Betterscopes 1.5.1 + Taskbar mods & various other mods combined for 1.4 [Archive]

De@dMe@t

12-01-07, 06:51 AM

Menu and taskbar mod For SH4 1.4 .

Included in this mod are the following.

Smaller vintage nav tools by Captain Cox.
Search Pattern Mod By Captain Cox.
Pull Down Map By Captain Cox.
Mini Chrono By Chumo.
BetterScopes 1.5.1 By by lethal Based On Captain Cox Work.
namograph by Hildofr.
Gold Chronograph Watch By DMz A.K.A De@dMe@t.

the Config also includes :

TBT fixed to closed at start.
slightly smaller rec manual text from origional slide out manual by kosch.
transparant message text used by panthercules (did not include moving message box ect).

Altered task bar config for the following :

battlestations on all stations.
silent running on all stations apart from deck gun aa guns and command bridge.
heading to view and view to heading on periscopes and tbt.
extra gramaphone and radio buttons on various menus.
crash dive on all stations emergancy surface on all stations except aa guns deck gun & command bridge.
Hud based on Oakgrooves and captain coxs altered and added to by Digital.Trucker
orders config ect altered by self to match the above.

probebly a few more task bar alterations cant remember for sure some stations have 8 or 9 items others 15 or 16.

all brought upto date for 1.4 by self .

NEW LINKS ARE AVAILABLE 9 POSTS DOWN

FOR 1024 1280 & 1440 RESOLUTION PLUS ALL HUDS INCLUDING 2 NEW ONES IN THE 7ZIP FILE.

i will probebly add to the taskbar menu over the next few days, theres plenty of scope on the hud for extra items such as open fire hold fire plus save and load ect
anyway if i do ill let you know.

its only a 2meg download because i 7zipped it on maximum compression.

Download updated with newer version, few extra buttons being used once more :)

and ive added a night attack chrono in the zip incase you fancy a change

De@dMe@t

12-01-07, 08:26 PM

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/Gertudedubeef/okay.jpg

suppose id better add a screenie of what you get.

ATR-42

12-02-07, 01:19 AM

WOW! really nice mods in a well done package! what a nice combo you put together here!!! :up::D

De@dMe@t

12-02-07, 02:08 AM

thank you m8 :)

final version now uploaded so ill link it here along with another screenie, quality is a bit grainy because i had to cut the images down ,its just to show whats on the task menu on each screen and how many icons are used ect

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/Gertudedubeef/layout.jpg

download final version. i may post a altered hud and a metal hud later on ,but they will be tiny addons.

NEW LINKS ARE AVAILABLE A FEW POSTS DOWN
FOR 1024 1280 & 1440 RESOLUTION PLUS ALL HUDS INCLUDING 2 NEW ONES IN THE 7ZIP FILE.

addon huds

heres jaketooks metal hud merged with digitaltruckers and oakgrooves & a non pinky version of oakgrooves hud as atr-42 pointed out pink really isnt fashionable on a sub ;)

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/Gertudedubeef/huds.jpg

NEW LINKS ARE AVAILABLE A FEW POSTS POSTS DOWN
FOR 1024 1280 & 1440 RESOLUTION PLUS ALL HUDS INCLUDING 2 NEW ONES IN THE 7ZIP FILE.

Vlad34

12-03-07, 01:13 AM

YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!......Thank you, thank you... I have been anxious for the v1.4 revision to come out. Cheers!:up:

Vlad34

12-03-07, 02:23 AM

swdw

12-03-07, 02:44 AM

Well, I did notice a problem. When I, for example, have the navigation tab selected there isn't room for all the command buttons. They run behind my fuel & Batt gauge. What do I need to edit? Thanks again...

You'll have to go into the 1024 x768 menu.ini file and delete some of the buttons you don't want. The all in one order bar hsows all buttoms a 1280X960 or higher. Might show all at 1152X864 but I'm not sure.

De@dMe@t

12-03-07, 04:08 AM

rebel5555

12-03-07, 06:52 AM

I'm having problems with the recognition manual using your mod. To use the recognition manual I have to hide the taskbar then go through the pages in the manual.

De@dMe@t

12-03-07, 01:58 PM

okay here are the final final versions, each has 4 diffrent huds in the zip 2 are my own creation with digital truckers and captain coxs icons on.

sorry for the dalay but ive had a hectic day .

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/Gertudedubeef/Hud_DMz.jpg

metalic worn looking hud i think more suited for subs, with green back lights ect.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/Gertudedubeef/new_hud_blue.jpg

and the same again but with what i think is a more subtle blue light and back light.

downloads are for : 1024x768 res minimum.
: 1280x768 res minimum.
: 1440x900 res minimum.

the 1024x res version has only 10 icons a section max plus youve lost the smaller rec manual, sorry but its unavoidable for that resolution.

the 1280x res version has 15 icons max a section and youve got the full mod.

the 1440x res version has 18 icons max a section and youve got the full mod.

let me know what you think of the new hud thanks.

http://rapidshare.com/files/74059841/TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1024ez.7z

http://rapidshare.com/files/74131462/TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1280rez.7z

http://rapidshare.com/files/74062390/TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1440rezMin.7z

This file makes this mod compatible with foofighters recognition manual.

http://rapidshare.com/files/74810194/menu_1024_768.zip

just unpack this zip , disable both mods, copy the menu_1024_768.ini , from the zip to the menu folder of betterscopes 1.5.1 pull bown map ect,then just overwrite the file in the mod, next reenable foos recognition manual mod, then reenable this mod, when prompted by menu_1024.ini is in use do you want to overwrite it, just click yes. foos mod and this mod will then work fine together.

Vlad34

12-03-07, 05:08 PM

Well, I did notice a problem. When I, for example, have the navigation tab selected there isn't room for all the command buttons. They run behind my fuel & Batt gauge. What do I need to edit? Thanks again...

what res you running in???

ill do the edit for your res and post it here,

mines running in 1280x800 so i probebly wouldent get a problem with the number of icons

editing the ini has nothing to do with that the relevent names are in the order
config

I am running it at 1280 x 1024. Thank you very much for revising this for different screen resolutions, and for doing it so darn quick! I really do appreciate it...
Also, nice touch with the colored HUD lights. That blue set looks terrific in-game.:up:

Lognoreng

12-03-07, 06:45 PM

Looks like good stuff, But for the love of god, i hate downloading extra programs to unpack files. Regular .zip ftw. In the age of broadband, uber compression is not needed

fred8615

12-03-07, 07:26 PM

How do I get the gramophone back? I changed the Usergramophone.dds file to the stock one before installing, but it's super huge in the game now. I don't want the pulldown map, just the gramophone.

De@dMe@t

12-03-07, 08:25 PM

How do I get the gramophone back? I changed the Usergramophone.dds file to the stock one before installing, but it's super huge in the game now. I don't want the pulldown map, just the gramophone.

you cant!

well not unless someone edits the pull down map out of the menu_1024__768.ini.

oh and if you deleted the default gramaphone. hmmm not a lot can be done. ;)

so i quess youd better have this, & overwrite the files in the origional mod with it.
then there wont be a map but a gramaphone and the rest of the mod will hopefully miraculously reapear. :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/74133530/DefaultGphoneFixPlusNoMap.7z

fred8615

12-04-07, 09:26 AM

you cant!

well not unless someone edits the pull down map out of the menu_1024__768.ini.

That's what I wanted to know. What to change in that file. I've got the stock gramophone to come up, it's just too big now.

Thanks for the fix.

tener

12-04-07, 11:36 AM

how do i install this mod??

De@dMe@t

12-04-07, 12:28 PM

once upacked youll have a folder called : TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1440rezMin.
(name will vary on version downloaded).

inside that is another called : TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1440rezMin

in there are : TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1440rez_min
: Alternative chrono
: Additionalhuds

: Drop : "TaskBar_Various_Mods_Final_1440rez_min" into your silent hunter 4 mods folder .
: enable using jsgme.

if you want the diffrent clock\chrono to try open (the night attack one):

: open the folder "Alternative chrono".
: copy the folder "Hamilton Chrono Night Attack" into your mods folder.
: enable using jsgme (if prompted file is in use do you want to overwrite it, click yes. all its doing is overwriting the gold chrono already loaded by the mod theres no harm in it).

if you want to use a diffrent hud :

: open the folder "Additionalhuds".
: copy & paste all 4 folders into your silent hunter 4 mods folder.
: enable the hud you want to try-use in jsgme. eigther "Hud__DMz_Blue_Lights"
"Hud__DMz_Green_Lights"
"hud__DT"
"hud_jaketoox"
again if prompted to ovewrite files just click yes.

: if you want to "again" change to a diffrent hud
: disable the enabled hud in jsgme & select diffrent hud then enable in jsgme. again youll be asked to ovewrite files click yes.

any more questions feel free to ask.

tener

12-04-07, 02:01 PM

wow.......all done cheers.looks the nuts.but i won,t clouds to.can,t get my cloud mod to work....:cry:

Cpt.Saubär

12-04-07, 05:10 PM

dont understand what the additional buttons per station do, whats the need?

De@dMe@t

12-05-07, 07:40 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/74443247/optional_scopes_Bearings.7z

i forgot to put these in the zip they are the clear as day dirty as hell scope masks and the bearing strips for diffrent resolutions soz.

Jas451

12-06-07, 11:08 AM

Tried using the better scopes mod on a clean install patched to 1.4. Keep getting this error when loading the game."Menu ID not found:0x31020001."

De@dMe@t

12-06-07, 02:01 PM

which version plus check its unpacked properly ect, see install instructions on previous page, and let me know what happens. may be a version specific error, but i tested them all and got no errors.

Doolittle81

12-06-07, 03:18 PM

Jas451

12-06-07, 06:16 PM

Sorry, fortgot to include version number. Its 1.51. Used jsgme to install

De@dMe@t

12-06-07, 07:10 PM

Sorry, fortgot to include version number. Its 1.51. Used jsgme to install

my fault for not being clear about it i meant for which resolution, ie for 1024min, 1280min or 1440min, then i can check that version thoughroughly soz.

De@dMe@t

12-06-07, 07:20 PM

Menu and taskbar mod For SH4 1.4 .
Included in this mod are the following.
...
slightly smaller rec manual text from origional slide out manual by kosch.
...

Is this compatible with Foofighters' rec manual? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125650

as it is no ,but this will make it compatible.

http://rapidshare.com/files/74810194/menu_1024_768.zip

& this is one is for default gramaphone version and foos manual

http://rapidshare.com/files/75189572/DefaultGphoneFixPlusNoMapFooVer.7z

just unpack this zip , disable both mods, copy the menu_1024_768.ini , from the zip to the menu folder of betterscopes 1.5.1 pull bown map ect,then just overwrite the file in the mod, next reenable foos recognition manual mod, then reenable this mod, when prompted by menu_1024.ini is in use do you want to overwrite it, just click yes. foos mod and this mod will then work fine together.

fred8615

12-07-07, 09:33 AM

Thank you so much for this!

:up: :up: :up:

Jas451

12-07-07, 10:27 AM

De@dMe@t, I run the game at 1600x1200 so I used the 1600 file? Is this correct

fred8615

12-07-07, 11:19 AM

I just thought of something: this is going to screw up my gramophone again, isn't it?

De@dMe@t

12-07-07, 05:45 PM

its ok fred ,its based on default gramophone version, i wasnt messing with foos config as he didnt list a change log in his readme, so i just used all 52 lines from the config, far as i can make out the diffrent versions hes got out all use basically the same menu_1024.ini ,just diffrent orders configs ect. so its fine.

plus above question about 1600+ ,the 1440 version is fine for that just get the additional bearing strips and scopes download which has bearing strip for your rez, will just make it slightly prettier plus lose any allignment glitches on the bearings in scope and tbt positions.
useing 1600 bearing strip as you stated was quite right.

Jas451

12-08-07, 08:12 AM

Played around with this quite a bit. I can get the menu bar mod to work, but still get the "menu id not found "error when trying to use betterscopes 1.5.1. The game tries to load then locks up. Are you using it with a clean install patched to 1.4?

De@dMe@t

12-08-07, 11:42 AM

its clean install i suspect somthings missing your end maybe jsgme threw a fit ect .
somtimes you get a ctd and when you restart its left half your loaded mods in the sh4 folder. has happened to me several times, otherwise all i can say is try one of the diffrent res versions and see if it does it with that, plus if your using trigger maru, the menu maybe diffrent. ive not looked into it i usually merge trigger rfb rsrd and just knock out the crash causers or change the menus so they work. but this mod was made using default 1.4 menu_1024.ini and menu plus orders config, all were default. and was tested on my clean install, i have one i use as backup. one i play. i can send you my menu but i cant see that helping??

Jas451

12-08-07, 02:55 PM

De@dMe@t, Please send me your menu. At least I can put them up side by side and compare. I know that will be tedious, but I really want to have Better Scopes back.

Bill Nichols

12-08-07, 06:15 PM

I've loaded the 1440rezMin version and here's something strange: The button that says "deploy gramaphone" looks like a small map, and when I click it nothing happens. Where's the gramaphone?

De@dMe@t

12-10-07, 08:13 AM

De@dMe@t, Please send me your menu. At least I can put them up side by side and compare. I know that will be tedious, but I really want to have Better Scopes back. Email : jascromb@yahoo.com

ok check your pms ive uploaded my menu for you.

also Bill thats the pull down map bottom rhs there are 4 buttons play ff rw stop.

if you want default version its posted somewhere above for fred who also wanted the default gramaphone. hope thats ok. been busy last day or so ,so sorry for the delay answering.

Captain Wreckless

01-15-08, 08:13 PM

Well I tried this but it doesn't seem to be working for me. The better periscopes seem ok and some of the buttons are there, but i can't seem to get the drop down map to work.

I've tried to compare my buttons screens with the screen shots, but the screen shots are to small for me to make out what buttons are what.

Is this compatible with TM 1.7.5, RSRD and ROW? Those are the mods I'm using.

I tried using the drop down map mod by itself but it crashes the game on startup.

CW :arrgh!:

De@dMe@t

01-16-08, 09:15 PM

the map may be throwing a fit because of your screen size, did you download the appropriate files for your resolution, plus trigger 1.75 wasnt out when i did this so i really have no idea what effects it will have on that because im not 100% sure of what menu changes have been made since 1.72, as with rsrd v2.0 which also wasnt out. ill take a look at the 2 and try running my menu and hud with it over the weekend, & if there are any problems hopefully sort them.

Captain Wreckless

01-17-08, 12:15 AM

OK, thanks. I'll wait for your results. As for the screen size, I was using my default 1600x1200. So it should have shown all of the buttons, correct? If so I think something probably got overwrote and may have screwed it up, what I don't know.

CW :arrgh!:

longam

01-17-08, 10:31 AM

Have the smaller navigation tools been updated to 1.4 because I always get the menu ID error when trying to use them?

steinbeck

05-05-08, 04:57 PM

Been up and down this post looking for the d/l link can't see one anywhere, although you keep saying it's a bit further down. Please enlighten me.

:hmm: steinbeck

Sailor Steve

05-05-08, 06:00 PM

First page, post #10. There're a whole bunch of RapidShare links, plus one more each in posts #14 and #20.

supposedtobeworking

05-06-08, 03:06 PM

anyone know if there is a better scopes compatible with 1.5? that was a must have for me and I am missing it. Is it possible to manually put it into the menuini file? there was a great one I used to use which had scuff marks on it...looked photo realistic.

andycaccia

05-09-08, 02:02 PM

But does this work also with the greman u boat?? I see screens of us submarine only. I need a "german side" version of this mod. Has this been made or not?

ATR-42

05-09-08, 03:56 PM

anyone know if there is a better scopes compatible with 1.5?
yes.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131981&highlight=%5BREL%5D

two versions of 'worn' better scopes for v15 uses different overlays for US and German attack scopes. it also incorporates Nomograph.

But does this work also with the greman u boat?? I see screens of us submarine only. I need a "german side" version of this mod. Has this been made or not?

US boat uses US scopes and standard nomograph. Uboats use german attack scope, but shares the US observation scope overlay while using a Metric Nomograph.