[WIP} Clipboard News

[AVGWarhawk]

Please look at the link below:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122547


I was toying aroung with the idea of making more informative and interesting CINPAC news clipboard messages. The were funny at first with the vanilla game but they grow old. Last night I changed many of these messages and was able to add new messages. Would the community like a mod that would provide new messages, accurate messages and a bit more variety? Now, one would think that you would be getting slammed with messages all the time. Not so, the program offers low/high priority settings. Probability in % that the sub will receive the message. Date and time to send and stop sending the message is also adjustable. This can really add some content to the game and the overall war effort. I have already found pages upon pages of news and events that can be added.


After looking at the my link above, you can see were I added X UNRESTRICTED SUBMARINE WARFARE IS APPROVED X. These are the messages I can create and also assure you will receive the message.

Some Pac News as an example: December 10, 1941 Pan American Airways Clipper plane landed in the Treasure Island seaplane harbor with bullet holes from a strafing at Island on Dec 7.

Of course the operational news can be embellished a bit more than what we have. Let me know if anyone would be interested in this small but possible immersive mod for the clipboard.

[Digital_Trucker]

Count me in. :up: Some of the jokes were funny the first time around, but a little more realistic info would be much appreciated on the second and subsequent careers.

I know one thing that I would appreciate and that is some locational information when I receive a message from CinCPac regarding some battle where assistance is needed. I (and I hope I'm not alone here:oops: ) am about as geographically challenged as is possible without an interstate number and a mile marker to go by. Coordinates for some of the lesser known areas might be helpful with the text requesting nearby units to assist. And before anyone says it, I will admit to being lazy for not looking it up myself:p .

Slightly off-topic (but not really) there is also a method to cause clipboard messages to arrive timed with the scripted events in radio files.

[AVGWarhawk]

This can be done. I'm given just so much room to type the message but usually enough to get the point across. I plan on using factual information both for news and war intelligence. Last night I was able to add the massage for unrestricted warfare. So things that were said and done can go into this. Like I said, you will not be swamped with messages as you can reduce plenty of things to reduce that from happening and you can also make sure it transmitted as well.:up:

[leovampire]

I am sure tater will find it a nice eddition to his mod seeing your working with the stuff from it!

He will be happy to say the least.

Glad you got it all figured out.

[fred8615]

I've tried adding Admiral Stark's "unrestricted warfare" message myself, but never got it to work. If you can, I would definitely be interested.

Also, the Pearl Harbor attack message doesn't work either when you start before Dec. 7th. The notice comes up, on both the message box at top and in the clipboard, but there's no message body. Can/have you fixed that?

[donut]

It would be nice,to get classified time-line massages from ComSubPacSw,(Asiatic)on progress at Guadalcanal/early war,& Tokyo Express movements.These messages would be damn immersing.If you want to do this mod,you could call it,
(Torsk Messages Mod) to honor your Baltimore boat,The input from restoration crew would be invaluable,as would be there humor.Good project :lol: ! IMHO.

[mrbeast]

This sounds petty cool. Something which adds a lot of immersion to GWX on SH3 are the intercepted messages from and to other boats giving patrol results, requests for overdue boats to report and the odd SOS etc. They give you a greater sense that you're not alone and there is a greater war going on 'out there'.

[AVGWarhawk]

Exactly Fred. It bothered me that there was no message there. I got it to work and added other things. Radio traffic will be quite busy in the beginning as there was confusion and misdirection. The men wanted to hear what was happening. That is what I'm attempting to emulate. The I will tone it down to normal routine with occassional news, etc.


Go look at my link in the first post and see the unrestricted message I added.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ok, I got a few 'yea' so I will proceed.

Here is a sample I found. "September 15 1941, War Department authorized construction of a submarine net across the Golden Gate".

[AVGWarhawk]

I've tried adding Admiral Stark's "unrestricted warfare" message myself, but never got it to work. If you can, I would definitely be interested.

Also, the Pearl Harbor attack message doesn't work either when you start before Dec. 7th. The notice comes up, on both the message box at top and in the clipboard, but there's no message body. Can/have you fixed that?
Found the message and will add. Currently I'm using Taters campaign mod and it will be tailored for this but I wall also make one for those using the stock campaigns.

[Hawk_345]

i would definatly be interested in this one. the messages now have no variety, would be a great addition, only now with the improved campagne layers they are beter, with yours and his, could be even beter.

[tater]

Very cool. The ability to control what drops you out of TC might also be useful.

There is another file inside UPCData that seems to have a couple messages in it. Wonder what calls them...

tater

[leovampire]

controls your comming out of TC

[AVGWarhawk]

Seems to be two ways to control the TC to 1 for a message then Leo. From what I gather, the lower priority messages can be set up for how long to transmit (days and hours to do it), priority set to low or high, % the sub will actually received it. So in theory, of they all are set to low priority, low % to receive and a short time transmitted, it would be safe to say the player will not be dropped to 1x TC for just regular news. This is just a theory at the moment. Also, it looks to be split, the Asiatic Fleet has there own command sending messages and the Pearl based subs have their own command.

[tater]

The priority is in the events/triggers stuff too. Perhaps more tightly integrated than I imagined.

BTW, as much traffic as possible was sent at NIGHT when they expected the boats to be on the surface in RL.

tater

[AVGWarhawk]

The priority is in the events/triggers stuff too. Perhaps more tightly integrated than I imagined.

BTW, as much traffic as possible was sent at NIGHT when they expected the boats to be on the surface in RL.

tater

Good point Tater, time consideration can be taken here when the messages will be sent.

[LukeFF]

Go for it, AVG!

[tater]

BTW, you can open the missions in the editor to look at the TSR stuff in the cointext of their even triggers, etc. So mission1.mis and mission1.tsr both open and both save when you open the mission in the editor.

tater

[leovampire]

tater but I could be wrong. It is easier to do it in pad just for messages alone in the TSR's. Remember this is his first mod work as far as I know.

if I am right don't confuse the poor guy if not sorry AVGWarhawk.

[AVGWarhawk]

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Picture two, the message about declaring war is stock, I added the second message with radio silence etc. It pops up on the 13th and you are at Midway by then refueling so you can high tail it to Midway without coming out of high TC. We all know it is a long transit and coming out of high TC all the time can be painful.

OK, this is the progress so far. Currently I'm working with the stock campaign with stock messages. I do not know why they entered a Dec 7th 1941 message as you are placed in your submarine on the 9th or sometimes early morning on the 10th. One thing, you are taken out of high TC for high priority messages that will transmit until the submarine receives them. Pac New are not high priority and do not stop high TC. With that said, high priority messages will be kept to a minimum but will be informative as can be. Also, Tater asked to have the message sent in the night time hours as this is when the subs are surfaced. UBI has done this already so some thought was put into it. UBI timeline of critical dates and news are pretty good. I will add more interesting things for Pac News. These will be low priority and low probability the sub will pick it up as I do not want to clog the clipboard.

@Tater, these messages are triggered only by date and time. The do not coincide with TSR files. The have their own trigger it seems. In all reality, anything can be put in this text file with date to trigger it. Hell, UBI put in "go sink something and get a screenshot". Messages like this, although fun at the time, will be eradicated with something more appropriate.

[Weather-guesser]

Outstanding idea!:up:

[leovampire]

good for you in getting this going! Better you someone who can spell than someone like me LOL!!! :rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

It is coming along. Not even remotely as huge an undertaking as ROW but a nice addition of some immersion.

[leovampire]

You take mine I take yours?

Today alone I got 15 new file updates from the crew to test and decied on and work with!

I feel like I did the day I had to post the mod. :damn: :rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

I have found some really good news to report. I also found a few more operational orders as well....message about priority on tankers from Admiral King and intelligence on Japanese fitting radar detectors on escorts. Good stuff.

[Digital_Trucker]

I have found some really good news to report. I also found a few more operational orders as well....message about priority on tankers from Admiral King and intelligence on Japanese fitting radar detectors on escorts. Good stuff.

Keep on keepin' on, looks like you are making good progress already:up: Nothing like a good jump off the line to get rolling:sunny:

[AVGWarhawk]

There is a plethera of information and news that can go into this mod. Would most prefer news that pertains to the PTO? Of course the major events in ETO will still be sent out as Pac News but not the smaller new events.

[leovampire]

There is a plethera of information and news that can go into this mod. Would most prefer news that pertains to the PTO? Of course the major events in ETO will still be sent out as Pac News but not the smaller new events.

It isn't easy looking at all those lines and doing what your doing so everyone will like how it comes out seeing how well your going through all the information we get over the radio.

[AVGWarhawk]

My main goal is to have over 100 lines of news that can be sent out, but part of that goal is not to have it hit the sub and clog the clipboard all the time. I have seemed to been able to do this. In theory, if I have over 200 lines of Pac News, there will always be a variety and not so many repeats as we see now. I see how messages, when/if, they are received is controllable. I have added abour 20 new lines on the stock and will test tonight. Today I have over 50 more lines to add. If she works like I plan, this could turn out very nicely. If not, it is one hell of a history lesson!

[Hawk_345]

are you going to make this compatible with taters new campagne layers, since he also has new messages?

[AVGWarhawk]

are you going to make this compatible with taters new campagne layers, since he also has new messages?

What I plan on doing and the reason I'm doing it is modding the original file as the file that came with Taters mod always came up with "message content" when Pearl was attacked. This drove me nuts. My first attempt was using the file from Taters mod but the same thing happened. Something somewhere was triggering the message but with nothing showing. One I get this completed, I will do one of two things, hand over the mod to Tater and he can add the lines and or, Tater can just send me the date and what message to add. In theory, the mod should work as it should within Taters workings. I love Taters mod also and ultimately this is what I want to work because Taters starts you before the war and it clips the sub types at each base you can use. Just over all more logic in the shipping. :yep:

[Hawk_345]

sounds like a plan then.:up:

[sqk7744]

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[decoded]

Great idea AVGWarhawk,

A few months ago, I was tinkering with a coded and decoded version of Radio Messages via the ECOPTC utility by Kim Rønhof:
The Electronic Cipher officer for PTC (ECOPTC).The ECOPTC is a program that can convert a plain text message into enciphered text. And, of course, the reverse action - decipher an enciphered message. The ECOPTC uses a simulation of the CSP888/889 (the coding machine that was used on US subs in WW II).
Good luck and Full Speed ahead!

Cheers,
:up:

Here's the link, courtesy of Subron14 and subsowespac.org http://www.subsowespac.org/downloads/ECOPTCOV2_0_0.zip

[AVGWarhawk]

I have over 50 new entries of news. I have made the original file entries a bit more creative and informative. So I'm guessing there are over 150 entries at this time. Last night work was understanding how it works and what can be done and not done in the file itself. Tonight was actual entries. Every Christmas you WILL get a message from CINCPAC! They want you to feel warm and loved as you risk your neck! I did a quick month patrol and the clipboard was not clogged with news. Again, it is toned down so you are not constantly reading the news. Going for the variety measure here. Keep in mind the news will not drop you out of high TC, only operational orders are set up to drop to 1X. Also, they transmit between 1800 hours and 2300 hours, normally when you are on the surface hunt in the night time hours.

[leovampire]

I have over 50 new entries of news. I have made the original file entries a bit more creative and informative. So I'm guessing there are over 150 entries at this time. Last night work was understanding how it works and what can be done and not done in the file itself. Tonight was actual entries. Every Christmas you WILL get a message from CINCPAC! They want you to feel warm and loved as you risk your neck! I did a quick month patrol and the clipboard was not clogged with news. Again, it is toned down so you are not constantly reading the news. Going for the variety measure here. Keep in mind the news will not drop you out of high TC, only operational orders are set up to drop to 1X. Also, they transmit between 1800 hours and 2300 hours, normally when you are on the surface hunt in the night time hours.

I will take the mod and just add my new Airbase Messages to it for my own game.
Looks like we have a new Modder in our ranks!

Thanks for the work!

[AVGWarhawk]

Fine by me Leo. Still trying to understand the inner workings. If I title it Operational News, I can stop you from high TC, no problem. Some of the original text when altered will not work and I can not figure out why! For example, the first Merry Christmas I set up as high priority and transmit until received.....no dice. At the bottom of the page I retype the who thing with my own message and title it Operational News it works....really stange man. Still working on it.

New patch coming out......hmmmmmm.....

[tater]

BTW, the new patch was rumored to show enemy bases on the map.

That's another reason I didn't go too far trying to grok leo's mod, adding it to mine would be a LOT of work, I can tell, and if the devs make bases pop onto the map... ouch.

tater

[sqk7744]

Thanks for the heads-up :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ok, back to work on this. I finally got some message to display. Thanks to Leo and showing my my ills for no messages displaying. Lots to add.

[leovampire]

Ok, back to work on this. I finally got some message to display. Thanks to Leo and showing my my ills for no messages displaying. Lots to add.

Just don't go getting cross eyed doing it. I know every time I go into that file my eye's wander around when I try to focus on it. But glad I could get you up and running AVGWarhawk for a soon to be mod release. Just one of those dot the I's and Corss the T's things that are easy to miss.

[MONOLITH]

This is the first time I saw this thread.

Go AVG go! I'm interested. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

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Ahhhh, my first message of low priority to appear. High priority was not issue. The low priority was the difficult one. Now, on with the history lesson via clipboard. :D

[MONOLITH]

By the way AVG, I'm working on a new kaptains log and message book, Like SH3 had.

I hate that stupid clipboard. Maybe these two can go together.

[AVGWarhawk]

It would be nice if we could type in game. Keep a Capt log that way. How would your log work?

[MONOLITH]

I just meant the image of the clipboard, replace it with a better background item/book etc.

[AVGWarhawk]

That would be a nice addition. The messages are just text. You need to create the book type texture. I'm sure the messages would display on the book.

[panthercules]

Been away from the boards too long I guess (spending all my spare time on the bridge watching ROW :lol: ) - missed this thread completely somehow. Great ideas - looking forward to this, as the radio messages (both text and the great radio sound mod packs out there) really do provide about the only link to the rest of the war and the world outside your little boat on those long, lonely patrols.

[AVGWarhawk]

Last night I added 15 more lines of news and messages. Does not sound like much but do 15 lines every night for 5 nights and now you have quite a few messages that could be received by the submarine.

[Digital_Trucker]

it will be under the heading [REL]:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

I have gotten the PTO new just about covered. Now I will add ETO news as it happens.

[leovampire]

I have gotten the PTO new just about covered. Now I will add ETO news as it happens.

And it sounds like your enjoying the work too so that helps.

[silent killer]

run with the program ,sounds like it would add more to the game play

[Salty Longshanks]

This sounds great AVG. Another fantastic immersion booster for the game. Can't wait till your finished.

I'm with you Monolith, the clipboard is pretty lame. An actual log book combined with AVG's work on the message system would be the balls. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Its getting there men. Working on the ETO news.

[MONOLITH]

Working on a better "clipboard". :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

When you have something you think will work and are happy with I'll send over the txt messages for the board. :rock:

[tater]

AVG, what is the bare bones format for a priority message?

I'd like a test messages.txt where there is a single message. If it works, I know I am having messages.txt called.

tater

[AVGWarhawk]

If you open the massage.txt file in the main campaign file you will see at the top the values that make messages a priority and will keep transmitting until the sub receives it. I believe 100% for priority message the value of 1 to keep transmitting until received. You will also see on the left hand side the dates you want to transmit the messages. I hope I answered your question. I was a bit unclear as to what you are asking.