WEEK-LONG CALL-IN INITIATIVE:ULTIMATE EFFORT TO ACQUIRE Patch v1.4...

[cdrsubron7]

I've been asked by a fellow member of the Ubi SHIV Forums to post some information about trying to get people to help make an effort to make Ubisoft see that we need a 1.4 patch. The information is below.




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Dear Members, Subsim members and visitors alike,

On September 21st 2007, I have requested that all members wanting to improve or add to the list in the Complementary Bug Thread do it at once for it has reached a quasi-final state. No more, unless pointed otherwise by members for mistakes I would have been the cause, would this list change EVER AGAIN. By Sept. 23rd at midnight, all forgotten elements should be restored through re-editing ONE last time.

My decision behind this is for all to stick to the inevitable good thing to do: the ULTIMATE CALL-IN INITIATIVE bestowed upon this forum.

On Monday September 24th will begin the greatest operation to push forward the development of patch v1.4. Having called in last week myself, and keeping it secret until now, I was answered by a supervisor (finally!) who confirmed that both call-in initiatives in MAY 2007 caused substantial financial losses to Ubisoft. I projected that a week-long call-in initiative would DEFINITELY influence Ubisoft to reconsider its stance on the future existence of patch v1.4 versus the cost associated with US calling in the whole day, 5 days in a row requesting what we need.

HERE IS what you are to say when you call:
Politely ask the name of the representative caring for you. Write it down.
He will ask you for your UBI_Forum login name.
Explain him why you call: You want the development of patch v1.4 to be confirmed.
Be adamant in telling him that you want the issues needing fixing through the development of patch v1.4 taken from the sticky "Complementary Bug Thread" in the General Discussion Forum. That the DEVTeam read it very thoroughly.
==>The WHOLE LIST (including the NOTES and OMISSIONS section).
Secondly, that wanted improvements to the game will be addressed in the sticky "WEEK-LONG CALL-IN INITIATIVE: ULTIMATE EFFORT TO ACQUIRE patch v1.4" and it ought to be noted along as well. Insist firmly if you may.
So the patch content is two fold and you insist that the representative relay through the proper channel your claims to his supervisor. State that all issues will not SIMPLY GO AWAY AND VANISH unless patched.
Further explain that YOU request a "projected date" for the completed development of the patch once the DEVTeam takes note of all the elements disclosed previously.
Also, emphasize to him that once the development of patch v1.4 is confirmed, YOU request a BI-MONTHLY Progress Update Report from the DEVTeam along with the possibility to exchange or discuss directly on the forum with them about the progress itself.
A final HOT FIX if collateral issues from patch v1.4 installation happen.
Describe some of your feelings behind the many technical and historical inaccuracies within SH4. That you want to be heard.
Thank the representative for hearing you out and thanking also UBIsoft for providing you with this possibility.-----

Call back an hour later and repeat...

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Basically, I need everyone on this forum to actively PARTICIPATE to this initiative for the whole week. You want a LAST PATCH, YOU GOT to TAKE THE MATTER IN YOUR OWN HANDS.

Please, POST HERE your intention, and I mean if everyone on this forum could post there support here, at least I would have an idea of what's happening.

REMEMBER that we are also doing this for our late friend DeepBlueWolf, to honor his memory through our actions.

DO NOT LET US DOWN!!!

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Here's the WANTED IMPROVEMENT LIST:
New convenient elements within SH4's menu --requiring the DevTeam outlook-- to be added: a cutscene/video viewer available in the menu;
In the submarine school section, a depth charge evasion course and a AA defense course (with BOTH a good number of difficulty settings), as well as a quick practice mode;
An ENEMY AI Option menu, standalone in its own right (not comprised within gameplay settings), allowing the player to taylor the various AI variables to his personnal preference. A comprehensive menu detailing the most important aspect of AI variable attribution;
In Quick Mission, be given the option to choose the weather and the boat's crewmen and equipments upgrades for each mission.----

krazyfrenchman

[cdrsubron7]

Here is Part II.


The list in the Complementary Bug Thread seems to be NOW FINAL.

Please, VOICE your SUPPORT in this topic for the call-in initiative. Type out your comments to FIRMLY CONFIRM your collaboration. Thank you! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE AN IDEA!!!

SO HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO CALL IN:
The list of of the right phone numbers for your region:

North America: 1-919-460-9778
Australia: 1902 262 102
United Kingdom: 0905-482-0109
France: 0.892.700.265
Danemark: 38 32 02 50 <<< I guess they deserve Germany as well.If you want to see the remaining countries UBI phone numbers: HERE IS THE LINK (http://www.ubi.com/US/Support/InternationalSupport.aspx).

If YOU do not want this game scuttled, I invite you to call Ubisoft from September 24th to the 28th starting at 9:00 hours in your respective country/time zone. Call every HOUR is need be!!!

PLEASE, do not disappoint! We must work TOGETHER!

[GT182]

Good luck, and really I mean it. I just hope all this doesn't go on deaf ears.... Ubi's and the Dev Team. Or, it just may tie up and crash their phone lines. Then they can ask the phone company for a Patch or Hotfix. LOL

It'll be a hard one pulling this off by phone alone. Emails to Ubi Tech Support would work just as good or even better, IMHO. They have to read them all.

[TDK1044]

Um, I think you'll find that patch 1.4 arrives a lot sooner than you think. :D

[Nats]

In my view this is a form of terrorism or similar to initiating a virus and I wont have anything to do with it.

SH4 is just a game and whereas I dont like buying bugged software myself it is pretty much standard for any piece of complex software these days.

I cant see how demanding they are fixed by threatening force is going to encourage Ubisoft in producing another patch.

Far better to just not buy their next game if you feel that strongly, as is the likely action I will be taking if at least the game's CTDs are not fixed.

[Uber Gruber]

In my view this is a form of terrorism or similar to initiating a virus and I wont have anything to do with it.

Err...they're simply demonstrating their right to demonstrate mate.....where as your reply is right from the Neo-Con "silly sentence handbook". Thank god you only have one vote!

[mookiemookie]

Um, I think you'll find that patch 1.4 arrives a lot sooner than you think. :D
:yep:

Been spending too much time on digg and reddit....I'm looking for a "bury" button for this thread.

[StandingCow]

Are there even plans to put out another patch right now? I thought 1.3 was the last.

[LtCmdrRat]

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nojWJ6-XmeQ

and you will see illustration of some people behaviour in their posts

[John Channing]

OK...

1) Let's all take the temperature down a bit.

2) If anyone thinks that the development team for Silent Hunter 4 is going to abandon this community then they have not been paying attention.

3) Ask yourself this. Do I respond better when I am encouraged or when I am harassed?

4) Then ask yourself this. Do I respond better when I am treated like an adult or a child? (see point 4 in the first post).

5) There have been enough hints that a 1.4 patch is underway that I think that this is pointless.

JCC

[John Channing]

In my view this is a form of terrorism or similar to initiating a virus and I wont have anything to do with it.

SH4 is just a game and whereas I dont like buying bugged software myself it is pretty much standard for any piece of complex software these days.

I cant see how demanding they are fixed by threatening force is going to encourage Ubisoft in producing another patch.

Far better to just not buy their next game if you feel that strongly, as is the likely action I will be taking if at least the game's CTDs are not fixed.

If you are experiencing a lot of CTD's I can't see any reference to them in any of your posts since April. There are some possibilitites from a game perspective (most of which have been fixed through patches or mods), but since 1.03 most are likely hardware/driver related. If you want to start a new thread about your problems there are any number of people here who would be happy to help.

JCC

[SteamWake]

The sky is falling the sky is falling

(Runs around with hands in the air flailing wildly looking for my tin foil hat). :p

Oh.. uhhh, What CTD's ?

Oh all those poor people with vista and hardware conflicts.

Lucky me

[TDK1044]

I think this kind of tactic is unnecessary. Firstly because of John's 5th point, and secondly, because with Patch 1.3 a patch was needed to fix outstanding critical gameplay issues within the game. I would argue that although some 'clean up' is stiil required, Silent Hunter 4 patched to 1.3 is a complete game.

[SteamWake]

Its all well and good untill you get to the part about

"Wait one hour and repeat"

That could easily be construed as undue harrasment for which the originator could very well find himself in court.

[Rockin Robbins]

In my view this is a form of terrorism or similar to initiating a virus and I wont have anything to do with it.
Err...they're simply demonstrating their right to demonstrate mate.....where as your reply is right from the Neo-Con "silly sentence handbook". Thank god you only have one vote!
I hate to disagree with people I like! But... We do have some little bit of obligation to act in our own best interest. If this tactic works as it is intended: to cost Ubisoft money and punish them for not catering to our unreasonable demands :lol:, then they will act just like a child who has burned their hand on a hot stove. They will not touch the stove, they will not deal with us, again. That will be the end of subsims as we know them. Electronic Arts will come out with one and you know what that would mean.:doh:

If that is what you wish, make the call. Otherwise some wisdom is in order. They know what we think already. To interfere with their free will by force or threat is as wrong as their interfering with ours. We have the right to ask for a patch in a constructive, cooperative, respectful, thankful and polite way. We do not have the right to make harassing telephone calls. In fact there are laws against that, and justly so.

Tantrums are for two year-olds. They don't work for them either. I choose not to participate.

[mookiemookie]

"REMEMBER that we are also doing this for our late friend DeepBlueWolf, to honor his memory through our actions."

Harrassing the poor shmoes who answer Ubi's phones and making unreasonable demands is honoring someone's memory?

Sheeshk, I hope that's not how I'm "honored" when I go.

[TDK1044]

I think this idea is seriously flawed. In the first place, just because someone creates a thread about what he'd like to see in a new patch, and then invites others to contribute to the thread, in no way obligates the Devs to read the thread or incorporate any of the ideas expressed in it into a new patch.

The Devs will frequently scan this Forum to see what ideas and thoughts are being expressed here. If they had wanted a thread created containing a list of top ten requests for patch 1.4, then they would have asked Neal or a Moderator to set it up.

To bombard Ubisoft with irritating, demanding and unwanted phone calls regarding patch 1.4 is counter productive to future relations with them. Let this nonsense die.

[AVGWarhawk]

Personally I see it as a waste of my time. The game is perfectly playable with patch 1.3. Can it be improved? Sure can just like anything else in life. If a patch comes then I'm in the bonus. If it does not come, I'm still good.

[Capt. Shark Bait]

my thinking is that, if SH3 was patched to 1.4, where is the sense that SH4 would be left abandoned to just float along. as for what the OP suggests. i think all it would do is annoy those who answer the calls, tho they'd be polite about it and that TDK is right, tho i hope he's not refering the the thread i put up about 1.4 fixes remaining:-?

[NefariousKoel]

Personally I see it as a waste of my time. The game is perfectly playable with patch 1.3. Can it be improved? Sure can just like anything else in life. If a patch comes then I'm in the bonus. If it does not come, I'm still good.

I completely support this post. :|\\

[wetwarev7]

Personally I see it as a waste of my time. The game is perfectly playable with patch 1.3. Can it be improved? Sure can just like anything else in life. If a patch comes then I'm in the bonus. If it does not come, I'm still good.

I completely support this post. :|\\

I agree!
And why should I do all this work for 'improvements' (as listed above) that have nothing to do with the improvements that I would like to see added?

[TDK1044]

my thinking is that, if SH3 was patched to 1.4, where is the sense that SH4 would be left abandoned to just float along. as for what the OP suggests. i think all it would do is annoy those who answer the calls, tho they'd be polite about it and that TDK is right, tho i hope he's not refering the the thread i put up about 1.4 fixes remaining:-?

Your thread was absolutely valid, Sir. :D

[TheSatyr]

Those of us who payed attention knew 1.4 was a distinct possibility. Throwing a tantrum and making threats would be a good way to get all support stopped.

When you get right down to it,after the last call in/e-mail campaign for 1.3,doing it again would have no doubt convinced ubi that doing sub sims would be more trouble than they are worth.

[Capt. Shark Bait]

my thinking is that, if SH3 was patched to 1.4, where is the sense that SH4 would be left abandoned to just float along. as for what the OP suggests. i think all it would do is annoy those who answer the calls, tho they'd be polite about it and that TDK is right, tho i hope he's not refering the the thread i put up about 1.4 fixes remaining:-?

Your thread was absolutely valid, Sir. :D

I thank you, Sir. have a grog on me:)

as for what the OP said about DBW and using that, i think it quite insensitive to use someones untimely death to further their own ends, even if it would benefit the majority. i'ld preferr the devs put out a patch on the merit of whether or not one is needed, not because it what the OP thinks DBW would want. for all we know, he might've thought things are fine as is, and if a patch did come along, well so be it

[mookiemookie]

as for what the OP said about DBW and using that, i think it quite insensitive to use someones untimely death to further their own ends, even if it would benefit the majority. i'ld preferr the devs put out a patch on the merit of whether or not one is needed, not because it what the OP thinks DBW would want. for all we know, he might've thought things are fine as is, and if a patch did come along, well so be it

That was my point as well with my last post in this thread. I found that to be in very bad taste. :down:

[TDK1044]

I agree. And now that this 'call to action' nonsense is no longer necessary...even though it was totally inappropriate in the first place, we can close this thread.