[REL] Completely new recognition manual

[FooFighters]

SHIV recognition manual by FooFighters.
First of all I wanna thank WernerSobe for starting this idea !

This manual is completely redone, no more country based.
You can now choose a manual based on sighting and ships signature.

These new are the catagories :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec12.jpg

Merchants
* Cargo Composite (structure, wheelhouse and smokestack attached)
* Multi national merchant manual (original merchant manual with both Jap and US ships).
* Cargo Split (wheelhouse, smokestack are seperated)
* Passenger ships (passenger & troop transport)
* Engine Aft (smokestack on back of the ship)

IJN warships
* IJN Battleships
* IJN Carriers
* IJN Cruisers
* IJN Destroyers
* IJN Patrol

Allied warships
* US Navy warships
* Royal Navy warships

All japanese merchants are now called ... Maru. This makes it more challenging to ID a ship.
Also it gives a more realistic feel then sighting a jap huge european liner :P

Ship length.. In the mod there will be 3 choises of names.cfg :

* No length
* Length in meters
* Length in feet

Download versions..There are 4 released versions of this mod :
Please use the one the suits your game.

Instalation order
* Make shure you enable TM, RFB, RSRDC and ROW before enabling the manual
* CapnSurvy's manual targeting ship centered mod must be enabled after this mod.

New stock and TM versions available.. 28th december 2007
New RFB version available.. 29th december 2007

Stock SH4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

TM1.7.5 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar

TM1.7.5 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar

Stock SH4 + RFB (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRFBV2.rar

RFB + RSRDC phase II (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecRFBRSRDCV2.rar

FAQ

1) Is this mod compatible with patch 1.4 ?
- Yes, this mod is only for patch 1.4 (the patch changes the menu1024x768)
2) Is this mod compatible with other mods ?
- Yes, with ROW, RFB, Run Silent Run Deep, Trigger Maru 1.7, Manual targeting ship centered
3) The order composite cargo - multi national ships - split cargo is strange, why ?
- Because this is hard coded by the devs. It cannot be modded.
4) Why are japenese merchants called Maru ?
- These are the original Japanese names for the merchants.
5) Why can't I open the manual ?
- You have to click on the bottom part of the manual (near the letters STR)
- I enlarged the (original flag) picture, throught this picture you cannot open the manual.
6) When can I enable this mod ?
- Only during new campaigns or when you are in base. Enabling during missions in campaign mode can give CTD's !
7) Standard the mod comes with length in feet, How do I change this ?
- In the mod a map called support is added, open this one. Choose the length type you want.
Copy it over the one in : silenthunter4/data/roster/names.cfg
8) Can I use this mod with the museum ?
- No, It will give CTD's. If you want to view the museum disable the mod.
- Same goes for using the mission editor, disable this mod first.

Make sure you use the right manual version that correspond with your mods !

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec3.jpg

Thanks
Foo

[leovampire]

Might have compatability problems between RSRD / TM and RFB due to new ship's and clasifications of ships added to the mod's and some ships have changed names in some of them.

SO make sure when you release it it says what it works well with for game change mod's.

But other wise great idea buddy!

[FooFighters]

Might have compatability problems between RSRD / TM and RFB due to new ship's and clasifications of ships added to the mod's and some ships have changed names in some of them.

SO make sure when you release it it says what it works well with for game change mod's.

But other wise great idea buddy!

I figured that, I want to ask a few quys to test it when it's ready.

[FooFighters]

removed because it were old pictures.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Lookin' good FF :up:


RDP

[Digital_Trucker]

Looking so good, I may have to break down and start using it instead of letting the crew do the job:up:

[FooFighters]

I am looking for a few guys who want to test my new manual.
Please PM me, also let me know if you use any major mods like TM, RFB, RSRD and ROW.

I have written and tested it with both TM and ROW.
Both RSRD or RFB mods have not been tested yet.

Anyone interested ?

:up:

[fireship4]

Will you please do a version when the pages are red-lit to aid night vision? White pages really affect your eyes when all else is dark. There's a mod that does this for the standard manual on the mod list page called "Even darker recognition manual".

Also do you take all your ship dimensions from JP's ship dimension fix 1.3? I'm unsure now which ones are more correct, TM or JP's.

I'll be happy to test too, though my PC is on the blink. I run TM 1.6.5.

[FooFighters]

Will you please do a version when the pages are red-lit to aid night vision? White pages really affect your eyes when all else is dark. There's a mod that does this for the standard manual on the mod list page called "Even darker recognition manual".

Also do you take all your ship dimensions from JP's ship dimension fix 1.3? I'm unsure now which ones are more correct, TM or JP's.

I'll be happy to test too, though my PC is on the blink. I run TM 1.6.5.

Hi fireship4,

I will take a look on the red-lit style..

As far as I know, the JP fix dimensions is included in all TM versions.
So you should be oke.

I will PM you download link.

:up:

p.s. I will redo the cover color a bit because I have a CRT monitor at home.
The color there is more dark and greyish. Looks great.
Here at work it looks to green and well.. not so great.

[DrBeast]

p.s. I will redo the cover color a bit because I have a CRT monitor at home.
The color there is more dark and greyish. Looks great.
Here at work it looks to green and well.. not so great.

Well, it's obviously the CRT monitor that shows the right colors...gotta love those beasts! :up:

[tater]

I might have a crack at new pages at some point. I'm thinking I need to use Streamline to change the line art I have to vector so I can have them be clean.

I had also planned on dumping the various "extra" views of merchants entirely, they simply didn't exist in RL. You got an elevation line drawing, and maybe a plan view and a picture.

This is typical:

http://members.spinn.net/%7Emerrick/Stuff/14MKFM.jpg

Note the "B" under the scale bars. That indicates that the data shown is just "OK." "A" would be it's very reliable. "C" would mean that aside from any photos, it's a total guess.

Most merhants have a "C" next to them in ONI 208-J.

[FooFighters]

That would look pretty cool Tater

:up:

[mrbeast]

Would it be possible to include a screen shot, suitably enhanced and in black and white, as the photo refference?

Or even better RL photos of the SH4 ships, that is the ships that SH based its models on, if suitable ones exist?

[FooFighters]

Back to the drawing board..

I was stupid enough to not test in a carreer :damn: :damn:
CTD and CTD's..

:damn:

[fireship4]

FooFighters, why dont you get together with Tater? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent.

Cheers for the link, I will test if I can.

[Edited because I said Ducimus instead of Tater!]

[FooFighters]

FooFighters, why dont you get together with Ducimus? I'm sure together you could pull of something outstanding, and it seems pointless to have two people working on the same thing separately. Of course If this happens I demand 10% cut of all profits as your new agent.

Cheers for the link, I will test if I can.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
I did not know Ducimus was also working on a manual :hmm:

[tater]

http://members.spinn.net/%7Emerrick/Stuff/nagara_copy.jpg


http://members.spinn.net/%7Emerrick/Stuff/ConteVerde_copy.jpg

Those are 2 I have done (I have many set up in the right way so far in work I was doing with WernerSobe).

The problem is the alpha channel to make them appear on the background properly.

[fireship4]

What sacrifices are you going to make in transferring the real recognition manual to the game? I suppose if size is a problem there may be a way of enlarging the Manual onscreen using the menu files?

OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams.

Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe.

[mrbeast]

Just as an experament, I edited some screenies I had of Jap merchants to look like ONI ID manual photos. I tried to get them to look poor quality as many of the ONI images seem to be.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1853/oniphoto1zinbumaru12na2pc2.jpg http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7452/oniphoto1maru23qy8ar4.jpg

[tater]

Certainly closer, that's for sure. I'd be inclined to put a civie paint job on them, too.

[mrbeast]

Certainly closer, that's for sure. I'd be inclined to put a civie paint job on them, too.

Will give it a go, Tater.:up: Quite enjoyed making those images.

Ill have a go at adding neutrality markings to the sides of the hull too, seems that that quite a few images show ships in these markings.

[FooFighters]

Yeehaaaaa..

I love the 1.4 patch..

For some strange reason (devs?) my new manual also works in career mode.
Still some rewriting to do.. but so far so good !
Goodby country manual :yep:

:D :D

I am building it up on patch 1.4 + TM user interface mod + RSRDC stock for 1.4

[FooFighters]

Here a updatet 1.4 compatible sneakpeak of the upcoming new manual.
It's now compatible with RSRDC.

The British warship manual cover
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec6.jpg

Matsu class destroyer (new images.. no more SH3 rec manual images)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec7.jpg

Repulse Class battle cruiser ( also new images)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec8.jpg

HMS Repluse, not a perfect copy, but pretty good if you ask me
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Cockpit/5520/gb/repulse1.jpg

:up:

[TaggedYa]

OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams.

Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe.

There is no need to use a recognition manual to put the mast height into the stadimeter. Just drag the mast height ring around to the mast height you want to use and do your split image. Then send to TDC. You don't ever need to identify the ship at all.

[TaggedYa]

Foo

I am using TM Enviro and RSRDC so I can test your current version if you would like.

I also like the external printable idea. I currently use a paper list that just has mast and funnel layouts as a reminder of mast heights.

I have been contimplaiting a printed version with screen shots of the merchants at 15 degree intervals to help with AOB estimations. That is my current biggest problem in targeting.

[FooFighters]

OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams.

Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe.

There is no need to use a recognition manual to put the mast height into the stadimeter. Just drag the mast height ring around to the mast height you want to use and do your split image. Then send to TDC. You don't ever need to identify the ship at all.

As far as I know you will have to ID to insert the right mast hight.
This will increase the accurancy of the distance when using the stadimeter.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Here a updatet 1.4 compatible sneakpeak of the upcoming new manual.
It's now compatible with RSRDC.

The British warship manual cover
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec6.jpg

Matsu class destroyer (new images.. no more SH3 rec manual images)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec7.jpg

Repulse Class battle cruiser ( also new images)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec8.jpg

HMS Repluse, not a perfect copy, but pretty good if you ask me
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Cockpit/5520/gb/repulse1.jpg

:up:

Looks good Foo :yep::up:


RDP

[TaggedYa]

OR you could go the really realistic route and do a printable manual, that would solve all size and night vision darkness problems, maybe use screenshots from the game instead of the photos, as well as diagrams.

Though I suppose you would still have to dip into the in-game manual to send the mast-height to TDC, but then again if you are working on the printable version only you could simply turn the in-game manual into a scrolling list of just big names on the pages instead of pictures - which you select from after you've picked from the printed manual. That would leave you time to red light the pages maybe.

There is no need to use a recognition manual to put the mast height into the stadimeter. Just drag the mast height ring around to the mast height you want to use and do your split image. Then send to TDC. You don't ever need to identify the ship at all.

As far as I know you will have to ID to insert the right mast hight.
This will increase the accurancy of the distance when using the stadimeter.


You can't manually dial in a perfect height as the rec manual to stadimeter system uses tenths of a foot and you can only get within a foot or so at 120 feet but it is plenty accurate for manual plotting. It also allows for other variations. For instance I have a hard time seeing the tips of the masts at long range. I can just use the height to the top of the funnel instead. You can't do that using the Rec Manual to input height.

[WernerSobe]

Looking forward to see the results.

Btw.. doubts about compability problems with campaign mod should be arbitary as long the old roster remains untouched. As far as i know foo is using dummy ships which appear only in manual not in game itself. They are basicly copies of existing ones. The campaign should have access to old roster.

[FooFighters]

Here some new shots of various covers.. I did not really liked the way I did it first.
Now the white letters also change with the manual.
So no more US warships with Japanese merchant ships text :damn:

Hope you like them.. sure was a lot of work to get it right..

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec10.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec11.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec12.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec13.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec14.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec15.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec16.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/rec17.jpg

[FooFighters]

The manual has been send out to some testers, so if everythings goes fine it will be ready for download quickly.

If you have not recieved my PM, or you want to test the manual please send me a PM.

Thanks
Foo

:up:

[FooFighters]

The manual has been tested by different testers, there was just one small problem that has been fixed.

Release will be later this week.

I am now adding length for Japanese warships to the names.cfg files.
In the mod there will be 3 choises :

* No length
* Length in meters
* Length in feet

There will be 4 release versions of this mod :

* Stock SH4
* Stock SH4 + RSRDC
* TM1.7 version
* TM1.7 + RSRDC

This mod is compatible with the following mods :
Patch 1.4 only !
ROW
Trigger Maru 1.7
Run silent run deep V1.4
Manual targeting ship centered (enable after enabling this mod)

I never used RFB and have no idea if this will work.

:up:

[fireship4]

Do you think you'll be able to add various heights to each ship's picture (ie funnel height, main deck height for a carrier etc.) so that we can choose our own reference point and manually input it?

As shown in another thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126016), a more centrally located reference point such as a funnel can give much better results, partly because the mast do not show their heights properly in many situations.

[FooFighters]

Do you think you'll be able to add various heights to each ship's picture (ie funnel height, main deck height for a carrier etc.) so that we can choose our own reference point and manually input it?

As shown in another thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126016), a more centrally located reference point such as a funnel can give much better results, partly because the mast do not show their heights properly in many situations.

I will finish the mod like it is now first.. then I will take a look at it.
But I think it's possible. Just whole lot of work.

:up:

[fireship4]

Yes just an idea, modding is a hard job to fit around life. Thing is though there are something like 4 recognition manual projects going on at the moment. Seems like a lot of wasted effort to me when you could all be working together.

[FooFighters]

Yes just an idea, modding is a hard job to fit around life. Thing is though there are something like 4 recognition manual projects going on at the moment. Seems like a lot of wasted effort to me when you could all be working together.

I do agree with you..

As far as I know there are only 2 working project atm..
Mine and the "manual targeting ship centered" mod.

Both are really different mod.
Mine is about the sections and graphic inside the manual.
The other mod is a solution on better range measurement.

My mod is compatible with that mod. Just do mine first and then the other.

:up:

[fireship4]

Well theres the ONI recognition manual being done by someone and if I remember correctly someone else also is trying/tried to just reorder the manual into sections to make it easier.

[FooFighters]

Well theres the ONI recognition manual being done by someone and if I remember correctly someone else also is trying/tried to just reorder the manual into sections to make it easier.

The ONI manual has been cancelled some time ago.
I did discuss with WernerSobe about the posibilities of a rec ONI mod.
He also tested the manual.

The other reorder was (I think) my first manual, this eventualy became this one.

[FooFighters]

It's online... have fun, hope you like it :up:

There are 4 versions, please use the correct one.

Stock SH4..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4.rar

Stock SH4 with RSRDC (and TM interface mod)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDC.rar

Stock SH4 with TM1.7..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17.rar

TM17 with RSRDC..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDC.rar

FAQ

1) Is this mod compatible with patch 1.4 ?
- Yes, this mod is only for patch 1.4 (the patch changes the menu1024x768)
2) Is this mod compatible with other mods ?
- Yes, with ROW, Run Silent Run Deep, Trigger Maru 1.7, Manual targeting ship centered
3) The order composite cargo - multi national ships - split cargo is strange, why ?
- Because this is hard coded by the devs. It cannot be modded.
4) Why are japenese merchants called Maru ?
- These are the original Japanese names for the merchants.
5) When can I enable this mod ?
- Only during new campaigns or when you are in base. Enabling during missions in campaingn mode can give CTD's !
6) Standard the mod comes with length in feet, How do I change this ?
- In the mod a map called support is added, open this one. Choose the length type you want. Copy it over the one in :
silenthunter4/data/roster/names.cfg

[DeepIron]

Ok FF... So can I expect this outstanding work of yours to play nicely with Sobers Super Mod (ROW and RSRDC based)? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126250

[FooFighters]

Ok FF... So can I expect this outstanding work of yours to play nicely with Sobers Super Mod (ROW and RSRDC based)? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126250

Try the SH4 stock + RSRDC manual. This one should do the trick.
The only small concern is the RFB part.
I don't know if this also adds ships like TM.

If not, you should be oke.

;)

[DeepIron]

Thx FF! Your graphic work is always First Rate and I've been in anticipation of this latest project since you announced it :up::up::up:

[FooFighters]

Thx FF! Your graphic work is always First Rate and I've been in anticipation of this latest project since you announced it :up::up::up:

Thanks DeepIron, I appreciate it :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Bump!

[WilhelmTell]

Really a nice piece of work. Thank you FooFighters ! :rock:

[De@dMe@t]

very very nice work :rock:

[602Sqn_Puff]

Had problems with the game looking for OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga in the menu layout folder...performed a search of the SH4 folder and found nothing. WOuld it be possible to have this file from you Foofighter to allow me to run your mod? Hell knows where the file went to lol. Im running stock with ROW and RSRDC 1.4...only other mods are visual stuff and downloaded the appropriate file from you.

[WernerSobe]

Had problems with the game looking for OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga in the menu layout folder...performed a search of the SH4 folder and found nothing. WOuld it be possible to have this file from you Foofighter to allow me to run your mod? Hell knows where the file went to lol. Im running stock with ROW and RSRDC 1.4...only other mods are visual stuff and downloaded the appropriate file from you.

Thats your visual mods that cause this. This file is a perescope lense.

[602Sqn_Puff]

Had problems with the game looking for OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga in the menu layout folder...performed a search of the SH4 folder and found nothing. WOuld it be possible to have this file from you Foofighter to allow me to run your mod? Hell knows where the file went to lol. Im running stock with ROW and RSRDC 1.4...only other mods are visual stuff and downloaded the appropriate file from you.
Thats your visual mods that cause this. This file is a perescope lense.

Thamks mate..ran a search of the complete folder and can't find the file anywhere...checked the menu.ini file included in the new rec. manual and found it here

[G2B I136]
Name=BackgroundWithWhole
Type=1030;Static bmp
ItemID=0x2B000001
ParentID=0x2B000000
Pos=0,0,1024,768
Zone= 0 768 1024 768 5 1 0x2B000000 0.5 -0.5 0x2B000001 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0xFFFFFFFF
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga
Crop 0=0,0.125,1,0.75
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0

I definately don't have this file in any folder within the SH4 directory...when I remove the new rec manul mod the game runs again. Is it safe to just delete this entry in the menu.ini...or do I then have to renumber all the entries etc...ie this section [G2B I136] and move all subsequent entries up one...so [G2B I137] changes to [G2B I136]??

[FooFighters]

Had problems with the game looking for OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga in the menu layout folder...performed a search of the SH4 folder and found nothing. WOuld it be possible to have this file from you Foofighter to allow me to run your mod? Hell knows where the file went to lol. Im running stock with ROW and RSRDC 1.4...only other mods are visual stuff and downloaded the appropriate file from you.
Thats your visual mods that cause this. This file is a perescope lense.

Thamks mate..ran a search of the complete folder and can't find the file anywhere...checked the menu.ini file included in the new rec. manual and found it here

[G2B I136]
Name=BackgroundWithWhole
Type=1030;Static bmp
ItemID=0x2B000001
ParentID=0x2B000000
Pos=0,0,1024,768
Zone= 0 768 1024 768 5 1 0x2B000000 0.5 -0.5 0x2B000001 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Color=0xFFFFFFFF
Materials=1
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga
Crop 0=0,0.125,1,0.75
MatFlags=0x9
TexFmt=0x0

I definately don't have this file in any folder within the SH4 directory...when I remove the new rec manul mod the game runs again. Is it safe to just delete this entry in the menu.ini...or do I then have to renumber all the entries etc...ie this section [G2B I136] and move all subsequent entries up one...so [G2B I137] changes to [G2B I136]??

Thats really strange, I did not put it there. It has nothing to do with my mod.
What happens when you remove the data/menu/gui/layout/OBSperiscope_mask_1024.tga ?

I will release a new version with this tga tonight, just to prevent problems.
As far as I know it's just a TGA file with periscope lens.
Won't hurt the game, if it's in there.

Sorry for the problems guys, I should have noticed this.
I will fix it as soon as I get home from work.

[DrBeast]

I remember seeing that line (and the accompanying .dds file) in a mod that made the periscope lines green, for improved night aiming. Maybe you were using that mod and the .ini change slipped in but the .dds file was left out?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice work on this Foo :yep::up:


RDP

[FooFighters]

edit : I have added the periscope texture to the downloads on page 1.
This should remove all problems.

[WernerSobe]

The problem with missing .tga file is because you have taken an already modded menu file foo. If you want something being compatible with stock, you should take unmodded files and work there. Because you never know what other authors have changed.

Its always easier to make stock-mods compatible with other mods, then mod-mods compatible with stock.

[FooFighters]

The problem with missing .tga file is because you have taken an already modded menu file foo. If you want something being compatible with stock, you should take unmodded files and work there. Because you never know what other authors have changed.

Its always easier to make stock-mods compatible with other mods, then mod-mods compatible with stock.

I 100% agree, I thought I was using the stock menu1024x768.
Guess not :D

[602Sqn_Puff]

Works great now mate...thanks for this :)

[602Sqn_Puff]

Spoke to soon, this is the Obs scope now :(..something isn't right lol

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/602RAF_Puff/obs.jpg

[FooFighters]

Spoke to soon, this is the Obs scope now :(..something isn't right lol


What did you do ? Use the modified menu1024x768.
Or did you re-download the file from the 1st. page ?

The downloads now contain the missing file.

[602Sqn_Puff]

I used the menu ini file you posted as a fix...don't get the error when launching now...but got this instead...!!...anyways I think it maybe down to another mod...I copied and pasted, from the addional hud bar mod Im running , the line for the obs scope and it's working now...sorry to lead you astray mate.

[FooFighters]

I used the menu ini file you posted as a fix...don't get the error when launching now...but got this instead...!!...anyways I think it maybe down to another mod...I copied and pasted, from the addional hud bar mod Im running , the line for the obs scope and it's working now...sorry to lead you astray mate.

Glad it works now, just to be shure I added the tga to all downloads.

Happy hunting

:up:

[DaveP63]

Love it, thanks! :up:

[FooFighters]

I will check compability with TM 1.7.2 tonight.
I know at least one ship has been added.

;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Sounds good FF :up:


RDP

[epower]

Well done. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's significantly added to my enjoyment of the game. Oddly, my last patrol was entirely in fog (SH3 flashbacks!) and the ability to make a quick and easy ID (vis was about 800 yards) after a 90 minute sonar set up was a Godsend.

Best,

epower

[FooFighters]

Thanks guys for all the kind works.. I appreciate it :up:

Here's a small update.
The TM versions have been updated to the latest TM version

TM1.7 version (updated for current version 1.7.2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17.rar

TM1.7 + RSRDC (updated for current version 1.7.2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDC.rar

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice work Foo :yep::up: Thought I would have to load up the new Trigger without this.


RDP

[FooFighters]

Nice work Foo :yep::up: Thought I would have to load up the new Trigger without this.

RDP

Afcourse not :p

I am a TM user from day one, the FTT days :rotfl:

[Joe S]

Is this manual available in a printable version? Thanks! Joe S

[FooFighters]

Is this manual available in a printable version? Thanks! Joe S

No, it's an ingame manual only

:up:

[leovampire]

I have a heavily moded menu file to accomidate mod's I am using.

Could I get a break down of what to change manualy to use your mod please?

BTW how are you doing hope all is well?!

And Merry Christmas;)

Dave

[FooFighters]

I have a heavily moded menu file to accomidate mod's I am using.

Could I get a break down of what to change manualy to use your mod please?

BTW how are you doing hope all is well?!

And Merry Christmas;)

Dave

Hi Dave,

Good to hear from you buddy.. Glad you're back home.
Everything is oke, one more day at work and then 2 weeks holiday. :D

I will PM you the changes tonight.

:up:

[leovampire]

I have a heavily moded menu file to accomidate mod's I am using.

Could I get a break down of what to change manualy to use your mod please?

BTW how are you doing hope all is well?!

And Merry Christmas;)

Dave

Hi Dave,

Good to hear from you buddy.. Glad you're back home.
Everything is oke, one more day at work and then 2 weeks holiday. :D

I will PM you the changes tonight.

:up:

Now just have to fine tune things to work with my game set up. LMAO :rotfl:

I think Duci is rubbing off on me!

[Doolittle81]

When I attempt to JSGME-enable this Mod over/after "RSRDC_P1_v105" I get this warning:

"Names.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"CLAtlanta.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDBenham.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDBristol.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDPorter.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDSims.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDSumner.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"CLModLeander.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"FFRiverClass.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"BCRepulse.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.


Should I ignore?

[FooFighters]

When I attempt to JSGME-enable this Mod over/after "RSRDC_P1_v105" I get this warning:

"Names.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"CLAtlanta.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDBenham.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDBristol.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDPorter.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDSims.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"DDSumner.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"CLModLeander.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"FFRiverClass.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.
"BCRepulse.cfg" has already been altered by the "RSRDC_P1_v105" mod.


Should I ignore?

You can overide them without any problems.

:up:

[FooFighters]

Oke guys, here an update on the manual for RSRDC phase II.
I will be away for a few days so I do not have much time to test it.
Especially the version with TM.

I played with the stock version without problems.
The TM version is the same with some extra boats.

If you do encounter a problem just let me know.
I will fix it when I am back home.

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (no length included, will follow soon)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV2.rar

TM1.7 + RSRDC phase II (no length included, will follow soon)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV2.rar

Because I am very limited in time atm, I released this version without length.
I will release an updated version later this week with length included.

[Reece]

This looks good, cant wait to try it out! Thanks FF.:up:

[black1]

Any news on this mod with length in meters for the marus? I play T.M. latest with RSRDC latest all patched up with up to date as of 12/26. Will this still be available soon with length in meters? Thanks and i love the new recognition manual.

[FooFighters]

Any news on this mod with length in meters for the marus? I play T.M. latest with RSRDC latest all patched up with up to date as of 12/26. Will this still be available soon with length in meters? Thanks and i love the new recognition manual.

I will go back to work on it tomorrow.
Eta around the weekend

:up:

[black1]

Awesome, will this have length in meters? that would be great, take care mate.

[FooFighters]

Awesome, will this have length in meters? that would be great, take care mate.

Yes.. in feet en meters ;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice work on the updates Foo :up:


RDP

[FooFighters]

New version 3 available. Now compatible with TM 1.7.4 and RSRDC phase II.
Length in feet and meters included in all downloads.

Stock SH4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

TM1.7.4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar

TM1.7.4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar

Have fun, please report any problems.

:up:

[black1]

Great thanks mate really appreciate your work.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Great work Foo :yep::up:


RDP

[black1]

How do i go about getting it in meters, do i need to copy the folder in meters and use that or what, thanks for the info.

[ReallyDedPoet]

How do i go about getting it in meters, do i need to copy the folder in meters and use that or what, thanks for the info.
7) Standard the mod comes with length in feet, How do I change this ?
- In the mod a map called support is added, open this one. Choose the length type you want. Copy it over the one in : silenthunter4/data/roster/names.cfg

From the read me :yep::up:


RDP

[black1]

Got it, thanks a million.

[beartooth91]

New version 3 available. Now compatible with TM 1.7.4 and RSRDC phase II.
Length in feet and meters included in all downloads.

Stock SH4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

TM1.7.4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar

TM1.7.4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar

Have fun, please report any problems.

:up:

Can any of these be used with RFB + RSRDC ?

[Bluesub 6]

Good work Foo, Thanks:up:

[FooFighters]

New version 3 available. Now compatible with TM 1.7.4 and RSRDC phase II.
Length in feet and meters included in all downloads.

Stock SH4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

TM1.7.4 (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockTM17V3.rar

TM1.7.4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecTM17RSRDCV3.rar

Have fun, please report any problems.

:up:

Can any of these be used with RFB + RSRDC ?

No, not yet.
But I think it's time to also make it RFB compatible.

[Wilcke]

Foo,

Thanks man! This is another "must have" mod!:up:

[FooFighters]

Hey guys.. great news.

I contacted Beartooth91 about his question with RFB compability.
So I downloaded RFB and checked all files.

It seems RFB adds no ships so you can use stock version (with RSRDC phase II) together with RFB.

Beartooth91 tested the manual together with RFB and RSRDC phase II.
And no problems occured.

So here's the link for the RFB compatible recognition manual.

If you encounter any kind of problem, please let me know.

Foo
:up:

EDIT : NEWER RFB VERSION AVAILABLE FROM 1ST PAGE

[Laffertytig]

think il wait before addin this to RFB as it want to write over close to 100 files

[DrBeast]

Since there's now an RSRDC-compatible version, I'm now gonna give this mod a spin...when I'm back home, that is! :up:

[beartooth91]

Hey guys.. great news.

I contacted Beartooth91 about his question with RFB compability.
So I downloaded RFB and checked all files.

It seems RFB adds no ships so you can use stock version (with RSRDC phase II) together with RFB.

Beartooth91 tested the manual together with RFB and RSRDC phase II.
And no problems occured.

So here's the link for the RFB compatible recognition manual.

Stock SH4 (version 3), RFB compatible
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockSH4V3.rar

Stock SH4 + RSRDC phase II (version 3), RFB + RSRDC II compatible
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRSRDCV3.rar

If you encounter any kind of problem, please let me know.

Foo
:up:

Everyone -

On my 2nd computer, I went back to RFB RC1. I then installed RSRDC v240 (for RFB) over it, then the RSRDC v240 patch 1. After all that, I installed the RSRDCV3 rec manual version over all the above. Then took the boat on patrol, opened the rec manual, and flipped thru ALL of the pages during my transit to off Honshu. No CTD's. It works.

beartooth91

[FooFighters]

think il wait before addin this to RFB as it want to write over close to 100 files

Thats right, most of them are silluettes of ships and the roster files.
Just enable this mod when in base.
If something should go wrong you can always remove it with JGSME.

If you use CapnSurvy's ship manual targeting mod, don't forget to enable that after this mod !

[black1]

Foofighter could you do me a big favor mate. I used to use the old names of the marus such as huge european liner,large modern tanker,medium old composite superstructure freighter etc, etc with the "old aspect ratio", by finding out the new aspect ratio i could get my AOB. Would you be so kind as to give me a list of the new names you use along side of there old names:example: Hakitu Maru=medium old tanker

Because i have the "old aspect ratio's" for those boats. Thanks mate I love your new recognition manual. Forgot to say i only need the maru's not warships at all.

[sqk7744]

Excellent work Foo!
THANK YOU!

[FooFighters]

Foofighter could you do me a big favor mate. I used to use the old names of the marus such as huge european liner,large modern tanker,medium old composite superstructure freighter etc, etc with the "old aspect ratio", by finding out the new aspect ratio i could get my AOB. Would you be so kind as to give me a list of the new names you use along side of there old names:example: Hakitu Maru=medium old tanker

Because i have the "old aspect ratio's" for those boats. Thanks mate I love your new recognition manual. Forgot to say i only need the maru's not warships at all.

That's a good question.. I am using the maru names for about 6 months now.
But there a way to find out.

Can you please go to data/roster/names.cfg (open with notepad).

Please copy and paste the ships (sea) content in this topic.
I will fill in the Maru names for you.

:cool:

@sqk7744 Thanks mate :up:

@everybody.. I will release a newer version of the RFB manual mod later this evening.
RFB has an own menu1024.768.ini which was not included.

I had no complains so far so there should not be to much differences between stock SH4 and RFB menu file.

[FooFighters]

Found it :up:

KMSSBiyo=Medium Old Split Freighter Biyo Maru
KMSSKinposan=Medium Modern Split Freighter Kinposan Maru
KMCSHeito=Medium Modern Composite Freighter Heito Maru
KMCSAkita=Medium Old Composite Freighter Akita Maru
KLSSHakusika=Large Old Split Freighter Hakusika Maru
KLCSNagara=Large Modern Composite Freighter Nagara Maru
KMCSZinbu=Medium European Composite Freighter Zinbu Maru
KSCSTaihosan=Small Modern Composite Freighter Taihosan Maru
KSSSKasagisan=Small Old Split Freighter Kasagisan Maru
PLConteVerde=Huge European Liner Kotobuki Maru
PLKiturin=Modern Passenger Liner Kiturin Maru
PLHorai=Large Old Passenger Carrier Horai Maru
PSTyohei=Small Passenger Carrier Tyohei Maru
OSHaruna=Small Old Tanker Haruna Maru
OMBuzyun=Medium Old Tanker Buzyun Maru
OLNippon=Large Modern Tanker Nippon Maru

[black1]

Awesome thanks so much mate. I had an idea for you if you like, i know it might be a pain in the butt, but it would be great to have those maru ships with the aspect ratio figures in the manual, I have the aspect ratio numbers if you need them, just a small suggestion for ya, let me know if you would like the numbers. This helps so much to find out angle on bow when not using map updates. Thanks again Foo

[FooFighters]

Awesome thanks so much mate. I had an idea for you if you like, i know it might be a pain in the butt, but it would be great to have those maru ships with the aspect ratio figures in the manual, I have the aspect ratio numbers if you need them, just a small suggestion for ya, let me know if you would like the numbers. This helps so much to find out angle on bow when not using map updates. Thanks again Foo

I have no room to put it, If I make the length longer some parts will not be visible.
I have no idea where to put them otherwise.

[FooFighters]

Hey there captains,

As promised, here's release version 2 of the manual for RFB.
This version included RFB's menu1024x768.ini with rec manual changes.

Stock SH4 + RFB (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecStockRFBV2.rar

RFB + RSRDC phase II (version 2)
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/RecRFBRSRDCV2.rar

Hope you like it

:up:

[black1]

Sure no problem, just a suggestion, thanks for your work.

[castorp345]

Hi FooFighters,

'love the work you've been doing here!

edit: was having ctd troubles...
'problem was in my roster folder...
solved.
:doh:


in any event, great mod!
:up:

many thanks,
hc

[fred8615]

Miner1436 has released some new ship types. So far he has a BB, 2 CVs, a DD, and a CA. They show up in your manual, but all under "Cargo Composite," not in the books they should be in.

[FooFighters]

Miner1436 has released some new ship types. So far he has a BB, 2 CVs, a DD, and a CA. They show up in your manual, but all under "Cargo Composite," not in the books they should be in.

That's correct. one of the problems when using several mods.
Here's how the fix it.

The cargo composite map is originaly the Japan map. That's why it shows up there.
All files can be found in C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Roster

* First, copy the new (installed) files in the Japan map to the desired Foo manual map

Canadian = Battleships
France = Carriers
German = Cruisers
India = Destroyers
Netherlands = All other IJN patrol vessels

* Second, rename all new ships ID's in the japan map to 100

[UnitClass]
ClassName=CVShokaku
UnitType=100 <----------------------
AppearanceDate=19410808
DisappearanceDate=19441025
DisplayName=JP CV Shokaku

Then they will not show up in the Cargo composite map anymore.

Hope this fixes you're problem.

:up:

[fred8615]

That worked!! Thank you! :up: :up: :up:

[Lopo]

FooFighters,

Is your last version V3 totally compatible with TM 1.76 and RSRD III 320?

Thank you for your work.

Kind Regards

[FooFighters]

FooFighters,

Is your last version V3 totally compatible with TM 1.76 and RSRD III 320?

Thank you for your work.

Kind Regards

Just checked the RSRDC thread and the answer is unforgently no.
The mods adds new ships.

I will see in to it asap..
But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

[ReallyDedPoet]

But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

Ok the job\honeymoon I understand, but the marriage, you never heard of " yes dear ", c'mon Foo :lol::lol:


RDP

[Lopo]

FooFighters,

Is your last version V3 totally compatible with TM 1.76 and RSRD III 320?

Thank you for your work.

Kind Regards
Just checked the RSRDC thread and the answer is unforgently no.
The mods adds new ships.

I will see in to it asap..
But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

Take your time Sir...
I understand... I too will get married very soon!

Kind Regards

[FooFighters]

But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

Ok the job\honeymoon I understand, but the marriage, you never heard of " yes dear ", c'mon Foo :lol::lol:


RDP

:rotfl: :rotfl:
I agree, but I want to see what I am paying for

:up:

[DrBeast]

But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

Oh man, I am SO sorry! I'll drink a beer in your memory! :rotfl:
Seriously now, all the best to you, mate! :up:

[FooFighters]

But I am really busy with job, planning my marriage and honeymoon stuff..

Oh man, I am SO sorry! I'll drink a beer in your memory! :rotfl:
Seriously now, all the best to you, mate! :up:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
thanks

[fireship4]

Bump, should be on front page.

[Able72]

bump, I agree.

It's been 2 months, Any word on an update? what about updating for 1.5?

[Pikes]

knock knock! im gagging for a 1.5 version!

[Washington]

I heard someone say that the crew can identify the target for you? Is there a mod to activate this feature? That would make things a lot easier.

[Able72]

I heard someone say that the crew can identify the target for you? Is there a mod to activate this feature? That would make things a lot easier.

You sure they weren't talking about SH3? Your wepons officer in SH3 can do that, when you use the OCL Gui mod.

[Carotio]

I heard someone say that the crew can identify the target for you? Is there a mod to activate this feature? That would make things a lot easier.

SH4:
Playing US Fleet boats, the ship type is identified in the "? forgot the name ? = the device at your top left side in periscope view", if playing with auto targetting on. One just has to look in the manual one self to find the ship.
Playing Uboats, one just has to double click "target" in upper right box in periscope view and the rec.manual pops up with the right ship, again with auto targetting on.

EDIT:
My post number 500 :rock::ping:

[Washington]

Isnt there a way to do it without autotargeting?

[jcdenton712]

Hey,
yep, there is an easier and better way. Go and find the commands.cfg file in your SH-installation (should be in the CFG-folder IIRC, sorry, can't look it up as I'm at work right now ;) ). Open that file with a text editor and find the line where it says "Identify_Target". Should be command 343 IIRC. Right there you can define your own key to use for this command. I for some reason chose Ctrl-V. To do that, add the line

Key0=0x56,c,"Ctrl+V"
0x56 is the V-key, the following "c" means that it's supposed to be pressed together with the Ctrl-key and the "Ctrl+V" is just for your reference so you remember what your settings mean.

So whenever I lock a ship in periscope view I press Ctrl-V and my crew identifies the target. Takes a few seconds and the ship has to be locked the entire time. The ship type will automatically be entered into the TDC.

I hope this works. If not, let me know and I'll look it up at home tonight as I wrote this just from memory ;)

Cheers
JC

[DrBeast]

I heard someone say that the crew can identify the target for you? Is there a mod to activate this feature? That would make things a lot easier.

Trigger Maru ships with this feature.
As for the future of this mod, last I heard of Foofighters he was getting married. And we know that modding and marriage don't mix well, at least in the beginning :rotfl:

[Able72]

I heard someone say that the crew can identify the target for you? Is there a mod to activate this feature? That would make things a lot easier.
Trigger Maru ships with this feature.
As for the future of this mod, last I heard of Foofighters he was getting married. And we know that modding and marriage don't mix well, at least in the beginning :rotfl:

Is it also tied to Cntrl-V as the hotkey? How do you get your crew to Id your targets?

[SleightOfHand]

*waves thread necromancy hands*

Do the changes in RFB for 1.5 screw anything here up?

[virtualpender]

Will this mod work with 1.5 and the latest version of RSRDC?

[DrBeast]

Read the FAQ, people, it's at the very first post.

[mountainbikextremist]

I have looked around for the good part of an afternoon looking, and havent found anything yet. Is there a Recognition Manual mod that has the ship length's available for SHIV v1.5 yet? I would be even better if there is one out there with that and the standard aspect ratios pre-calculated. Happy torping all!:arrgh!:

[cgjimeneza]

how about a current TMO152+RSRD / RFB + RSRD plus one for Op Monusn, released as a color PDF to have a booklet available...

thats an idea!

[mountainbikextremist]

how about a current TMO152+RSRD / RFB + RSRD plus one for Op Monusn, released as a color PDF to have a booklet available...

thats an idea!

I know PDF versions exist but I have me hearts set on an actual mod that fixes the in game recog manual.

[Rahadianmail]

DOWNLOAD LINKS IS DEAD. WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD?

[Luno]

Seconded...This looks like a nice mod.