I search and search and search and finally get a convoy, inbound, I rush ahead perfect position, night time attack raining but seas not too choppy. I'm in map view looking at sound contact spreading out all round me, just about to go to perescope and.............................Windos has made an unspecified error!!!!!

Has any one else had this, here are a list of mods enable via JSME
GWX - Alternate Loadscreen - Full Circle
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub

Also
TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod ---------------I get the twists but copper or brass is wierd, sort of stiated, not sure if this mod is working properly

Rare Gramophone songs PART II

RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022

U-jagd1.2_GWX_DIY ------------------- Cant see this at all dont think its working

VIIC_41_Play3 - Great skin but I wonder if its compatable?

Hope you can help
Regards
R

rascal101
12-15-07, 12:29 AM
Once again thanks for a great mod but I can now confirm I am having a problem with CTD's

After previous experience I disable a few mods trying to isolate if there was a mod that was causeing the problem. Then started new career, this time off Gibralter I was NE of large convoy, sped ahead and set up perfect attack and then Bam major crash, PC rebooted then als sorts of messages about my active desktop and Microsoft wanting to send messages. Took me a while to get things back in order, once again I have a clean install of SH3 with required patches and GWX2 below I have listed additional mods installed via generic mod enabler.

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - No Medals on Crew
RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod

Could the problem be with the SH4 Effects

Wolfehunter
12-15-07, 02:33 AM
RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022

VIIC_41_Play3 - Great skin but I wonder if its compatable?



Racerboys FX sh4 to sh3 isn't compatible with GWX 2.0
He's working on it. All his mods will have to be reworked to work with GWX 2.0 There only compatible with GWX 1.03

Tomi's models aren't compatible with GWX 2.0. They will be fix soon. GWX 2.0 have changed there U-boat files as well as many others. The only thing that will work will be music and skins unless you see GWX 2.0 mod compatible on it.

I hope that helps.:up: Give the GWX DEV team some time to work the minor bugs and they will rework many older GWX mods. Thats what I hear so be patient.:smug:

rascal101
12-15-07, 03:16 AM
Thank you sir, you are a gentleman, will remove SH4 effects and see if this stops the crash.



RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022

VIIC_41_Play3 - Great skin but I wonder if its compatable?


Racerboys FX sh4 to sh3 isn't compatible with GWX 2.0
He's working on it. All his mods will have to be reworked to work with GWX 2.0 There only compatible with GWX 1.03

Tomi's models aren't compatible with GWX 2.0. They will be fix soon. GWX 2.0 have changed there U-boat files as well as many others. The only thing that will work will be music and skins unless you see GWX 2.0 mod compatible on it.

I hope that helps.:up: Give the GWX DEV team some time to work the minor bugs and they will rework many older GWX mods. Thats what I hear so be patient.:smug:

Kpt. Lehmann
12-15-07, 11:53 AM
... Give the GWX DEV team some time to work the minor bugs and they will rework many older GWX mods. Thats what I hear so be patient.:smug:

Just to clarify, modders that made mods for GWX 1.03 will need to rework their mods to be compatible with GWX 2.0.

If we had to do everyone else's work too, I think our guys would have strokes.

L_DOG
12-15-07, 03:01 PM
MUST have your VIRTUAL MEMORY turned up to the MAXIMUM setting to play MOVIE MOMENTS.

Kpt. Lehmann
12-15-07, 08:31 PM
MUST have your VIRTUAL MEMORY turned up to the MAXIMUM setting to play MOVIE MOMENTS.

That would be system dependant wouldn't it?;)

TheDarkWraith
12-16-07, 12:21 AM
Once again thanks for a great mod but I can now confirm I am having a problem with CTD's

After previous experience I disable a few mods trying to isolate if there was a mod that was causeing the problem. Then started new career, this time off Gibralter I was NE of large convoy, sped ahead and set up perfect attack and then Bam major crash, PC rebooted then als sorts of messages about my active desktop and Microsoft wanting to send messages. Took me a while to get things back in order, once again I have a clean install of SH3 with required patches and GWX2 below I have listed additional mods installed via generic mod enabler.

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - No Medals on Crew
RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod

Could the problem be with the SH4 Effects

As WolfeHunter stated I can bet money that my SH4 effects for SH3 is causing your CTD. In GWX 2.0 they altered the zones.cfg file and thus it 'calls' for some new events which aren't in my particles.dat file. You'll have to disable it until I can make it compatible with GWX 2.0.
The GWX Enhanced damage effects alters the particles.dat file, mine does also. There's no point in having both enabled. Only one will take precedence and that's the last one you enabled via JSGME. That's just for future reference ;)

rascal101
12-16-07, 05:57 AM
Thanks to all for your help, I disabled the SH4 effects and had a good run without crashes, so then I got a little carried away and popped in a coupele more skins to see what would happen, sure enough I got a spanking, CTD and the following message

AppName: sh3.exe AppVer: 1.4.0.1 ModName: sh3sim.act
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 0000196a


Guess I'll have to be a good boy and sit and wait just those dam Wollfhunter skins are so good here's a list of my active mods

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - No Medals on Crew
VIIC_41_Play3
Wolfehunters_IXB_C_MK2
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
Wolfehunters_XXI_U2511
Wolfehunter_VIIB_U83
Wolfehunters_IXC_U516


R

Once again thanks for a great mod but I can now confirm I am having a problem with CTD's

After previous experience I disable a few mods trying to isolate if there was a mod that was causeing the problem. Then started new career, this time off Gibralter I was NE of large convoy, sped ahead and set up perfect attack and then Bam major crash, PC rebooted then als sorts of messages about my active desktop and Microsoft wanting to send messages. Took me a while to get things back in order, once again I have a clean install of SH3 with required patches and GWX2 below I have listed additional mods installed via generic mod enabler.

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - No Medals on Crew
RB_SH4_Effects_for_SH3_2_022
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
TwistyPeriscopeThingyMod

Could the problem be with the SH4 Effects
As WolfeHunter stated I can bet money that my SH4 effects for SH3 is causing your CTD. In GWX 2.0 they altered the zones.cfg file and thus it 'calls' for some new events which aren't in my particles.dat file. You'll have to disable it until I can make it compatible with GWX 2.0.
The GWX Enhanced damage effects alters the particles.dat file, mine does also. There's no point in having both enabled. Only one will take precedence and that's the last one you enabled via JSGME. That's just for future reference ;)

bigboywooly
12-16-07, 07:42 AM
Disable ALL mods unless shipped with GWX
Then try a career

VIIC_41_Play3
Wolfehunters_IXB_C_MK2
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
Wolfehunters_XXI_U2511
Wolfehunter_VIIB_U83
Wolfehunters_IXC_U516

Are all untested in GWX 2

linerkiller
12-16-07, 08:41 AM
Does GWX 2.0 have fixed the Type IX periscopes bug?

VipertheSniper
12-16-07, 10:56 AM
Does GWX 2.0 have fixed the Type IX periscopes bug?

I would think so since it's fixed in GWX 1.03

Checkmate King 2
12-17-07, 01:38 PM
This time I was in the middle of a DC attack. I had received damage and had selected the damage report screen to see how bad I had been hit. The game then crashed and went to an report error window.

I don't ever recall having the game crash, for me, during a DC attack in the pre 2.0 days!!!!

Anyone else having this problem?

Wolfehunter
12-17-07, 01:57 PM
Thanks to all for your help, I disabled the SH4 effects and had a good run without crashes, so then I got a little carried away and popped in a coupele more skins to see what would happen, sure enough I got a spanking, CTD and the following message

AppName: sh3.exe AppVer: 1.4.0.1 ModName: sh3sim.act
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 0000196a


Guess I'll have to be a good boy and sit and wait just those dam Wollfhunter skins are so good here's a list of my active mods

VIIC_41_Play3
Wolfehunters_IXB_C_MK2
Wolfehunters_VIIB_C_U-408
Wolfehunters_XXI_U2511
Wolfehunter_VIIB_U83
Wolfehunters_IXC_U516



Its Tomi_099 model VII series mods. They're not compatible with GWX 2.0 yet. Tomi is working on it.

Skins in the overide folder called tex don't cause a game crash as far as I know. Even if the skin tga files is worded wrong it won't load into the game. SH3 will use its default skin in its DAT files.

Guys unless a modder states that a mod is GWX 2.0 compatible or working, a mod might work but there are risk.

For my skins you can use the default VIIB VIIC skins.

Oh wait a minute.:hmm: I just shot myself in the foot....:doh: XXI use dat files. :damn:
Rascal I'm going to release a XXI for GWX 2.0 soon. I will have to import tga file to it. I didn't think of that before dangit sorry.:nope: So my XXI skin might cause you crash too.

Vinny Jones
12-17-07, 04:20 PM
several ctd, always with crew management (buttons)

danlisa
12-17-07, 04:22 PM
several ctd, always with crew management (buttons)

Welcome to Subsim.:up:

Yep, you will get a CTD when using the Crew Management buttons. It's an original bug that was never fixed by the Ubisoft Devs. The way to avoid it is to manually move your crew around the stations.:up:

Enjoy GWX.

u48
12-17-07, 05:10 PM
Just to confirm what mr chris stated about multiplayer....We guys who play a lot of online stats at WPL find that you must ALL have the same install....Lets say theres 3-4 players who all have GWX 2.0 Now if someone as enabled a mod and others have not, chance is that player will crash....We find its best to have NO mods enabled at all.....Also the " bouncing DD syndrome " was mentioned....Again from testing GWX Multiplayer the host cannot and does see a bouncing DD....However after meeting up after the game we find that someone has forgotten to disable a mod, or that person has more than one install....ie stock install and gwx install. ( a guy at wpl once wrote that having two installs ie stock and gwx the gwx tries to set to the default install )
However most multiplayer games run ok with no trouble when players only have ONE install and no mods enabled....Hope this helps.

AOTD_MadMax
12-18-07, 02:20 AM
Hello Kaleuns,

the german MP-mission "Tankerverband TM1" made a CTD until loading.

Iam working on a Bugfix for some German MP-Missions.
If its ready i send it to BBW for testing it.

Greets

Maddy

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
12-18-07, 03:14 AM
i found out there are WAY less german MP missions in GWX 2.0, it has been a reason why i crashed by some games since i used the german text/sound/settings
i fixed this by puting all english ones in the german folder :up:

Jimbuna
12-18-07, 06:12 AM
The easiest and IMHO commonsense way (as used by so many of the GWX Team who have been playing MP together-in some cases for 18 months)....Is to have two separate installs. One should be dedicated solely to MP and be the basic GWX installation with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ADDED.
As soon as someone is allowed to enable or add just one thing, you potentially open the MP game up to a critaical state which can only lead to a CTD.
Normally, graphical changes such as sub skins are okay, but when I'm hosting a MP server I ask everyone to adhere to the cardinal 'no additions' rule which dramatically reduces the the chances of problems whilst hosting. :arrgh!:

Myxale
12-18-07, 06:22 AM
I have problems using the GWX VII/41 player sub! How do i use it exactly and what Boot Type do I need to choose in-game if i activate this mot via the mod-enabler?!:hmm: