finishing them off

[rizZO_77]

Last night i managed to hit a c3 with my last two eels driving my IIA sub. The ship came to a dead stop but didn't sink.

Normally i would RTB, leaving the ship where it is but since it is a kind of juicy one i started wondering if it is possible to finish ships off with the flak gun and if so how.

If it can be done how should you do it? Riddling the hull with bullets or shooting its deck cargo?

Thanks in advance!

[StarTrekMike]

You can use the Flak gun (will take a long time) or you could use the deck gun.

I usually attack single merchants (anything from coastal merchants to medium cargo's) with my deck gun if I have good weather and no escorts to worry about...but keep in mind that late in the war they started arming the bloody ships so deck gun attacks become a very risky chance.

If you are early in the war than you should be able to put two eels in a merchant and use the deck gun to finish it off...you can use the flak gun but it will take forever (always shoot at the stack and then below the water line)

What mods are you using?...GWX alters how well the deck gun works and changes the damage values...one or two eels will kill most merchants, it is just a matter of how long it takes for them to flood (could take hours)


I like using the deck gun against flower class corvettes also...just aim for the gun first and the clear the rest of the deck.

Hope this helps.

Micheal Holmes (U-1701)

[NiclDoe]

Or just stab them with the Cook's knife. Brag told me to carve out my initials on the Nelly. It said: N.D. was here i stabbed the bloddy thing with this knife.

[kranz]

IMO flaks are useless in this case-only deck but you don't have any, as was said before aim below water line

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Last night i managed to hit a c3 with my last two eels driving my IIA sub. The ship came to a dead stop but didn't sink.

Normally i would RTB, leaving the ship where it is but since it is a kind of juicy one i started wondering if it is possible to finish ships off with the flak gun and if so how.

If it can be done how should you do it? Riddling the hull with bullets or shooting its deck cargo?

Thanks in advance!
Hmm... C3... it means you are using vanilla SH3 and not GWX. Vanilla SH3 is mostly based on hit points. If the ship hasn't sunk yet then it won't sink later.

You can try shooting with the AA machine gun. This may accumulate hit points and you may have a very slim chance to sink it. Either the hull or the cargo won't matter, fires won't make a difference either.

On the other hand you could try GWX. With two spaced out torpedos a large merchant will have sunk from flooding within 30 minutes in most cases.

[sasquatch]

Next time, hit the c3 just infront of the smoke stack; they crack every time using vanilla... flack guns are better with small merchants.

[STEED]

you could use the deck gun.

Good luck on that one on a Type II. :rotfl:

[floundericiousWA]

you could use the deck gun.

Good luck on that one on a Type II. :rotfl:

Well...using Vanilla SH3... couldn't he just RAM the C3 and sink her?

[U49]

you are in GWX?
I think targeting superstructure is totally useless, except for looking great.

If you want to sink a ship, you need to aim for the waterline or slightly below. But I have no idea what a puny 2cm can do for you (never tried, or had enough ammunition to be sure).

On a C2/C3 I aim for the forward cargo spaces to sink it or straight under the funnel to stop it.
If it suvives the first impact, (GWX means: wait for 30 minutes at least to make yourself an opinion) then go for the final kill with deck gun or a torpedo in the after cargo spaces... as you like... But remember that SINKING a ship in GWX takes time... (even if you just wait and don't spend more ammo, a ship can sink after HOURS, just by inflicted damage)

[Capt. Shark Bait]

dunno about FLAK being useless against ships. i set one on fire the other night cuz i had no other ammo left

[Stealth Hunter]

You can use the Flak gun (will take a long time) or you could use the deck gun.

OR you can completely ignore that, back your sub up, and go forward at RAMMING SPEED, then batter the hell out of it (which is more fun).

[sasquatch]

quote=Stealth Hunter]You can use the Flak gun (will take a long time) or you could use the deck gun.
OR you can completely ignore that, back your sub up, and go forward at RAMMING SPEED, then batter the hell out of it (which is more fun).[/quote]

Fun? But completely unrealistic. You might as well just use infinite ammo.

[Stealth Hunter]

You might be surprised to hear this, but the jagged, inclined saw-thing on the bow was intended not only for cutting the anti-sub nets, but they were also intended for use in underwater ramming (ineffective, but the trick was occasionally used).

[sasquatch]

You might be surprised to hear this, but the jagged, inclined saw-thing on the bow was intended not only for cutting the anti-sub nets, but they were also intended for use in underwater ramming (ineffective, but the trick was occasionally used).

Not to challenge you, but can you provide some internet sources to show that? I've never heard that before...

[Stealth Hunter]

Sure. You can ask a couple of the guys around here about it, too. They weren't very effective against the steel ships- of course- but they were used and bent on them, lol.

http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?14,57514,57514#msg-57514
http://www.uboat.net/boats/u552.htm
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/misc/stewartu99.htm

[Capa]

you could use the deck gun.
Good luck on that one on a Type II. :rotfl:
Well...using Vanilla SH3... couldn't he just RAM the C3 and sink her?

Not exactly an immersive and realistic method.

[floundericiousWA]

you could use the deck gun.
Good luck on that one on a Type II. :rotfl:
Well...using Vanilla SH3... couldn't he just RAM the C3 and sink her?

Not exactly an immersive and realistic method.

Who cares...if it sinks, you get the points... RAM the bastards

[bookworm_020]

If it's stock SH3 then start taking out cargo, masts, life boats and so forth. If you have damaged the ship before hand, you may still have a chance of sinking it with you flak gun!:arrgh!:

[floundericiousWA]

If it's stock SH3 then start taking out cargo, masts, life boats and so forth. If you have damaged the ship before hand, you may still have a chance of sinking it with you flak gun!:arrgh!:

Don't forget the little floatation ring life savers..they blow up too...and the little vent pipes....LOL if you can see it, you can shoot it off:rock:

[danurve]

Well since rizZO has not yet replied I'll share two cents.

Lost a few with the type II due to chance shots. If it happens again save before you attack. Then you can experiment with correct depth settings, pistols etc.

If you install GWX roll through the academy and use the deck-gun exam. Just remember to aim below the waterline. Get `em all with more then 50 shells left over :arrgh!:

[Penelope_Grey]

To all those that don't know. Unmodded SH3, and therefore unflavoured, is not "Vanilla" Vanilla IS a flavouring therefore the term does not apply to an unmodded SH3.

SH3 is like Pizza. Or it can be stock.... It is NOT Vanilla.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/vanilla.jpg

[rizZO_77]

Thank you for all of your replies guys! Never thought this question would give such a reaction...

Looking at them i conclude that it is possible to sink a crippled ship with the flak gun but takes forever and does not garantuee a kill.

i will try it once it happens again and if that doesnt work i might just try to ram it to see what happens although i dont think my little duck will have much effect on a c3 or a juicy tanker...

Thanks again!:up:

[Stealth Hunter]

^

Well you never know.

I took an XXI and had to ram a Liberty Class once upon a time. He was low enough in the water that I managed to run right on the deck.

Of course, I got caught in the rigging, the deck went awash, and I was drug down to 210 meters before I got free...

He only sank because I dog piled onto him at 19 knots, lol. Extra weight made the bow sink and the vents fill with water.

[M00nStalker]

To all those that don't know. Unmodded SH3, and therefore unflavoured, is not "Vanilla" Vanilla IS a flavouring therefore the term does not apply to an unmodded SH3.

SH3 is like Pizza. Or it can be stock.... It is NOT Vanilla.


Well that´s not really the whole truth, SH3 (with or without patch, but always without mods) could be considered vanilla, as in Vanilla software, it has nothing to do with the flavour vanilla, it simply means that the software is in original state.
I guess someone thought he was smart and called unmodified content vanilla since it´s a "basic" flavour in icecream, it was a pretty bad choice.
However here at subsim the word stock is used, and that word isn´t much better imo, since it suggests that it´s a "stock game" as in "stock photography" and the like.

[floundericiousWA]

To all those that don't know. Unmodded SH3, and therefore unflavoured, is not "Vanilla" Vanilla IS a flavouring therefore the term does not apply to an unmodded SH3.

SH3 is like Pizza. Or it can be stock.... It is NOT Vanilla.



Can it be like vanilla yogurt???:|\\