oh phooey, CTD after adding mods..

[She-Wolf]

hello sub-mates, hoping for a bit of wisdom again..

I downloaded and installed SH3Commander 2.7 a week or so back, and it has been fine, though I don't always remember to go into the game that way and wonder if that matters. About the same time I downloaded JSGME and thought I had set it up right, but in fact I hadn't, and none of the mods were actually installed.

Today I downloaded U.jagd 1.2 GWX, and in trying to get that installed, realised I hadn't done the job with JSGME, so added all the mods, including jagd. I also copied the latter into the MODS folder.

When I next tried to run the game, whether through SH3 Commander or not, it crashed to desktop just after the load save screen, so you don't get as far as 'not so long ago', and the error message identifies simdata.dll as the culprit.

I think it highly likely that the culprit is not some poor innocent library file, but ME, not reading instructions properly and poking things where they didn't oughta go.
With no mods and no SH3Commander, the game runs fine, but others can have them on so I think I ought to be able to enjoy them as well

So, I have rolled back and uninstalled SH3Commander, but can't find an uninstaller for JSGME. I want to clear out the MODS file in the SH3 folder ( not the GWX one of course) - can I do that? and is there anything else I should do so as to be as sure as I can that it is all going on properly when I reinstall Commander and the modder utility? - apart from RT(ahem)FM as someone suggested in another place and on a different matter :cry:

[T.Von Hogan]

Having recently fubar'd my own game i can associate lol.
1st steped probably missed was rolling back SH3Commander before adding or subtracting any mods
but since you have your stock version working you are well on your way to recovery.

The steps i took were to get the game running, bring it up to 1.4, installed gwx, installed the 1.03 mod. Installed jsgme 1.7 installed sh3 commander and the files into its config folder for gwx then i used jsgme to install the mods i wanted then refired up the game and all works well.

Hope that helps

[She-Wolf]

Installed jsgme 1.7 installed sh3 commander and the files into its config folder for gwx then i used jsgme to install the mods i wanted then refired up the game and all works well.

Hope that helps

ahh... so put jgsme on first, then SH3 Commander... perhaps that is where it has gone wrong. Thanks TVH, I will do that and see how I get on :D

[bigboywooly]

simdata is usually campaign files
Ummm GWX ships with JSGME so why add it again ?

Maybe that you didnt rollback SH3commander first

[She-Wolf]

'cos I was told to BB.. I have put JSGME back on, and SHCommander and all is well game-wise - but there are no mods to add.. mizzled and pustified. before I had about a dozen - where did I get them from I wonder?? I think I did rollback.. no matter, I will get there in the end.. :)

[bigboywooly]

GWX ships with a few mods too - cant remember exactly how many now as dont have 1.03 on at the mo
All in the MODS folder ready to load :up:

[She-Wolf]

right, found those (I think) and unzipped to Config folder in SH3. The ones I saw in JSGME were to do with medals on crew, visibility, fixing french, something to do with gramophone, ohhh, can't remember t'uthers. The visibility range was the one I most wanted..:hmm: Ahh, got them back ( but not yet activated), restored them from the MODS folder I sent to the recycle bin. I shall put one on at a time and see what happens... this could take some time..

[She-Wolf]

hmmm, if I activate lite harbour, Das Boot movie, and atmosphere, it crashes and simdata.dll is identified as the problem ( yes I roll back SH3C before changes), but atmosphere on its own is accepted.
Oh well... would have liked to have Das Boot - I had it before I had to reformat and reinstall I think...
anyway, ta for help:)

[bigboywooly]

Then sounds like could be the lite harbour if its simdata :hmm:

Just a thought
You couldnt have got the original lite harbour traffic mixed up with the 1.03 one ?
That would simdata CTD

Open that lite traffic SCR up in Notepad and it should say what version it is in the title

[danurve]

Even the most experienced players can 'stub their toes' with adding mods. :|\\

The best fail safe I have found is use of mulitSH3. An almost instant back-up available. I have saved carrers this way, which is a plus. I too have forgotten to roll back or goofed up some damn thing. PIA but it sure triggors your memory.

[She-Wolf]

ok then, I can live without lite harbor.. :)

danurve, you said

'The best fail safe I have found is use of mulitSH3.'

umm, wass ist das? Do you mean multiSH3, or is this a tool?

BTW, guess who has just installed SH4! whooeee... looks good (Yes BigBoy, I got the patch)

done the nav training (piece of cake for us old SH3 hands; yawn) tomorrow I will try the artillery - not my best subject - but right now I have a job to finish in the English Channel....:D

[danurve]

http://www.mysh3.info/shiii/index.php?title=MultiSH3

It is a little work to set up but after that you can have a stock back-up and also run any modded version you want.

[andylegate]

I'm sorry She-Wolf, but your subject thread cracked me up!

This forum is mostly us hairy male types who say things like:

)(*^*%&**! won't run!

or

$#&%@$! My game keeps crashing!

To see "phooey!" made me go: say wha-?

I'm trying to imagine someone like Kaleun Blaz going: "Oh phooey! I missed that tanker!"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[She-Wolf]

ahh, Andy... I take your point :lol:.

I shall try to be more hairy and male-like in the future!! :roll: :rotfl::rotfl:

BigBoy no, looked via notepad and it is GWX 1.03...

[papa_smurf]

Personally I've never had any problems installing mods for SH3 (yes I know that i've just jinxed myself.)

Regrads to your problem She-wolf, try mulitSH3, and this 'should' sort things out for you, if not you might have to re-install SH3 (last resort)

[bigboywooly]

ahh, Andy... I take your point :lol:.

I shall try to be more hairy and male-like in the future!! :roll: :rotfl::rotfl:

BigBoy no, looked via notepad and it is GWX 1.03...

:hmm: ok

Oh and tis LESS hairy and more feminine for you She Wolf
Forget andylegate - too much time at sea

:rotfl:

[She-Wolf]

I might try the multiSH3 thing then, since you and Danurve suggest it Papa ( thanks for the link Danurve), but not keen on reinstalling again - I only just did it a week or so back, so will leave it for a while. Too pleased with my current progress to think about that just now anyway as have just sunk two destroyers patrolling around Lerwick, got one broadside t'other almost head on - didn't think it would work. They were only of modest size but it is good training. Now I am sneaking away as fast as I can before some rather peeved retaliation comes out to get me.

I shall have to up the reality settings - three successful patrols in a row. Woo!:D

BigBoy (grin):up:

[FIREWALL]

Hi SheWolf :D Hope all gets fixed up for you.

Then you can install latest version of JSGME 2.0:D

just when you think it's your finest hour ....

you find out your clock was broken :p

[She-Wolf]

Firewall, if I get a good MINUTE or two, that'll do me for a bit!

Just hitting the target first time, or getting a clear result ( doncha just hate it when you thud three torpedoes into a merchant and it STILL limps doggedly along forever?) is enough to keep me smiling for miles.. :D

[FIREWALL]

Firewall, if I get a good MINUTE or two, that'll do me for a bit!

Just hitting the target first time, or getting a clear result ( doncha just hate it when you thud three torpedoes into a merchant and it STILL limps doggedly along forever?) is enough to keep me smiling for miles.. :D

So youv'e met the small merchant that is unsinkable and has a deadly gun crew also too. :D

[She-Wolf]

ahh, nothing can squash me tonight - after five kills, four of them warships in my designated patrol area, I now I have the Iron Cross and am an Ober and my crew all love me, and I have an emblem on me boat now!

I have racked up the realism rating a bit, . Long way to go yet before I can do it all proper mind... I anticipate it is going to be a leedle bit harder next time.:p