Music industry wins case

[Von Tonner]

This woman must be feeling sick. How on earth is she ever going to pay of this amount? To me the fine is way over the top.


http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleId=321209&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__business/

[SUBMAN1]

It is way over the top, but most likely will be overturned.

What I don't get - $25 in music should maybe equal 10x, but at max, 100x in damages. no? Something is way out of whack here.

-S

[kiwi_2005]

Maybe they got to get the message out loud and clear:hmm: $220,000 would stop anyone from downloading, imagine if it was a $5000 fine, Music downloaders would laugh and download some more.

[bradclark1]

What's really screwed up is that it was by a jury.

[Jimbuna]

Do a jury in the US judicial system set the tariff ? :hmm:

In the UK a jury only determines the verdict and the judge sets the tariff :yep:

[d@rk51d3]

What's really screwed up is that it was by a jury.

Probably all with I-pods in pocket, full of downloaded content.

[bookworm_020]

It could have been a lot worse, the maxium fine she could have got would have been alot higher!

I wonder how many of the others who were going to contest their downloading in cort are going to settle?

[CB..]

this has been said before i know (and by the record companies themselves on occasion) but they are fighting the inevitable...they started it..by going digital...they have to resign themselves to the changing nature of the digital world..

it's all about plumetting "record" sales...now i am going to have to speak purely as an older person here ...but i just haven't heard anything produced recently (in the last fifteen years in fact lol) that just didn't immediately remind me of something else...how many times is it possible to listen to the latest "new" thing only to find it just sounds like half a cupfull of the who..a dash of led zeppellin..a smidgem of the rolling stones...or perhaps more recently same as above but replace with any number of punk/new wave bands...magazine/ramones/etc etc...there's only so many times you can tell yourself this is original music before you lose the will to live lol....what went wrong eh??? when did the younger generations get too scared to create their own music? or maybe at the same time when did the recod companies get too scared to sign genuinely original bands???

if so the record companies have made their own beds...so now they have to lie in them.. sales are dropping because well what's the point?? why buy another "such and such" clone?? it's crap stop it..we've heard it all before...

mind you i really lost interest in music with the wholesale switch to CD's...i went out and spent a small fortune on new audio equipment...not once but several times...over the past decade or so..top notch CD players amps the lot...nothing....all that ever came out the speakers was elevator music...i actualy thought i had gone mad or something...i could listen to my favourite pieces of music and no reaction at all ...no emotion no hairs on the back of my neck..no goose bumps no reaction at all...just some neutered elevator music version of songs i thought i knew so well...

felt like running out into the streets and doing the famous scene from "invasion of the body snatchers" lol

must be some thing wrong with my ears...either that or i AM genuinely crazy..anyway i can't face going thru that again so haven't bothered much with music for a while...sounds like i am not on my own..bad enougth when they neuter your favourite old school original bands music..just adds insult to injury when the new stuff is just the old stuff rehashed and done as if it were some obscure form of kareoke....and your not actually supposed to NOTICE

[Dowly]

this has been said before i know (and by the record companies themselves on occasion) but they are fighting the inevitable...they started it..by going digital...they have to resign themselves to the changing nature of the digital world..

it's all about plumetting "record" sales...now i am going to have to speak purely as an older person here ...but i just haven't heard anything produced recently (in the last fifteen years in fact lol) that just didn't immediately remind me of something else...how many times is it possible to listen to the latest "new" thing only to find it just sounds like half a cupfull of the who..a dash of led zeppellin..a smidgem of the rolling stones...or perhaps more recently same as above but replace with any number of punk/new wave bands...magazine/ramones/etc etc...there's only so many times you can tell yourself this is original music before you lose the will to live lol....what went wrong eh??? when did the younger generations get too scared to create their own music? or maybe at the same time when did the recod companies get too scared to sign genuinely original bands???

if so the record companies have made their own beds...so now they have to lie in them.. sales are dropping because well what's the point?? why buy another "such and such" clone?? it's crap stop it..we've heard it all before...

Agreed. :yep:

[SUBMAN1]

this has been said before i know (and by the record companies themselves on occasion) but they are fighting the inevitable...they started it..by going digital...they have to resign themselves to the changing nature of the digital world..

it's all about plumetting "record" sales...now i am going to have to speak purely as an older person here ...but i just haven't heard anything produced recently (in the last fifteen years in fact lol) that just didn't immediately remind me of something else...how many times is it possible to listen to the latest "new" thing only to find it just sounds like half a cupfull of the who..a dash of led zeppellin..a smidgem of the rolling stones...or perhaps more recently same as above but replace with any number of punk/new wave bands...magazine/ramones/etc etc...there's only so many times you can tell yourself this is original music before you lose the will to live lol....what went wrong eh??? when did the younger generations get too scared to create their own music? or maybe at the same time when did the recod companies get too scared to sign genuinely original bands???

if so the record companies have made their own beds...so now they have to lie in them.. sales are dropping because well what's the point?? why buy another "such and such" clone?? it's crap stop it..we've heard it all before...
Agreed. :yep:

Me too!

-S

[SUBMAN1]

It could have been a lot worse, the maxium fine she could have got would have been alot higher!

I wonder how many of the others who were going to contest their downloading in cort are going to settle?
This is the problem - the punishment should fit the crime. If I walked into a music store and stole 2 CD's - the same # of songs this lady got prosecuted on, I would have had the crime probably dropped as a first offense, and very likely nothing would have happened to me except some sort of major warning. See my point?

I think the award is unconstitutional. This is the equivelent to getting life in prison, or getting executed for stealing a loaf of bread!

-S

[Kapitan_Phillips]

this has been said before i know (and by the record companies themselves on occasion) but they are fighting the inevitable...they started it..by going digital...they have to resign themselves to the changing nature of the digital world..

it's all about plumetting "record" sales...now i am going to have to speak purely as an older person here ...but i just haven't heard anything produced recently (in the last fifteen years in fact lol) that just didn't immediately remind me of something else...how many times is it possible to listen to the latest "new" thing only to find it just sounds like half a cupfull of the who..a dash of led zeppellin..a smidgem of the rolling stones...or perhaps more recently same as above but replace with any number of punk/new wave bands...magazine/ramones/etc etc...there's only so many times you can tell yourself this is original music before you lose the will to live lol....what went wrong eh??? when did the younger generations get too scared to create their own music? or maybe at the same time when did the recod companies get too scared to sign genuinely original bands???

if so the record companies have made their own beds...so now they have to lie in them.. sales are dropping because well what's the point?? why buy another "such and such" clone?? it's crap stop it..we've heard it all before...

Precisely. Record sales are dropping because the music is ****e. Bands these days want all the money and all the glory but aren't prepared to really work and make something new. Its all two or three chords and singing about the time your girlfriend dumped you or 'macking' on some 'foshizzle booty'.

:nope:

[Frenssen]

I haven`t bought a CD in years. I listen to web radio and see local bands perform. The record industry makes me want to puke.